Posted by VolFan32 on April 11, 2008 at 12:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As a student this is outrageous. In my 15 years of going to Vol football games I have never seen the student section as low as it was this past year. I can just imagine what it will be like next year. They will loose money on this in the long run I think. Bruce Pearl deserves a raise, but it sucks its going to hit the students

Posted by adamsck on April 11, 2008 at 12:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I love college athletics and the Vols, but stuff like this makes me think we have lost what little of our "way" we still had.

It's a shame it has come to this.

Posted by reg_mza on April 11, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sad part about it is that they'll not lose a dime over it as that student will be replaced with an avid non-student UT Football fan that will pay whatever it takes to see a game. They know that and are sticking it to the students accordingly.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Students don't have pay enough tuition as it is? Going to UT and getting to go to football games for "free" was part of being a student at UT. Obviously, they still have that option at a discounted rate. Alot of students can barely even afford to go to UT much less come up with extra cash for football tickets.

Wasn't this part of the original student activity fee anyway? Make the grandfathered season ticket holders donate (there are more of them than they are students) what everybody else does and getting $90 bucks from every student isn't even an issue.

Posted by jcherrie on April 11, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Most major football schools have charged something for student tickets for the past 20 years or more. I remember having to struggle to pay for college - a combination of loans, scholarship, and part-time jobs. Now I see students with cell phones, cars, spring break trips, video games, and drinking large quantitites of alcohol.

I would agree that students in financial need should receive discounted tickets. But most of the students can afford $15 - even if it cuts into their beer money.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So, you save $15 bucks if you get season tickets as a student? We're talking about students who wait until the last minute on everything. Back in the late 90s I knew some guys that would wait too long to get tickets when they were free. I'd think alot of students would go on game to game basis, so the football team better be playing well or games vs. Northern Illinois, Wyoming, UK after Thanksgiving are going to be lightly attended. I realize Hamilton and the UT AD is probably thinking that they can take the unused ticket student ticket allotment and sell them at face value so all I can say is good luck with that. I've never been able to sell ULL, Wyoming, HC game, Vandy/UK for face value. Sometimes I can't even give them away.

I also love how they decided to do this without coming up with a ticket distribution or seating plan.

Posted by Silent_Fulmer on April 11, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good Luck getting students to show up now. More than a $15 discount on season tickets would have been a better route to make students buy them.

Students wait till the last minute on stuff, Nobody will be going to the UNI or Wyoming games now. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by spam247buster on April 11, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Everyone gets to pay for the club seat project going over budget. That stinks, Mike Hamiltons&Franklins.
However, I think that something should be done about too many student tickets being allocated for the "lower tier" games (UK, Vandy, & mid-major opponents). It's shameful when the emptiest part of Neyland Stadium is section D.

Posted by vols1986 on April 11, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Hamilton - you stink, you think they are going to show up. If I was part of the student body government - I will boycott the game and leave that section empty...
BOYCOTT - BOYCOTT - BOYCOTT THE HOME GAMES.
let's see what Hamilton will do..

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, $10,000 in tuition for students nowadays is a free ride. I am quite sure that a student who can't afford season tickets (and there are alot of them) will be more likely to become a VASF donor in the future if they don't experience Neyland Stadium as a student, right Hamilton?

Posted by DCSOvol on April 11, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a really bad idea motivated by greed. Stick to the people that you are trying to represent on the athletic field. And people wonder why negativity exists toward the current athletic leadership. I just cancelled my season ticket and my VASF donation. Hope more people follow suit. Until Mike Hamilton is gone, I will not spend another dime on UT athletics. Maybe I'll start watching my hometown Blue Raiders. At least they still know how to treat their students.

Posted by jlight on April 11, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'll preface by saying I'm a senior now and will be attending grad school at UT this fall.

It's bad enough they raise tuition every year while financial aid disappears at the same rate. Part of that is UT's doing, and part of it is the fact the state of Tennessee couldn't give a damn about higher education. So to compare it to other SEC schools is bogus.

