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claiborneh writes:

"Tough Times Ahead for UT Football"
Wow, you are a freaking prophet.

senracjr writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I wish this Fall was going to be different. Jones will do no better than Dooley on-field: beat Austin Peays & get racked up by Oregons, Floridas, Bamas & SC's. I am ill at ease from what I have seen. Here's why:

a. A widely respected friend-a friend among Cincinnati powerful says people there were stunned when Jones left. Jones had assured townies, school & players how much he wanted stay, a few weeks before bolting.

b. Here, Jones proclaims he will have the best coaching staff in the USA. He hires his from Cincinnati, without talking to several available widely respected, nationally known coaches/coordinators.

c. He claims he has wanted to coach here all his life. Strange for a Michigan guy---especially one who wanted to stay in Cincinnati.

d. He says UT can win the SEC with Tennessee H.S. players, which East, West, &---to a lesser degree--- Middle Tennessee fans, want to hear. Within two days Phillip Fulmer, who could have said nothing, says Jones has never recruited nationally, but must, he is to succeed here.
When he left, Jones made sure to take one of UC's committed recruits---a 2-star lineman. Maybe from UC or Central Mich., a 2-stars is national recruiting. Not in the SEC. SEC Coaches doing that when leaving, are not very well thought of.
e. Trust is apparently not bedrock in cultures that he comes from.

1) This week we learned that his mentor, Kelly, at N.D. , whom Jones followed at Central Mich., then Cincinnati---as Kelly got better jobs---does the same kind of you-gotta-cut-the-cards when he talks.

Having proclaimed love for N.D., Kelly then interviews at Philly. Then we learn Notre Dame football under Kelly has covered up lies by his premier player---lies designed to get support from those who bestow post-season honors.

2) Also Jones told John Adams, for this article, a story which embarrasses the President of the University of Cincinnati, but makes Jones look prescient.
My take-away:
a. Jones tells everybody what they want to hear.
b. Jones tells things to make himself look good that make others look bad.
c. Phillip Fulmer, in the meeting w/Jones, could not have missed discussing how mentally NOT tough & undisciplined Vols were w/Kiffen or Dooley.

Jones needs backing of Fulmer and former Vol players; so he hires a popular explayer...plus says what Fulmer wants to hear...says everywhere in Tennessee what they want to hear...tells recruits and parents what THEY want to hear. Jones does so to position himself. Jones is no reincarnation of The General; he is a masterful politician.

This guy gets multiple million$, plus his mid-major staff raises of 50%, his own contract makes him richer than the town he came from, regardless.

No wonder he tells everybody what they want to hear; Cheek, the Pres & Hart certainly told him what HE wanted to hear.

That will work until Oregon takes the field. Maybe Jones will have figured out by then what Oregon wants to hear.

So he should tell people what they don't want to hear? Your an idiot!

rtrchatt writes:

Beautiful day for the national championship parade at the Capstone. I imagine Vonn Bell and
parents will enjoy all the hoopla. 61-7 last 5 yrs and UT has 28 wins last 5 yrs. Really not much of a choice unless you just want to make all the locals happy lol... Just look at all those DBs Coach Saban puts in the league from LSWho and UA. Not to mention practing against the best competition in college fb day in and day out. Roll Tide

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to rtrchatt:

Beautiful day for the national championship parade at the Capstone. I imagine Vonn Bell and
parents will enjoy all the hoopla. 61-7 last 5 yrs and UT has 28 wins last 5 yrs. Really not much of a choice unless you just want to make all the locals happy lol... Just look at all those DBs Coach Saban puts in the league from LSWho and UA. Not to mention practing against the best competition in college fb day in and day out. Roll Tide

What's practing, DA!

Navaloranges writes:

Nice headline for the recruits JA. Whatever you do make sure you play the "I'm not a Cheerleader" bit all the way to the extreme.

How many other SEC towns would put up with this JOKE adams. Answer, ZERO! Yeah, it's nice to be objective and report on both sides, but adams is ANTI-VOL PERIOD. You don't have to lead an article about mental toughness with this dramatic, NEGATIVE headline during one of Jones' most important recruiting weekends, PERIOD. Insanely RIDICULOUS and ANTI-VOLUNTEER. Not "objective", but ANTI-VOLUNTEER.

Hopefully Jones will explain to the recruits adams' motives, and history of reporting on UT.

adams, bringing yellow journalism sports reporting to neew lows on a regular basis. And don't give me that "he doesn't do the headlines" BS. It's HIS piece, He owns it.

KVCrockett writes:

in response to emailnodata:

Speaking of celebrations....

Offensive linemen are missing the boat. You know, a D-lineman does his little dance after making an average hit, same with a LB or DB...and the offensive players?? Might as well be ballerinas in tights.

But, the offensive line guys??? They kick out an end on a trap, or lead a sweep, or crush a linebacker, these guys just get up and amble back to the huddle.

