Posted by james on December 26, 2007 at 9:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't think the VOLS can call during the dead period. Kelly, call back after the first of the year. Don't lose faith. The VOLS nation would welcome you.

Posted by pdhuff on December 26, 2007 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oh well. He's not aware they're not supposed to call. Darn rules and regulations.

Posted by heathut15 on December 26, 2007 at 9:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i think that the head coach should be talking to this kidd to atleast let him know that we want him to come here he knows what is going on he would understand and he would still be wanting to come here and play

Posted by IPOrange on December 26, 2007 at 9:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Can't do it during the dead period.....

Posted by heathut15 on December 26, 2007 at 9:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

they should have talked to him before the dead period

Posted by IPOrange on December 26, 2007 at 9:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good point. Once Coach Cutcliffe made his announcement, was there enough time to do that before the no-call period began?

Posted by bricker865 on December 26, 2007 at 9:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprosp...

Posted by Plasticman on December 26, 2007 at 10:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If I'm not mistaken, a prospect can call the coaches during the dead period. Why doesn't he call Fulmer of Atkins?

Posted by wp4ut on December 27, 2007 at 12:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

as of right now the VOLS are about 43rd in the latest ranking of prospects for 2008 so unless UT takes in the consideration of the prospects and start communicating better this years recruiting class is in shambles if not already.

Posted by dfreeman on December 27, 2007 at 12:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey 12times, aren't you the one that went to "Carson-Newman Collage"?? Try spelling college right! Oh and allowded isn't a word!! Again I am going to ask your spineless A$$ if you are in fact a Collier???? Who are you and what restaraunts do you own?? Let the TN trash and idiots decide wether or not your food is worth their money!! Put your money where your mouth is you lowlife!! I bet you knew Logan Young personally didn't you??

Posted by hdhurst on December 27, 2007 at 2:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Here's a cheap shot, but I thought it was humorous.

Coach Cut couldn't call him before the dead period because he was too busy calling his DUKE recruits.

:)

Posted by nbt on December 27, 2007 at 6:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Foolmer, forget Kelly! You have a super talented QB from Alcoa named Randall Cobb you need to be recruiting! Why do you recruit out of state when you have so many great players here right under your nose?

Posted by GreerVol22 on December 27, 2007 at 8:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hdhurst, not cheap at all. Anyone in Cutt's shoes would be doing the same thing. One just has to hope that the quality recruits were contacted timely and that an OC is named the day after the bowl game.

Posted by Plasticman on December 27, 2007 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

nbt44, Fulmer is trying to get Cobb to come to TN. He has offered him a scholarship. What more do you wnat him to do? Oh, I guess he could offer him some $$$, like Alabama does...

Posted by marc_ash on December 27, 2007 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why the big issue? Sounds to me like Kelly made it clear UT was no longer his top choice. If he doesn't want to play for the Vols then c-ya. If you don't make UT your top priority, what makes you think they will make you theirs mr. kelly?

Posted by marc_ash on December 27, 2007 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

dfreeman, you know 12times is full of !#$%. NOBODY that uneducated could own a business. Now, he may WORK for one of those restaraunts in the dishroom, but you know as well as I do anyone who spells college "collage" can't be all that swift. Besides, he's an Alabama guy...so that alone explains it.

Posted by jweaver3 on December 27, 2007 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If we are truly looking for an OC that can run the spread option, this guy may not be in UT's future because he is a pro style QB!!
GO VOLS
TXVOLSFAN

Posted by bigbluevol on December 27, 2007 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Um...someone should tell this kid that Butch Davis didn't lead Miami to any national championships. In fact, the only one that they won was when Coker was the coach. Sure it was with Davis' recruits, but Davis didn't get them there. Similarly, he didn't exactly leave the NFL on his terms. The Browns seemed to be more than willing to show him the door.

Posted by grvol on December 27, 2007 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

These days you have to recruit early and get the early commitments. Can't finish strong if everyone is already committed. That's where Fulmer finds himself. Instead of recruiting early he and his staff were too busy trying to save their jobs after the early season debacles. Same thing happened during 05' debacle season. Saving their a$$es on the field thru the easy November schedule, no recruiting. Only 1 out of 3 top ten recruiting finishes last 3 years. Currently 43rd, 9th! in the conference behind Ole Miss. How can anything think this program is not sliding.

