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Rumblefish writes:

in response to FWBVol:

Mark Stoops, won, as you put it, as a defensive coordinator at Florida State. And Cincinnati under Jones beat Louisville coached by Strong twice in three years.

Anyone can make facts look how they want them to look.

Absolutely....that's why I can say that Butch Jones has won the conf championship, or a share of the conf championship, 4 out of the 6 yrs he has been a head coach.

Does that work for ya??? Or do you only choose to see the sunshine and rainbows???

I'm not saying anything that ain't true.

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