We can't have that; O-line, you boys need to act the fool when you do your job.

I prefer a player that makes a play,to act like he's done it before, take care of business and go back to the huddle and be ready to make another big play. celebrations can make a player look like a jerk. I really hate a player hammin himself for the cameras when he makes a play and his team is getting blasted on the scoreboard.

lyafarre writes:

in response to andforhisnexttune:

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Why do we expect coaches to be 100% loyal to a school when we, as fans, have such wavering loyalties ourselves? Fulmer and Chavis were 100% loyal, yet we threw them out like yesterday's garbage.

We knew getting rid of them and "going outside the family" was opening Pandora's Box, yet we did it anyway because our only true loyalty was to the number in the win column. How's that turned out for us? 4 coaches in what, 6 years? You can't expect fidelity in a brothel.

jamgod writes:

in response to SeaBassHauling:

Wrong...! His players were happy for him...very happy...and i,ll go out on a limb here and say they still love the guy...! Bolt....BS you seem to have a motive with your garbage....! I think at this juncture he has made a really good choice with keeping the coaches he knows and bringing in a few SEC...Thig n Martinez as well....look at the recruits that are here this weekend and next that we probably wouldn't even had shot at.....except....! For the moves he and his coaching staff have put together. I'm not going to caring on any further with someone who has no ideal what football and recruiting is about...! Give this Team and coaches a chance and keep your fly trap shut John....! Adams....! JA

Sikem' seabass...beat the phooey outa' that terd!

golfman1975 writes:

I used to want to be a writer and now I are one.

John Adams.

CoverOrange writes:

in response to CCLC:

There were several games last year where UT got behind early but managed to climb back into it. It just seems like when the O started to drive and maybe .... snatch victory from the jaws of defeat .... it would just come apart. Example: uSC. You had to believe at the end with UT driving they were going to win that game. In fact I said to my Aunt while watching it. " I'll be darned... UT is gonna win this thing. How bout that!" AND THEN DISASTER strikes. Tackles wiffs on a block, Brey is hit.. fumble ... GameCock ball. I couldn't believe. Neither could my Aunt. She said: "What just happened? What just happened?" Snake bit I said.

Yep, "snakebit". Exactly what I thought 500 miles away. But then, thought that several times over the last several seasons.

hikerdude writes:

in response to LCPanthers:

Can not be any worse than last year.If we have a good recruiting class and coach's system works like at other places he was at,we will be fine.A tweak here and there.Can anyone see an 7-5 maybe 8-4 ???

No. Not with this schedule.

chuckfromwoodberry writes:

in response to rtrchatt:

Beautiful day for the national championship parade at the Capstone. I imagine Vonn Bell and
parents will enjoy all the hoopla. 61-7 last 5 yrs and UT has 28 wins last 5 yrs. Really not much of a choice unless you just want to make all the locals happy lol... Just look at all those DBs Coach Saban puts in the league from LSWho and UA. Not to mention practing against the best competition in college fb day in and day out. Roll Tide

How are they ever going to get all those people into the Walmart?

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to chuckfromwoodberry:

How are they ever going to get all those people into the Walmart?

I think Dollar General Store has the rights to the trophy viewing this time..It's a fake crystal ball with a yellow DG sticker on it.

easleychuck writes:

in response to 9willbesofine:

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Worried much, then why are you here?

Tennessee's football program has a leader now who wanted to be here.

Again, if UT is not a threat? Then why are trolls like you here?

Obviously, there is concern in trollville. Just wait till the program gets rolling then trollmainia will be in full sweat mode.

Build it, Coach Jones. Go Vols!

Huttdawg100 writes:

I look at Wisconsin and Oregon and I see where their programs are. Both teams had coaches that took them to BCS bowl games year in and year out. Those coaches were hired by football people: Barry Alvarez and Mike Belloti.

I have to scratch my head when I look at UT leadership. Why is Phil Fulmer not working in the Athletic Department? Why are we consulting with guys like Tressel and Urban Meyer instead of Phil? Here's my prediction: UT Football won't return to prominence until Phil returns to UT.

manniesghost1903 writes:

Butch Jones came to UT in spite of the deep hole the Administration dug bt selecting Mike Hamilton as Athletic Director. That hole got a little deeper when the Administration via Mike Hamilton fired Coach Fullmer without allowing him time to recruit the athletes he needed to return to success. The hole grew even deeper still with the hires of Lane Kiffin and Coach Dooley (Derek not Vince). Frankly, I am not sure Butch Jones will be able to get UT out of that hole in five years. However, he may be able to gain enough progress to allow some coach in the future (perhaps Lovie Smit) to start UT on the road back. Dave Hart didn't do any favors for UT by delaying the firing of Coach Dooley (Derek not Vince). As of this past week ESPNU has 27 prospects, rated higher the QB Ferguson, who still had various degrees of interest in UT and were still uncommitted. Additionally, Coach Jones has made offers to two Oregon commits shortly after Chip Kelly left for the Philadelphia Eagles job. Seems to me he is al least trying to make things better. Perhaps he will surprise me and exceed my expectations.

orangecountyvols writes:

in response to GlennFordsFoible:

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Vol fans,

Have any of you read past the first 2 or 3 lines posted by this idiot? How can anyone find a hint of substance to anything Wilted Flowers writes?