I don't know if I'll be attending many games next year or not, but I'll guarantee when the day comes that I have kids and they're ready to start college, they will not be attending this university or any in the state. I'm jaded to the brink at this point.

Posted by Ironcity on April 11, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Been gone a long time but this just doesn't seem right. If there is a shortfall in the budget after doubling attendence in basketball and raising ticket prices yet again in football, then something smells in K town.

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My prediction... The true student-Vols fans don't mind a $90 fee, but the new system better allow for students to sit with their other student-friends and they better make the seat section and row known before the student pays for the ticket (although I'd pay $15 for a ticket to any game in any seat in Neyland - but it's likely that I don't represent the average student fan).

After one season, Hamilton will do what he did with basketball tickets - he will say "only 5,000 students on average attending games last year, so we're going to take the remaining seats and sell them to the public". Can you blame him?

Posted by missrvrvol on April 11, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I personally have no problem with this. Many a Sat I have witnessed a few students selling there tix on the street to people who did not know they could not use them without an ID.

Posted by amyslins on April 11, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, I am replying as a graduate and a person that has worked directly with other SEC schools.

Other SEC schools have been doing this for many years. When I would mention that as a student, we got our tickets for free, they were all stunned. I personally knew this was coming and I am surprised I was able to graduate before this happened. I do not see the issue with this as $90 is not a big price. As other schools charge full price for students and will not even let freshmen into the games.

For those of you that are saying boycott and that you might not go to games next fall: go ahead and show your true colors. This will as well weed out those idiots that go to games just because it is something to do. I would rather have a student section of TRUE VOL FANS than a section of idiots who do not know the different between a field goal and a scored basket in basketball.

Get over yourself, this is life. Either you are a true fan or you are a fan just because something free was given to you.

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 12:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

missrvrvol, Do you think the new system will stop that from happening?

Posted by jlight on April 11, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Missrvrvol, there are always a few bad apples in a group of thousands.

Personally, $90 is not cheap for a student. When you have to pay rent, internet/cable, & the electric bill, on top of food and other necessities, that's a lot of money because not everyone can take on a job & take work seriously. Then again, that's coming from personal experience, which sees me work on actual schoolwork an average of three to five hours per night. I'm not the norm obviously.

Posted by Hacksaw57 on April 11, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They pay twice that much for booze tailgating before even GOING to the game, much less what is spent
on after-game parties.
By the way- it used to be that “tail-gating” had a totally different meaning back when I went to school!

Posted by TommyJack on April 11, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tuff beans. Less screaming F-bombs. Less puke piles. That's a bad thing?

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 12:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

amyslins,

I agree with you more on this topic, but it really depends on how the logistics of distribution for the students. When changes were made for student tickets to basketball games, the SGA did a horrible job securing all of the orginal student seating at TBowl Arena. The students deserved to lose a number of seats (since their attendance was low, resulting in empty seats the year before), but they did NOT deserve to lose the seats in the better sections. Basically what happened was Hamilton said "students aren't using all of their seats so we're cutting back their allotment". Well that's fine, but he ended up cutting one of the best sections to watch the game (upper deck midcourt) and gave those tickets to the public. So true fans like me were negatively impacted by other students who didn't show up to the game.

If the student section does not fill up this season, Hamilton should allow the public to purchase the empty seats. HOWEVER, he should NOT take away the "good seats" from the students and give them to the public. That's taking it too far.

Posted by alfrizzle097 on April 11, 2008 at 12:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I won't be going anymore. I just don't have 15 bucks to spend on every game. I'm not in financial need, I just am not going to drop 100 dollars a year on attending the football games.

I love UT football and would love to be there, but they sure as hell better give the students seats that are actually in the lower deck this year.

Posted by bigbluevol on April 11, 2008 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'll take any leftovers for $90/season.

