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TAMPA, Fla. — Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer has interviewed at least two new candidates to replace offensive coordinator David Cutcliffe. A third — and a more familiar name — could soon surface.
Michigan quarterbacks coach Scott Loeffler met with Fulmer here this week as the Vols prepare for Tuesday’s Outback Bowl against Wisconsin, a source within the program said. Michigan is preparing to play Florida in the Capital One Bowl in nearby Orlando.
Only running backs coach Fred Jackson was retained from Michigan’s coaching staff by new coach Rich Rodriguez.
Fulmer has also spoken with San Francisco 49ers quarterback coach Frank Cignetti, the source said.
Also, UT receivers coach Trooper Taylor would reconsider his decision to leave the Vols for the co-coordinator position at Oklahoma State, the source said, if he became a candidate.
Taylor was never offered the coordinator position at UT.
It is unknown if Fulmer, who did not return phone calls or text messages from the News Sentinel on Sunday, would re-consider Taylor now that Kippy Brown appears to no longer be a candidate.
Brown, who was reported by the News Sentinel to be the leading candidate for the job, is expected to named offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions, according to multiple media reports. He has been receivers coach for the Lions for two seasons. The same multiple media reports claimed that offensive coordinator Mike Martz would be fired.
Brown’s decision not to return to UT, where he coached receivers in 1983-98 and 1993-94, is thought to be centered around Fulmer’s reluctance to allow Brown to hire his own offensive staff.
Final negotiations were ongoing with Brown late last week. Compensation was not thought to be an issue. Since leaving UT in 1994, Brown has primarily been a position coach in the NFL, although he was offensive coordinator for the Miami Dolphins from 1998-99.
Fulmer has said he’d like to have a complete offensive staff in place by Jan. 11, when UT will host a significant group of official visitors. UT’s coaches are scheduled to be on the road recruiting the following week. Meeting that deadline seems less likely now that Brown has been eliminated.
UT is also expected to lose running backs coach Kurt Roper and assistant offensive line/tight ends coach Matt Luke. The pair will join Cutcliffe at Duke. Roper is expected to be named offensive coordinator and Luke will be offensive line coach.
Fulmer has also interviewed Clemson offensive coordinator Rob Spence on Dec. 21 in Knoxville. Spence, who said he was never offered a job by UT, announced Saturday he was withdrawing his name and remaining at Clemson.
Cignetti, 42, has been with the 49ers for one season. He was offensive coordinator for North Carolina in 2006 and spent the four previous years as offensive cooridnator at Fresno State.
He spent two seasons (2000-01) as quarterbacks coach for the New Orleans Saints. He joined the Saints after coaching one season as an offensive assistant and quality control coach with the Kansas City Chiefs.
From 1990-98, Cignetti was an assistant at his alma mater, Indiana University of Pennsylvania, where he coached receivers (1990-92), secondary (1993-94), quarterbacks (1995-98) and was elevated to offensive coordinator during his final two seasons.
Cignetti got his start in coaching as a graduate assistant at the University of Pittsburgh in 1989.
Cignetti’s father, Frank, recently retired after 24 seasons as the coach at IUP and West Virginia.
Loeffler, 33, has been on Michigan’s staff the past six years, returning to his alma mater in 2002 after two seasons as quarterbacks coach at Central Michigan.
Loeffler spent 1993-99 with Michigan as backup quarterback (1993-95), as a student assistant (1996-97) when a shoulder injury ended his playing career and as a graduate assistant (1998-99).
© 2007, Knoxville News Sentinel Co.

Posted by brdteton on December 30, 2007 at 5:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Out of these guys, I will take Troop any day of the week...
Posted by jevolball7 on December 30, 2007 at 5:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It's the old adverb song:who,what,where when and how!!Foolmer, you better get it together.I'd bring Trooper back,at least he has the FIRE!!!
Posted by GIVEHIMSIX on December 30, 2007 at 5:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Fulmer's unwillingness to give up control is apparently turning this from a great opportunity to turn the program in the right direction to a scramble for anyone available. Other SEC programs are probably laughing at us. Seems like CPF thought he could wait as long as he wanted and get anybody out there. Trooper Taylor seems like the best option at this point. Fans would love to see TT back, but that still shows how ill managed this search has been. We should have taken notes from Auburn. Better yet, we should have taken their coachin staff.
Posted by lnbadger320 on December 30, 2007 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
that really worries me about fulmer not letting kippy pick his own offensive coaches. is fulmer that insecure about his job? i guess we now know who called the play from when sanders was offensive coach. this is not looking good at all.
Posted by ONUV on December 30, 2007 at 5:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
*yawn*
Posted by TommyJack on December 30, 2007 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What GIVEHIMSIX said. This is so stinkin predictable. Let's just take the leftover, CPF. Stay the course. Wake up Faithful...You've been duped again. Pound the rock and pass the pastry.
Posted by scvols on December 30, 2007 at 6:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So much for Brown coming in and being part of the team, no he wants to make his on team. If Roper and Luke leaves, he would be able to hire 2 assistance anyway. Sounds to me that he wants to stay in the pros, so best of luck to him. I just glad Fulmer is our coach and has the backbone to stand up to these "I want full control" guys.
Posted by Ironcity on December 30, 2007 at 6:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If Brown is being named the O coorinator at Detroit, then he made the right decision. That team has a lot of upside and he would become a leading canidate for an NFL job if that happened. I trust Fulmer knows what he is doing. I think it would be ironic if Taylor ended up staying. It also sounds to me like Loeffler may be considered for the QB coach. If thats the case thats a good hire.
Posted by bshell12 on December 30, 2007 at 6:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Trooper please stay..... forgive phil for being dumb and not hiring you on the spot
Posted by pdhuff on December 30, 2007 at 6:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Trooper, stay at OSU. Odds are, he's not going to offer you or he would have already. Adkins, you da man, I believe. Let's keep it in the family. Echo -NFL coaches don't like recruiting!
Phil will find someone on his own good time. Anyone remember the Badgers?
Posted by TommyJack on December 30, 2007 at 6:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ironcity: If TT stays, it would be beyond ironic. It would make CPF look even more clueless. Work like heck.
Posted by FWBVol on December 30, 2007 at 6:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
OK, I know I'm one of those who has continually stuck up for Phillip Fulmer, and I'll do so again. While I can understand a coordinator's desire to hire his offensive staff, I also see Fulmer, or any other HC's point that wants to hire the staff.
A lot of people are complaining about the assistants that will apparently follow David Cutcliffe to Duke. What happens if the new OC comes in, hires his own staff, and leaves for a head coaching job in a couple of years taking with him several members of the offensive staff?
I can see it now. So many of you that are now complaining that Fulmer should let the OC hire his own staff, will be bashing him because the guy brought in people that he was going to take with him all along.
I've had jobs in retail and fast food management, and as an assistant manager I had input into who was hired, but the store manager made the ultimate decision.