This clown, remember, is the supreme coward of all cowards. He's been so consumed with Karl Kremser, Glenn Ford, and of course.......recently with Derek Dooley, who happens to not be the coach anymore, yet is insanely consumed with these 3. Someone said this idiot is Richmond Flowers' brother. Can Richmond really have as big a whiner and coward as this for a brother???????

So easy to show your frustration to people who are genuine Tennessee supporters when things don't go your way, isn't it? After you've done your thing with Glenn Ford, ( someone you'll never face in person ) .........who's next? By the way troll, I never said I liked Hart in particular, but idiots like you always are known for putting words in everyone's mouths, even though you can never back them up.

The rest of us want to hear the reaction from you trolls once it's all turned around for the Vols.

CCLC writes:

in response to CoverOrange:

Yep, "snakebit". Exactly what I thought 500 miles away. But then, thought that several times over the last several seasons.

Yeah a couple of Saturdays like that and snakebit tends to be more than I can handle. At any rate that switch to the 3-4 in such dismal times was poor thinking imho. — Making the switch to a 3-4 defensive front in a make-or-break year for his job security was Derek Dooley’s way of saying “Hey y’all, watch this” and throwing a bottle of Everclear on the campfire.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to manniesghost1903:

Butch Jones came to UT in spite of the deep hole the Administration dug bt selecting Mike Hamilton as Athletic Director. That hole got a little deeper when the Administration via Mike Hamilton fired Coach Fullmer without allowing him time to recruit the athletes he needed to return to success. The hole grew even deeper still with the hires of Lane Kiffin and Coach Dooley (Derek not Vince). Frankly, I am not sure Butch Jones will be able to get UT out of that hole in five years. However, he may be able to gain enough progress to allow some coach in the future (perhaps Lovie Smit) to start UT on the road back. Dave Hart didn't do any favors for UT by delaying the firing of Coach Dooley (Derek not Vince). As of this past week ESPNU has 27 prospects, rated higher the QB Ferguson, who still had various degrees of interest in UT and were still uncommitted. Additionally, Coach Jones has made offers to two Oregon commits shortly after Chip Kelly left for the Philadelphia Eagles job. Seems to me he is al least trying to make things better. Perhaps he will surprise me and exceed my expectations.

Dave Hart wouldn't have had the okay to hire in and immediately fire Dooley (although I agree he should have been). The money situation was in desperation mode and Cheek was willing to go another year if UT plays any defense at all and finishes bowl eligible. As for taking five years, I don't see that at all..Yes, it may take five years to challenge for a SEC crown, but playing respectable fb can be achieved almost immediately.

Huttdawg100 writes:

in response to CCLC:

Yeah a couple of Saturdays like that and snakebit tends to be more than I can handle. At any rate that switch to the 3-4 in such dismal times was poor thinking imho. — Making the switch to a 3-4 defensive front in a make-or-break year for his job security was Derek Dooley’s way of saying “Hey y’all, watch this” and throwing a bottle of Everclear on the campfire.

Moreover, he hires a guy that had no experience as a DC. It makes my head hurt.

RollTideJoe writes:

in response to Rumblefish:

Were you talking smack when UT dominated BAMA from 1995-2006? I believe the record during that period was 10-2 in favor of UT. Just wondering....b/c you know...once you win, you just keep winning forever, right?

Go try your psuedo knowledge on someone else, douche.

It wasn't long ago many Vol fans were saying "Bama is living in the past". "Saban will bolt in two years". Uh!

voldog70 writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I wish this Fall was going to be different. Jones will do no better than Dooley on-field: beat Austin Peays & get racked up by Oregons, Floridas, Bamas & SC's. I am ill at ease from what I have seen. Here's why:

a. A widely respected friend-a friend among Cincinnati powerful says people there were stunned when Jones left. Jones had assured townies, school & players how much he wanted stay, a few weeks before bolting.

b. Here, Jones proclaims he will have the best coaching staff in the USA. He hires his from Cincinnati, without talking to several available widely respected, nationally known coaches/coordinators.

c. He claims he has wanted to coach here all his life. Strange for a Michigan guy---especially one who wanted to stay in Cincinnati.

d. He says UT can win the SEC with Tennessee H.S. players, which East, West, &---to a lesser degree--- Middle Tennessee fans, want to hear. Within two days Phillip Fulmer, who could have said nothing, says Jones has never recruited nationally, but must, he is to succeed here.
When he left, Jones made sure to take one of UC's committed recruits---a 2-star lineman. Maybe from UC or Central Mich., a 2-stars is national recruiting. Not in the SEC. SEC Coaches doing that when leaving, are not very well thought of.
e. Trust is apparently not bedrock in cultures that he comes from.

