Posted by slovog on October 28, 2007 at 2:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry, loser/haters. Too bad UT won this week. Please tell us how miserable you are, in spite of the fact that this UT team, led by coach Fulmer, is sitting ahead of Urban and Steve.

LMAO!!

Posted by kdt0725 on October 28, 2007 at 3:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hate being negative, but this would have been by far the worst loss of the season. To blow a 21 pt lead and get lucky we got a false start. Ironic that a mistake saved our season. Maybe the most pitiful performance of the season in the second half.

Posted by slovog on October 28, 2007 at 3:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

But SC can't make mistakes. Spurrier is the best coach in the world.

But wait, if the 'cocks DID make mistakes, and all other coaches are held to the same standard as Tennessee's coach, what does that make Spurrier?

Does Spurrier hang out at Krispy Kreme, too? I bet he say's "gosh darn" when he thinks no one is listening.

Posted by jimmy71 on October 28, 2007 at 3:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is the worst defense I have ever seen. I don't understand it. Our recruiting is in the top 20. There has to be a scheme/coaching problem. Helppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp somebody, please!

Posted by killer65forevervol on October 28, 2007 at 6:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wake up call Kool-Aid drinkers!!!! Georgia has been the only game our Vols really put 110% effort. Look at Senior Jonathan Hefney said..."Doesnt matter at all.We won. I dont care at all. We won." If that is the attitude of a senior, it tells the rest of the story for defensive attitude anyway. Just pulling thru by luck and winning by other teams mistakes is unacceptable. If Slade coaches this attitude, he must go.

Posted by RocketVol on October 28, 2007 at 7:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am going to say it again because I can't believe it: Tennessee upset South Carolina. I am still shocked - how did we pull it off.

I hope we can UPSET Kentucky. But I'm not sure we are good enough.

Posted by CrankE on October 28, 2007 at 7:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Another 500 yards of offense given, another career day for the opponents #1 receiver. What galls me more than anything though is the ineptitude of our offense.

Play calling from the offense was predictable and pathetic. Part of the reason our awful defense was out there 80 minutes is because our offense refused to do anything of significance in the last 29:00 of this game.

I didn't understand the end-game thinking. Using a time out to "ice" a kicker was a complete waste. Had they kept it, they'd have had 2 time outs and 1:00 to get down the field. That second time out would have come in handy when UT was trying to pass on second and 1-rather than just send Foster through the line to pick up the first down, stop the clock, and THEN take a shot at the end zone. Sigh.

And to think, this team is the only one in the SEC East that controls their destiny.

Posted by Ironcity on October 28, 2007 at 8:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Efforts never been the problem. What was amazing is we won despite everyone doing what they always do when the pressure is on. Ainge yacked when the presure was on, Foster fumbled at a criticle moment, the defense as well as Chavis looked like deer in headlights for the second half of the game. SC stopped executing at the end. The guys were still open they just didn't make the plays. On a positive note we won the game and our defensive line played well. The linebackers are the most over rated bunch in UT history. Mayo gets stoned by a 210 halfback on a blitz (this happens every game) Karl gets run over at least 4 times a game and McCoy who I like just takes ridiculous angles to the ball carriers. Its time for us to bring in a beefy middle linebacker and move Mayo to Karl's spot unless its a pass play then sit Mayo all together.

Posted by tngeoff on October 28, 2007 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

slovog

"Sorry, loser/haters. Too bad UT won this week. Please tell us how miserable you are, in spite of the fact that this UT team, led by coach Fulmer, is sitting ahead of Urban and Steve.

LMAO!!"

Enjoy the next two weeks. You can sound as obnoxious as you want to. Just remember, every body who speaks the truth isn't a "loser/hater" and you're not the only one who wants us to win. I know words are wasted on you and surely some obnoxious diatribe will follow my posting...but I do wish you would stiop sounding like you do. But, like I said...enjoy these next two weeks where you proclaim that we are in the hunt for everything from Conference Championship to National Championship.

