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Florida delivers worst loss in Fulmer era
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GAINESVILLE, Fla. - Tennessee came to Florida looking for a shootout Saturday and got one.
But some shootouts aren't fair fights.
While the Gators whipped out the heavy artillery, the Vols fired back with a pellet gun.
The resulting carnage was a 59-20 rout that goes down as the worst loss in the Phillip Fulmer era at UT. The previous worst was 31-0, also courtesy of Florida in 1994.
"Certainly,'' said Fulmer, "this wasn't representative of what we intended for it to be down here today.''
The 22nd-ranked Vols are 1-2, 0-1 SEC, and beset with questions as to where the season is going from here.
"We knew we had a tough schedule at the beginning of the season,'' said Fulmer.
"We've really got to look at ourselves, our players, our coaches, our leadership and go back to work.''
The fourth-ranked and defending national champion Gators are 3-0, 1-0 SEC, and look like they have enough big-play ability to carry a young defense until it gets up to speed.
A pair of sophomores, quarterback Tim Tebow and do-everything Percy Harvin, led an assault that accumulated 554 yards of total offense.
Tebow passed for 299 yards and two touchdowns and ran for 61 more and a couple of scores.
Harvin had four catches for 120 yards and 75 rushing yards on nine carries, an 8.3-yard average.
"This offense is fun,'' said Harvin. "Just throw it, catch it and run it.''
Tennessee's offense wasn't a barrel of laughs, producing only one touchdown.
That came when Erik Ainge passed 15 yards to Chris Brown in the final seconds of the first half.
Freshman defensive back Eric Berry accounted for the other touchdown with a 96-yard interception return.
Tennessee parlayed those two scores to cut a 28-6 Florida lead to 28-20 with 8:47 to play in the third quarter.
All of a sudden, it was a game again. And when the UT defense forced a Florida punt, it was even more of a game.
When UT took over at its 13, momentum was back in orange.
"We're talking about the next time we score going for two, and all kinds of scenarios,'' said Fulmer.
One scenario they weren't talking about was an Arian Foster fumble on a handoff from Ainge.
Florida linebacker Dustin Doe scooped up the gift and hustled 18 yards for a touchdown to make it 35-20.
"If we go down and score there it would be a different ballgame,'' said Ainge. "Obviously, that was huge.''
The final margin ended up huge as Florida scored the final 31 points of the game.
Harvin started the next scoring drive with a 49-yard catch to midfield after Florida started at its 1. He finished the 99-yard drive with a 19-yard scoring run on the first play of the fourth quarter.
On Florida's next snap, he caught a 48-yard bomb to set up Tebow's 5-yard touchdown run to make it 49-20.
Three Harvin touches: 116 yards.
Freshman quarterback Cameron Newton got the final Gator score on a 4-yard run with 1:14 to play.
The 59 points is the most allowed by Tennessee since Florida's 62-37 rout here in 1995.
Fulmer said he wasn't offended that the Gators didn't go into a shell after the victory was in hand.
"That's football,'' he said. "It's our job to stop them.''
It was UT's job to run the ball, but that didn't go too well, either.
The Vols' 21 rushing attempts netted 37 yards. So much for controlling the clock and keeping Tebow on the sideline.
Ainge was 26-of-41 passing for 249 yards.
"I don't think Erik ever got in a rhythm,'' said Fulmer.
Virtually all of his passes were short routes. While the Vols dinked and dunked, Tebow & Co. came at the Tennessee defense from all angles.
Eight different players carried the ball. The fruit of their labors was 255 yards rushing.
"We were in perfect position a lot of times and just didn't make the plays,'' said linebacker Ryan Karl.
"And when you don't make the plays when you can, it's going to be like this.''
Which was a lot like it was at Cal two weeks ago, only worse.
Missed tackles weren't the only similarity to the 45-31 loss on opening day.
In a case of deja vu, a Florida Field crowd of 90,707 was hardly settled in before the Gators had a 7-0 lead before their offense got on the field.
As was the case at Cal, Tennessee won the coin toss and elected to receive. The strategy backfired both times.
Cal scored first on a fumble return and later added a punt return TD. Florida did it the other way around.
"We cannot help good teams the way we helped Cal and Florida,'' said Fulmer.
Saturday, Austin Rogers dropped a third-down pass on the opening series and out came the punting unit.
Bam! Brandon James took Britton Colquitt's first effort 83 yards for a touchdown.
Still, Tennessee had a field-position advantage all through the first quarter - and managed to trail 14-3.
UT squandered a 74-yard LaMarcus Coker kickoff return when Ainge was intercepted at the Florida 9.
The Vols' next two possessions via Florida punts began at midfield. All they got to show for it was a Daniel Lincoln field goal.
"We give 'em those plays,'' said Ainge, "the special teams and a fumble, and then not getting points in the red zone.
"There were a lot of things we did that did not help us.''
Mike Strange may be reached at 865-342-6276 or strange2@knews.com.
© 2007, Knoxville News Sentinel Co.

Posted by Outdors21 on September 15, 2007 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well, next year will be worse. That's the sad part. Dear god, Please let tennessee win at least 6 this year...it'll take a miracle. I am watching Ark vs. ALA and we are certainly going to lose to Alabama. Think Major Applewhite would accept the head coaching position? Dear god.
Posted by andy112382 on September 15, 2007 at 7:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Alright guys, CRVol, all of you others that have been down on the coach, I owe ya'll an apology and I said I would if we started 1-2, something just ain't right, and it ain't talent levels. For Fulmer & Co. to turn things around and have a good year, we will have to come out looking like a completely different team because we have been embarrassing for all but one half of football (2nd half of SoMiss game we decent) So, yea something will have to change it seems, that was just bad. Still a Vol for life and bleed orange! GO VOLS!!! Do something!
Posted by jtp1576 on September 15, 2007 at 7:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm at a lose for words. Fulmer, thank you for your service and dedication to UT. Now, make the right move and tell the VOLS nation you are leaving at the end of the year.
Posted by volmanohio on September 15, 2007 at 7:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This shows how far Tennessee has fallen behind in recruiting talent and good coaching...8 wins this year, Fulmer probably keeps his job, but without Chavis...he must produce a more competitive team in '08 to stay any longer. Once Saban starts beating us on a regular basis, he's done...
Posted by williamshockley on September 15, 2007 at 7:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
He can't beat Meyer....Florida continues to rake in the talent and they had a ton of recruits at the game today....we better make a change quickly. Hamilton is a tough AD, I do believe he will be in Fulmer's ear.
Posted by footballfan on September 15, 2007 at 7:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well well well. I wonder where all the Fulmer supporters are. Better get comfy in that hole you are hiding in because it's gonna get pretty ugly around here. I don't want to be taken the wrong way on this so please understand what I am trying to say. This beatdown will be the best thing to happen all year for the Vols if, and I really am hoping for this, if Fulmer, Chavis, and and every other person that has anything to do with the special teams and defense finds themselves without a job. It is a must at this point. I swear to God if anyone still supports Fulmer and Co. after this, then it's pretty obvious that those individuals are about as stupid as a human being can be. I take that back. They would be even dumber than an amoeba whose sole purpose in life is to wiggle its way toward food. Coach Cutcliffe, I don't know if you are being handcuffed by Fulmer or not, but if I were you, that would be my story if I wanted to keep a job. If this is your doing that has the offense so reliant on the short two and three yard routes for an ENTIRE GAME, then you should be dumped on as well. I hate to see all of the players on that team that have so much talent get ruined by these morons running the team. Oh yeah, Hamilton, fire Fulmer or take a walk to make room for someone who will fire him. I have no respect for anything that has to do with Volunteers football anymore. Why should anyone? I have been so unimpressed by what I've seen that I wouldn't bet two cents on these coaches to beat anybody. I can't explain how much hatred I am holding back on right now. I can't even say that I hope Fulmer has a happy and enjoyable retirement. At this point, I feel he deserves to suffer as much as he has made us suffer for far too long now. It would be justice for him to feel as much depression and humiliation as the fans. It's obvious he doesn't care about losing football games or else something would be done. I don't know what to do anymore. I have ran out of excuses to defend the Vols. I have to miss most of the season because I am deployed to Iraq right now, and it seems like that is turning out to be a good thing. I wish the best for the Vols on behalf of the players and coaches that really do want to work and win. I don't wish anything for the coaching staff mentioned earlier.