1) This week we learned that his mentor, Kelly, at N.D. , whom Jones followed at Central Mich., then Cincinnati---as Kelly got better jobs---does the same kind of you-gotta-cut-the-cards when he talks.

Having proclaimed love for N.D., Kelly then interviews at Philly. Then we learn Notre Dame football under Kelly has covered up lies by his premier player---lies designed to get support from those who bestow post-season honors.

2) Also Jones told John Adams, for this article, a story which embarrasses the President of the University of Cincinnati, but makes Jones look prescient.
My take-away:
a. Jones tells everybody what they want to hear.
b. Jones tells things to make himself look good that make others look bad.
c. Phillip Fulmer, in the meeting w/Jones, could not have missed discussing how mentally NOT tough & undisciplined Vols were w/Kiffen or Dooley.

Jones needs backing of Fulmer and former Vol players; so he hires a popular explayer...plus says what Fulmer wants to hear...says everywhere in Tennessee what they want to hear...tells recruits and parents what THEY want to hear. Jones does so to position himself. Jones is no reincarnation of The General; he is a masterful politician.

This guy gets multiple million$, plus his mid-major staff raises of 50%, his own contract makes him richer than the town he came from, regardless.

No wonder he tells everybody what they want to hear; Cheek, the Pres & Hart certainly told him what HE wanted to hear.

That will work until Oregon takes the field. Maybe Jones will have figured out by then what Oregon wants to hear.

Do you really think that when Butch Jones was hired at the University of Cincinnati that he was going to tell the university and the Cincinnati media that he wasn't going to take a better job if offered.

I bet you would take a better job especially if your salary doubled.
I say get behind and support Coach Jones and give him a chance. If we don't we are going to be in the same situation in about 3 years.
Your friend may just be ticked because Coach Jones left.
We called Kiffen everything in the book when he left us high and dry.

born2ride writes:

Butch Jones is the second coming of Brian Kelly.

Not sure if that is a good thing after the ND/Bama game.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to born2ride:

Butch Jones is the second coming of Brian Kelly.

Not sure if that is a good thing after the ND/Bama game.

Well, he had the #1 class in recruiting until the NCG. I'm certain UT would take that kind of recruiting year in and year out. Also, his style is similar to A&M's offense and they played dang good ball in the SEC.

murrayvol writes:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

You also have to take in account that UT was a scoring drive away from wins at UGA, MSU and USCe. All those games were on the road, if UT had any discipline at all defensively we win those games. You're correct, coaching was the biggest problem with the team. I'm sick of hearing UT is out-classed talent wise and then see Stanford with average speed DL/LB's completely shut down teams like Oregon. UT deserves better.

Exactly. It was mind numbing to watch our offense put up what should be enough points to win vs good teams and still couldn't get a critical stop.

murrayvol writes:

in response to born2ride:

Butch Jones is the second coming of Brian Kelly.

Not sure if that is a good thing after the ND/Bama game.

ND may have been (actually there's no doubt) overrated but that aside they didn't have a qb who could throw the ball downfield vs Bama. Absent that, you can't play against those guys.

Kelly will do just fine at ND just as he did at Cincy.

JSmith525 writes:

in response to MooseandSquirrelVol:

I stopped reading at a-friend-of-a-friend said.

He changed it from friend of a friend to just friend in a later post. The part I picked up on was the "power" his friend has in Cincy. Must be his crack dealer...

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to GlennFordsFoible:

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One might ask you the same thing, POS!

orangecountyvols writes:

in response to GlennFordsFoible:

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Hilarious troll. I know who am am, and Vol fans also know who they are. Clearly, we know who you are...........a coward, and whiney troll.

No, it's not a nice thing to call someone an idiot...............but........when one acts like an idiot, as you do, unfortunately, it's an accurate description of said idiot.

There are a few like you here. That's your little support group. However, the overwhelming Tennessee people who don't whine and gripe about the past, the former, I repeat FORMER coaches etc.........are the people with whom the Vols will move forward.

After you're finished whining and griping about the past, summon up some guts and go face Glenn Ford. All bets are that if you could manage to do that, we wouldn't have to be bored with your sort here anymore.

Wilted Flowers..........owned by 3 people,
Karl Kremser, Glenn Ford, and of course........your favorite, Derek Dooley.

Ask the Vol faithful here just who the troll is.

