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martinvol34 writes:

in response to Caspian:

No worries about holding onto existing recruits. So what if a few decommit. Happens everywhere, all the time. But the way Jones recruits, who knows who might flip to the Vols closer to signing day.

I hope we keep what we got and let the flippers go to Bama and post pics holding wads of cash, LOL. How hilarious. Could Vandy be next?

VolzsFan writes:

The difference in Hall of Fame coaches and the Johnny come latelys is the ability to recruit to the depth chart. There are no difference making OL and zero DL in this class. Not a winning strategy.

ReeseHallRelic writes:

in response to 8inarow:

dragon...maybe you should check your history books. Since the mid-70's, UF and ut have faced off 27 times, with the Gators winning 21. (that means you won 6 in the last 30+years)

As I said, the Vols tradition must have been in the 1800's, because no one outside of Knoxville can remember back that far.

Shhhhhhh! You shouldn't admit, out loud, that you have no knowledge that the rest of the world, outside of the landfill known as Flaw-duh, existed prior to the 1970s. That's true ignorance.

rbwtn writes:

I don't know what Butch Jones has to do to show fans He's ready to rock and roll! WE should for that reason alone Fill the Stadium to show our appreciation.

ReeseHallRelic writes:

in response to VolzsFan:

The difference in Hall of Fame coaches and the Johnny come latelys is the ability to recruit to the depth chart. There are no difference making OL and zero DL in this class. Not a winning strategy.

And, if recruiting for 2014 had come to an end, you'd be right: it might be a problem. There's a lot of time between now and February 2014 to pick up the hosses needed up front.

As long as you want to express your concerns about recruiting, you might want to fret a bit about the fact that Flaw-duh is currently 8th in the SEC in recruiting for 2014, and the Lizards are badly trailing both FSU and Miami in state.

Now THAT'S a problem....

MetroplexMojo writes:

A partial list of schools that have offered UT's OL committments...

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Boise St.
Clemson
Florida
Florida St.
Georgia
Louisville
Miami (FL)
Michigan
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Ohio St.
Oklahoma
Oregon
South Carolina
Texas
USC
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
Wisconsin

ctwins writes:

in response to chattabluetick:

David Pollack is one of the very few on college football shows the last couple of years to not talk down to the Tennessee Vols. He always shows respect to the Tennessee program while others are always running them down. He is a class individual and I hope he is sucessful in broadcasting. He was a player with a whale of a motor that never stopped competing, who's pro career was cut short by a neck injury. He's sold on Butch and so am I. What CBJ has done so far in recruiting is remarkable and I hope they all sign. He is still in on many others for 2014. His first win will be #800 for Vols, 2nd only to Alabama from S.E.C. who is around 829 wins.

Actually Bama is at 850 plus and yes I do count the 29 the NCAA revisionist history majors do not. I am sure RELee would like a do over at Gettysburg but that battle was fought and lost just like the outcome of those 29 games. Cheer up though as Bama is number one NATIONALLY IN BOWL WINS, BOWL GAMES, total # of 10 WIN SEASONS and NCs. 23 SEC Titles and rocky flop is a distant second with 13.

In a related recruiting note Charles Mosley will not commit/sign with UA. That ship has sailed. and you can take that to the bank.

antonio14313 writes:

in response to Caspian:

No worries about holding onto existing recruits. So what if a few decommit. Happens everywhere, all the time. But the way Jones recruits, who knows who might flip to the Vols closer to signing day.

i was thinking the same thing: if we lose 1 or 2 or 13 players, or whatever, they'd be replaced by that same number of players (and hopefully by the same caliber players, if not better players).

go vols!

t

ctwins writes:

in response to WaltGoVoIs:

It started with a coach called Neyland (Knee-land).

"He is one of two college football coaches to have won national titles in two non-consecutive tenures at the same school, along with Frank Leahy. Neyland holds the record for most wins in Tennessee Volunteers history with 173 wins in 216 games, six undefeated seasons, nine undefeated regular seasons, seven conference championships, and four national championships. At Tennessee, he reeled off undefeated streaks of 33, 28, 23, 19, and 14 games.