Posted by fivolfan on October 28, 2007 at 8:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

its in the win column and hefneys comments weren't a reflection of his attitude, rather a sigh of relief. kept me from having to wear a gamecock hat for the second time in 15 years!

Posted by mikes70gto on October 28, 2007 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The second half just proved to me the staff is just sittng on their "ride out the season butts". This defensive staff needs to be let go,at games end would of not been to soon. Hats off to some of the frosh who played last night Jones,Willingham just two of the many good ones sitting on the pines due to the coaches lack of reasoning.We do contol our destiny "again" but lets all remember anyone can go down in this the EAST.

Posted by dtaylor0730 on October 28, 2007 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If UT would ever put 60 minutes of football together, they would be a very good team. However. that is something I fear the coaching staff doesn't instill in the players. To hear Hefney say, "It doesn't matter, we won," is the same thing as saying we are satisfied to put forth just enough effort to get by.

Face the facts, the 21 point lead that UT blew by the inability of coaching to make needed adjustments, and the conservative mentality instilled in this team is sad. The Vols are very fortunate to have won this game. Granted, a really good kick off return helped, and I do attribute that to skill, but they were lucky to have fumbled twice and recovered both times at the end of regulation.

In reality, the Vols played 31 minutes of sound football. The other 29 minutes the usual uninspired play that emanates from the coaching staff was on the field.

Posted by bmaples on October 28, 2007 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Does it strike anyone that this team (and, frankly, many others) is out of shape? I'm not talking about injuries -- those happen to every team. I'm talking about people who aren't injured, but don't have it as the game wears on.

It just seems to me that there is a stamina problem, especially on the defensive side, and that's why the defense seems to get worse as the game progresses.

Any thoughts?

Posted by bigorangesob on October 28, 2007 at 9:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Defense is not outta shape, hell they're tired from being on the field so darn long during the games

Posted by tngeoff on October 28, 2007 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Drew Edwards,

"Vols showed just enough fight to save season"

??????????????????????????????????????????????

Bro'. No offense, but we're 5 - 3 with three potential threats remaining. How did that ugly game save our season? Did you mean:

"Vols showed just enough fight to save utter and complete embrassament?"

or

"Vols showed just enough fight to save Fulmer?"

I'm a bit confused.

Posted by ballou1024 on October 28, 2007 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gutless win. This team (Coaches included) gave up in the second half. Don't expect Tennessee to win out and win the East. Thanks Georgia, but No Thanks!

Posted by jcvet on October 28, 2007 at 10:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I saw NO fight in the second half. Did I miss something? A DivIII defense with a good coach would have made a better showing. And a supposed senior leader says he doesn't care.

Posted by TommyJack on October 28, 2007 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Beware the Ragin Cajuns!! Parity, etc......

Posted by B_A_VOL on October 28, 2007 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Remember, SC was ranked in top 10 three weeks ago. NAH!! That's not going to help me keep from saying that we need changes and I hope we get them soon. Arkansas will be a win if we outscore them. Kentucky will be a win if we outscore them. Vandy is a win if we outscore them. I really would be concerned. The quicker the change the better for recruiting. I love UT. I respect Fulmer. BUT, I love UT. Lets get the changes started. Remember, Sanders was asked to leave and made a quick announcement. Maybe some others will have the guts to do that also.

Posted by Pullingguard on October 28, 2007 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can you really imagine what the reaction would have been had Vols lost this game. It would have been a circus (past weeks only tent show) compared with past. I cannot really imagine what would have happened for the remainder of this season, to the coaching staff, possible recruits, and much more.
It was a close call and a very, very, good win for the Vols, regardless of the ugly nature.

Posted by DadwasaVol on October 28, 2007 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just like Tennessee has done, Spurrier and Meyer will now have to work like heck to get back in the SEC East race.