If the OC makes bad hire it would still come back to Fulmer. Some say that shows he's not secure, I say that shows he being prudent.
Posted by Chrisoda751 on December 30, 2007 at 6:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'd like to see Hooker just come out and make a statement instead of implying a bunch of stuff that may or may not be true. This is a perfect example of the News Sentinel trying to undercut the program.
Posted by FWBVol on December 30, 2007 at 6:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh yeah, I can't believe that if Kippy was really interested in assembling his own offensive staff that it wasn't one of the first things he discussed with CPF. Maybe he was using the UT OC position to give him a bargaining tool with the Lions or some other NFL team.
Posted by nmvol on December 30, 2007 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
No one wants to take a job at a program where the head coach will likely be gone this time next year. 2008 will be the train wreck that finishes Fulmer.
Posted by sidwalkvol on December 30, 2007 at 6:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"...is thought to be..."
By WHOM, we might ask. I agree with Chrisoda. These journalists have a deadline and a vested interest in stirring the pot.
Posted by IPOrange on December 30, 2007 at 6:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Verrrrry Interesting.....
Posted by Buckley on December 30, 2007 at 6:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A sport writer gives his opinion like it was rumored that Fulmer wouldn't let him hire the offensive staff. People jump on this like it is the truth. Yet these same people rake the same writer over the coals if they say something that they don't believe.
In the end Fulmer will hire a good fit who will run the offense.
Posted by waterskier3 on December 30, 2007 at 6:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
leadership of our great university at its best..... piss poor planning means piss poor performance......... coach cut knew he was going to leave asap if given the oppt but fulmer kept eating doughnuts... and didn't plan very well for this day.... akins is your oc by default... doesn't that make the vol nation feel good.....
Posted by GerryOP on December 30, 2007 at 6:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
pdhuff: Would you please stop bringing up this stupid game on Tuesday? That game is a distraction! GOTP already has a full plate shufflin' and jivvin' his way through the staff hiring minefield! Your continuous mentioning something about a silly football game Tuesday mornin' is befuddlin' his mind. Let it go dude, let it go.
IMO, if GOTP were to offer Taylor the OC job, that would be the ultimate Teflon move. GOTP already dis'ed Taylor, got dumped as a suitor by at least two major candidates, offers Troop and comes back to the fans explaining how well his blundering maneuvering turned out.
If it comes down like this, GOTP for President! Compared to GOTP, all them other folks are rookies when it comes to spreading the BS!
For the record, I think the idea of Trooper getting the job is a figment of some KNS writer's alcohol enhanced imagination. NFW!
Posted by jsm67vol on December 30, 2007 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Chrisoda and Sidwalkvol are right. Stirring the pot is exactly what they do. Trooper would reconsider if he became a candidate. Well, DUH who wouldn't want the OC at UT over the co-OC at OSU. Trooper wants to be considered, but Fulmer will really take a pounding by everyone if he hires someone with no playcalling experience, when things don't go perfectly.
Posted by 87UTVOL on December 30, 2007 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Troop talked to Fulmer early. Fulmer apparently wouldn't commit, but I've never heard 'never'. Troop wanted to take the bird in the hand at OSU. Fulmer (rightly!) wanted to talk to more folks than Trooper. He has. Maybe Troop could be a 'co' offensive coordinator, along with a true quarterbacks coach (like the Michigan or 49'ers coaches). I like Trooper. I hope Phil can work a way for him to stay.
Cutcliffe might not be telling the media that Luke and Roper and gone, but you can bet he's told Fulmer (if it's true...and it likely is). So, Phil knows he has 3-4 slots to fill. Having Trooper stay through the bowl game might end up being a blessing as Phil tries to assemble almost the whole offensive side of the staff.
Kippy may have been playing UT to get the OC job with the Lions. Maybe he wanted to have complete control of the offense, including hiring his position coaches. Who knows what all has gone on. I'm sure no one who posts on this board really knows. It's all guessin' and gripin'.
Phil is right to talk to a lot of people and explore options. The decisions are too important. GO VOLS!
Posted by texan on December 30, 2007 at 7 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If there really is a 'deep throat' inside the AD he is obviously been doing something else with his 'talent'. And the KNS has been the recipient.
Posted by weisgarber2003 on December 30, 2007 at 7:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Fulmer is desperate! Cannot keep a lot of players out of trouble, cannot get them to go to class, cannot get an OC, cannot win the big one, cannot win many of the little ones, cannot get a BCS bowl, cannot get a top ten finish, cannot win most minor bowls. That little black cloud over his head this decade isn't going anywhere.
Posted by TNPilgrim on December 30, 2007 at 7:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This is embarassing - Fulmer can't come up with even ONE decent candidate from outside the program. May as well hire Trooper and be done with it, before he gets away and we're stuck with Adkins.
Posted by weisgarber2003 on December 30, 2007 at 7:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by TommyJack on December 30, 2007 at 5:45 p.m.
Pound the rock and pass the pastry.
LOL!
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 7:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Come on Phil offer the job to Taylor and lets see where it goes???
Posted by jsm67vol on December 30, 2007 at 7:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
there may be many things Fulmer doesn't do well. Getting these guys to get their a$$$ out of bed and into class is not one he should even have to think about
Posted by why36knot on December 30, 2007 at 7:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
He he he he he he he !!!! I love it when Hooker and company have to back off of their "sources inside the football program" garbage. Now he is doing it again with the Trooper Taylor "might return" story.
Just be patient fans. There will be an offensive coordinator on the payroll before long.
We have no say so in the matter anyway. So why make fools of ourselves like the KNS writers do?
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 7:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree why36not. I just think the faster it is done the better. The Taylor thing is easy for me. Offer he says no then move on. I would offer him before I went elsewhere. For what ever reason he wasn't offered at first so lets do it then see where we are. That is if Phil wants him. At this point it is looking like it may not be who Phil wants but who will come here.
Posted by pdhuff on December 30, 2007 at 7:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
GerryOP - what game are you talking about? I've forgotten, isn't the season over? Coaches are coming, coaches are going, even R Sanders is getting interviews. I haven't heard Phil mention any game. Is something slipping up on us? Surely not! Sorry, can't help you. Snowing in Wisconsin.
Got to get TJ,s glazed out of the oven. Already dropped off TDTN 2 dozen creme filled with chocolate topping. Got to stay busy.....Doldrums.