Go Vols, if that's possible anymore.
Posted by abrown on September 15, 2007 at 7:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
All disgust aside, I wonder who we can get to coach? I do think after the loss to Saban, Hamilton will be fed up. This is the first time that I actually believed that Fulmer was through -- and I do. I think he's burned his last chip on this one.
Posted by skinalive on September 15, 2007 at 7:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
59-20?
This team will not win six games. Book it.
Posted by lawrenced on September 15, 2007 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It seemed like whenever the momentum was shifting in our direction, we would find a way to screw it up. We did not show much discipline on either side of the the ball.
Posted by DennisVols on September 15, 2007 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TOO MANY MISTAKES, NO PLAYMAKERS.
Did anyone else see the passion in coach Meyers as he encouraged his team even when UT made their pitiful attempt at a comeback?
How far we have slipped since '98. How much farther do we have to go before something is done to make us a proud university again?
Posted by Basketball_Jones on September 15, 2007 at 7:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
3 names for to think of as our new coach....Jimbo Fisher, Bo Pelini and Mike Belotti...I want to congratulate all the people on who said 2 years ago this offense that Urban Meyer runs would not work in the SEC, you were dead wrong! I am going to start a fire Fulmer fund across the state. If I can get 400,000 people to each give $10 we can buy him out of his contract.
Posted by maddog72 on September 15, 2007 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Time for a change Fulmer has to go. As stated before when Saban starts beating him he will be gone . I just hope we do not have to wait that long.
Posted by olozbal on September 15, 2007 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Guys, we choked big time and we're an undisciplined team. I'll keep it positive though - we should sit Ainge down for Arkansas State and play Crompton. That gives Ainge two weeks to rest that hand and get our offense back in gear.
Why is it every time I see a busted play I see Parrish standing there? When Berry got beaten it was by a hair, Parrish got destroyed, just like Cal.
We would have beat a Chris Leak led football team today. Tebow is legit and we got owned.
I'm in the get a new head coach club now too guys. Sorry Fulmer.
Posted by yeavols on September 15, 2007 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The talent level has dropped, coaching is not working, dropped passes, missed tackles, fumbles, and the worst loss in years. I don't know what else to say. I guess we are officially back to where we were before Majors left. Maybe another 10 years to get back on track might be in order. At least we still have Pearl and basketball is just a few months away. See you all next year, maybe. Signing off..and good night.
Posted by williamshockley on September 15, 2007 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
And then depression set in....
Posted by cwisenhower on September 15, 2007 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I hate to admit this, but I am pulling for the Vols to have a losing season in the hopes that we get a new head coach. That was ridiculous.
We have a roster that features 2 nationally, top-rated recruits, and a coaching staff that does not know how to do anything with them.
Posted by lamigravol on September 15, 2007 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
UT has way too much talent to be giving this effort. That falls on the coach. Why is the University so in love with Fulmer? He should have been fired after the loss to Memphis, when he had the best player in the history of the school. It just keeps getting worse. One day, the top recruits will stop comming. Image how bad Phil will be with lesser talent. UT can't win with an NFL stocked roster. I say leave now and let the rebuilding begin. Who is the coach at South Florida? He's beaten AU since Fulmer last did! Kids don't go to UT to win 8 or 9 games. They come here to compete for NC's. Fulmer is not the guy.
Posted by AllVol on September 15, 2007 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree footballfan. I have supported Phil. I hope he retires with dignity. When they interviewed him at halftime, he sounded both beat and like he didn't have a clue. The game has passed him by. It's as simple as that. It's coaching and nothing else. It's as simple as that. This loss was humiliating and heartbreaking. I hurt for the boys on the team. We may lose Trooper in the process (unless a new coach was smart enough to keep him), but it's time to clean house. Go Vols is always possible. This team is directionless. Heartbreaking.
Posted by wkb12 on September 15, 2007 at 7:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well..I have been a fulmer supporter..I admit it. But I have to say, this game turned me against it. You'll never see steve spurrier get beat by 50..even with a horrible team. Why do you keep putting Foster in..time after time..only to watch him get tackled at the line of scrimmage or fumble? I don't know about anyone else, but I could tell a difference when Foster went out and Coker went in. I just don't understand it.
Posted by olozbal on September 15, 2007 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Another thing - why can the announcer predict the plays better than Chavis can? Can we hire him to coach the defense?
That's BS that they ran the score up on us too. Keeping Tebow in was an insult. Wouldn't have mattered but it's still BS.
Posted by vjnd3 on September 15, 2007 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This is a new low for TN football. We got beat in every aspect of this game.
Time to play the young ones and start clean with a new coaching staff next year. TN coaches have let the game pass them by. There are no longer any excuses for this staff. Were lucky to be as crappy as the Mich Wolverines who will lose their head coach at years end. TIME TO START THE REBUILDING PROCESS!!!!
Posted by AllVol on September 15, 2007 at 7:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Fulmer has no fire at all. No spark. No nothing. It's over for him. Who in the hell cannot see that? I didn't want to believe it. Basketball. Basketball. Basketball. We want basketball?! This is insane.
Posted by Outdors21 on September 15, 2007 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
No way UT is beating 'Bama. THey are putting a HURTING on Arkansas. Who is the worse coach...given the talent....Fulmer or Nutt? I have to say Fulmer.
Posted by AllVol on September 15, 2007 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
My God, it's '05 again . . . .
Posted by Ironcity on September 15, 2007 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What defense is it that we run where the defensive ends are not allowed to cross the line of scrimmage. What defense is it that we run where players go uncovered and unaccounted for. What defense is that forbids a player from making a play. I don't think there is a team in the conference that we can stop on third and anything even if they tell us what they are going to do. It been time for Chavis to go for a while but maybe its time for all of them (except Taylor) to go. Someone needs to mention to Ainge that on a forth down play you need to throw the ball either past the spot that is needed or at least on the field where someone could actually make a play. I like Ainge but it looks like he is more concerned about his stats then making plays. No plays down field. I keep hearing we have no playmakers but I thinks its more out of what we do not for lack of talent.
It will be interesting to see how Florida executes against LSU. I think they will commit a lot of turnovers and the game will be 21 points in LSU's favor.
Posted by tenniskid on September 15, 2007 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
footballfan...the worse thing you can do is hold back and keep it bottled up. Go ahead...LET IT OUT! Seriously, that game was a circus and was nothing short of embarrassing. And although I hate it and consider myself a fan...you have to be realistic. All those who were predicted a Tennessee win...come on, the way we played the first two games!! Quit putting your head in the sand. Being realistic does not equate to being a traitor.
