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Chope writes:

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I think Gruden was tired of hearing that he was coming to UT. I like Jon, think he knows the game, but this whole process became about him and not UT.

Gruden inherited a Tony Dungy Tampa Bay team and won the Super Bowl his first year (2002) , beating the Oakland Raiders, who he just left. So... he took someone elses team and beat his old team. After 2002 he went 7-9, 5-11, 11-5, 4-12, 9-7, and then 9-7 in his final season in 2008. Only twice did he make it to the playoffs and was beaten both times in the first round.

Is this a record UT fans would tolerate?

We live in a rock star world, kids would have flocked here, if you have better players you win more than not. I am old and wish ethics, hard work, disclipine appealed to 18 year olds, but they loved Kiffin and oregon. They all have seen Gruden on mnf, noone else will be as attractive as him.

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