Posted by jimbo37918 on December 30, 2007 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i think troop is the man for the job and he is "ALL VOL GO BIG ORANGE BEAT THEM BADGERS"
Posted by vol4jesus on December 30, 2007 at 7:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Remember boys we gotta sell papers and stimulate readership...ya got it? Speculate all ewe want and they will slop it up out there....So journalistically it is poor and reckless, who cares type away boys and watch the faithful lap it up. Drink thr KNS koolaid children. Do you think Trooper would really come back? He wasn't snubbed. The process was going too slow for him with an offer or two on the table. He obviously wasn't Coach Fulmers first choice either. So I think, wrong as I may be, that he stays an OSU Cowboy. If I'm wrong the explanation by Coach Fulmer will be interesting for sure. Could say was never ruled out, just had to allow time for process to work. Personally I wouldn't mind him back wit a QB coach. Guy from Fresno coached a good one in Pinegar there.That would allow Trooper input in an area that he hasn't worked in to gain valuable experience to be in an OC position. That would allow Coach Fulmer some comfort zone in decision making realm. Oh well, is it all just pie in the sky?
Posted by Ironcity on December 30, 2007 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Guys all of these coaches still have games to play. Would most of you want UT to take a OC from a program that couldn't make a bowl game? No. Would you guys want us to take a coach that quits on his players on the spot? No. So quit whining and stop trying to use the coaching decision process as a means to support your positions that Fulmer should go.
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with jimbo37918. Taylor is the man. Give him the chance if we don't others are in line wanting to. That should be a clue....
Posted by brink637 on December 30, 2007 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
My New Year's wish: Keep Trooper Taylor.
Posted by GerryOP on December 30, 2007 at 7:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
That's more like it, pdhuff! If you don't stop distractin' GOTP with noise about some pesky game on Tuesday, we're gonna' pull your "True Fan" card!
I get the feeling that this coach hirin' escapade is akin to a game of musical chairs -- except no one is rushin' to get a seat when the music stops. Gee, 100 calls and no real candidates.
Posted by nicksjuzunk on December 30, 2007 at 7:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Once again... speculation by KNS. "It is thought" that he couldn't hire his own staff.
Come on guys. Just like it was thought that Kippy was about to become OC. Truth be told, He took NFL OC in a familiar environment over OC in college where he would have to pack his stuff and move. The man is 57. He probably doesn't want to have to chase kids all over the country and go back to that 24/7 lifestyle. He also probably reads the posts here and that would drive any sane individual away!
I had a thought about Trooper still staying but I didn't think it would happen. Now... it may. Even if CPF give him the apparently attractive "co-coordinator" position, he may spurn OK state.
Posted by texan on December 30, 2007 at 7:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TROOP IS NOT COMING BACK! yet. Couple of more misfires by CFP and he gets the leverage he needs. But he still is not the answer. CPF has no choice now than to hire outside the family. Too much publicity has found its way into this thing. He has one year to prove he's still capable if he hires inside. Maybe two if he hires outside. Even he has to go with the odds.
Posted by jevolball7 on December 30, 2007 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't eat sweets at all. But,I'll take a dozen glazed! Before Foolmer eats the "pie in the sky"
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Who can we get from outside???? NFL I don't think so unless they are a position coach or got fired. Do we bring in a coach from a lower level school? If we don't hire from within where do we go?? I think Shula is still not working. He was the Bama coach before the Sab Showed up in Bama!!!!!
Posted by martinvolfan on December 30, 2007 at 8:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
How bout hiring Bruce Pearl for OC. Go Vols basketball!
Posted by KingsportVol on December 30, 2007 at 8:03 p.m.
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Posted by utwick on December 30, 2007 at 8:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If offered the OC job at Detroit, Kippy would take it and any other offers wouldn't matter. End of game. If Fulmer chooses Adkins, it would be a major blunder. Does Adkins have play-calling experience? Not that I know of. Better off to have kept Trooper, at least make him co-OC and retain his fire and recruiting ability...but stupid is as stupid does. Some of these interviews could be for "lesser" positions than OC. Gignetti has a nice resume' and would be interesting. Since Detroit lost today, maybe more about Kippy's future will be revealed in the next day or so.
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think the deal is we need not only a good play caller but we need somebody to sale the program to the kids and the parents. We need a guy to go into a home and win over the Mom!!!
Posted by texan on December 30, 2007 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I can't see how the Lions' management could actually believe that by simply replacing their OC will help them. Maybe KB has been given the authority to replace the whole O staff. Why else would he stay on a dying team except for the money... OMG that's it isn't it! Mikey are you reading?
Posted by pdhuff on December 30, 2007 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
GerryOP - you must simply stay the course. Blindly believe. Do not mention nine years of no rings. You will be dissed by a Holy man if you mention do-nuts. You cannot have any fun. Take yourself seriously at all times and keep fiddling as Nero did. Am I clear? Or do you want to stand in the corner as TJ and Tdtn have had to? What's it gonna be, boy??? (stole that one from favorite CD -Bat Out of Hell, Meatloaf/Paradise by the Dashboard Lights) I digress.
Posted by vol52 on December 30, 2007 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Cut brought his people to UT. Fulmer sounds very insecure and that is not a good thing. I say if Kippy does not come then TT is my next choice of all the people mentioned. Cignetti has not done great his last couple of positions. Can a big 10 coach recruit in the south. Things are not good. Fulmer farted around and look where we are now.
Posted by jobrando on December 30, 2007 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Reading this one could believe Fulmer is the man and not Hamilton.
Posted by GerryOP on December 30, 2007 at 8:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
OK pdhuff, I have been properly admonished. I'll get back to the job I have been assigned -- arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic called Tennessee Football. In my spare time, I will make sure the orchestra keeps playing while the good ship UT Football slowly sinks into the morass of mediocrity. All is well, all is well.
Posted by weisgarber2003 on December 30, 2007 at 8:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"but we need somebody to sale the program to the kids and the parents. We need a guy to go into a home and win over the Mom!!!"
That supposedly was one of Fulmer's strengths.
Posted by GerryOP on December 30, 2007 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Winning over Moms" is TDTN's and TJ's job!
Posted by pdhuff on December 30, 2007 at 8:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Gerryop-Showing some promise, now. Next lesson soon. Stay the course. Nothing is ever wrong or out of kilter. Gave you a B- on that test.
Posted by jhmclain on December 30, 2007 at 8:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As mentioned by dgb63 above does anyone know anything about Shula and what is he doing?
Posted by GerryOP on December 30, 2007 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yas massa, I'll keep an eyeball on all them deck chairs! That iceberg dead ahead is just a figment of my imagination! GOTP will slide us right by it -- we'll never feel the pain!
Posted by Pullingguard on December 30, 2007 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Fulmers thinking... Let the O/C bring in his staff and when he leaves the staff tags along.. Same thing when Cutcliff brought in his boys.. They are going to Duke with him...And, you can't blame them for he is their mentor and ladder... Just hope Phil Fulmer remembers that the offenses in college ball are changing... Will be interesting to see how this kicks out...
Posted by eduardo on December 30, 2007 at 8:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What a train wreck! This guy is so wishy washy it aint even funny! Phat Phil do the right thing and step down after the bowl game. We don't need this and neither do you!