BillsBrother writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I wish this Fall was going to be different. Jones will do no better than Dooley on-field: beat Austin Peays & get racked up by Oregons, Floridas, Bamas & SC's. I am ill at ease from what I have seen. Here's why:

a. A widely respected friend-a friend among Cincinnati powerful says people there were stunned when Jones left. Jones had assured townies, school & players how much he wanted stay, a few weeks before bolting.

b. Here, Jones proclaims he will have the best coaching staff in the USA. He hires his from Cincinnati, without talking to several available widely respected, nationally known coaches/coordinators.

c. He claims he has wanted to coach here all his life. Strange for a Michigan guy---especially one who wanted to stay in Cincinnati.

d. He says UT can win the SEC with Tennessee H.S. players, which East, West, &---to a lesser degree--- Middle Tennessee fans, want to hear. Within two days Phillip Fulmer, who could have said nothing, says Jones has never recruited nationally, but must, he is to succeed here.
When he left, Jones made sure to take one of UC's committed recruits---a 2-star lineman. Maybe from UC or Central Mich., a 2-stars is national recruiting. Not in the SEC. SEC Coaches doing that when leaving, are not very well thought of.
e. Trust is apparently not bedrock in cultures that he comes from.

1) This week we learned that his mentor, Kelly, at N.D. , whom Jones followed at Central Mich., then Cincinnati---as Kelly got better jobs---does the same kind of you-gotta-cut-the-cards when he talks.

Having proclaimed love for N.D., Kelly then interviews at Philly. Then we learn Notre Dame football under Kelly has covered up lies by his premier player---lies designed to get support from those who bestow post-season honors.

2) Also Jones told John Adams, for this article, a story which embarrasses the President of the University of Cincinnati, but makes Jones look prescient.
My take-away:
a. Jones tells everybody what they want to hear.
b. Jones tells things to make himself look good that make others look bad.
c. Phillip Fulmer, in the meeting w/Jones, could not have missed discussing how mentally NOT tough & undisciplined Vols were w/Kiffen or Dooley.

Jones needs backing of Fulmer and former Vol players; so he hires a popular explayer...plus says what Fulmer wants to hear...says everywhere in Tennessee what they want to hear...tells recruits and parents what THEY want to hear. Jones does so to position himself. Jones is no reincarnation of The General; he is a masterful politician.

This guy gets multiple million$, plus his mid-major staff raises of 50%, his own contract makes him richer than the town he came from, regardless.

No wonder he tells everybody what they want to hear; Cheek, the Pres & Hart certainly told him what HE wanted to hear.

That will work until Oregon takes the field. Maybe Jones will have figured out by then what Oregon wants to hear.

After about three sentences this definitely read like Charlie Brown's teacher talks.

BigOrangeRock writes:

So happy we nuked the football program and fired a legend for this!

Clap to that!

manniesghost1903 writes:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

Dave Hart wouldn't have had the okay to hire in and immediately fire Dooley (although I agree he should have been). The money situation was in desperation mode and Cheek was willing to go another year if UT plays any defense at all and finishes bowl eligible. As for taking five years, I don't see that at all..Yes, it may take five years to challenge for a SEC crown, but playing respectable fb can be achieved almost immediately.

Perhaps it can be done immediately but he will have to really coach up the majority of the one and two star prospects previously recruited by Coach Dooley (Derek not Vince). To his advatage, Coach Jones has brought most of his Cincinnati staff with him to attempt this challenge.

Incidently, for those who wonder about my use of "Coach Dooley (Derek not Vince)," it is due (unfortuantely) to the appearace that Derek Dooley is more his "mother's son than his father's boy."

AlWilsonFan writes:

in response to SeaBassHauling:

A heading like that....in the middle of a very important recruiting weekend....! critical time of recruiting...! I was informed that the J word wasn't allowed to be used on this site...! how can UT allow this man to write articles on UT??? Mr. Adams I will never ever read your stories again...I've read his stories before and can't believe he is even allowed around the team...!!!
BAND the NEGATIVE

lol. Looks like you stopped reading a little early. One of Adams' most positive stories in years.

smokeygrowl writes:

in response to 9willbesofine:

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That no jones fault.Wait til signing day and see what he can salvage out of Dooleys stit pile.

smokeygrowl writes:

in response to flatrock:

Worley will be fine. It is extremely unfortunate that he was thrown into the fire (vs. the best teams in the USA) without any weapons around him- and wasted a redshirt year. He is bigger and stronger now and he has the number one ingredient missing at QB the last 3 years at UT-
a brain...IMHO, he should have been the No. 1 QB this past fall.

Ferguson

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to GlennFordsFoible:

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Ewe should know 1* talent when you see it..No argument here, never-were..

Olddogsrule writes:

I mis-posted this in another thread. So I brought it over here.

I saw Neyland referenced above. He was tough. My Dad grew up with Bowden Wyatt. I'd sit in the car or the lobby while Dad visted with him during some of his many hospital stays, and hear stories going home. One was how Bowden at first hated Neyland, and Neyland didn't particularly like him either. Why? Neyland only took Bowden because he wanted another boy from Kingston, Bowden was too small but the guy Neyland wanted wouldn't come without his best friend. Then, Bowden "wasn't gonna be treated that-a-way" like when Neyland would move the team off the practice field into a gravel parking lot until they "upped their intensity" to Neylands liking. Course it didn't take but maybe one down to get back on the grass. Bowden even left the team and went home a couple of times, but his Dad brought him back. Moral? Neyland didn't want Bowden, Bowden didn't want to play for Neyland- but when Bowden decided nothing Neyland could do was as bad as his Daddy's woodshed trip, something clicked, HE GOT TOUGH! He became an All American and then Neyland brought him back and he coached his own Volunteers!