Neyland is often referred to as one of the best, if not the best, defensive football coaches ever. Sports Illustrated named Neyland as the defensive coordinator of its all-century college football team in its "Best of the 20th Century" edition.[3] 112 of his victories came via shutout. In 1938 and 1939, Neyland's Vols set NCAA records when they shut out 17 straight opponents for 71 consecutive shutout quarters. His '39 squad is the last NCAA team in history to hold every regular season opponent scoreless."

- wiki

UT has had the most successful program in college football going back to 1926.

Walt

UT '81

So how does UT have a losing record alltime against Bama, fewer alltime wins, fewer bowl games/wins, 10 fewer SEC Titles, 8 fewer AP/Coaches Poll Ncs, and you call yourself the most successful cfb......you need to stop drinking the hard stuff or you just ignore FACTS. FACTS, FACTS.......I realize you wish UA did not exist but come on man stop the garbage. You guys even have a losing alltime
against Awbarn lol..... and the mighty gators.

ancientvolfan2 writes:

I seriously don't think Adams is capable of writing a article without a slam on Fulmer, which is in this one.
We've had 4 seasons without Fulmer. Quit beating a dead horse, John. Or perhaps, the News-Sentinel thinks John brings more responses by being negative than he ever could being positive. In that case I understand and we'll have John writing negative things until he retires to keep the post coming.
I can see the article next year if Jones goes 5-7. "Our losing season's which started with Phil Fulmer, ....

FearTheVols1252 writes:

in response to VolzsFan:

The difference in Hall of Fame coaches and the Johnny come latelys is the ability to recruit to the depth chart. There are no difference making OL and zero DL in this class. Not a winning strategy.

Ummm... we're not done recruiting for 2014 yet... just in case you're a little slow.

Spewing ignorance on internet forums without thinking first isn't a 'winning strategy' either.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to tennlions:

I would be surprised if there were more than just a couple of commits that changed their minds before NSD. Look at the way these guys recruit others to this program. You don't try to sell someone on UT if you're planning on leaving.

A little "wastage" is to be expected in any recruiting class, but there are often a few who flip TO a class at the last minute as well. I'm not sure how much the UT tradition plays into these guys' calculations, but they surely DO know that the program has been down lately. Unless the Vols just fall on their faces and look helpless this year, most of the recruits will hang; they have already factored in the idea that the program is rebuilding, with THEM.

volinlouisvilleky writes:

in response to 8inarow:

dragon...maybe you should check your history books. Since the mid-70's, UF and ut have faced off 27 times, with the Gators winning 21. (that means you won 6 in the last 30+years)

As I said, the Vols tradition must have been in the 1800's, because no one outside of Knoxville can remember back that far.

I think you're getting scared! Will Muschamp (AKA Yosemite Sam) is a tool and managed to tenderize his players all regular season so they would be good and soft for the Sugar Bowl game against Louisville!

Ogslov!

murrayvol writes:

in response to johnlg00:

A little "wastage" is to be expected in any recruiting class, but there are often a few who flip TO a class at the last minute as well. I'm not sure how much the UT tradition plays into these guys' calculations, but they surely DO know that the program has been down lately. Unless the Vols just fall on their faces and look helpless this year, most of the recruits will hang; they have already factored in the idea that the program is rebuilding, with THEM.

This class will change some and for many reasons.....some good and some bad. The dearth of O and D linemen at this point is a concern but the competition for quality linemen is always intense and often goes to signing day.

PennVol writes:

Since most of today's recruits know very little about UT tradition (or at least UT success), I would guess Jones is getting recruits based on his own coaching merits, forming relationships with these kids and playing in the SEC. Go Vols!

Chappy writes:

in response to 8inarow:

I have watched SEC football for decades. Did this "tradition" happen in the 1800's?

Decades of watching SEC football, huh?

Too bad no one at the group home told you how to turn on the tv during that time.

Chappy writes:

in response to VolzsFan:

The difference in Hall of Fame coaches and the Johnny come latelys is the ability to recruit to the depth chart. There are no difference making OL and zero DL in this class. Not a winning strategy.

Look out everyone! We've got someone with a FL ed-u-ma-cation!

Why he's so smart, that he's already the head coach of...oh, wait-a-minute; you mean you're not a head coach? And that's why you post negative, anonymous comments here? And you come here to feel like a big man?

My advice: hang out on the gator site with your own kind, 'cause it just ain't working out for you here. We're going to have to let you go.