Posted by slovog on October 28, 2007 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ouch! All that stinging criticism!

Show me anywhere, and I mean ANYWHERE, that I have made a claim about "that we are in the hunt for everything from Conference Championship to National Championship." I HAVE stated that we now sit in 1st place, tied with Georgia but owning the tie-breaker. That's just the way it is. Sorry to disappoint you.

You might want to bone up on those reading skills. Even your posts to other posters are filled with emotion that clouds your thinking.

Nothing is going to keep you jokers from playing the Sunday morning quarterback game. And you think you sound like big football authorities! But you sound like clowns. CLOWNS!!

But keep it up. It IS sort of amusing.

It is amusing, too, that you, tngeoff, respond when I address a post to "loser/haters". You must recognize yourself in one of those words. Which one is it?!!

Posted by zebra7933 on October 28, 2007 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You know, you can say what you want about how "bad" the VOLS have been. You can badmouth his team and say the coaching staff sucks or whatever. But, you still have to look at what the program has accomplished over the past 13 years. National champions, SEC champions, winning seasons, and graduating players are something that not all programs in the country have. I live in Kentucky, right in the heart of "BIG BLUE COUNTRY". It has taken them years to even get close to the level of UT's program, and they still aren't there. I admire all the coaching staff members and think that even though there are people who think that we need to win every game, you just cannot in todays climate of "pariody" in college football. Any team can beat any other (save a few exceptions) any given day. The VOLS have no experience at WR or in the defensive secondary, and they are still beating top 15 teams. Yea, there are going to be times we get burnt and don't make plays, but when you look at the overall status of the program, I think things are alot better at UT than other places in the country. Who would want to be a Nebraska coach right now anyway?

Posted by TommyJack on October 28, 2007 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

slovog: you are pudekcufylsuoires?

Posted by brdteton on October 28, 2007 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Cry Cry Cry,,,,,,

We won,,,,,,

Cry Cry Cry......

Posted by wisonsinvol on October 28, 2007 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I heard last week that if Tennessee wins out or loses only one more game, that Fulmer would be back but Chavis and most of the defensive staff is gone at season end regardless. It certainly looked as if Chavis has checked out. To be fair, our inept offense in the 2nd half made our defense look much, much worse than they really are. But truly, I do not understand what the coaches can be doing at halftime that is making us look so absolutely horrible in the second half - all year. Fla, Cal, Ala were all close in the first half and SC we looked awesome. But four second half collapses means whatever the coaches are trying to do to motivate these kids is absolutely not working.

Posted by tngeoff on October 28, 2007 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

slovog,

"It is amusing, too, that you, tngeoff, respond when I address a post to "loser/haters". You must recognize yourself in one of those words. Which one is it?!!"

Neither, but thank you for asking. I can relate to those you put in that box as I read posts of frustration. Can't you? I know you have to have some level of frustration. Example: Pre-Season
What did you expect pre-season? Has the Tennessee football program lived up to your expectation from per-season? If you expected thsi years performance your expectations leave something to be desired. More time? Is that what you expect? Chaeck the last few coaches and see how much time they got. Just think about it Bro'.

Posted by BigUn on October 28, 2007 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"The Gamecocks picked up 355 of their 501 yards of total offense after halftime."

And yet the sheep don't see anything wrong with our program and Jon Hefney says it doesn't matter.

No wonder we are a mediocre team.

Posted by jhmclain on October 28, 2007 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

In short, I've been watching or attending UT games regularly since '68 and this defense (yes, I realize a lot of underclassman) is about the worst I have ever seen. I think at a minimum Chavis and D coaches have to go and I have actually thought that about Slade for the past several years.

Posted by tnbuco on October 28, 2007 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey idiots,
The reaction to this win underscores why college football is inferior to the NFL. Do you think that Dungy or Bellicek cares at all about how they one a game. Since the NFL is not a rigged beauty pagent they have the same attitude that Hef has. A win is a win no matter how you get it.