Go You Volunteers! GET TOUGH!!!!!

Rich_Is_Re-born writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I wish this Fall was going to be different. Jones will do no better than Dooley on-field: beat Austin Peays & get racked up by Oregons, Floridas, Bamas & SC's. I am ill at ease from what I have seen. Here's why:

a. A widely respected friend-a friend among Cincinnati powerful says people there were stunned when Jones left. Jones had assured townies, school & players how much he wanted stay, a few weeks before bolting.

b. Here, Jones proclaims he will have the best coaching staff in the USA. He hires his from Cincinnati, without talking to several available widely respected, nationally known coaches/coordinators.

c. He claims he has wanted to coach here all his life. Strange for a Michigan guy---especially one who wanted to stay in Cincinnati.

d. He says UT can win the SEC with Tennessee H.S. players, which East, West, &---to a lesser degree--- Middle Tennessee fans, want to hear. Within two days Phillip Fulmer, who could have said nothing, says Jones has never recruited nationally, but must, he is to succeed here.
When he left, Jones made sure to take one of UC's committed recruits---a 2-star lineman. Maybe from UC or Central Mich., a 2-stars is national recruiting. Not in the SEC. SEC Coaches doing that when leaving, are not very well thought of.
e. Trust is apparently not bedrock in cultures that he comes from.

1) This week we learned that his mentor, Kelly, at N.D. , whom Jones followed at Central Mich., then Cincinnati---as Kelly got better jobs---does the same kind of you-gotta-cut-the-cards when he talks.

Having proclaimed love for N.D., Kelly then interviews at Philly. Then we learn Notre Dame football under Kelly has covered up lies by his premier player---lies designed to get support from those who bestow post-season honors.

2) Also Jones told John Adams, for this article, a story which embarrasses the President of the University of Cincinnati, but makes Jones look prescient.
My take-away:
a. Jones tells everybody what they want to hear.
b. Jones tells things to make himself look good that make others look bad.
c. Phillip Fulmer, in the meeting w/Jones, could not have missed discussing how mentally NOT tough & undisciplined Vols were w/Kiffen or Dooley.

Jones needs backing of Fulmer and former Vol players; so he hires a popular explayer...plus says what Fulmer wants to hear...says everywhere in Tennessee what they want to hear...tells recruits and parents what THEY want to hear. Jones does so to position himself. Jones is no reincarnation of The General; he is a masterful politician.

This guy gets multiple million$, plus his mid-major staff raises of 50%, his own contract makes him richer than the town he came from, regardless.

No wonder he tells everybody what they want to hear; Cheek, the Pres & Hart certainly told him what HE wanted to hear.

That will work until Oregon takes the field. Maybe Jones will have figured out by then what Oregon wants to hear.

Perhaps your "POWERFUL FRIEND'S" source is butthurt because they lost coach Jones. Ever think of that? Sounds like sour grapes to me. This is The University of Tennessee and we've MORE THAN PROVEN that if CBJ doesn't get it done, he'll be in the unemployment line. So let's just watch it all unfold and see what happens. He'll either get it done or get fired. It's really as simple as that.

orangecountyvols writes:

Vol fans,

Sorry to get into a ping pong match with the troll, Jeff Flowers. I am pretty sure 99% of you understand what he is, and how his posts for a long time have bordered on a sickness.

This idiot wants to have the last word, so to speak, sort of like the little kid on the playground.

I am not going to pacify this clown by going back and forth with him. I know how I've been with and behind the Vols long before this idiot was playing 2nd fiddle to Richmond, if he really is his brother. If Richmond were to read the trash this jerk says about the University of Tennessee, then I'm sure we wouldn't be bothered with the troll any more............just as if he were man enough to take his whiny self to Glenn Ford, Karl Kremser etc. A sure sign of weakness is when someone sticks another person's name onto their screen name.

Enough of this idiot............how about the Vols effort against MSU today? Keep it going guys !

pj_ladyvolnMI writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I wish this Fall was going to be different. Jones will do no better than Dooley on-field: beat Austin Peays & get racked up by Oregons, Floridas, Bamas & SC's. I am ill at ease from what I have seen. Here's why:

a. A widely respected friend-a friend among Cincinnati powerful says people there were stunned when Jones left. Jones had assured townies, school & players how much he wanted stay, a few weeks before bolting.

b. Here, Jones proclaims he will have the best coaching staff in the USA. He hires his from Cincinnati, without talking to several available widely respected, nationally known coaches/coordinators.

c. He claims he has wanted to coach here all his life. Strange for a Michigan guy---especially one who wanted to stay in Cincinnati.

d. He says UT can win the SEC with Tennessee H.S. players, which East, West, &---to a lesser degree--- Middle Tennessee fans, want to hear. Within two days Phillip Fulmer, who could have said nothing, says Jones has never recruited nationally, but must, he is to succeed here.
When he left, Jones made sure to take one of UC's committed recruits---a 2-star lineman. Maybe from UC or Central Mich., a 2-stars is national recruiting. Not in the SEC. SEC Coaches doing that when leaving, are not very well thought of.
e. Trust is apparently not bedrock in cultures that he comes from.