Posted by bigbluevol on April 11, 2008 at 12:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ, you're right about that. I have sat in or near the student section twice in the last two years and the language and behavior left something to be desired.

Posted by BOASoldier on April 11, 2008 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jlight, come on now. when did cable tv become a necessity and doesn't the school have computer labs for internet use. Not saying they are nice to have and all but Necessities? and I agree with hacksaw... walk down the strip after a game and see the number of students getting tore up at the local clubs and bars. I will bet you they pay a lot more than $15 a weekend on alcohol. A good deal of them just call mom and dad up on monday and ask for a fund transfer into their account. If students can eat PB&J all week to go out partying on thursday night and saturday then they can save 15 dollars for home games.

Posted by jlight on April 11, 2008 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, and most of that language is from druken frat boys who will continue to come to the games and act the same way. If they can afford thousands in dues to a frat, they can afford $90 for football games. Rotten student behavior will never change because many college students are immature.

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The major kicker for me as a student will be where my seats are and whether it will be one seat for all seven games or if I will get a random draw for seats and get some good seats and some bad seats, depending on the game. Obviously, there are benefits to both options. Hopefully the SGA will come up with a fair distribution process.

Posted by VolJoe on April 11, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Great, My 5th year at UT and now I have to pay for tickets...
I guess it does not really matter, I have gone to every single game in my college career, and that wont change.
It basically amounts to a tuition hike for a lot of students, it has happened every year that I have been at UT.
I guess this signals the end for the Orange Nation (which I am not a member). I cant imagine people paying for Orange Nation when they have to pay for tickets now. If every student has to pay for tickets, it will really add credence to the old argument against the ON getting the best seats.

Posted by Silent_Fulmer on April 11, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Less Students - More Grandpa's to sit in the student section on there hands!!!!!!

Posted by chrslyp on April 11, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

the tickets were never "free" we all paid for our tickets, they were included in our "activity fee" which was included in the tuition. i don't like it either, but $90.00 isn't that bad, most of the students blow that much on a good weekend of partying. i know i did.

Posted by imjustafan on April 11, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't believe that they have to make the students pay. Did they not just receive some $130 odd million dollars for the athletic department? Let the students in free! It's part of what helps making TN different. Less students means less fans which means even more of a poor "12th man". GO VOLS!

Posted by jlight on April 11, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BOA, I'll be a grad student. Therefore, I won't live on campus and can't use their network anymore. The Internet is a necessity these days too, especially for a serious college student who's not barely getting by with C's & D's. And while I don't watch television more than probably three-six hours per week, I'd say it is a good thing to have to stay informed about the world. Especially with local channels soon to be broadcast in digital, and me not having a television that would receive the signals without a box.

Also, the stereotyping of all college students as out of control drunks is ridiculous. The majority of people I know are nothing like that.

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

chrslyp is right, before it was almost like income redistribution - the entire student body paid an activities fee that capitalized football ticket prices in it. now, UT has moved to more of a "benefits view" where you pay for what you get.

interestingly, in my time living in tennessee, it seems like the majority of tennesseans are for the "benefits view" through their tax system preferences (just look at the structure - there is no personal income tax, but we tax the heck out of consumption!).

my point is - isn't this what the average tennessean wants? a system where the person who benefits from the activity actually pays for it?

Posted by VOLS85 on April 11, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

These mirror policies at SOME other sec institutions, however, there is now only one other school in the SEC that charges more than UT, and that's Auburn. Yes, Florida, LSU, and Georgia all charge less. South Carolina and Vandy do not charge...seeing as we're #1 in attendance and #2 in basketball attendance, I'm a little confused on this one. Could it go to pay for pearl's new contract? I don't know, but you're not encouraging us to contribute money in the future if we have to pay for the experience as students...I bet the VASF is not entirely happy about this, and neither is the SGA. Very odd that they didn't consult with the STUDENT GOVERNMENT before making this decision, and the president has stated that he is quite upset about such.

Posted by TommyJack on April 11, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PearlFUT: And you point is??