To the losers who don't want us to win the east so that they can call for Fulmer's head. Up your meds and get a life.

Posted by movol77 on October 28, 2007 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"To blow a 21 pt lead and get lucky we got a false start. Ironic that a mistake saved our season"

THE WHISTLE BLEW BEFORE Lincoln kicked the ball. He knew it was a dead ball, aside the fact that your concentration is broken (ever had someone say "hold on" in your golf backswing?). The bellowing about a 2nd chance is just that...BELLLOWING and it is out of context...THE WHISTLE HAD BLOWN AND THE PLAY WAS DEAD BEFORE LINCOLN KICKED THE BALL!!!!!!!!!

Posted by waterskier3 on October 28, 2007 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

just one comment... 21-0 at the half and 24-21 final... how bad is our D??? did chavis and fat phil on the sideline look like OMG we're going to lose?????

7M to buy out these guys this year so we'll have them one more year........

we still lose 1 or 2 more games but not sure who will represent the east in the championship game...

Posted by volsfan327 on October 28, 2007 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AP Poll just out #24 Tennessee #23 South Carolina

Posted by DenmarkVol_aka_Mbumburu on October 28, 2007 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"It was good to hear some of them say, 'Coach we got it done tonight,'" defensive coordinator John Chavis said. "This team will fight. There's no doubt about that."

What would they have said if Foster lost that fumble? If Lincoln had missed? If Succop had made his? If we had lost?

Yes, they're fighters. They're supposed to be, just as ever other SEC/NCAA defense is supposed to be.

Chief, you cannot in good conscience let this fiction about "getting it done" last night linger.

The defense was awful in the second half. Everyone with a pulse who watched the game knows that, as do you.

Your defense gave up 501 yards -- 330 in the air, 171 on the ground. That is not "getting it done;" it's a "prevent" defense that doesn't prevent.

And why on earth didn't you anticipate some of the halftme adjustments Spurrier would make and then make some adjustments of your own? You've played against this guy enough to know better.

Posted by Colliervol on October 28, 2007 at 4:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

slovog, talk to us at the end of the Kentucky game. If they somehow make it that far and to Atlanta, then the debate can begin. Until then, first place on Oct. 28 means squat. I will say it is better than being in last place though. But it still doesn't answer some of the basic questions about why this team can be so inconsistent from game to game (or should I say half to half).

One game either way doesn't change my opinion. I still lean toward a new staff but, if they make it to Atlanta, one of my stipulations in defining success will be satisfied. And, to be consistent, it would be hard to argue for Phil to leave at that point. But I stress the word IF.

Posted by DennisVols on October 28, 2007 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Good: Vols win
The Bad: Still giving up too much yardage, too much chusin on recievers, too many points
The Ugly: What a way too win a game. Sometimes it seems the breaks go your way. The defense made some and luck provided some.

Posted by coachinhoops on October 28, 2007 at 5:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Everyone is asking for Fulmers head, because we are a better program than 8-4 and 7-5. If I'm not mistaken isn't it Philip Fulmer that raised those expectations. What were his averages before the national championship, and what are his averages since. If he gets fired I hope you idiots get just what you deserve. No coach is going to be able to meet the expectations in Knoxville. And even if they could why would they come here knowing that all the rednecks of the volnation will be calling for their head if they don't win a national championship or an SEC championship in the first season. I hope you all realize that no coach is going to want to come here because of you.

Posted by invisiblekid on October 28, 2007 at 6:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice post dtaylor0730. "Just enough to get by" may wind up as the theme of next year's media guide. I hope these players and coaches don't get so wrapped up in one win that they forget to "work like heck" the rest of the season.

According to Ryan Karl "They started driving on us when we were tired,". So I guess that means they were tired coming out after halftime. It must have been from the fiery locker room speech and all the adjustments that led to the Vols blowing a 21 point lead. A win is a win but I don't think I can recall one that was less-deserved.