Posted by VolsFan1981 on December 30, 2007 at 9:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I say, take a chance on Trooper. He seems to be a stickler for details, like Cutcliffe, and he's a good position coach. In addition, there'd still be one familar face on the offensive staff for the current players and the new recruits.
Posted by jhmclain on December 30, 2007 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Did some looking on the internet and found where Mike Shula is the QB coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Posted by heathut15 on December 30, 2007 at 9:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i think taylor is the man they should have gave it to him from the get go and let him turn it down if he didnt want it it cant be no worse than if someone else is doing it taylor is the right man for the job GO VOLS
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 9:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok I'm starting the push for Shula!!!! Been a head coach, Been in the NFL, Good stable person. From the South what else do we need?????!!!!!!
Posted by KingsportVol on December 30, 2007 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
That would go over great.Hire an ex Bama reject.F word that.Keep his ass in the sunshine state and hope Fat Back has enough damn brains to offer it to Troop.We already know this guy and the players love him.
Posted by BleedsOrangeinMO on December 30, 2007 at 9:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Here's my two cents worth. I've been a Vol Fan since before many of you were born. I now live in MO and I have painted an orange and white checkerboard border along one wall of my office in my new house.That cost me a couple of nights on the sofa! That was a small price to pay for a true VolFan. Don't get me wrong I'm not in love with Phil but I respect the man for what he has done. Phil is a manager; the only two skills he needs is the ability to recuit and the ability to hire good assistant managers. Phil does sometimes let his heart (feeling for family) get in the way of his thought process. How many recuits have we gotten over the years because of the stable environment at UT and the coaches? Many of you are in too much of a hurry. There are 32 bowl games; that's 64 teams that have not finished their seasons and most of the NFL teams are just today completing their last game. So they are a lot decisions that are going to be made in the next few days by many teams; college and pro. Some of you are concerned that Phil has only interviewed 2 or 3 people. Do you have a "bug" in Phil's pocket? None of us know how many people have been interviewed or how many people Phil has contacted just to see if they are interested. When Phil gets his selections down to the "Final Few" he'll probably be a little more forth coming. If he let some of the names out of the bag . . well someone would find something "wrong" with every one of them. There are a lot of reasons to leave a job and money is not the only reason to move!!! Maybe Kippy was playing UT to get a better offer from the Lions; good for him. Maybe he is using the rumor of a better offer from the Lions to get what he wants at UT!!! UT is still a school that others are measured by. I agree we MUST get better. My heart can't take many more of these giveaway games and last second comebacks (although I'm glad we won). UT Alumni have deep pockets but I don't want to pay big bucks for someone who is just chasing the almighty dollar.I truly believe that Phil knows this is his "last chance" and he had better make the right choice (and we better come out winning next year)so please allow him some time to do it. As I said the games are just now ending and everyone is now in a better position to know what thier future might be. I've read lots of names mentioned for the open positons at UT but none of you mentioned the guy from Michigan. Don't forget there are three bowl games in the state of Fla and some other folks from 4 or 5 of those other teams could just drop in on Phil before or after the game. I know that some of you will not agree with me but then some of you would find something wrong with a nude Cindy Crawford passing out thousand dollor bills and KK donouts on Cumberland Ave. I just thought of someone who is unemployed and is in the Tampa area: Vinny Testedavatie (I know misspelled it) but he is retiring from Pro Ball. He could be QB coach.
Posted by texan on December 30, 2007 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dgb63, The more you cried about this the more I became interested in looking into his stats as an OC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Shula
What is the big deal?
Posted by GerryOP on December 30, 2007 at 9:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dgb62, we need someone who will say "YES" to whatever GOTP says. Have you ever seen Shula a back down to anyone?
BTW, I like the Shulas. Don't know one and never met one, but, they all seem to know something about football and they all seem to stand by their principals. Personal traits that conflict with the GOTP modus operandi.
Posted by KingsportVol on December 30, 2007 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I vote for naked Cindy Crawford new OC.
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 9:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Good thinking bleeds but then again KingsportVol wont like him he went to the U. People want someone out of the family then slam somebody from Bama or even the U. Didn't the NFL hire that Bama Reject???
Posted by invisiblekid on December 30, 2007 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't believe Fulmer is interested in giving Taylor on the job training or he would have offered, or at least formally interviewed, him before now. Cignetti is an interesting development IMO, although I doubt he will get the job. I think judging him on his work at UNC and this year with the 49ers is a little tough. First off, UNC is, well, UNC and, with the Alex Smith injury, the jury is still out. His teams put up some impressive numbers while at Fresno State and he is halfway to matching Cutcliffe in #1 draft choices with David Carr. Loeffler is out of left field as far as the names thrown around to this point. Not much experience and Michigan hasn't exactly impressed me while he has been there. I guess if Fulmer is looking to go the route of 240lb QB's that move at the speed of a fast-paced glacier, then Loeffler is his guy.
Posted by KingsportVol on December 30, 2007 at 9:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mike Shula's Record at Alabama
Year W L Bowl Result
2003 4 9 None
2004 6 6 Music City: L 20-16 vs. Minnesota
2005 10 2 Cotton: W 13-10 vs. Texas Tech
2006 6 6 TBA
Totals 26 23 1-1
Enough said.
Posted by lempga on December 30, 2007 at 9:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Trooper---Trooper--Trooper-----
Posted by texan on December 30, 2007 at 9:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Cignetti?
If CPF would not give up the OC reins to KP there is no way he should give it up to a guy like this. David Carr...Please. Not even close.
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 9:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Kingsport we aint looking for a head coach yet. He is a QB coach in the NFL. Ok I might not really hire him but he has at least the resume of the rest of the people being talked about. If you remember where Bama was when he got there. He is a good person with a mind for the O side of the ball. If not Trooper who do you like?
Posted by chrisw2967 on December 30, 2007 at 9:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
like I have said before in posts, this is the start of the end for Fulmer.
Fulmer will not hire somebody that will wants 100% control, he wants somebody he can put on a leash. thats what the problem has been for the last 7 years. Like I say all Fulmer needs to do is stand on the sideline and at least look like he knows whats going on.
hire Trooper and be done with it.
A good OC is not going to come in here and let Fulmer dictate what he does or want to do and after Fulmer has ruined him then who else will want them.
Posted by reedt on December 30, 2007 at 9:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I give up. What is GOTP the acronym for?
Posted by invisiblekid on December 30, 2007 at 9:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
My suggestion at this point is to throw a ton of money at Sarkisian from USC or Brohm from Louisville and see what happens. Of course Cindy Crawford or Jessica Alba works too.
Posted by texan on December 30, 2007 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am going to reconsider. Mike Shula: national exposure, Alabama recruiting, a national figure to blame. This is what Mikey and Phil need. Bama pulled it off didn't they?
Posted by invisiblekid on December 30, 2007 at 9:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Houtxvol, agree that there is no comparison between Carr and the Mannings. Of course, only Tom Brady is comparable to #16 at this point. I also stated I didn't think Cignetti would get the job(nor do I think he is the best available option)but I do think it shows that the search has actually gone national this time around.