1) This week we learned that his mentor, Kelly, at N.D. , whom Jones followed at Central Mich., then Cincinnati---as Kelly got better jobs---does the same kind of you-gotta-cut-the-cards when he talks.

Having proclaimed love for N.D., Kelly then interviews at Philly. Then we learn Notre Dame football under Kelly has covered up lies by his premier player---lies designed to get support from those who bestow post-season honors.

2) Also Jones told John Adams, for this article, a story which embarrasses the President of the University of Cincinnati, but makes Jones look prescient.
My take-away:
a. Jones tells everybody what they want to hear.
b. Jones tells things to make himself look good that make others look bad.
c. Phillip Fulmer, in the meeting w/Jones, could not have missed discussing how mentally NOT tough & undisciplined Vols were w/Kiffen or Dooley.

Jones needs backing of Fulmer and former Vol players; so he hires a popular explayer...plus says what Fulmer wants to hear...says everywhere in Tennessee what they want to hear...tells recruits and parents what THEY want to hear. Jones does so to position himself. Jones is no reincarnation of The General; he is a masterful politician.

This guy gets multiple million$, plus his mid-major staff raises of 50%, his own contract makes him richer than the town he came from, regardless.

No wonder he tells everybody what they want to hear; Cheek, the Pres & Hart certainly told him what HE wanted to hear.

That will work until Oregon takes the field. Maybe Jones will have figured out by then what Oregon wants to hear.

Listen to this hour of Erik Ainge's radio show, and you'll discover that not everyone thinks like you. <shocking!> Ainge talks about his interaction with Butch and also interviews former player, Kevin Simon, (right after the 30min. mark) who tells him that Butch told him LAST SEPTEMBER that UT would be his dream job. They both are super psyched about Butch. Enjoy: http://www.tnsportsradio.com/the-erik...

exlineman writes:

TO ALL UT FANS FROM AN NCAA SURVEY I FOUND ON THE INTERNET; THERE IS A SPECAL ADMISSIONS PROGRAM; that Oregon, Iowa and ALABAMA take big time advantage every yr. with AL. starting in 2004. This explains why Al. is getting all of these uneducated moron 5 stars. In 2004-2006 Al. had 19 players on this program.

There are 7 schools that don't offer a program like this and they are: Texas, Air Force,Conn., Kansas St. Purdue, TENNESSEE and Virginia.

In 2007 Steve Spurrier threatened to quit if S.C didn't adopt a program like this. A recent All americn linebacker graduating from there tried 3 times before he was able to get into SC.
S. C. now offers a program like this. The linebackers name was Eric Norwood. Two other schools have a CHANCE PROGRAM; at Northern Illinois and ACCESS TO SUCCESS at Univ. of Minn. It also is obvious that Vanderbilt is running on this program big time with their Peabody arrangement. Vanderbilt operates 10 schools within the umbrella of Vanderbilt. This explains also how Franklin is out recruiting our program. Alot of these athletes want a less stressful program.

This clearly explains how Ala., and SC have been able to rise to the top.

Basketvol writes:

in response to SeaBassHauling:

A heading like that....in the middle of a very important recruiting weekend....! critical time of recruiting...! I was informed that the J word wasn't allowed to be used on this site...! how can UT allow this man to write articles on UT??? Mr. Adams I will never ever read your stories again...I've read his stories before and can't believe he is even allowed around the team...!!!
BAND the NEGATIVE

I've recently stopped reading any articles by JA and skip straight to the comments. As usual, I see other people who feel the same way I do. Why does he have to be so negative about the home team? It's fine to tell it like it is, but the sensational headlines, sarcastic commentary, and negative tone are too much for me.

exlineman writes:

There are77 of 92 schools that practice the abuse of SPECIAL ADMISSIONS. This explains Al. and Vanderbilt and their recent success in recruiting. It is time for Coach Jones to set down with Cheek and Hart and get this changed so that we can get SPECIAL ADMISSION athletes as well.

allvol8 writes:

in response to GlennFordsFoible:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

I think you have the Dooley obsession..all I ever see you post is Dooley...Dooley..Dooley...he is GONE! They do make medicine for that..BTW the way you are close to meeting Title 33 criteria

manniesghost1903 writes:

in response to Basketvol:

I've recently stopped reading any articles by JA and skip straight to the comments. As usual, I see other people who feel the same way I do. Why does he have to be so negative about the home team? It's fine to tell it like it is, but the sensational headlines, sarcastic commentary, and negative tone are too much for me.