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Make the grandfathered season ticket holders pay their fair share to get their season tickets as well. Sure they are long time season ticket holders but students have been their getting "free" tickets for alot longer than the grandfathered season ticket holders have been.

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jlight, i'm a graduate student now and most of my friends are nothing like the stereotypes on here either. plus, it's not like the students who are annoying are going to stop going to the games because it costs money now - last time i checked, maturity levels and income aren't very correlated among college students...

Posted by jlight on April 11, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If anyone thinks this will actually result in our activities fee dropping, you're crazy.

Posted by amyslins on April 11, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

seriously folks...get over your greedy selves. if any of you do not want to purchase, then don't. watch it on tv, radio, your computer, i do not care. i would rather have a student section filled with actual fans. and, as for limiting the 12th man....have you actually attended a game before??? because no matter how many people are in the student section, the stadium is going crazy

Posted by Orangeblood13 on April 11, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Most of these posts I see are laughable. 90 bucks isn't that much gimmie a break. But, if season ticket holders like myself, have to pay a ticket increase every year, I say THEY NEED TO PUT A BETTER PRODUCT ON THE FIELD. Basketball is winning, mena and women, makes sence. No matter how you spin it, we backed into a SEC champ game last year. Then the arrests and bs starts and they want the fans to fork money out? Come on, I will go no matter wwhat, for the love of the Orange, but if your gona raise prices every year, then how bout a top 100 recruit or a team with a little gumpshin? WE NEED A BETTER PRODUCT THAN THE PAST FEW YEARS.

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jlight, good point - the activities fee is going to be the same, but my point was that they could have increased that further instead of implementing the new system, resulting in a larger base of individuals paying for an activity that only those who attend can really benefit from.

Posted by whenson on April 11, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is sad. Going to football games for free at UT was what made most students feel like a part of UT. You would spend the week studying and trudging through class, but you knew for 5-6 Saturdays, you would be immensed in orange and feel like a Vol. When you graduated, you wanted to keep that feeling and didn't mind paying for it because you wanted to give back, now how do you think those students will feel? If they feel taken advantage of as a student, they will be ready to get out of Knoxville and watch the games on TV when they graduate.

Posted by agentorange on April 11, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BS student tix were free. from 94-98, we paid a student activities fee that covered the tix.

so only the middle and upper class students can go to UT game? how are they supposed to afford beer, drugs and condoms plus football tix? how stupid will it look when our student section is half empty!? they are the only ones who do anything during the damn games too. the rest of the dinosaurs in the crowd sit on their hands.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry, but some students who go to school on scholarship, on student loans, who's family are poor, etc. do not have the extra money to pay $90.00 for football tickets.

That was part of the experience that eveyone could partake in if you wanted to regardless of background. This just prices those students out.

Posted by adimatteo on April 11, 2008 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That is toobad, seems that many of us alumni, spend much money on donations, merchandise, etc, we pay alot, and dont question prices because its for the school.
Surely, whatever sum of money could be taken in from this,could be made up elsewhere. Many of us have no problem helping to support the school, in many ways, I do, and I have a daughter starting next fall, and would hope she would get to go to games for free, just as much out of principal.I could afford it, as she is out of state, but many kids have tight budgets, I was one years ago.

Tournaments, bowls, etc, are for us alimni,who can afford tickets, travel, etc., the one thing our students have is being able to at least attend home regular season games, that should not change...

Posted by agentorange on April 11, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

anyone who thinks less COLLEGE STUDENTS at COLLEGE FOOTBALL GAMES played by COLLEGE STUDENTS is a good thing, is RETARDED. RE-EFFING-TARDED. I hear Hamilton is going to make players pay to get into games next. He reasons that since UT gives such a great opportunity for them to get to the NFL, and since we need the money, players should have to buy a ticket to play and will no longer be given scholarships at all.