Posted by utvols1 on September 15, 2007 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
That was one horrific ass kicking. Can't remember being so soundly beaten. Oh yeah how about Arkansas last year, Cal this year.... We were never in this game. I had said all along that special teams and our inability to presure tebow would cost us this game. I didn't realize that 2 dropped passes from Rogers and pathetic O line play AND complete break downs in the secondary would add to the misery. And I also found out that Angie hurt his pinky while playing a pick up game of b-ball! Here is the worst part of all....FL will be GREAT for the next 4 yrs with all of the freshman they have while we continue our fall from grace. We have no big time play makers. Not one reciever can stretch the field for more than 30yrds. How can you be a talented HS player and want to come to vol land and not be coached up to your potential. Bye Phil. Bye Chavis. Enough is enough. I predicted a 8-4 going in to this season. That was having not seen this team play. Now that I witnessed 3 quarters of melt down, I'd like to revise that prediction down to 6-6. What an embarassment. Good luck recruiting this year.
Posted by mtnvol on September 15, 2007 at 7:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Talk all you want about firing Fulmer. I was a big Phil Fan until today....we have too many issues for a team with the kind of recruits we've gathered. However, I want to bring up another point. Yes, its our defense's responsibility to stop the opponent, but.....
1. UF keeping first team in when up by 22 in 4th quarter.
2. Throwing deep in 4th quarter.
3. Not calling "Victory Play" and taking a knee in the last minute.
In my mind, all of this adds up to No Class! I was hoping that we would break Tebow up in the 4th just to show Urban what a stupid, classless move he made. I'll be pulling for Jack A$$'s Tigers to hang 75 on the gators.
Posted by Tenacn on September 15, 2007 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I hate myself for even thinking this but....maybe it is time for a complete change. I have been a supporter of Coach Fulmer and his staff since he took over from Coach Majors. Maybe the team needs fresh ideas, the SEC teams know what to expect every time they play TN. Don't get me wrong I am and have always been a TN fan/supporter and yes my blood does bleed orange! At the rate they are playing right now, they will not be a .500 team this year. Please prove me wrong!!! GO VOLS!!!
Posted by RocketVol on September 15, 2007 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Woo wee, I am ready for the Fulmer backers to join in - I am in the mood to pick a fight. Special teams - TERRIBLE. Offense - TERRIBLE. Defense - TERRIBLE. But don't worry guys, the NFL talent scouts are looking past that score. I will not spend another dime on Tennessee football until this entire staff is out!
Posted by Spuchy on September 15, 2007 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hamilton, fire the entire coaching staff. I've offically had it. Enough already. My money/support will not be going to my alma mater until these guys are leave...
Posted by eb502us on September 15, 2007 at 7:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As bad as our defense is, Fulmer and Cutcliffe are completely clueless. Fulmer with the offensive line and running issues and Cutcliffe with the rediculous playcalling. They both tell us how they're going to run the ball in short yardage situations, then on a key 4th and 1 in the first quarter, we go to shotgun without even giving UF a play action possibility. Absoulutely rediculous!!! and hypocritical of everything they continue to preach week after week. As for Cutcliffe, our dink and dunk offense is uncalled for when UF NEVER put any pressure on Ainge when he dropped back and passed. Any wonder why we couldn't run the ball as we NEVER threw the ball deep when the opportunity and protection was there all game long. Fulmer and Cutcliffe are without a doubt the worst coaching combination in the SEC and both need to go!!!
Posted by Coord on September 15, 2007 at 7:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Let's see now, UT colors are about right I'd say. White for surrender and orange is as about as close to yellow as you can get so I guess they should keep them for another week. What a waste of my afternoon.
Thanks for nothing coaches.
Posted by oneeyeddog333 on September 15, 2007 at 7:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
need to fire fulmer and hire a coach that can light a fire under the players ass and get some wins
Posted by yeavols on September 15, 2007 at 7:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
RUnning up the score now is the thing to do for BCS points. It's good for the VOLS to see who has fire to play and who doesn't. Vols looked like they gave up at the end of the 3rd quarter. No heart, no fire, just mediocracy. I am over it. Look for a loss at Alabama and possibly Georgia or South Carlina. If only the Evil Genious Spurrier went to Tennessee. But it was our conservative non innovative old style up the middle bull crap plays that kept Spurrier from coming. I hope every old FOGEY at Neyland gets their money worth this year. I am starting to fume as you can tell. But who is listening?
Posted by waterskier3 on September 15, 2007 at 7:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I SAID IT BEFORE THE GAME AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.... WE ARE A BAD TEAM WITH A LOT OF TALENT.... FIRE ALL OF THEM NOW BEFORE WE LOSE TO KENT AND VANDY IN THE SAME YEAR......
ANYONE KNOW HAMILTONS NUMBER....
VOLNATION WE CAN'T STAND FOR THIS TYPE OF PLAY
Posted by mwellham on September 15, 2007 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A complete embarassment to the whole program! It is time for a change!
Posted by mtnvol on September 15, 2007 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Before we all jump on players (coaches are fair game), you have to admit that TV coverage didn't tell us everything. Did Ainge throw short because Db's were 20 yards off the ball? Couldn't tell from TV. Did we have to go to the 3rd receiver because everyone else was covered? Couldn't tell by TV. Blame the coaches all you want, but give the kids a break.
Posted by cookvol1 on September 15, 2007 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This team,for all the talk in spring and fall about being tough,is about as soft and weak and slow as any Tennessee team I can remember.In 2005,as I have said before,was one of our best Defenses but we couldnt keep them off the field long enough to rest,now we just do NOT have a defense.Its a shame that this team cant get 18 inches on a third down play but we didnt give up a sack,AMAZING,it is time for a complete house cleaning from top to bottom.The talent is there it just needs coached.I didnt have this bad of a feeling in 2005.We got man handled by a YOUNG florida team,they have what 2 or 3 starters back on defense from last year???and we still cant move the ball and after hearing about the conditioning since spring,this team has wilted in the second half against cal and florida.
Posted by footballfan on September 15, 2007 at 7:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Does anyone happen to know if Fulmer is clued in on what the Orange Nation thinks of him? If I was the most hated man around it would be a no brainer for me to find somewhere else to be. How much longer til the bricks start flying through his living room window? I wouldn't want to be the one dealing with drunk (and angry) Vols fans. Better wake up fast fat man, cause it could get pretty uncomfortable for you pretty soon. I am not saying that that kind of behavior is a good thing, but I think it is inevitable that it will happen sometime. I would try to disappear before it started if I could. Just trying to help Phil. Arizona has great retirement homes. Enjoy.
Go Vols.
Posted by RocketVol on September 15, 2007 at 7:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hamilton, start scouting the US for a new coaching staff and let them utilize these new recruits and have them compete in 2 to 3 years - you better act fast - start looking now. If you wait until talent comes here no more - then it will all be over (program gone). The program is now a bottom tier SEC team - wake up fast!
Posted by BEEBEE on September 15, 2007 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Time for Field Goal Phil to retire. Let's hire Bill Cowher, pay him 3 million and win the SEC East in 2009.
Posted by mdvol on September 15, 2007 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Andy, I'm with you man. I'll never be confused with CRVol but it would be easier to defend Michael Vick than Fulmer right now. You guys missed some good bitchin' to go with our whippin' on Josh Ward's gameday blog. No sense holding back now. It's bad. I posted my frustration on the other blog but it goes with the prevailing sentiment.
It has to be as unacceptable to Hamilton as it is to the Big Orange Nation to be used as a doormat on national TV. Twice. BCS style points against us? Give up 59 points? Outrageous. Could have stomached a close loss. A competitive game. Cal and UF are the NUMBER TWO teams in their respective conferences. What "direction" would you say the program is headed?