Posted by bigbluevol on December 27, 2007 at 9:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For the last time: think about it before you just start bemoaning the recruiting class. First, Fulmer always finishes strong. Just because someone's committed doesn't mean that they can't change their mind. We've been on both ends of it before. I mean, Chris Simms committed to the Vols on TV before reneging and signing with Texas. Second, we finished with a top 3 recruiting class last year and before the '05 season, so we're 50-50 in that department in the last 4 years instead of 1/3 as you say grvol. Third, when you finish with a high class one year, it's going to make it more difficult to sign those impact players since they don't want to wait to play. Fourth, recruiting rankings have a lot to do with the positions the player plays. WR's, RB's and QB's get weighted more heavily. We got a lot of WR's and RB's last year. Fifth, many of our best players coming in won't factor into the rankings: Brandon Warren, Gerald Williams and Demetrice Morley. Sixth, it's not over 'til it's over. Seventh, Fulmer is regarded as one of the best recruiters in the country. He knows how to play this game, so he doesn't need tips from us.

Posted by orangebloodgmc on December 27, 2007 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bigblue, in your opinion, is there at least a 60% chance that Morley will be back? Sjt, any info on this?

Posted by pdhuff on December 27, 2007 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

true-grvol "Ites" choose to ignore that virtually all top 100 picks have committed. Look at AJC.com Southern postings to see how we're doing in the South. Vols may not break the top 30. We mistakenly thought only captains went down with their ship. This class will not have an impact under Fulmer's caste system until 2009 at best. Stay the course. Feel-good fuzzy is the order of the day. No realism, please.

Vols, somehow thru this circus, beat the Badgers. Pople ruled inelgible only moved the line from -3.5 to -2. Apparently they weren't impact players per the "Experts".

Posted by pdhuff on December 27, 2007 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"pople"?? Too early! meant people. #$#$

Posted by bigbluevol on December 27, 2007 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way, plenty of teams have success without having top 10 recruiting classes. When Fulmer gets them, people get mad that he doesn't win the national title. When he doesn't, suddenly he can't recruit. No matter what, the guy is a failure to some people.

Posted by TommyJack on December 27, 2007 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

dfreeman: As I said, 12times is a mullet-headed, backy-spittin, frontporch-sittin, old car up on blocks-ownin, banjo playin, camel smokin, loser/poser.

Posted by pdhuff on December 27, 2007 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack- has our man Hamilton vanished off the face of the earth? He was very "quoty" until Cut decided to split. Fulmer need those "man-hugs" ala S Caroline now. Step up, Mikey, tell us the course we're staying. Go Vols.

Posted by jdcdjc on December 27, 2007 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just keep draging your feet Fulmer and loose all the recruits

Posted by bigbluevol on December 27, 2007 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Please learn the difference between loose and lose. It's an epidemic that has got to be stopped on these boards.

Posted by waterskier3 on December 27, 2007 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

we need the best recruits because that's the only thing that's made fat boy competitive... look at our record against top 15 talent since our talent has been up and down in recruiting... lately our recruiting has been average at best, unitl last year, and look at our record????? any connections.... people are insane to think that you can recruit average talent and win championships...... the proof is in front of your very eyes......

we have to have the talent because fulmer is not smart enough to make game time adjustments to win if his plan doesn't work.........

BTW adkins will be the oc and phil will call the plays next year.... so kelly see you playing at NC.

does anyone know if we sold all our tickets to the outback bowl?

Posted by TommyJack on December 27, 2007 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dfreeman: You got that? lol

Posted by bigbluevol on December 27, 2007 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey 12times, no "sets" in a suite. Just because you SIT down in there occassionally as you deliver food and clean up, doesn't really impress any of us. Not everyone loved Logan Young in Alabama, either. Many were glad that they no longer had to worry about him meddling with their program and overpaying for bust recruits. By the way, the Bear is dead and Saban will be singing Steve Miller's "Go On Take the Money and Run" in the very near future when he realizes that no one on earth can live up to your insane expectations.

Posted by grvol on December 27, 2007 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BigBlue that's 1 out of 3 counting this year. No way this class can be salvaged to a top ten. There just aren't enough top prospects left out there. Would have to be a lot of de-commits changing to Vols for that to happen. After the now-annual bowl debacle that is unlikely to happen.