Posted by TVolFan on April 11, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bigbluevol: I agree with you, I'll take a ticket for all 2008 season home games for $90...what a deal!!! If you bought a single ticket to all home games during the 2007 season, it was $320..again, what a deal!!!!

Posted by TommyJack on April 11, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Agent: 1. All "dinosaurs" don't sit on their hands. 2. So what if they do? 3. Are you the one that decides how fans should perform at games? 4. Unless they no longer teach discretionary spending in econ101, the students that want to see the game (as opposed to those that want to BE seen) will find a way.

Posted by rockyknox on April 11, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess our kids will have to take one less course in the fall semester. The savings on tuition will be used to pay for the football tickets. After all, why do you think our kids go to UT? :-(

Posted by LazhilUT on April 11, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice Mr. Hamilton. Will that give us a National Championship? Will that give us an SEC Championship? I mean, if you need money and that is an issue are we gonna start bribing refs and other teams' players?
Well, they're making their bed...if this season is a bust...the student body will roar and we'll see if Fulmer and whoever else won't get canned.
$90...weren't the tickets included in the Activity Fee? Or how about the Maintenance Fee? Or the technology fee? Or the Big Orange Screw fee? Or the We Don't Care About Our Students Fee? Or the Show Me The Money Fee? Or the We Think Our Students Are Dumb Fee?

Posted by VolCane7979 on April 11, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IF THIS GOES TO PAY PEARL, A-OK. OTHERWISE, TAKE YOUR TICKET HIKE AND SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE, MIKE HAMBONE.

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 1:49 p.m.

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Posted by orangeblood on April 11, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

that's isn't a 15 dollar discount. It's about a 200 dollar discount for a single seat, and about a 1,200 dollar discount including the vasf donation. I'll happily pay it bc there's no more missing class to wait in line and no more having to worry about paying 100 dollars to see the florida game if i didn't wait in line for it. good move ham

Posted by fortandrews on April 11, 2008 at 1:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Salary increase for Fulmer & Pearl - What about the REAL COACH: Pat Summit.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Funny how you left out the 250.00 student activities fee that is assessed each semester, including the mini-term and summer sessions:

From UTK.edu

Programs and Services Fee
Students registered for classes at UTK must pay a Programs and Services Fee of $18.00 per hour ($250.00 maximum). This fee is used to pay for costs related to several UTK facilities including the Aquatics Center and the UC as well as Student Health Services, student activities and publications, the Student Government Association, and athletic tickets. Some programs and services are available only to students paying the full-time fee and others are available to all students. Part-time students (taking at least 6 hours) who are seeking athletic tickets must pay the full-time fee. Questions should be addressed to the Dean of Students Office.

Not to mention the fact that if you ever want to sit close, hey 40.00 for the Orange Nation.

Posted by threehundredbowler on April 11, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

workinglikeheck,why would you care if they charge students for tickets?You hate the football team and anything associated with it.You are one pittiful individual.Please do us all a favor and crawl into a hole somewhere and do not forget to pull the dirt in over you.

Posted by Hotllama2 on April 11, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I attended UT for four years and paid out of state tuition to do so. This is an outrage. The student activity fee was designed to pay for "student activities," such as football and basketball games. Ridiculous. Like the SEC tournament fiasco, I guarantee that the university will get "cute" with their student ticket policies in order to maximize their revenues. IF the tickets are transferrable or they are treated like regular football tickets, then this may be ok for the students who want to resell their tickets to make some money on the side. After all, isn't this analogous to paying twice for their tickets? My gut feeling is that the university will still require the presentation of a student ID in conjunction with the "special" ticket in order to enter. I love the University of Tennessee, but I don't like feeling that they are sticking it to us every chance they get.