Lizardgrad89 writes:

Really John?

So how come Kentucky, which is in EXACTLY the same situation as UT right now (sans tradition) is NUMBER FOUR in recruiting? Could it be that the pitch of "you can start as a freshman in the SEC" is ACTUALLY what is attracting them? Hmmm?

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to Lizardgrad89:

Really John?

So how come Kentucky, which is in EXACTLY the same situation as UT right now (sans tradition) is NUMBER FOUR in recruiting? Could it be that the pitch of "you can start as a freshman in the SEC" is ACTUALLY what is attracting them? Hmmm?

Anyone knows that would play a part in it, but Bama (in other recruiting sites) has the # 1 class right now and playing time isn't their pitch. Facilities, chance to play, history, and charisma all are working in UT's favor right now..

SevenT writes:

Nobody that is 16-18 years old gives a rat poop about "Tennessee Tradition"!!! These young head bangers want the recruiters to show them the Love and Show me the Money!!

Phillip Fulmer understood this which is why he got into his car with bags of $$$ in his trunk and pulled in the best darn lineman out of Memphis money could buy.

Not that Complicated

chattabluetick writes:

in response to ctwins:

Actually Bama is at 850 plus and yes I do count the 29 the NCAA revisionist history majors do not. I am sure RELee would like a do over at Gettysburg but that battle was fought and lost just like the outcome of those 29 games. Cheer up though as Bama is number one NATIONALLY IN BOWL WINS, BOWL GAMES, total # of 10 WIN SEASONS and NCs. 23 SEC Titles and rocky flop is a distant second with 13.

In a related recruiting note Charles Mosley will not commit/sign with UA. That ship has sailed. and you can take that to the bank.

Just going by wiki, had no clue as to total of those other games. But NCAA has a say and they say those wins are stripped away as though they never happened. Stay off probation and all future wins will count.

Colliervol writes:

in response to ctwins:

Actually Bama is at 850 plus and yes I do count the 29 the NCAA revisionist history majors do not. I am sure RELee would like a do over at Gettysburg but that battle was fought and lost just like the outcome of those 29 games. Cheer up though as Bama is number one NATIONALLY IN BOWL WINS, BOWL GAMES, total # of 10 WIN SEASONS and NCs. 23 SEC Titles and rocky flop is a distant second with 13.

In a related recruiting note Charles Mosley will not commit/sign with UA. That ship has sailed. and you can take that to the bank.

You mean like Dee Liner was taking that cash to the bank?

WaltGoVoIs writes:

in response to ctwins:

So how does UT have a losing record alltime against Bama, fewer alltime wins, fewer bowl games/wins, 10 fewer SEC Titles, 8 fewer AP/Coaches Poll Ncs, and you call yourself the most successful cfb......you need to stop drinking the hard stuff or you just ignore FACTS. FACTS, FACTS.......I realize you wish UA did not exist but come on man stop the garbage. You guys even have a losing alltime
against Awbarn lol..... and the mighty gators.

Other teams have had some -low- lows. Bammer's been 2-8, Auburn was 0-10 one year. Florida's had some 1-9 years. Same with Nebraska, USC, and on and on.

UT has won at least 4 games every year since 1926.

Walt

UT '81

WaltGoVoIs writes:

in response to ctwins:

Actually Bama is at 850 plus and yes I do count the 29 the NCAA revisionist history majors do not. I am sure RELee would like a do over at Gettysburg but that battle was fought and lost just like the outcome of those 29 games. Cheer up though as Bama is number one NATIONALLY IN BOWL WINS, BOWL GAMES, total # of 10 WIN SEASONS and NCs. 23 SEC Titles and rocky flop is a distant second with 13.

In a related recruiting note Charles Mosley will not commit/sign with UA. That ship has sailed. and you can take that to the bank.

The Volunteers have a better record than Bammer since 1926.

Bammer was 0-10 in 1955.

Bammer was 2-7-1 in both 1956 and 1957.

Bammer was 1-12 in 1993.

Bammer was 3-8 in 2000.

Bammer was 0-2 in 2005.

Bammer was 0-7 in 2006.

Bammer was 2-6 in 2007.

The things you learn, huh?

Meanwhile, the Vols kept cranking out the wins.