Posted by dmjohn2 on September 15, 2007 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I’m setting here watching Kentucky and Louisville play and I don't know if ol' Fulmer is going to beat Kentucky, Alabama or Georgia. I don't know who will be the coach next year, but it better not be Phil.
Posted by maddog72 on September 15, 2007 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Who replaces fulmer at coach? Who replaces him when he is fired?
Posted by lamigravol on September 15, 2007 at 7:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Phil Fulmer is the Lloyd Carr of the SEC. Can't beat his rival, is perfectly happy with 8 wins, has embarassing loses to schools they should beat and CAN'T GET FIRED!!!! Why?
Posted by brundlefly on September 15, 2007 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Disgusting...utterly disgusting. Here's the way you show how you feel, fans. Anyone who would pay to watch the Arkansas State game next week is a FOOL. DO NOT BUY THE GAME!! We need to hit this program where it will hurt the most - in their pockets. Obviously, nothing else will work.
Posted by utvol1968 on September 15, 2007 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If Tennessee finishes ahead of Vandy this year it will be a shock!
Posted by olozbal on September 15, 2007 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm with the announcer, we don't have a deep ball threat until Ainge gets healthy. Ainge did the best he could, sit him for the next game to get healthy.
Posted by Basketball_Jones on September 15, 2007 at 8:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Alot of you are saying what I have been saying since 2002. Thats when I gave my season tickets up. Every game we go into we can expect to get outcoached in all aspects of the game, offense-defense-special teams etc we have and always have had the worst coaches in the SEC. So what we won a NC, look at the talent that team had. I mean we had the same talent the year before and had maybe the greatest QB in history of football and got waxed in the Orange Bowl. Please quit Phil, John, David, Trooper and Co. Just resign at the ned of the year....There is a reason Vol fans that other teams don't beat down our doors to interview our coaches either for college or the NFL
Posted by mttallent on September 15, 2007 at 8:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
How long does a coach get to ride the coat tails of a national title? I think 10 years is a little too much. Going into this game I was actually delusional enough to think we had a chance to win. Our record over the last 3 years is enough to convince me that is it is time to bring in a talented and fired up coach to bring us back to a competitive level. I still can not believe I actually thought Tennessee would show up to play and win this game. Well at least we are not Notre Dame.
Posted by winbigvols on September 15, 2007 at 8:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I said for years Fulmer has won with talent. Now he isn't getting all the bluechippers and has to coach, he can't. I have never been a Fulmer fan but how far do we slip before he steps down. You say its not about coaching, has anybody seen the Alabama team, totally different team from last year. ITS ALL ABOUT COACHING!!!!!! Look at Tennessee Basketball team. It was sad to watch, and why is our best player Coker on the side line, either throw him off or let him play. Fulmer hired Cutcliffe because he doesn't want anybody in here smarter than him, he remembers what he did to Majors. Next year looks worse, Crompton looks like a big disappointment. Very sad, watched but couldn't believe how far we have slide. I only see 2 more sure wins, I thought Missippi State would be a sure win but they won at Auburn and we have to go to Mississippi State. Look at it and be objective.
Posted by rkastens on September 15, 2007 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It is indeed time for a change at the top. I too think we do have some talent but it never seems like we get much out of the talent we have. I can't help but wonder if the players have lost faith in their coaches. Let's see what kind of effort they give over the next month. Will we mail in the rest of the season? The kids are talented but it doesn't seem like they are getting any help from the coaches.
Posted by maddog72 on September 15, 2007 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with brundlefly everyone needs to boycott a game because as long as the money is roling in Fulmer is going nowhere.
Posted by indianacurly on September 15, 2007 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Bill Cowher is retired (at 50 yrs old) and 5 hours east on 40!
Posted by Volfan1 on September 15, 2007 at 8:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mtnvol, you are so right. This is not whining. We got beat like a drum. But I live in Florida and have to put up with Gator garbage. So, I have a right to complain about it. Meyer has the personality of a porcupine and has no class to do the things you mentioned.
Fulmer, the clock is ticking and time is running out. We have NEVER recovered from the second half of the 2001 SECCG loss to LSU.
Posted by maddog72 on September 15, 2007 at 8:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think we would need someone more in touch with the college game.
Posted by andy112382 on September 15, 2007 at 8:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
CHRIS PETERSEN
http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArtic...
Boise St. Coach. This guy would be awesome I think. Read his bio, he has set records everywhere he has coached and he proved he could win big bowl games last year. Check him out, I got excited reading about him and thinking of the prospect of him coaching at Tennessee. Surely he could get better talent and pay at Tennessee versus Boise St, and I don't think he wants to make a career move back to his Alma Mater at UC Davis. This would be a smart move I think, heck he is even wearing an orange tie and white shirt in his picture.
Posted by olozbal on September 15, 2007 at 8:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oooh Bill Cowher. Wonder if we have enough cash to lure him out of retirement?
Posted by AllVol on September 15, 2007 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
There have got be be a dozen assistants on real football temas just ready to be the next Urban Meyer. Hamilton got Pearl. Let's see what he can come up with for football. There is absolutely no defending Fulmer anymore. It's OVER!
Posted by Bob2793 on September 15, 2007 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
How about Jon Gruden as next Vol coach?
Posted by abrown on September 15, 2007 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ya know -- that 2005 defense was pretty awesome until the finally wore out down the stretch. Too bad those guys didn't get much time to enjoy it -- they played well. Re coaching change, let's spend the bucks it takes to buy a proven winner, and just get it over with. Forget Gruden, Cowher and pro-style coaches -- lets aget a sharp, intense collegiate motivator type.
Posted by waterskier3 on September 15, 2007 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i posted earlier but this is crazy.... we've been bad for years and now its catching up with us...
FIRE HIM NOW AND LET COACH CUT FINISH THE SEASON AND THEN HIRE SOMEONE FRESH WITH NO TIES TO FULMER OR MAJORS......PLEASE SAVE US FROM THIS
Posted by utwick on September 15, 2007 at 8:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Pitiful defense that put little pressure on Tebow. Tebow ran the ball at ease when everyone in the house knew he would and yet we couldn't stop him. Awful coverage on kickoffs and punts. Why can't we find someone to kick it in the endzone? Pitiful defense (Berry is about the only bright spot). Ainge executed the offense, but with the turnovers and lack of big playmakers cannot hang with the mahority of the SEC teams. Time to p;ay the "speedy" freshmen and Jucos. A big change is needed. We will be lucky to get 6 wins this year.
Posted by andy112382 on September 15, 2007 at 8:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Keep Trooper Taylor, though, with Chris Petersen, that would be a great start to building a staff.
Posted by olozbal on September 15, 2007 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It's coaching. We gave up mid third quarter. I saw it when I was there at Cal, I saw it on TV here. Some blatant give up moments that should cost some folks their starting jobs come film time.
It's so sad, we've got so much potential.
Posted by maddog72 on September 15, 2007 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Heck the way we are playin why not bring back Majors.
Posted by waterskier3 on September 15, 2007 at 8:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ANYONE KNOWS WHERE FULMER LIVES..... I HAVE MONEY TO HELP PAY FOR A MOVING VAN TO BE PARKED IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE..... I'M SERIOUS
Posted by CrankE on September 15, 2007 at 8:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Some random thoughts:
1) When is UT going to admit that they have a problem on special teams? No fewer than two fumbled returns, one punt return for a touchdown. Is it ever going to end?
2) Oscar Meyer, your day is coming. The Florida Gators are without a doubt, the most classless organization that I've ever seen.
3) Totally irrelevant, but I can't understand why Kenny Chesney is wearing a BoSox hat on the sidelines when he's supposedly rooting for UT. Where's the Orange? Maybe Renee Zelweger was right to leave him claiming fraud.