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 9:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Now wait Shuls is in the NFL Playoff's. I know we don't want a guy that is doing a good job on an NFL team in the Playoff's. Now back to a guy on the 49er's!!!
Posted by texan on December 30, 2007 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
GOTP must have been spray painted on the double wide when he repossessed it. Uh..had it repossessed.
Posted by KingsportVol on December 30, 2007 at 9:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dgb63 I never said he was a bad person.I don't think he would be accepted here because he went to Bama.Not saying he is a bad choice QB coach.He would never leave the NFL for UT anyway.
I have wanted Trooper from day 1.He brings alot to the table with 0 experience.Great recruiter.
Posted by texan on December 30, 2007 at 9:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
invisiblekid', #18 LOL. I agree it has to be national now.
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh I agree with Trooper he is my choice too but if that were Fulmer's choice we wouldn't be talking about this. It would have been done as soon as Cutcliff said he was going to Duke. If he gets the job now he knows he wasn't the first choice. I wouldn't blame him if he if were offered he said NO!!! As for Shula I was just trying to think of a person from the south with a goos mind for the O side of the ball that would not need to be trained on the job. People want somene from the outside. I don't think Cutcliff went to UT. Where did he go to college? I think we want to win I don't care if he is from Bama, Miami, or even Florida. Ok well maybe not Florida!!!
Posted by skyhawk836 on December 30, 2007 at 9:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
evening, guys. Has Shula been mentioned or is this all board stuff?
Posted by texan on December 30, 2007 at 10:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Board stuff, fortunate or not. Your choice.
Posted by KingsportVol on December 30, 2007 at 10:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Just board stuff.Yeah Cut went to Bama dgb63.
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 10:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I just made it up.. I was throwing names out. I was reading what everybody else was saying about the possible choices for Fulmer and he came to my mind.
Posted by eefor10c on December 30, 2007 at 10:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The Fulmer haters and whiners, who KNOW NOTHING, are always talking about those who support Tennessee drinking their orange koolaid. Now they are getting their pablum from Tee Hee Hee Hooker and the KNS who is more interested in undermining Fulmer, as are the whiners and haters. Obviously the Adams gang doesn't have a clue--look how badly they've missed on their "predictions".
Posted by mojojojo on December 30, 2007 at 10:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Zeke asks, "What ever happend to Daryle Dickey? And, support your local dry cleaner".
Posted by BleedsOrangeinMO on December 30, 2007 at 10:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I have two names for you both are in South Fla or we be soon and both are unemployed: Cam Cameron and Vinny Testaverde
Posted by skyhawk836 on December 30, 2007 at 10:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 10:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I just made it up.. I was throwing names out. I was reading what everybody else was saying about the possible choices for Fulmer and he came to my mind.
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Good stuff
Posted by dfreeman on December 30, 2007 at 10:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
invisiblekid - I'll go with Alba only on looks alone, if either chest bumps the players I fear there isn't enough padding to protect the players!! LOL
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 10:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Bleeds now you may be on to something with your two choices. At least you are thinking of names. Cameron as OC and Testaverde as QB's. That woudld be cool after the Sugar Bowl.. I think it could be a choice.
Posted by BleedsOrangeinMO on December 30, 2007 at 10:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Someone asked about Daryl Dickey. Just looked him up He is at FSU as the QB coach.
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 10:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Do you like Dickey as a choice?
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 10:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I was also thinking about Jeff Bower that was at Southern Miss for years but I don't know which side of the ball he comes from.
Posted by mojojojo on December 30, 2007 at 10:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Zeke says, "Good night to all. Support your local dry cleaner".
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 10:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Good night Zeke. Get slep a lot of games on the next 2 days.
Posted by GerryOP on December 30, 2007 at 10:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks for asking! GOTP? Good Ol' Teflon Phil! No failure of the UT football program sticks to GOTP.
Posted by dgb63 on December 30, 2007 at 10:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Good night all to bed.. Resting up for the next 2 days.. GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by GreerVol22 on December 30, 2007 at 11:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
All you Trooper lovers should realize that he has about as much OC capacity as Cutt does in his little finger. He's not the answer. Yes we all love the chest bumps, rally hat, and towel waving, but he's a 6 win coach at best. Honestly, it wouldn't be fair to Trooper...its a set up for failure.
Posted by GerryOP on December 30, 2007 at 11:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Greer, we also appreciate his enthusiam and love for everything UT and his success at every job he has been given. So ... rather than simply saying goodbye, adios, good luck, why not keep him in K'town and give him a bigger challenge?
Posted by rccheek on December 30, 2007 at 11:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
RUN Forrest RUN!!
Posted by reedt on December 30, 2007 at 11:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Re: "Thanks for asking! GOTP? Good Ol' Teflon Phil! No failure of the UT football program sticks to GOTP."
Thanks GerryOP. I originally thought it might have been "Get Off The Pot" (GOTP)
Posted by GerryOP on December 30, 2007 at 11:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well, reedt, for some of the things going on that works too!
Posted by lempga on December 30, 2007 at 11:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If Trooper loved the Vols, why did he take those two interviews? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Posted by RocketVol on December 31, 2007 at 12:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What is with the Trooper love affair. Name one stat that makes him a leading candidate for OC in the toughest division of college football. Running and chest-butting doesn't count. Recruiting has nothing to do with OC. What is it?
Posted by volman5 on December 31, 2007 at 12:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am not sure ANY of the names mentioned in this article are exciting. Of course I would love to see Troop stay..but really how much chest bumping and such can you do from the booth? Plus we aren't Baylor or OSU...this is the University of Tennessee, not a school to just learn on the job with (ask Sanders). And the Michigan guy? Really, what has he done? Henne was a lot like Ainge...great freshman season but then never improved too much. And the 49ers?? Not exactly known for the offense (except it was decent with ole Norv).
I like the idea of Shula (not my favorite but it is an improvment over some of these other guys). If I am not mistaken didn't Dickey just get some div 2 head job a couple weeks ago? I think we need to do like Louisville did for their defense (got the coordinator from Michigan and Roof from Duke) for our offense. Cam Cameron would be a terrific hire if Parcells fires him. but more realistically...what side of the ball is Bower from USM known for? Or Tommy West (his days at Memphis could be number...UT guy) and where is Walt Harris? He fell on his face at Stanford...but had some great teams at Pitt (he never should have left).
All we can do is speculate..but I am interested in what you all think of those names...who would you all have on your "short list"?
Fact of the matter is....it is not up to us, this is Phil's program and he deserves to have full control and make all the calls. We can all give our two cents and talk a big game...but when it comes down to it he can coach a lot better than we can. I trust his judgment in this...he will do what is best for UT.
GO VOLS!!!!