Posted by DougGottliebsCreditCard on October 28, 2007 at 6:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I've skimmed through most of the posts and haven't seen much attention paid to the lack of second half offense.

I've thought the defense sucked all season, except against Georia, and they weren't very good again yesterday.

However, the offense killed the defense last night. The time of possession was unbalanced in favor of USC. Ainge blew last night and Cutcliffe abandoned the run again. Those were reasons 1 and 1A that USC got back into the game.

Posted by tngeoff on October 28, 2007 at 8:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dlskaggs,

Good post Bro'. If I may add:

The cause of most concern: Fulmer and Hamilton hugging so passionately.

Posted by Madkels on October 28, 2007 at 8:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dead last in the SEC on defense, tied for 1st in the SEC East. Go figure. No way with our defense we make it to Atlanta..Even if we did, LSU would win by 4 td's.

Posted by jawbreaker on October 28, 2007 at 9:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you look at the stats, there is no way you would think that the Vols were even in the game, much less won it. Miracles do happen (Arkansas '98), but this was almost beyond belief. CrankE, you're the only person on here that has mentioned the bonehead TO that Fulmer called to "ice" Succop. It didn't work, in fact, it probably allowed Succop to collect himself since SC had NO TOs left; and, it left the Vols with only one TO to try to score before the end of regulation. Fortunately, it wasn't critical to the outcome of the game, but it was indicative of a coach who was in panic mode, and not exhibiting good time management.

Posted by Colliervol on October 28, 2007 at 9:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh I don't know, coachinhoops. I'd say around
$3 million a year will talk somebody into coming. Just a hunch though.

Posted by mad_poly_uct on October 28, 2007 at 10:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If there was ever a reason to drop this current inane BCS crap & go to a playoff system, here's one....Uconn is #13 in BCS standings & you guys are nowhere to be found! We'll take it while it lasts(1 week probably)....

Posted by NickelsVol on October 28, 2007 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

slovog, keep fighting the good fight! And good luck with it! Unfortunately, you are dealing with some people who are currently unaware that Meyer and SOS have conference records worse than ours, so go figure. :-)

coachinhoops, you are right on the mark. These pseudo-offensive and defensive coordinators (and even some head pseudo-head coaches) on this board (who do not see these young men practice every day and know what's going on in their personal lives, I add) do not realize how being unsupportive and negative can really hurt the image a potential recruit gets. The ones who resort to namecalling and personal insults should also be grateful that boards like this one give them an outlet. I feel sorry for family members and friends who are around them on a daily basis and actually have to live with the dysfunction. We have the luxury of reading the posts and just laughing at their juvenile behavior.

That said, I am not "thrilled" with 5-3, but that is where we are; furthermore, I have seen worse. I remember sitting in the stadium and suffering through the first half of 1988. As a "twentysomething" then, I honestly never thought that a UT team would ever run the table and win a national championship. And I didn't care. I loved/still love UT football. Someone got us to that NC level, as you say, coachinhoops. That man (who I believe has eight seasons with double-digit wins) deserves some respect. It's not that I (or anyone else) agree with him/his staff 100 percent of the time and don't do some second guessing, but the personal attacks against someone who has done a lot for this program are out of line.

Right now, we have a better conference record than Florida, Kentucky, and South Carolina. Let's support Coach Fulmer and this staff and team during the November stretch and see what happens. We might lose the next three conference games. However, we might win them and wind up 9-3 and playing for the SECC. Let's hope the latter happens!

GO VOLS!