Posted by bigbluevol on December 27, 2007 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

gr, you're not counting 2005's class. That's 2 out of 4 counting this year's upcoming one. We were highly ranked in 2005, not so in 2006, very high in 2007 and who knows how we'll finish this year. 17-18 year old kids can change their minds. Even if we don't get a top 10 recruiting class, as long as they fill their needs, they'll be ok. Again, think of the impact that Morley, Warren and Williams will have. They won't be factored in, and neither will the guy coming from minor league baseball (his name eludes me at the moment.) He'll be mature and if he's a bust, it won't count against us because he's walking on.

Posted by grvol on December 27, 2007 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Keep on drinkin' the kool aid. Give Fulmer yet another extension before the bowl.

Posted by grvol on December 27, 2007 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm not pinning my hopes on three guys (Morley, Warren and Williams)who may not even qualify (again) much less pass six lousy jock hours once they do get in (again).

Posted by grvol on December 27, 2007 at 12:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Guess 12 times has to plog on a Vol site since those who are interested can't read the Bama sites. No one here cares what you do or how much money you have. You obviously have no brains or class to go with it. Let us Vol fans vent to each other. Stay the hell off.

Posted by bigbluevol on December 27, 2007 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

gr, I'm not telling you to pin your hopes on them. I'm just telling you to maybe be a little positive. However, if you want to gripe, feel free. I choose to look on the brightside of life. As for 12times, if your restaurants are as bad as your grammar, then I'm sure you owe people a lot more than a thank you. You don't "set" you sit, moron. And, I'm not impressed with your list of "friends."

Posted by vjnd3 on December 27, 2007 at 12:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ALABAMA IS ALABAMA AND TENNESSEE IS NOT. Thank god for small favors.

Posted by grvol on December 27, 2007 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bigblue, I am positive. Wanting Fulmer out and the best in IS looking on the bright side. I just don't believe in beating a dead horse. Those who think Fulmer isn't on the slide are doing just that.

Posted by pdhuff on December 27, 2007 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, we haven't quite (emphasis on quite) reached the point where we had to pony up 4mil to overhaul our ship. We may not be far away as some think.

Many of our mainsails are tattered with a worn-out crew from staying a rugged course. Our charts are out-of-date. Our sailing master has left for Dook. Our recruiter/coach has fled to Texas.

Casey Kelly, young man, you are not alone in waiting on the future of Vol offensive football. Meanwhile, the listing ship sails on. Maybe better weather than giving up a 100 in two games awaits. Go Vols!

Posted by grvol on December 27, 2007 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

12 times, I admit I can't type. My mistakes are mere typos. Your myriad grammar and spelling errors demonstrate your Alabama public school edgkashun. Stay the hell off this sight you jerk off. Get on a kiddy porn sight and look for your niece (on both sides).

Posted by bricker865 on December 27, 2007 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

12times, you're perhaps the biggest idiot I've ever seen post on here. FOAD

Posted by BigOrangeJeff on December 27, 2007 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey 12TIMES,
Will you be changing your name to 13 before or after the prestigious PetroSun bowl?

By the way, it's a good thing your daddy could afford to pay for that Carson-Newman degree, because there's no way you could have earned it with your spelling.

Go Big Orange!!!!!!!!!

Posted by bigbluevol on December 27, 2007 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

12times, I'm glad that you're so proud of Carson-Newman. I know that they wouldn't say the same for you. The only thing that's soon to be 13 times is the number of coaching changes at your beloved UA since the death of Bear Bryant. Saban will leave you high and dry just like Fran did. He'll make you long for the days of Dubose and sexual harrassment lawsuits. Your posts are nothing more than poorly written and full of false bravado. No one is impressed by you and certainly no one fears you. As for your 41-17, congratulations. Even the sun shines on a dog's a$$ every now and then. We'll see you in Knoxville and you can have fun watching your beloved JPW get his clock cleaned while you fulfill your janitorial obligations in the suites.

Posted by marc_ash on December 27, 2007 at 2:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Carson Newman degree hu? Wow, you sure are the poster boy for advertising for that University 12times.

Lets recap: 12times name drops people that A. either don't know him or B. Don't like him at all. He then talks about an "prestigeous" education from Carson Newman where he "graduates" while not knowing how to "set" in class or double space a sentence. Next, he talks about how wonderful Alabama is (note: 12 times never went to Alabama because he...believe it or not, wasn't smart enough to get in) and revels in their prestigeous trip to the Petro Sun Bowl after finishing a DYNAMIC 6-6 and losing to La Monroe AT HOME after being favored by 24.5 points.

12times continues to bad mouth Vol fans and the program, but finds it necessary to continue posting on this site. Must be somewhat similar to penis envy eh mr times?