Walt

UT '81

WaltGoVoIs writes:

Florida was 2-6-2 in 1926

Florida was 2-6-2 in 1931

Florida was 3-5 in 1935

Florida was 0-9 in 1946

Florida was 3-5 in 1954

Florida was 0-10 in 1979

Walt

UT '81

WaltGoVoIs writes:

Auburn was 0-7 in 1927

Auburn was 1-8 in 1928

Auburn was 2-8 in 1934

Auburn was 1-8 in 1948

Auburn was 2-4-3 in 1949. More ties than wins. Wow.

Auburn was 2-8 in 1952

Auburn was 3-8 in 1998

Walt

UT '81

WaltGoVoIs writes:

Michigan was 1-7 in 1934

Michigan was 1-7 in 1936

Michigan was 2-6-1 in 1958

Michigan was 2-7-2 in 1962

Michigan was 3-8 in 2008

Walt

UT '81

Tau_of_Tennessee writes:

in response to BolivrBob:

BUTch really knows how to create excitement. I believe it will translate into vastly improved play. Prediction: One of the top defenses in the conference. 9-3

I hope you are right, but I do not understand how we can replace the 80% of our offense from last year. I am hoping for a 500 season and retention of most of the commitments thus far for 2014.

WaltGoVoIs writes:

Here's a little tidbit:

"The Vols play at historic Neyland Stadium, where Tennessee has an all-time winning record of 430 games, the second-highest home-field total in college football history for any school in the nation at its current home venue. Only Georgia Tech's Bobby Dodd Stadium, which opened in 1913, eight years before the 1921 opening of Neyland, has hosted more victories (432) for its team."

Walt

UT '81

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to WaltGoVoIs:

Here's a little tidbit:

"The Vols play at historic Neyland Stadium, where Tennessee has an all-time winning record of 430 games, the second-highest home-field total in college football history for any school in the nation at its current home venue. Only Georgia Tech's Bobby Dodd Stadium, which opened in 1913, eight years before the 1921 opening of Neyland, has hosted more victories (432) for its team."

Walt

UT '81

I can't believe I'm about to say this..But, good work, Walter..

WaltGoVoIs writes:

in response to ctwins:

So how does UT have a losing record alltime against Bama, fewer alltime wins, fewer bowl games/wins, 10 fewer SEC Titles, 8 fewer AP/Coaches Poll Ncs, and you call yourself the most successful cfb......you need to stop drinking the hard stuff or you just ignore FACTS. FACTS, FACTS.......I realize you wish UA did not exist but come on man stop the garbage. You guys even have a losing alltime
against Awbarn lol..... and the mighty gators.

"Facts are mighty stubborn things."

-- John Adams

Smokeydog1 writes:

in response to chattabluetick:

David Pollack is one of the very few on college football shows the last couple of years to not talk down to the Tennessee Vols. He always shows respect to the Tennessee program while others are always running them down. He is a class individual and I hope he is sucessful in broadcasting. He was a player with a whale of a motor that never stopped competing, who's pro career was cut short by a neck injury. He's sold on Butch and so am I. What CBJ has done so far in recruiting is remarkable and I hope they all sign. He is still in on many others for 2014. His first win will be #800 for Vols, 2nd only to Alabama from S.E.C. who is around 829 wins.

David Pollack was a class guy who seemed really excited to talk college football and was very nice to me and my family. He was there with his family and took the time to talk to me when I recognized him. You can tell he is genuine and really likes his job.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to murrayvol:

This class will change some and for many reasons.....some good and some bad. The dearth of O and D linemen at this point is a concern but the competition for quality linemen is always intense and often goes to signing day.

I have been concerned all along about the small number of linemen committed. With exception of the Berry twins, I would rather ALL UT's remaining offers go to linemen. Jones and staff don't strike me as the sort who just wouldn't, you know, NOTICE that they were going to lose a lot of linemen after this season and that they were going to need to restock in a big way. I hope they have a few "silent" commitments from linemen to roll out in due course.

WaltGoVoIs writes:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

I can't believe I'm about to say this..But, good work, Walter..

Yeah.

No rebuttal from the peanut gallery. All elephants have a peanut gallery, right?

There are probably some Bammer fans that would poison my trees if they could get away with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSzcR...

FIGHT WITH ALL YOUR MIGHT FOR THE ORANGE AND WHITE!!!

Walt

UT '81

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