4) I agree with sitting Ainge for a week. Perhaps we could avoid more goofy handoffs. Sigh.
5) I knew we were in trouble when we couldn't make a yard on 3rd and 1 on the ground. Scared of running, running scared.
6) Was it just me, or did the refs give Tebow some great spots tonight? I thought close only counted in horseshoes, but I guess it works if your Florida too. (See J. Gaffney, 2000.)
7) Against two ranked teams this year, we've given up one fumble return for TD and one punt return for TD to each team. 28 points. To those two teams, the Vols surrendered 104 points.
8) It pains me to say this, but Bruce Pearl will probably get more worked up about this loss and do more about it than will Fulmer and company.
9) I'm pretty faithful to Coach Fulmer. He accomplished what he said he would in taking us to the next level. I think it never would have happened without him. However, we didn't expect this to be a round trip ticket. In my opinion, UT below where we were when Fulmer took over. The perennial failure to be brilliant at the basics is all that ails UT. No more than that. It's time for Fulmer to move on. Yeah, the buyout is high, but the salary of a good coach is only going up, while UT's stature only seems to go down the drain. The only thing I can see changing this would be if the Vols somehow pulled a repeat of 1997 with a backdoor entrance to the SEC Championship and a win. But as strong as Florida is and as weak as the rest of the SEC seems to be, I'm not holding my breath for that-much less for next week's game.
Posted by jdoane1964 on September 15, 2007 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
you might not like this but we have a lot of 18 19 20 yr old kids that need our support the Fla game is over I say we support the kids, anything short of this is not acceptable
Posted by GreerVol22 on September 15, 2007 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Q.When is the last time you saw the upper deck of Neyland empty for a home game?
A. Next Weekend.
Its sad that we are probably the third best team in the state of Tennessee at this point. How does that feel Hamilton and all you big time donars?
I'm through bitchin about covering the kick and the damn linebackers being out of position. Chavis done, Fulmer done, Cutcliff...is being out coached by younger minds. I turned the game off at the half...turned out I made a good call. Imagine how many sponsor dollars CBS lost as well. No more TV this year boys and girls.
Fulmer speaks from the locker room....He's being chatty and speaking very fast...sounds embarrased and humiliated.
Posted by BleedOrange on September 15, 2007 at 8:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Several thoughts here:
First lets address the black & white. They didn't cost us the game but...
-punt return for td obvious block in the back & hold
-2 major 3rd downs obvious pass int. on Brown
-first INT-should have been a catch
Having said that. I have always been a realistic fan. I have also been a Fulmer supporter. I don't like the turmoil of changing coaches. Nevertheless, I do not think we can win another SEC championship under Fulmer. I hate to admit it but it is time for a changing of the guard. We will be irrelevant for the next 4 years anyhow. Why not make a change now?
Posted by abrown on September 15, 2007 at 8:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hamilton is a good AD -- I think he'll run a good search, get a good guy, and we'll be good again. It must be someone that can hang with Spurrier, Meyer, and Saban. Heck -- right now I'm concerned to play Kentucky and Vanderbilt.
Posted by RocketVol on September 15, 2007 at 8:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Doormats for 2 games? Hell, I've been watching Tennessee be a doormat for decades! The whippings we've taken from Nebraska, Penn State, Kansas State, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida over and over again...on and on! I'm not boycotting a game - I'm boycotting Tennessee until this is fixed. I'm not spending a dime on football, basketball, track, anything until Fulmer's staff is gone. Game over starting right now. You and I are paying the bill for him to stay - so I'm not paying til they're all gone! Hamilton, count me out.
Posted by chrisw2967 on September 15, 2007 at 8:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by TouchdownTN on September 15, 2007 at 8:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
andy..that is the best you can offer...come on man...you went after TouchddownTN and me (JDCVOLS). We tried to tell you guys that this season was headed for major trouble.
oh wait it was Andy who went after me when I said Fulmer needs to go after the Cal game just because I said winning percentages doesnt win football games and my point they still dont win football games and he was defending Fulmer then and now he is trying to show us web sights of Chris Peterson. wow what a change of heart from 2 weeks ago.
Posted by lamigravol on September 15, 2007 at 8:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Here's the thing; UT will still go 8-4, make a lower bowl game, possibly win, and Fulmer gets to add to his win% and get a slap on the back with a contract extension. It's eight wins for life. I don't understand the kickoff thing either. We're the only team in America that can't cover. They started around the forty every time. Why not squib it or pooch it. Total lack of preperation on the coaches part. Ainge is good, he is just handcuffed by the coaches. UT hasn't thrown downfield since Nash. Thank God Meachem was able to break long ones. The WRs can get deep, but the plays don't allow it. Good call on the Boise State coach. How can we get in ADs ear?
Posted by DSaVol on September 15, 2007 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I have taken more crap in the last 2 plus years from the FOOLMER APOLOGISTS on this site than anybody else on here. So now I ask you - ARE YOU A BELIEVER YET??????????? His ONLY replies are "it was a perfect storm," "there ain't no magic dust," and now an infamous halftime statement that truly showed his genius "we just have to PLAY better!" Well no s**t Yogi! Why don't we coach, recruit, and scheme better while we're at it???? And for the Cutcliffe crowd - well, do ya really think another 40 five yard passes and 17 yards rushing is the stuff of an offensive genius??? Chavis??? Hah - JOKE!! Okay, as pi$$ed off as I am, you can still tell me how right I've been for the last 2+ years! But hey don't worry, seriously, Ark St is on the way and ole Phil can add to all those "winning" stats you guys like to fall back on. Feel good about beating another nobody folks - I'm done til that FAT FOOL IS GONE!
Posted by invisiblekid on September 15, 2007 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Andy, you don't owe anyone an apology, nothing wrong with OD'ing on the kool aid. TDTN, been pretty much in line with your thinking to this point, just wished to hell you had been wrong. That being said, this could get really ugly real quick. If Fulmer has any intentions of keeping his job, this team better put this game behind them immediately and step it up the rest of the year. Right now, any team with a pulse on offense or any semblance of special teams scares me.
Posted by jimmy71 on September 15, 2007 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't know who to blame, Fulmer et al, or Rivals.Com who repeatedly tells us we have top 5 recruiting classes. Our players looked smaller, slower and weaker, not to mention the "fundamental" mental errors...false starts, 6 men on the line, too much time, and Ryan Karl taking ridiculous angles on the ball carrier...Karl looks like he is about half the player he was last year...all in all pretty pathetic day for the Vols.
Posted by bwillard9 on September 15, 2007 at 8:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
it's time for fulmer and the rest of the fast ass staff to go. ALL of them including taylor.He's been on the staff for how long? and the record since Taylor joined?how many recievers can go past 1o yards? Also just 9 more games before the overrated Ainge is gone. What's his record as a starting QB? Good stats but how many wins. If he cant handoff or throw more than 5 yards put his ass on the bench.
Posted by andy112382 on September 15, 2007 at 8:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TouchdownTN, sorry I don't have anything else, that game zapped me big time. But just as I said before the Cal game, I said to hold off the criticism until we actually saw them play but if we started 1-2 I would probally join in, depending on how we looked, and we are just plain embarrassing right now, so I manned up and said ya'll were right and something isn't right and it isn't talent, that only leaves one thing.
Heck, I even went as far as suggesting who I think would be an awesome replacement coach:
Chris Petersen
http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArtic...
He has coached at Pitt, Oregon, Boise St, set records everywhere he coached, went undefeated his first season as head coach, former QB coach, OC, played QB, he is young, not a kid but still young, and all of this with less talent than he could pull in at an SEC school, plus he proved he could win big games by beating Oklahoma. Check out his bio and let me know what you think.