Although some people point out this article ends on perhaps a positive tone, Adams,Climer, et al,all tend to look for a story which draws attention. Unfortunately, negative stories seem to get "the attention." Pertsonally, I think the basic dream stories (other than the underdog team wins) are the Football Coach is on "the hotseat", "the Head Coach has been fired", and "the Team is on the skids." Hence, we see nothing but negative stories. I think nothing cheered most Tennessee sportswriters more than writing stories about Phil Fulmer being fired and seeing most major sports at UT crashing toward the bottom. If I were living in Knowville or Nashville, I would be writing and/or emailing the newspaper corporation every day to terminate all these bum sportswriters. Unfortunately their replacements would probably be even more negative. I guess that is the way they teach journalism these days.

Theo writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I wish this Fall was going to be different. Jones will do no better than Dooley on-field: beat Austin Peays & get racked up by Oregons, Floridas, Bamas & SC's. I am ill at ease from what I have seen. Here's why:

a. A widely respected friend-a friend among Cincinnati powerful says people there were stunned when Jones left. Jones had assured townies, school & players how much he wanted stay, a few weeks before bolting.

b. Here, Jones proclaims he will have the best coaching staff in the USA. He hires his from Cincinnati, without talking to several available widely respected, nationally known coaches/coordinators.

c. He claims he has wanted to coach here all his life. Strange for a Michigan guy---especially one who wanted to stay in Cincinnati.

d. He says UT can win the SEC with Tennessee H.S. players, which East, West, &---to a lesser degree--- Middle Tennessee fans, want to hear. Within two days Phillip Fulmer, who could have said nothing, says Jones has never recruited nationally, but must, he is to succeed here.
When he left, Jones made sure to take one of UC's committed recruits---a 2-star lineman. Maybe from UC or Central Mich., a 2-stars is national recruiting. Not in the SEC. SEC Coaches doing that when leaving, are not very well thought of.
e. Trust is apparently not bedrock in cultures that he comes from.

1) This week we learned that his mentor, Kelly, at N.D. , whom Jones followed at Central Mich., then Cincinnati---as Kelly got better jobs---does the same kind of you-gotta-cut-the-cards when he talks.

Having proclaimed love for N.D., Kelly then interviews at Philly. Then we learn Notre Dame football under Kelly has covered up lies by his premier player---lies designed to get support from those who bestow post-season honors.

2) Also Jones told John Adams, for this article, a story which embarrasses the President of the University of Cincinnati, but makes Jones look prescient.
My take-away:
a. Jones tells everybody what they want to hear.
b. Jones tells things to make himself look good that make others look bad.
c. Phillip Fulmer, in the meeting w/Jones, could not have missed discussing how mentally NOT tough & undisciplined Vols were w/Kiffen or Dooley.

Jones needs backing of Fulmer and former Vol players; so he hires a popular explayer...plus says what Fulmer wants to hear...says everywhere in Tennessee what they want to hear...tells recruits and parents what THEY want to hear. Jones does so to position himself. Jones is no reincarnation of The General; he is a masterful politician.

This guy gets multiple million$, plus his mid-major staff raises of 50%, his own contract makes him richer than the town he came from, regardless.

No wonder he tells everybody what they want to hear; Cheek, the Pres & Hart certainly told him what HE wanted to hear.

That will work until Oregon takes the field. Maybe Jones will have figured out by then what Oregon wants to hear.

Wow, that's five minutes of my life I won't get back.

OwensboroVol writes:

Football is a tough sport. Say what you want about Phil Fulmer, but a lot of his teams could line up and force their will upon their opponents. Their is nothing that can be said against lining up and running the ball down the throats of the other team. I remember Travis Stephens putting 226 yards up on Florida and there was nothing the Florida defense could do to stop it. That is my definition of toughness. I hope to see it at UT again before I pass on.

emailnodata (Inactive) writes:

in response to KVCrockett:

I prefer a player that makes a play,to act like he's done it before, take care of business and go back to the huddle and be ready to make another big play. celebrations can make a player look like a jerk. I really hate a player hammin himself for the cameras when he makes a play and his team is getting blasted on the scoreboard.

@ky...
You know I'm being entirely facetious....

smokeygrowl writes:

WHATS TOUGH IS READING UR DAMN ARTICLES ADAMS. AND AS FOR POWERFUL FRIEND; U SEE THAT US VOLS STICK TOGETHER WHEN WE NEED TOO. ITS LIKE HAVING AN UGLY DOG. ITS OUR DAMN UGLY DOG AND NO OUSIDERS ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT.

rbwtn writes:

His attitude is so Spot On I am beginning to see his virtues his power and it's exactly what the Kids need at Tennessee. Yes it will take him a little time but all for the better of our Schools respect!

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