Posted by keithswafford on April 11, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

the orange nation is a stupid idea but at the same time i hate the student section. sorry if i offend a few of u current students but i hate to see my favorite state institution represented by plain out jackassery. i can remember a game back in 03 where GA was killing us at home, and anyone who had any sense had already left. needless to say i was still sitting in the stands.
The JumboTron then displayed the student section which was having the time of their lives(drunk) down 41-14.
And no, VolGraduate, those orange polo shirt wearing Abercrombie cologne smellin' jack daniels drinking low life frat boys wont be employing anyone in the near future except the bursars office after the flushed another semester of mommy and daddies money down the toilet

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 2:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why do I care? Because it's ridiculous to charge students at UT-K that pay tuition and student activities fee ($250 per semester) that includes athletic tickets already $90.00 extra dollars. Some college students can't afford that and at UT this was something that all UT students could partake in if they wanted to do without weighing it's cost. Take the money from the grandfathered tickets holders who are not paying a donation for their seats like the people in the VASF do before you go ask the students for more money. Why do you care that I care?

Posted by jerrywroberts on April 11, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Unless we win every game (that's not going to happen) the attendance is going to start to drop greatly especially in the non-conference games. I have been a season ticket holder for 28 years and am now retired. I have to pick and choose what games to go to because of all the price increases, gas, tickets, parking, motel, food. A football weekend with just one night motel cost me over $300 dollars and my guess is that the biggest majority of fans are old poor country boys like myself that has to dig and scratch for everything. I don't know how much longer the Roberts's can keep up with the Jones's

Posted by JWilly on April 11, 2008 at 2:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why does UT have an athletic budget shortfall? FB team played in a bowl game=$; men's Basketball team in late round of NCAA tournament=$; Women's B-ball team, national champs=$; SEC TV contracts in FB and Bball=$; huge FB stadium=$; huge bball arena=$; all kinds of forced donations =$. I am curious how many other SEC schools with anywhere near the overall athletic programs as UT fare financially. This stinks!

Posted by pilotinspektor on April 11, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The BIG ORANGE SCREW strikes again! I loved the fact that sports tickets were part of student activity fees. I question if student IDs will still be scanned for these tickets. If the are not, it will promote students to scalp their tickets which is horrible. College football is for the college student first.

For those of you who hate the student section either never attended UT or are prudes. I loved the sitting in the crazy student section during my days at UT. It makes the game more fun. It took me several seasons after graduation to get use to the boring sections of the stadium.

I did not renew my season tickets this year. The price keeps going up and it is no longer worth it to me. It is cheaper for me to buy my tickets on the street or eBay, unless UT has an outstanding year. UT has way to many fair weather fans that will sell their tickets cheap when the season is average.

Posted by keithswafford on April 11, 2008 at 2:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i wouldn't say fair weather fans... i would say economic fans

Posted by Kwitcherbellyachin on April 11, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Many a Sat I have witnessed a few students selling there tix on the street to people who did not know they could not use them without an ID."

Now, I don't know how it is in 2008, but in 1987-1996, you could easily go to Gate 10, Gate 24, or any of the gates facing campus and gain entry on a student ticket. I used to get 8 tickets for each game and take my friends who were not UTK students. Not one time were they turned away for not having student IDs.

Posted by Singaporehillbilly on April 11, 2008 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Most schools charge for students to attend athletic events. It is included in the tuition charges, identifed as an activities fee, and the student has no choice put to pay, even if they do not attend the events.

Posted by TommyJack on April 11, 2008 at 2:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

volgrad: 1:49 What a disgusting post. That's EXACTLY the kind of behavior I would expect from a spoiled, insulated, frat boy. You must be a very recent grad. Check back in a few years.

Posted by General_Watermelon on April 11, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Been out of UT for many years. Does not impact my old butt. The heck with today's students. Anything to hold down the alumni ticket prices is a good thing.