Tell me any other pros or cons you could find about getting Chris Petersen as a head coach.
GO VOLS!!!
Posted by mttallent on September 15, 2007 at 8:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Anyone know the email address for the athletic department? It is truly time the Mr. Hamilton gets an ear full of what cleary does not want to admit. The fact that the football program continues a steady dive to the bottom of the SEC cellar.
Posted by RocketVol on September 15, 2007 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Fulmer was NOT a great coach ever. You watched Manning guide the offense to 4 great years - none of which amounted to even competing for a national title. And 98 was a fluke - I'm convinced now. That year was an NFL loaded team that nearly lost 4 of those games - and should not have beaten Arkansas. I want him out - I'm finished with terrible football, now in every aspect of Tennessee's game. No money to Tennessee til this staff walks.
Posted by olozbal on September 15, 2007 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey guys, I checked. Looks like some weirdos own www.firefulmer.com. So who's buying the site?
Posted by maddog72 on September 15, 2007 at 8:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If you want Hamiltons ear organize and boycott games.
Posted by vanvol on September 15, 2007 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"How long does a coach get to ride the coat tails of a national title?"
I'm a Vol fan residing in Lexington. Using basketball as an example, the answer to mttallent's question is about ten years.
Tubby Smith chose the honorable way out and went to Minnesota. He left because it was obvious to everyone in this state that he couldn't recruit after the late 1990's. Fulmer has lost his energy and momentum on the recruiting trail. Who can deny it? Look at who is playing on Sunday…
It's time for a change
Posted by DSaVol on September 15, 2007 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
HEY JDOANE - NEWS FLASH: We have alot of 18, 19, 20 year kids that need some REAL DAMNED COACHING!!! They have and will always have fan support but their leaders are failing them miserably!
Posted by TurboFan on September 15, 2007 at 8:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
We have talent, just spotty, one here one there. Heffney is a mediocre safety and a bad tackler. Marsalous Johnson couldn't keep up with Harvin but Ryan Karl could? Austin Rogers, trying to avoid the "possession" tag drops three? Coker, our "speedster" gets run down from behind on kick return. Didn't make a difference but didn't help that the zebras don't know what pass interference is. I'm beginning to believe we have been cursed ever since the 2001 SECCG. Oh, BTW, who thinks Randy Sanders made out in this deal?
Posted by GreerVol22 on September 15, 2007 at 8:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
invisible, you still sound like you believe he has a chance...
Posted by jh43 on September 15, 2007 at 8:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If Hamilton is not as embarrassed as the rest of us, then he is as clueless as they are.
Phil Fulmer has allowed the game to pass him by. Cutcliff has gotten all the acolades about being a great offensive coach, but what does he do? He has not imagination at. The Chief seems to as clueless as the others. Add all that to the fact we have all these bluechip players year after year who do not produce, and have about as much enthusiasim as a cow going into a slaughterhouse.
Maybe instead of wasting time at football practice (it certainly hasn't shown that anything is gained there), the coaches and players should have to attend our men's and women's basketball practices. They would see how real coaches coach, and they would see how players on scholarship at UT are expected to perform
These regular embarrassments must end. New blood; new hope; and new life.
Posted by RocketVol on September 15, 2007 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Boycott all men's sports until Hamilton removes these guys. I'm tired of listening to the commentators say "why did Tennessee do that" and "why didn't they do that earlier". I had the pleasure of listening to the UF broadcast thanks to Sirius and I must say they were classy although about to fall out of their chairs. I honestly hope Tennessee loses every remaining game and into next year if need be to get these guys fired. I'm not spending another dime til the product is fixed.
Posted by VolFan_stuck_in_FL on September 15, 2007 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
the worst tackling that i ever saw. defense counldn't of tackled someone on crutches today. and you would have thought that after the first time that tebow took that little jab step forward and then completed a 40 yard pass that fulmer or chavis might have caught but i guess not. i don't think we could have beat Farragut today. something has got to change. i love the vols but enough is enough.
Posted by andy112382 on September 15, 2007 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
chrisw2967, yes is amazing what getting beat by 39 in a game that you should have a real shot at winning can do. You know something is wrong with the team if I join in on the 'something needs to change' chant, this is for sure.
But on that note, I would like to say I would hope the people that have been down on the team before now didn't CELEBRATE being right and rubbing it in, after all I would assume if you are a fan that you would rather be wrong in that instance. But anywho, should be interesting what happens next, that was ugly. Check out the Petersen bio for real, if there was a change he gets my vote unless there is someone who is much more low profile but just as good or better. My first thought was the Troy coach, he has been at Troy for 17 years and an Auburn grad, no thank you. Appl. St coach is a bit older, I think Tennessee should go a younger path, that is where I cam to the conclusion of Petersen and then I read his bio and track record and was sold.
Still a Vol for life! GO VOLS!!!
Posted by mzwickey on September 15, 2007 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
it's time...it's time...been a supporter for fulmer until now....it's time....I know someone said it before....but i think John Gruden....but will he recruit?
Posted by olozbal on September 15, 2007 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
My summary:
- Tebow QB and Meyer coaching beat us big time.
- Ainge's limited ability to throw deep ball makes offense limited. We're good there, critique Ainge all you want and play calling, but if he had a pinky we'd be ok enough there.
- Tennessee special teams suck. They always have. We've just had a kicker good enough to rationalize that "it's not that bad". Now we don't.
- We're too slow to play in the big leagues. Coker doesn't have that step he had before. Maybe some more drugs?
- Discipline. We're not disciplined. And that's coaching. We gave up in the 3rd quarter.
- Defense. When the announcer calls the play that's going to happen that means it's obvious. When we don't that means Chavis lost his mind.
Posted by BIGEJ on September 15, 2007 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What is the answer all this losing? Changing Fulmer, some, all of the staff, letting players go, getting new water in Knoxville; well I am not sure but I am sure it is not ours to decide; the ISSUES ARE Mike Hamilton’s to handle; Mike and staff handled increased VASF, tickets, concessions and many other costs to alumni and fans- NOW Mike needs to earn his pay; find the answer; do his job or his boss needs to handle Mike; I do not want to see people leave but I do not want to see the UT tradition go down the toilet either; basketball and baseball have made big changes; I am watching the Pete Carroll show; and I want to puke………GO VOLS
Posted by andy112382 on September 15, 2007 at 8:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
One last note, you all know me as someone who likes to find a silver lining SOMEWHERE, well I found it in that Notre Dame game, I can't help but to laugh a bit seeing how horrible Notre Dame is, they can't even score an offensive touchdown! And they were supposed to have their answer and coach and QB already, so much for that!
Yea, that is the best I can do for a silver lining right now, but heck, still makes me laugh! Now to fix our team!
Posted by utwick on September 15, 2007 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Fulmer may be a good ole boy, but he cannot lead the Vols any longer. Enough of the aw shucks, this was aw sh*t. If a formal offensive lineman cannot get his linemen to blow someone out so that we can pick up a first down on 3rd and short, then what chance do we have to compete with younger innovative SEC coaches (not to mention Spurrier)? If we can't perform the basics, how can you expect us to break the big yardage plays? H*ll, tackling and catching the ball would be nice.