Posted by newtonrail on December 31, 2007 at 12:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
D. Dickey, UT Class of '86 just took a head coaching job at small school in Ga. Fla. State's is a different D. Dickey.
Posted by weisgarber2003 on December 31, 2007 at 12:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"D. Dickey, UT Class of '86 just took a head coaching job at small school in Ga. Fla. State's is a different D. Dickey."
It might have been at West Georgia.
Posted by DenmarkVol_aka_Mbumburu on December 31, 2007 at 12:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I change my prediction. It's now badgers by at least 13.
Posted by RocketVol on December 31, 2007 at 12:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I can't believe that Tennessee can't get a top-notch OC with a snap of the fingers. This search is already in the mud looking for worms. I think the statement on Brown's quick exit is probably true - if you are not a Fulmer yes-man, and you want control of the offense, then you're out. All it took was one day with Fulmer to convince Spence to not budge - awful quick decision if you ask me - unless the visit had him literally running back to Clemson. I bet Cutcliffe, behind the scenes, has had all the over-riding he can take.
Posted by TommyJack on December 31, 2007 at 12:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Newton: I think the Dickey at FSU WAS the same D. Dickey...they canned him over a year ago. fyi
Posted by FWBVol on December 31, 2007 at 12:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Daryl Dickey did take the job at West Georgia. This past season he was out of football after being a part of the Bobby Bowden overhaul of the FSU offensive staff.
Dickey has done some adequate work and I think he'll do well at West Georgia. He might even be a good fit at UT, but I'm not so sure. Chris Rix was one messed up quarterback for the Seminoles.
If you compare the physical tools of Rix and Casey Clausen, both of whom were California high school golden boys at the same time, Rix is head and shoulders the better of the two. But if you look at what Rix accomplished at FSU and compare it to what Clausen did Casey had a much better career. Dickey coached Rix. Randy Sanders coach Clausen. Does that make Sanders a better coach? No, but Rix isn't a ringing endorsement for Dickey if he were a candidate for the job.
Posted by utvols1 on December 31, 2007 at 1:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Phil is a bloody control freak. He learned this when he was our OC. I didn't love him then too much in that role either. The reason his phone isn't ringing off the hook is he can't let go. I just pray for this to all come to an end in a yr. It will take this program 2-3 yrs to fix after he's gone.
Wisc can't wait to play this game. We are going to just show up and get our ass kicked.
Posted by GerryOP on December 31, 2007 at 1:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
lempga, if the Vols loved Trooper, why did the Vols give Baylor and Ok St permission to interview him?
Posted by cwisenhower on December 31, 2007 at 3:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I heard a lil rumor that if Trooper is gone, Arian will be gone too. Hardesty will really have to step it up then...
Posted by 87UTVOL on December 31, 2007 at 5:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"if the Vols loved Trooper, why did the Vols give Baylor and Ok St permission to interview him?"
Uhh, do you forbid any other school from talking to your coaches? Do you tell your assistants 'we won't allow you to ever interview for another job"? Do you automatically promote and give a raise to any assistant who interviews? If so, where's Steve Caldwell's raise? Should we have forbid Ark. from talking to him? If you have good people, some will come looking. It's as simple as that.
UT's a great place (see Steve Caldwell). Troop and his family like it here, but sometimes you need to move. Sometimes you get to move up where you are. It's no different than the business world. If Troop is better served by moving, I wish him well. If we can keep him here, that's great.
All these comments are not being able to get it done 'in the snap of a finger' or Phil being 'a control freak' are ridiculous. Phil is the company president. He does the hiring and firing. College bowls and the NFL are ongoing. It takes more time to hire an OC + 2-3 assistants that it does one head coach. These same commenters would bellyache that Phil didn't take his time getting the best coach after the first loss with a new OC.
As for recruiting, Troop is definitely an asset. But, Tennessee managed to sign some of the best prospects long before Troop landed here. The one constant? Phil Fulmer. I've heard directly from other coaches and from national press who cover college football. Phil's one of the very best in closing the deal for recruits.
You all also forget that Fulmer is the one who found and hired Trooper. Tropper will tell you the main reason he came to Tenn. is Phil Fulmer and he's also one of the main reasons he didn't go to Texas last year. I've heard Trooper speak 4-5 times. Nothing but praise and admiration for Fulmer.
GO VOLS!
Posted by 87UTVOL on December 31, 2007 at 5:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"I heard a lil rumor that if Trooper is gone, Arian will be gone too."
Just where is he going? Best case right now the 3rd round of the NFL.
Don't get me wrong, Foster's a good back, but jumping to the NFL if Trooper left (who's not even his position coach) is ridiculous. Even if it's true, 18-22 year old players who have likely been exposed to only a handful of coaches don't decide who gets promoted, hired or fired.
Posted by oldorange on December 31, 2007 at 5:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What a difference a day makes
Posted by bloodrunsorange on December 31, 2007 at 5:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Everyone knows the HC always puts his best recruiter on the big boys (5 stars) and the athletes at the position they coach. So where are all the DT’s and DE’s with 4.6 speed that bench over 400 lbs that are head hunters? So where are all the sub 4.4 speedsters at wide outs that are 6'5" or better that can catch? Remember Wide Receiver U? Our boys can’t catch cold when it comes to real speed. In fact where are all the running backs at sub 4.4 speed that know how to be part of a team? Our boys can't catch cold when it comes to real speed. In fact where are all the Al Wilson LB’s? I’m glad we have 1, but 5 would be better. If Taylor is that GREAT (and he is a good chest bumper) and we can’t live without him, where are all the “5 stars” he personally has brought in this year and where is all the speed he has brought in the last few years? I hated to see Garner go, but there is always someone else. Things will happen in the next few days very quickly after the bowl games. Let’s just beat Wisconsin so the next 8 months aren’t so bad. The withdrawal is hard enough, but losing and having to deal withdrawal for 8 months is terrible. By the way, I liked the “ORANGE” pants! The more “ORANGE” the better! “Go Vols!”
Posted by yeavols on December 31, 2007 at 6:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Cignetti...Cignetti...we need new blood...GET out of the GOOD OLE BOYS CLUB...
Posted by GreerVol22 on December 31, 2007 at 7:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sorry Gerry, but I'm with Rocket on this. The running game improved, but it really had no where else to go but up. I just think his learning curve would be best determined at a smaller program before elevating him to a top 20 program. If he stays, next year he will be aweful and could take a couple more seasons playing catch up with a strong possibility of being fired. We can't afford that in the SEC.
Posted by tngeoff on December 31, 2007 at 8:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
TouchdownTN,
Who? Oh yeah. Wisconsin. I know one thing. THEY are ready. They're salivating watching all the distractions at Tennessee. Happy New Year all y'all.
Posted by slovog on December 31, 2007 at 8:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ah, yes. The fool posters have it all figured out. And it's all based upon the words of a guy who is, at best, this paper's 4th most talented writer. You vacuous idiots.