In closing, 12 times forgets how high the expectations were at alabama this season and how sadly they failed in meeting them. Must be tough thinking about Alabama's record against the Vols over the past 15 years right?

Louisiana-Monroe, which beat Nick Saban and Alabama 21-14 in Tuscaloosa, is not a good team. Not even by Sun Belt standards. Back on Oct. 13, ULM lost to North Texas 31-21. It's still the only win of the year for 1-9 North Texas. By the way, if you're counting at home, here's a list of some of the teams that have won AT Alabama over the last decade:
Year Team
2007 La.-Monroe
2003 Northern Illinois
2000 Central Florida
1999 Louisiana Tech

What a great tradition 12times. Keep up the good work!

Posted by marc_ash on December 27, 2007 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a gift to you 12imes: Enjoy.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?g...

Posted by bigbluevol on December 27, 2007 at 4:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Man...your vacation must really suck for you to be spending all this time on a message board that isn't even for the team you support. Why don't you go troll the Auburn boards, or go spend some time with your wife on your vacation, genius. Or, do you not "fill" like it?

Posted by BigOrangeJeff on December 27, 2007 at 5:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

12times, let me set you straight.

First, if we (like you) counted each time the Piggly Wiggle press named us National Champions, we would have our "six or seven" national titles. Obviously, the six you have won legitimately - of which you should be very proud - isn't good enough to Sliders and their gross inferiority complexes.

Second, no one believes that, at the beginning of the season, you would have been proud of a bowl game in Shreveport. Hell, some of you guys even guaranteed another MNC.

Third, I can't believe you're screaming about the fact that your bowl game is the only game on that day, as if that's something to brag about. If so, I guess it ranks right up there with the San Diego County Credit Union Bowl, the R&L Carriers Bowl, the Sheraton Bowl, the Motor City Bowl, the International Bowl, and the GMAC Bowl.

Finally, who exactly is it you say you are and how can Shawn Summers verify it? All I can tell is that you're some goober whose life is so pathetic that you troll other teams' websites trying to make you "fill" better about yourself.

Grow up, get a job, move out of your mom's basement, and quit spending your welfare money on booze at Texas Roadhouse.

BOJ

Posted by cdldoc on December 27, 2007 at 6:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

12TIMES, u r pa thet ic. ken u under stan me? I wil tri 2 spek ur lingo. go home 2 ur alabamber tidey bowl, boi. U ken watch the Vols on ur tv new years, if n u gots 1.
Pi$$ off Loser and cheater.

Posted by dfreeman on December 27, 2007 at 6:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

12times - I know plenty of people in Gatlinburg. None of them act near as bad as your classless a$$!! I had a friend that went out with one of the two Collier daughters, don't assume anything about me you hick!! I do however know all I need to know to find out everything else about you!! You dumb hick!!!

Posted by dfreeman on December 27, 2007 at 6:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tommyjack - the earlier post about 12times had me rolling around in the floor!!! Thanks for the laugh!!

Posted by NewMexicoVol on December 27, 2007 at 8:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know the Collier girls (and boys) well, and I just can't believe they are a tpoic on this message board. This is the first and last time I will post a message on here. 12Times is undoubtedly an idiot and almost certainly a liar. But I can't believe you folks waste your time responding to a guy who can't type, namedrops Sevier County business people and a chef at a hotel/resturant than anyone with a travel guide or the internet can name, and that (purportedly) spends his vacation on this website. Not to mention that he places Ruth's Chris in the same echelon as one of the most touted five-stars in the U.S. and brags about going to Carson-Newman, which, last time I checked, hadn't edged out Harvard in the academic standings. I won't know because I won't read any more of this garbage, but please, Vol fans, let it go... just read the news and sensible comments and let it go.

Posted by dfreeman on December 28, 2007 at 12:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, 12braincells actually you named the whole fam damily!! You must be proud!! I only mentioned a last name, and if your world was bigger than Gatlinburg you might've understood that no one else would have known who I was talking about!! When you get off your knees tell "Mr Summers" to help you up and that we Vol fans said hi!!

You calling us hillbilly's is hilarious by the way!! You live in a town that thrives on a "hillbilly" image!!!

Cleaning jockstraps in the locker room doesn't mean you were a member of the Carson-Newman football team!

TouchdownTN - let's take NewMexicoVol's advice and shut him out!! Don't say a word to this jacka$$!!