Posted by yeavols on September 15, 2007 at 8:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
CHRIS PETERSEN- OK I AM IN! HEADLINES=
(AP)Knoxville- After 10 years since the VOLS produced their 1 national championship since the 1950's, it appears another coaching change is in the works. The Tennessee AD has decided to not extend Fulmer's contract. Fulmer will finish the season 5-6 for the second time in 3 years. Rumours have been swirling that Chris Petersen of Boise State has been contacted and negotiations are in the works for his hiring. The VOL nation has been at odds with Fulmer for the last few years and threats of boosters holding out donations seem to have taken its toll. Capitulation appears to be the word of the day and Phil Fulmer will make his last stand this November against a Kentucky team 7-2 in the SEC east standings. A full media announcement will be provided after bowl games and Chris Petersen will be expected to take the job.
Posted by txsvol on September 15, 2007 at 8:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Humiliating! Having said that, I'm for the UT Vols and whoever is coaching them, even Phil Fulmer, and even if they go 1-11. Florida may be as good as they looked against us, but I'm sure that we aren't as bad as we looked today. So, we still have a fair to middling chance of recovering to a winning season--8-4 or even 9-3! If we had have been imaginative enough to have a fly pattern for Eric Berry in the game plan, maybe he could have had two long TDs. When will our punter learn to kick the ball 40 yards and out of bounds? Go Vols! SAVol
Posted by DSaVol on September 15, 2007 at 8:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Andy....laugh at ND if you want but NOBODY with any smarts expected ANYTHING out of them this year. I guarantee you they will win big before TN does!
Posted by cagntn on September 15, 2007 at 8:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Our offence is as predictable as the sun coming up, our deffence just sucks and Fulmer is over on the sidlines clapping his hands when Ainge throws it out of bounds of 4th and 7 what else needs to be said. War Kevin Rhea for head coach in '08!!!!!!!!!
Posted by surfmaster on September 15, 2007 at 8:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I can't believe I thought Tenn could win this game. What in the name of all that's holy was I smoking? I never thought there would be anybody I hate more than Spurrier, but then Meyer comes along with his putting our logo in the urinals, running up the score, etc. I live for the day when he gets his. Zero talent. Zero creativity. No fire in the belly. This is worse than under Majors. It's a sad day when your only playmaker on defense is a true freshman. Hey Cutcliff, how do you like your "slimmed down, mobile o-linemen now"? They just got owned. As sad as this day is, the worst part is that Fulmer & Co. will probably eke out just enough wins against Ark St. & Lou-Lafayette to keep his job another year. Well, could be worse, we could have "Scoreless Jimmy Clausen" under center.
Posted by vanvol on September 15, 2007 at 8:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It all comes down to recruiting...I live out of state but enjoy telling other SEC fans some interesting facts: the 1998 team had how many NFL starters in the backfield? Bryson, Henry, Lewis (injured)....receivers? Price...I'm not even looking this up because it was so memorable. How about the defense...Little, Wilson, Goodrich...where is that calibre of player today at UT? To say nothing of the offensive line that year. Divide that class in half and this year's squad doesn't measure.
Posted by oneeyeddog333 on September 15, 2007 at 8:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
going to retire my orange and white hat till we get a coach that can win some games and put us back in the championship picture
Posted by agentorange on September 15, 2007 at 8:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ls-who is on the clock. my roomie says they got it.
Posted by andy112382 on September 15, 2007 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DSaVol, at least we scored before Notre Dame! I didn't expect them to be good, but I woudl think they might score a touchdown or something!
yeavols - nice, I like it!
Posted by jcvet on September 15, 2007 at 8:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What I would ask our next coach in an interview: 1. Have you ever worked for Phat Phil? Yes? You're out of here! 2. Have you ever talked football with Phat Phil? Yes? You're out of here! 3. Have you ever been in the same room with Phat Phil? Yes? You're out of here! 4. Did you still think Phat Phil could coach after the 93 Alabama debacle? Yes? You're out of here! Have you ever met Phat Phil? Yes? You're out of here! Same for Johnny Majors !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by atlorange on September 15, 2007 at 8:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes, Meyer running up the score and keeping Tebow in late was bad. However, we need to remember that Fulmer did the exact same thing to UGA in 97 keeping Peyton in throwing in the 4th quarter.
Again, I am not giving Meyer a pass. More than anything it was stupid to risk Tebow, but Fulmer has done it.
Posted by mdvol on September 15, 2007 at 8:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Andy - drop the Notre Dame comparisons. It ain't helping.
Posted by invisiblekid on September 15, 2007 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Not really Greer22, figured the comment about being scared by any team with a pulse on offense or a special teams scared me pretty well summed up what I think of our chances. We should have a distinct talent advantage over MS St, ARK St, LA Lafayette, Vandy, and KY which SHOULD translate to some more padding of that winning %. However, GA, SC, Bama, and AR are almost certain losses the way we are playing right now. Games'll be a little closer but they seem adept at finding ways to lose. By my addition, that adds up to 6-6, an embarassing bowl game and Fulmer out the door. I figure if they eek out a couple of more wins, coupled with the million Fulmer dontated , he keeps his job for a year.
Posted by mikeinknoxville on September 15, 2007 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The play calling is what gets me. I see a good bit of talent on our side of the ball. And I see occasional usage of the talent. Occasional usage of good talent will only beat teams of lesser talent or lesser coaching. This team can and has to get better over the next several weeks. No need to go over the areas where we need improvement again and again. My 96 year old dad watched the game with me today and with maculate degeneration setting in, his eyesight is going, but can see well enough to point out to me that we have to get better..thanks dad
Posted by Basketball_Jones on September 15, 2007 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I still like Jimbo Fisher, Bo Pellini or Mike Belotti....I am with DSAVol and always thought he was right. This program has been on the downslide for many years. Too many people out there living in the past. Look at Bama, they dropped a ton of cash on Saban and are getting back in the mix, plus he took a middle of the road program, at LSU and turned them into a National Powerhouse by keeping all those kids from La in La. Florida brought in Meyer at 3mill a year and he has yet to lose to GA, UT or FSU....I have said since we lost to LSU in the SEC Championship game that the Great Pumpkin had to go, gave up my season tickets, boycotted going to games....Now others need to follow and show the school we mean buisness
Posted by ut2lee007 on September 15, 2007 at 8:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
poor game by everyone, even the zebras. there were some terrible no-calls that killed momentum.
the only great thing was seeing how close tebow and his roomie are. always knew that gator was "different". and kenny chesney -- he's "different" too.
go vols.
Posted by spencer1989 on September 15, 2007 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As much as I have loved my Vols over the years and supported them through thick and thin....I see this year as Fulmer's last year. Before the season started, I predicted at least 6 losses. Two of those have already happened. I hate to say it but I see a really heart breaking season headed our way in Knoxville. The sad thing about all this is I think Fulmer has been past his time in coaching. We don't have to think too hard in remembering the embarassing losses in big games on National TV. Other than the 1998 championship game, I just haven't seen where we are ready to play and win in the big games and have the fire and desire to win.
Posted by tennisvol on September 15, 2007 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Can Ainge throw the ball down the field? These short 5 and 10 yard passes and trying to break 5 tackles seems a little old. Ainge throws the ball out of bounds on 4th down. I believe he would throw the ball out of bounds rather than run for the 1st down even if he knew he could pick it up.
Posted by grogpaw on September 15, 2007 at 8:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
How many times have we been told by Fulmer and staff that the offense is just too complicated for our young players to comprehend and therefore our speed demons (Vinson and O'Neal) are capable of playing? Sorry, if Fulmer's offense is so complicated that the young players can't grasp it, then maybe it is too complicated. But how can anyone think Fulmer's offense is complicated? It may be in practice but it sure the hell ain't during the game. Folks, it isn't the players. We have players as good as any. What we have is a piss poor coaching staff that has not kept up with the game. My main fear is that Hamilton will keep giving him another year. Now, if Fulmer really loves the University as much as he says he does, he would retire.