Oh yeah, the "FOOLmore" and "KrispyKreme" usage is waning a bit. You cretins better get back to your sticky keyboards.
Keep on being led around by your witlessness, you schlemiels.
Posted by tngeoff on December 31, 2007 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
slovog,
It seems as though there are two distinct "fool poster" groups if that is indeed the proper characterization. The "fool posters" who no matter what robotically praise and defend everything Fulmer. The other group, as you proclaim must be the "fool posters" who express an opposing view. One is right according to you and one is wrong. It would be hard for me to imagine that anyone with any sense at all could not recognize that there are severe problems with Tennessee football right now and that those problems are a clear and obvious danger to performance potential in the game against a Wisconisn team that wants to pound us into the ground like railroad spikes.
Posted by movol77 on December 31, 2007 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The insanity posts are flying with this article!
Also...
"Hey, did you hear that our coach is a stay-the-course, fool, krispy kreme eatin', control freak?"
Lame.
Posted by movol77 on December 31, 2007 at 8:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
tngeoff, you are fickle and wrong.
Posted by movol77 on December 31, 2007 at 8:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Great post slovog!!!
Posted by GerryOP on December 31, 2007 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sounds like slovog woke up cranky this morning!
Posted by tngeoff on December 31, 2007 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
slovog,
We're all fickle to one degree or another and freely admit that. But, so that I understand, what part was wrong? Are there no problems with Tennessee football and everything is okay? So much so that we should simply "Stay the course?"
Posted by philfan on December 31, 2007 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
i Am THE sOuRce. i havE contaCts iN aND ouTside CollEGe fOOtbaLl aNd THe Nfl. DouG MarRone iS tHe nEXt Oc fOr TennEssEe. Do NOt trY tO cONtact me bECauSe i CAnnOt Be coNTactEd. I wIll ContAct You if i sEE fit. i havE AssumEd the IdenTItY of OnE oF YouR grOuP. AN ANNounCeMeNt wiLL bE MadE wItHin THe NeXt fIve Days. i AM THE SourCe. I REPeAt, i Am tHE souRce.
Posted by TommyJack on December 31, 2007 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Slofog: Wow. Happy New Year to you too, pal.
Posted by vol4good on December 31, 2007 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Reading these posts makes me dizzy! First I am excited then I am sad then laughing then pissed then excited again. Feels like my first sexual interlude.
Posted by vol52 on December 31, 2007 at 8:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The current problem is that if Kippy was the man Phil should have gotten him and its a done deal. But we did not do that. We will have recruits coming soon and we are down 1 set of offense coaches. An already poor class of recruits will probably not improve. Auburn had problems with their offense and got a new OC. Phil knew that Cut wanted a HC position. He should have had a list in his pocket and taken action for the stability of the program.
Posted by NatiVol on December 31, 2007 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm just glad they gave names and someone other that the OC at Clemson has interviewed. I was getting worried that Phil wanted the staff in place by 1-8-08 according to another story on here and, well we hadn't talked to anyone.
Posted by PumpUptheVOLume on December 31, 2007 at 8:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
lempga... The interviews were taken because Troop hasn't been shy about expressing his career goal of being a head coach. You have to take one step at a time to achieve your goals. Bottom line... Fulmer hasn't offered Troop and if he did, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. Troop didn't consider any interviews until Cut was gone and the possibility of being an OC was out there. Would you pass up an interview for an opportunity to achieve your career goals? If Fulmer loved the Vols as much.... Troop would have been a candidate from the beginning.... He keeps the energy alive for this program.....
Has anyone read anything about Mark Richt lately?
A big part of Georgia's success this year is because Richt has kept his players energized.
Posted by NatiVol on December 31, 2007 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Really why would someone leave being an OC in the NFL to come be the OC in college football? The only slight reason is that they want to be a head coach in NCAA only, have no desire to coach in the NFL. I just can't see it, unless Doug Marrone is getting fired.
Posted by pdhuff on December 31, 2007 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
TommyJack- you are in danger of having your orange lemming sweater taken away. And I see no way, sir, that you will ever attain the coveted crocheted 2 x 3 likeness of Phil for the back.
And your name is not listed for the annual run across the ice to the cliff's edge with the herd. It is sad to see the little orange blinders bobbing in the sea and knowing yours will not attain that honor. Think how far back you have slipped. Line up, TJ, get in line. All is well. Happy New Year.
Posted by TommyJack on December 31, 2007 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)
PumpUP: A bigger part of Georgia's success is quality recruiting, year after year after year.
Posted by stevefrommemphis on December 31, 2007 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think the younger fans who want Taylor must like him because he wears his cap backwards. He also waves a towel around over his head well. He may be a great coach, but I have not heard any reasons why above and beyond the two I just mentioned.
Posted by philfan on December 31, 2007 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
stevefrommemphis,
You are so correct. It takes more than enthusiasm to win games consistently. I have said it before and will say it again. The reason so many people hate Fulmer is that he lacks the glitzy, Hollywood, rock star good looks of Richt, Saban, and Meyer. I could care less about a person's physical appearance or his style of wearing a cap, or his wild man antics at a game. Let Fulmer take his time and he will make the right hire. He should lose weight though. It is a health problem and is not a good example for student athletes, who are expected to be in superb physical condition. Maybe he should cut down on the donuts and work out more.
Posted by vol52 on December 31, 2007 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
TommyJack, I believe what PumpUptheVOLume comment was in reference to richt doing a belly flip in the pool at NO. It was a suprise pool party for the players. The ajc had a picture of richt doing the belly flip. Security would never let Phil do that for fear of a tidal wave!
Posted by Rok_Etop on December 31, 2007 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Troop took a Co OC position at Okie State, so why would he not take a Co OC position at UT?? Retain the guy, give him the title and the raise, and hire another Co OC to add to your staff a double headed monster!! Anything to strengthen your staff!! Hell get a Co Towel Boy for all I care, just win 11 or 12 games and give us a shot at the NC every 1 to 3 years!! PF is the HC and he should have control over his staff or there is trouble brewing. Trump calls his shots, Gates call his, Meyer, Saban, etc...... Fulmer is doing just fine!! Pick your man Phil and lets keep rolling!!
Troop, pull the reverse Saban baby. Say your leaving and really stay!! We love you man!!
Go Vols!
Posted by dgb63 on December 31, 2007 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I really don't see Taylor as the guy. He isn't Fulmer's 1st choice if he were he would have been brought out as soon as Cutcliff said he was going to Duke. Ok I'm still leading the push for Shula!!! He was a head coach he is in the NFL has been a few times. He got Bama out of a big mess. He is the QB coach at Jacksonville and going into the Playoff's. Bama let him go for Sab. A good hard working honest guy that knows the south and can get players form Bama area. Out of all the NFL people on the list he is my Fav.