Posted by Retiredvol on December 28, 2007 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Blue vol you are exactly right on the recruiting. Coach Fulmer is tops in the nation in recruiting no doubt in my mind he just can't coach on the field very well. Average at best!!!

Posted by dfreeman on December 28, 2007 at 3:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TouchdownTN - Yeah, if you can find the spineless one!!! He won't tell you his name even though he apparently has no problem naming others.... Make sure you tell me what time and place, I'd like to put my money on ya!!

Posted by auttat on December 28, 2007 at 4:14 p.m.

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Posted by raynochonspeed on December 28, 2007 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Do not feed the trolls (e.g. 12times). They're likely to stay around.

Also, more great recruiting news from espn.com:

"Lerentee McCray concerned about potential Vols coaching turnover

Former Hurricanes ESPN 150 outside linebacker pledge Lerentee McCray told volunteertv.com, "Tennessee was up there, but they got a lot of coaching chances so that changes things. All of the coaches that were recruiting me are leaving. Coach [Kurt] Roper and coach [Matt] Luke have told me they are leaving."
Both assistants are slated to follow former Tennessee offensive coordinator David Cutcliffe to Duke. Luke has been the Volunteers' recruiting coordinator along with his duties as tight ends coach."

Posted by pdhuff on December 28, 2007 at 8:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

raynochspeed - good post and advice.

Recruits are fickle. Instead of wanting to play for ol' Siwash, they're young and like to attach themselves to a person they met face-to-face. That's normal. Kinda like when I was a freshman and met Linda H., a junior. Still think about her many years later.

There will be other McCrays.

Posted by FWBVol on December 29, 2007 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

KNS and GoVolsXtra staff, I think you would be doing all the readers on the site a service if you banned 12TIMES from posting any longer. I believe this person does nothing but violate the spirit of the agreement not to post defamatory, obscene or abusive comments with their constant implications that Tennessee fans are nothing more than inbreds, trailer trash and drug abusers.

I've been a subscriber since the days the site was a pay site under my current username and the username of DolphinVol. 12TIMES by far and away violates the posted policy of this site and I hope you will do the right thing to take care of the problem.

Posted by dfreeman on December 29, 2007 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sweet TouchdownTN!! I'll buy your first shot after the dust clears!!

Posted by FWBVol on December 29, 2007 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

12TIMES equals A. The number of regular season losses Alabama has the last two years. B. The number of coaches that turned Alabama down in the last two coaching searches, or C. How many years he repeated the first grade.

And the answer is D. All of the above

Posted by murrayvol on December 29, 2007 at 7:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This column would barely reach the "hot" threshold if 12TIMES had layed off the sauce. By my count 10 of 83 posts to date.

I couldn't care less since I don't read his posts but it does make it cumbersome to scroll through all the crap.

Agreed FWB. Time to pull the plug on this dude and let Auburn deal with him. What's their streak vs the Mullet Nation now?? 5 and 6 on the way? That's gotta hurt.

Posted by 3rdtenn on December 29, 2007 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Please don't knock Carson Newman. It has been a good Baptist school that often takes in poor idiots such as 12 times to try and rehab and redeem them but some are beyond help. I am sure Carson Newman wishes it never had tried to help at least one of their students. Please don't misunderstand me, I want Bama to lose every game they ever play except for when they play Notre Dame, but we can not judge all Bama fans by this one fellow. I know many that would be ashamed of him.

Posted by dfreeman on December 29, 2007 at 9:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TouchdownTN - 12nonspines is busy hanging all over "Mr. Summers" Johnson!!

Your wife sounds like a smart woman!! When you get done with ole no. 12 let's take some shots of old no.7 and toast his sorry A$$ as he floats on by like the turd he is!!

Posted by pdhuff on December 29, 2007 at 9:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anyone know who we're supposed to be playing?

TD- Linda H now runs a flower shop about 30 miles away and I still don't have the nerve to stop in and see her. Also, the thought of a used mobile mansion in the hills compared to me and Mama's farmhouse cools that ardor. If she is your sister, congrats to your daddy. He knew what he was doing. Stay the course. I need a glazed with this Jaegermeister.

Posted by flyinpro on December 30, 2007 at 8:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

nbt44

UT would be doing better to forget Cobb and go after the Maryville kid. Cobb has never beat a good HS team as 2A in TN is the weak of the weak!
How about those grades?

Oh I forgot, Grades mean very little at UT if you are a football player.