Fritter Logic

Posted by CubanBornVol on April 11, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Being a double UT Grad, from out of state, and season ticket holder since the 70's and yes still giving because I want too, I don't have a problem with this. Through my wife's side of the family our youngest was a 5th generation UT grad back in the 90's, again out of state. She went to UT from out of state for less than $1,000 dollars diffrence in total cost to that of the University of Missouri in state. No lottery scholarships around. The University provides an excellent education and great sports programs for much less than most state schools. I firmly believe that you get what you pay for, but on this I think the citizens of Tennessee and the students of The University of Tennessee have being getting a great deal. Things cost more. You must pay more. You want championships they cost. And Football is the animal carrying the load. For all of you griping what was your pay check 10 years ago and what is it now? For most I would think it is from somewhat to a lot more. LET'S GO ORANGE and if you don't want to pay it's free on TV and their will be someone else to take the seat. It's still a seller's market for tickets.

Posted by General_Watermelon on April 11, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VolGraduate - or in some ditch somewhere with a wine bottle. Reference druken frat boy comment.

Posted by Basketball_Jones on April 11, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think this is a bunch of BS....I really believe and have said this for years that The University of Tennessee has become more about the all mighty donors and not the true fans. It's become so corporate that the true fan who can barely afford to go to a game gets left out.

Do you Notre Dame doesn't have season tickets? They sell tickets on a game by game basis. It gives the average fan a better opportunity to go.

I quit going to games and now watch them on my 62" LCD Flat Screen. Every year it's the same ole song and dance, "well we need to raise prices of tickets, hotdogs, drinks etc" to pay for renovations. So unless you have a combined income of $125,000 a year there's a good chance you can't afford to attend games anyway, since you probably haven't made a donation to the VASF.

Maybe if they'd quit feeding the athletes lobster and steak every night at Gibbs then they wouldn't need to do this. I feel sory for the kids who can't go to the games now because of the $$$$. It's a shame they'll never get the opportunity to sneak a bottle of JD in to a game and have a few cocktails throughtout. Hey hit the strip its a better atmosphere anyway and you probably won't run in to your grandparents like you might at a football game.

Posted by General_Watermelon on April 11, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WorkinLikeHeck - lighten up Francis.

Posted by General_Watermelon on April 11, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Heh Basketball_Jones, money talks and BS walks.

Posted by General_Watermelon on April 11, 2008 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Basketball_Jones - we could care less what Notre Dummies do.

Posted by BOASoldier on April 11, 2008 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's amazing that VolGraduate spells geniuses with an "o". Maybe since you're a fan of the fratboys you can get one or two of your paid for "brothers" to provide you with tutoring.

Posted by volboy81 on April 11, 2008 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UT is very proud of the fact that they've never used any state or tax payer money for anything to do with athletics. I say its time to start!

Posted by General_Watermelon on April 11, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Stick it to the little man I say.

Republican and proud of it. If it were not for Republicans, The U.S. would behind the rest of the world.

Posted by scvols on April 11, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is just sad!

Posted by General_Watermelon on April 11, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Salute BOA!

Posted by BOASoldier on April 11, 2008 at 3:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Salute Fritters ... THEEEEEYYYYYY'RRRREEEE GGGGRRRREEAAAATTT!

Posted by 99gator on April 11, 2008 at 3:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

if a student can find 15 bucks for some beer.....i'm sure they can find 15 for the football ticket.

let's not go crazy with how outrageous this is.

you can't get a half a tank of gas for $15. yet, someone can pay $15 for the florida-tenn game. time to become resourceful. how bad do you want it?

you can probably beg on the street for an hour and come up with $15.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 3:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ashley, please tell me where I have contradicted myself? I won't be waiting around for attempt at an answer.

To all the people out there that are complaining about the fraternities, fats, etc. it should be noted that they make up what 1,000 or students out of what 21,000 undergraduates (5% of the rest of the stusents).

Sounds like keithswafford got blackballed and goatridden.

Posted by GreerVol22 on April 11, 2008 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Fritter, thank God for Capitalism.

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 3:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We'll see how responsive the student body is to a change in price. I would guess they aren't very responsive at all.

Smokers get really upset when taxes increase in cigarrettes, but they continue to smoke.

You can whine all you want about equity, but no one is forcing you to go to a football game.