Posted by TommyJack on December 31, 2007 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
vol52: Yeah, I didn't know that. The thought of CPF doing that is not a mental picture I want to paint!
PD: i can't get in line. My work is not done. The faithful must be made to see the light.
Mediocrity is upon us and they can't see it. Help me oh Lord. A dozen devine raspberry filled please.
Wake up Amurca!
Posted by philfan on December 31, 2007 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Many of you are recommending a new OC who will have complete and total control of the offense. Someone even said that he should tell the head coach to kiss his b--t when he felt he knew more than the head coach. No coach, in any football program, would tolerate that. If I were a head coach, and the OC overruled me, his ass would be fired immediately. Filmer has fired coaches before for incompetence, and he should fire any coach who is insubordinate. We need a team player, not a hot head.
Posted by mattrob44 on December 31, 2007 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
People if this isn't sign that were not on the college football radar I dont what is. Coaches should be lining up to come to UT it's not happening. I dont want to go through a complete overhaul but if Fulmer is not going to allow a coach to hire his coaching staff and some of the loses over the years to teams we should never loose too; maybe its time to consider someone different. Signing off PSSST!!
Posted by scttmcdonald on December 31, 2007 at 9:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why–oh-why, would Fulmer even consider Cignetti?? What has he done? I think this guys name is “Mediocrity”
San Fran in ’07 ~ 5/11 (average losses of 14.5 points)
NC Record for 2006 ~ 3/9 (average losses of 18 points)
Fresno State record 02-05 ~ 36/18
N. O. Saints ’00 & 01 Record 17/15
Over the last 8 years where this guy has had some sort of hand in coaching offenses, their combined records are 61/53 mediocre at best, exactly what this program doesn’t need.
Posted by jdcdjc on December 31, 2007 at 9:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lets face it, the OC works for Fulmer, not the other way around. I do think Phil needs to get serious about Trooper. He's the only one that shows any fire on the whole staff.
Posted by grvol on December 31, 2007 at 9:58 a.m.
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Posted by 3rdtenn on December 31, 2007 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
After an extensive nation wide search-the results are in-we can't find a quality canidate for the job. Wonder why? The NFL guys being interviewed are losers looking for a job and have no loyalty to anything other than a check and apparently not very good at their jobs. Good grief.
Posted by dgb63 on December 31, 2007 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok if not Taylor and not Cignetti then who??? I think Taylor is the best for the job but I think Fulmer has made it clear by his action that he is not his choice. I don't know anything about Cignetti. That choice doesn't wow me. If I had my choices I would go after Shula or Cam Camron ( I know spelled wrong )
Posted by TommyJack on December 31, 2007 at 10:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Agree with grvol. No place for OJT. Maybe TT becomes a great coach, but OC is not for rookies who have never called a play. Enthusiasm is great, but it doesn't make for sound play-calling.
Posted by grvol on December 31, 2007 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Shula? AL's offense under that guy was almost worse than Sanders' UT offense. Yea that's just what the Vols need - more predictable, stagnant low scoring offense.
Posted by dgb63 on December 31, 2007 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Who you like TommyJack?
Posted by TommyJack on December 31, 2007 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
dgb63: I like Marrone.
Posted by dgb63 on December 31, 2007 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
U think he will leave the Saints to come here? I can live with him. I thought I saw somewhere that he wasn't going to take it? I like him better then the 49er's guy.
Posted by pdhuff on December 31, 2007 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
grvol 9:58 I think we'd love a jerk if he could coach and had some ideas from this century he could get by Phil. Check the charts, Badgers, here we come with our sideways circus.
Posted by todd on December 31, 2007 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Anybody but Trooper. Please!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by lquevedo on December 31, 2007 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Our one sided loses this year are more about motivation, than anything else...Trooper along will fire up the offense.
He deserves a shot……@ OC….
Besides, anybody who is any good will not be coming to a situation were Phil will be telling him what to do and who to have as O assistance…
GOVOLS!!!!!!! Kick some butts tomorrow…
Posted by dgb63 on December 31, 2007 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think Shula could work out here. The deal in Bama was he was the head coach with a team without much to work with. He took a team from Probation problems and made them something.I think as an OC he would do much more. For some reason he was good enough to go back to the NFL. I think he could do a better job then the guy from the 49er's. I think he could get us players from the entire south even Bama. He is the QB guy with jacksonville I'm sure he could help our QB's. It would be so good to see him in the box beating Bama!!!
Posted by rpoll1095 on December 31, 2007 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am not a big fan of "co" coaching for the same reason that I dislike the two quarterback system. BUT, like many of us, I would like to see Trooper stay and if Fulmer can work something out,then that is great. I also don't like turning over the hiring process to a new OC and just letting him overturn everything. Like all organizations, there is an internal chemistry and balance that you don't want to totally throw in the air. I would bet he was told he could make "some" hires, but not all. Not good enough? Well, then we know why Detroit looked better. But I bet he doesn't have that kind of control there either. I am confident that between Fulmer and Hamilton, we will find an excellent person....not time to panic at all!
Posted by gator4life on December 31, 2007 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If you guys get "naked Cindy Crawford" i'm giving up on my Gators and instantly becoming a Vol watcher :-)
Posted by dgb63 on December 31, 2007 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
My big problem with this thing is that we all knew that Cutcliff was looking for a head coaching job. I just don't understand why Fulmer and Cutcliff didn't get together 2 years ago and get ready for when this went down. They could have had Taylor getting ready to take over for the past 2 years. That is one reason why I just feel that Taylor is not who Fulmer wants. I don't understand why Fulmer wasn't ready for when Cutcliff left. He is the head coach his job is to manage this team like a CEO. He sould have already had somebody set to take over.
Posted by jobrando on December 31, 2007 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
SEC 2-0 is great and if win the 2 on the 31st and go 4-0 then law of averages are going to be bad for the 1st sec team playing on the 1st.
Posted by pdhuff on December 31, 2007 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Are the doldrums already here and we didn't notice? I've seen two Wisconsin yellow-cheese buses go down the road. What's up with that?
Thousand dollar bills are hard to get rid of. Had one once and finally sold it. Wasn't to Cindy Crawford though, she'd had that bad boy free.
Posted by mparker on December 31, 2007 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Go get Watson Brown;
Posted by mparker on December 31, 2007 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
women who should stay young forever:
Raquel Welch
Cindy Crawford
Possible additions:
N. Kinski
Elle Macpherson
Barbara Hershey
Adrienne Barbeau
Feel free to add, gotta bet back to owrk. sigh.
Posted by pmidude56 on December 31, 2007 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
TouchdownTD:
Time for that medication!
Posted by tngeoff on December 31, 2007 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Notre Dame has Touchdown Jesus and UGA has touchdown Soulja Boy:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ecksP6Sxbg...
Posted by mparker on December 31, 2007 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
tngeoff
UT has Smokey; there is a beagle in my subd that sounds just like smokey at the stadium. makes me homesick.
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