Posted by coachinhoops on October 29, 2007 at 12:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks Nickelsvol. I believe whether or not UT runs the table and wins the East that Fulmer deserves at least another couple of years to develop this class of freshmen. He and his staff are great recruiters and next years season looks tremendously bright. Not that this year still can't be very good. If I'm wrong let me know, but isn't the core of our offense and defense all back next year. I hope that no potential players get on these boards and read the ignorance spewed by the majority of the so called volnation. I bet South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, and Kentucky would be extremely happy to be in Tennessee's shoes right now. I am one UT fan that is still proud to be a Vol. I just pray that UT runs the table so all you haters will enjoy some nice big juicy crow for the holiday season.

Posted by invisiblekid on October 29, 2007 at 12:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mbumburu, just to add one to your "what ifs", What if Coker doesn't make that 37 yard return to midfield? I think that was the biggst play of the game. I don't think there is any way the offense moves the ball 40-50 yards to get into field goal range the way they were playing.

Posted by asleep on October 29, 2007 at 1:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think most pre-sesaon straw polls projected us at 2nd or 3rd in the East. If we win the East, even if we win it ugly, we have had a good season - period. Not great, but certainly good. I think what has most folks upset is the margin of defeat in our 3 losses. Fair enough and that is concerning. The defensive woes are also obvious and I think everyone understands that UT will not be able to maintain a successful program playing defense like that in the future. I feel coaching changes should be made, especially on defense. But if Fulmer is willing to make the necessary staffing changes, I think he should stay. Under his watch the bar was raised and he should be allowed to fix the problems now. If he refuses to change direction, especially with his staff, then maybe he is too stubbornly loyal - the program should come first - and he may need to go. Just a thought. Go Vols!!!

Posted by slovog on October 29, 2007 at 7:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Apparently some just refuse to ever be happy, NickelsVol. You read this same garbage day after day, week after week. It's apparent that the losers/haters really don't know much about the sport itself, so they continue to write the drivel about getting rid of the guy who has us , at this moment, atop the east.

And they always want to come back with the "just wait 'til next week 'cause we're gonna lose" stuff. And they may be correct, we may lose next week or the week after. Who knows? I certainly don't. But I do know that we won this week, over the one coach they should enjoy beating, and the loser/haters are too knee-deep in their hatred for the Vols' coach to enjoy the team's win. That is pathetic.

They're like Beano Cook. They are willing to look like morons most of the time in order to be able to, at one point, "look at me, I told you so", when the team falters.

Too bad they aren't bright enough to look at the SEC standings and see how closely all the teams are bunched up, and how unpredictable this season has been on a national level, and then not realize that it's not only the Vols who are losing a few games. As a group, their emotion overrules their intellect, which seems to be a sad commentary on the size and strength of their intellect.

Posted by slovogthegayblade on October 29, 2007 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

But I, slovog, neither refuse to be happy nor gay! I love it! It's FANTASTIC! Here's a little cheer for all you haters/losers -

man love, sheep love
strap on my collar
stir up my kool-aid
and make slovog HOLLER!

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

Posted by slovogthegayblade on October 29, 2007 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Feeling a little schizophrenic over here...

Posted by slovog on October 29, 2007 at 5:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

From the post two entries ago, seems like you've got the "man love, sheep love" thing all figured out.

If you think that weak effort is going to quell my posting, you're silly. As silly as your adopting a screen name close to mine.

But keep on ... even the losers/haters can figure this one out.

Posted by slovogthegayblade on October 29, 2007 at 9:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here are a couple more things for the rest of you losers/haters out there -

Fact - the Vols are sitting atop the SEC East with the inside track to the SEC championship game, owning the tie-breaker.

Fact - the coach that has them there is now 3 for 4 against the same Saint Steve you morons think can do no wrong.

Fact - your silly antics have as much chance of quelling my posting as they do of quelling my appetite for man love.

Fact - this orange kool-aid is STILL delicious!

Posted by dash727 on October 29, 2007 at 11:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey bpmaples, you and your corpulent wife should skip the buffet bar at Shoney's. Are you looking for friends from the closet because you are lonely?

Posted by budrhon on October 30, 2007 at 1:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Gamecocks choked that one away!