Posted by Gators5920 on September 15, 2007 at 8:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Haw haw haw........FatBoy Phil and his Hillbilly Hayseeds get their jocks kicked by a real coach and a real football team.
The Vols are too fat and too slow to play with the big boys anymore. It was fun watching them drown in The Swamp today.
Rocky Top? Ha ha, how about Rock Bottom?
Posted by DSaVol on September 15, 2007 at 8:55 p.m.
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Posted by jcvet on September 15, 2007 at 8:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
All you crybabies crying about Tebow being left in please shut up. He has less playing time than Crompton. He needs the experience for when they play a real team. It's because of a holes like you that we suk. I bet you all still go to Fulmer coached games.
Posted by jclowers on September 15, 2007 at 8:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This was by far one of the most embarassing days that I have ever been a Tennessee Volunteer fan. Does anyone remember the 1990's? When Tennessee actually won games. Fulmer's biggest problem is that he struggles to beat Florida. Yeah Tebow being in the game late was a pure smack in the face to our team and fans. However, the fact that our first string defense didn't tackle him as he walked into the end zone was an even bigger slap in the face. With our boosters, tradition, location, stadium, and recruits; we could have just about any coach in the NCAA and some from the NFL. Allow Fulmer to "retire" and give us a coach who can actually inspire our players to do more than just ride the expressway to the NFL that we have created. Eventually, if we keep under performing, this expressway is going to stop being there. Give us a coach who can make us proud to be Volunteer fans and gives us a chance to win every game like Fulmer once did before the game passed him by.
Posted by DSaVol on September 15, 2007 at 8:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Memo to Big Mike: Give Phil the million back and see if he'll agree to leave!!!!!!!
Posted by DSaVol on September 15, 2007 at 9:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The scary thing is that Urban Legend still has an incentive for us next year - he didn't get to the 63 that Spurrier laid on Phil's ass!
Posted by Gators5920 on September 15, 2007 at 9:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
<<< With our boosters, tradition, location, stadium, and recruits; we could have just about any coach in the NCAA and some from the NFL. >>>
Yeah, why don't you go after Steve Spurrier?
He knows how to win at The Swamp and in Knoxville, too.
Posted by atlorange on September 15, 2007 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Has anyone been able to listen to the Fulmer comments on utsports.com? Looks like it is being hit hard. Still LOADING for me.
Posted by RocketVol on September 15, 2007 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well, at least we know Florida has played three patsies and it's defense is still untested.
Posted by DSaVol on September 15, 2007 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Gators5920 - congrats on in impressive win. I'll send you a check if it gets that fat f@#$*r fired!
Posted by Handyman on September 15, 2007 at 9:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It hurts me to chime in with the others here, because I've supported Fulmer in previous seasons. This despite seeing him put young men on the field unprepared at the beginning of just about every season. I agree with the post that the league has passed him by. I know he's a decent man, and he's had a nice run. Of course he brought us the NC. However, I expected contenders with the talent we've received in recent years. It's a shame, a shame! The guys couldn't even make it an interesting game today. Many posters above have hit the nail on the head: Coach Fulmer does not instill discipline in his team. Now it's caught up with him.
Posted by texan on September 15, 2007 at 9:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
For all you guys that sneak and buy pay for view the rest of the season and claim you just listened to Bob on the Vol Network...remember where your money is going. Let's all stop supporting this out of control football athletic dept. Otherwise they will not get the message. It is all about money to them. But if you already have tickets go to the game and let them know how you feel. They need to know and know now.
Posted by riverosa on September 15, 2007 at 9:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think we have been embarrased enough, Every year we are suppose to have a top ten recruiting class just to go out and look like an average high school team. Its time for Fulmer and all the coaches to go, get some new blood into the program and get back to Tennesse football and not tennessee foosball
Posted by tennisvol on September 15, 2007 at 9:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Urban Meyer - W-3 L-0 Phil Fulmer W-0 L-3
against ole Phil
Posted by DSaVol on September 15, 2007 at 9:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Will somebody PLEASE TELL ME WHERE OUR BEST FRIEND BUCKFAMA IS TONIGHT????????? Can't wait to hear him rationalize this one! Or maybe ShoalCreekVol will show up? Better yet where are all our preacher buddies? Oh - counseling Philip you say? C'mon all you kool aid drinkers, I know you're probably looking for sharp objects but I want to hear your take on today's events!!!
Posted by RocketVol on September 15, 2007 at 9:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Finish the season hell! It's time to let young talented coaches and their staffs know there's a vacancy in Knoxville and we're looking. I would escort him out the door tomorrow and let Cutcliffe finish the job this year. Start scouting. Sign a new coach with attractive huge signing bonus but outyear incentives to perform or the well dries up.
Posted by andy112382 on September 15, 2007 at 9:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mdvol - I wasn't comparing, learn to read, read all of the posts.
TouchdownTN - you are a m-o-r-o-n. why do you ask if I am still drinking the koolaid, I freakin' joined in and even suggested a replacement, how the freak are you reading into that as I am still sticking up for Fulmer? If I am on kool-aid, I don't know know what the heck you are smokin'.
DSaVol - Read the response to TouchdownTN, why on Gods green earth are you acting like I am on here supporting the coaching? Answer that, apparently you can not read, I SUGGESTED A FREAKIN' REPLACEMENT AND JOINED IN THE COACHING BEING BAD.
Read the posts and think before posting, people, that is all I request, good grief. Unbelievable, I join in saying the coahing isn't cutting it and you still put the exact same responses to my posts as you have before when i was sticking up for them, what do you do? just automatically copy and paste a response without reading???
Posted by DSaVol on September 15, 2007 at 9:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hell RocketVol - that idiot Rick Clausen coached us to a 5-6 record two years ago - let HIM finish the season!
Posted by Gators5920 on September 15, 2007 at 9:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
<<< Hey Gators5920 - congrats on in impressive win. I'll send you a check if it gets that fat f@#$*r fired! >>>
No, no......Keep that old boy around. Keep that old boy around for 20 more years, OK?
Posted by invisiblekid on September 15, 2007 at 9:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
JDC/TDTN, you were a little before my time but I appreciate almost anyone that has donned the Orange. As I said earlier, I have been pretty much in line with you and TDTN's way of thinking, although I thought today's game would have been mildly competitive. Now, any game is a potential loss. I have been posting on here for about 2+ years now and was pretty vocal about the pathetic performance and excuses from '05. Had plenty of other posters argue and attack but I can't recall ever having any problems with Andy. With the increased traffic on here, it's harder to follow nowadays though and I ususally stay out of the pissing contests anyway.
Posted by andy112382 on September 15, 2007 at 9:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DSaVol, are you a Tennessee fan? You sound happy you are right about bad coaching. Most people are either down after a loss or try to figure out a solution, you celebrate Tennessee looking awful, I find that odd. I think TouchdownTN, DSaVol, mdvol are all one person, surely there aren't three people that get that excited when they are right about their team losing.
Posted by jhenson on September 15, 2007 at 9:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
We are now officially a basketball school. Anyone surprised? You shouldn't be. The warning signs have there for years. Fulmer has lost it. No creativity, no fire. Does Florida have better athletes than us? Maybe...but 39 points worth? Not a chance. It's all coaching or lack of it. And don't be mad at Florida. They did what they had to do...they fired Zook and got a REAL coach. Alabama fired Shula and got a real coach. Georgia fired Donnan and got a real coach (yeah Georgia is a little down this year, but they've won a couple of SEC championships since the last tim