I'm a grad student and I'm willing to eat a few extra PB&J's to see the big orange play.

As one of my buddies suggested, maybe this will actually increase the attendance since there won't be any students who make the effortless task of picking up a ticket just in case they feel like going to the game on Saturday only to find out that their neighbor got the new Guitar Hero, resulting in a Saturday full of video games and another empty seat in the student section.

Posted by volroadwarrior on April 11, 2008 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wahhhhh, Wahhhh. Wait a few years until you have to pay the Obama taxes while trying to raise a family. Now volBOY wants the state taxpayers to subsidize his entertainment on the football weekend. Typical for a person who has depended on others all his life for everything. A rude awakening awaits when a young person hits the real world.

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 3:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tommyjakc, kswafford, gen frit, boasolder, others who like to generalize and stereotype:

the "frat boys" you refer to run the university, a large number of the companies in the US and actually run the actual country. do a little research and you will see what i'm talking about.

just b/c a college student gets drunk on saturday, yells and acts like a complete a$$ doesn't mean his life will amount to nothing. getting drunk on gameday and yelling for your team does not equate to a life of failure. according to yalls logic if you dont get drunk at football games you will be successful.

whatever, i guess the bitterness of being social pirriahs, like yourselves, linger on into old age.

Posted by Phowell23 on April 11, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't believe TN lasted this long before charging students for tickets. Down here in New Orleans I told some LSU students a few months ago that UT students get their football tickets for free and they were stunned.

Posted by powellvoter on April 11, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Take the stinking frat's beer money and they'll have a windfall for their budget.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ashley, don't kid yourself. You won't do it because you can't. I do like it when you talk dirty to me though. Keep it up.

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

U.S. Presidents Who Are/Were Fraternity Members

George Bush
William McKinley
Ronald Reagan
Benjamin Harrison
Gerald Ford
Grover Cleveland
John F. Kennedy
Chester Arthur
Dwight D. Eisenhower
James Garfield
Harry Truman
Rutherford B. Hayes
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Franklin Pierce
Calvin Coolidge
Martin Van Buren
Warren G. Harding
James Polk
Woodrow Wilson
John Quincy Adams
William Howard Taft
Thomas Jefferson
Theodore Roosevelt
John Adams

In addition, 17 U.S. vice presidents were fraternity members.

more to come...

Posted by invisiblekid on April 11, 2008 at 3:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can see merit in both sides of the debate. 15 $ per game is something that the majority of students can handle if they really want to see the games. However, all students are already paying for those tickets in that 250.00$ activity fee so they are getting hit twice.

Personally, I believe that any budget shortfalls can be handled easily by those 414 East Club members without making a blip in their bottom line. In attending games last year, I did notice that those seats seemed to be a priority in the rennovations over silly things like working toilets and towel dispensers in the bathrooms. The new LED signs were really nice too, I am sure they can bump up the advertisement and squeeze some more money out of those as well.

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 3:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i'm still confused - why do frat boys have anything to do with this? is there some characteristic about frat boys that is correlated with the implementation of this new ticket distribution policy? from my experiences with students in greek life, there are both wealthy and not-so-wealthy frat boys (similar distribution to the rest of the student body). so whether you like frats or don't, what does it matter with regards to their attendance at the football games in 08?

Posted by BOASoldier on April 11, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VolGraduate.... in all honesty.... Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah. Actually the highest paid CEO in the nation was a college drop out and a geek. Bill Gates as far as the others who are "frat boys" the frats that they were in back in the day were about service to the community and leadership not seeing how many golf balls your girl could fit in her mouth while humming "here comes the bride" (10 by the way... just yours... don't know about anyone else's). I have no problem with someone getting drunk and stupid. I don't know anyone who didn't. I just hate cocky bastards that pay for their friends and claim "brotherhood" when they start a fight with someone who is about to stomp a mud hole in them. I ran with rugby players, we drank all the time. Just didn't claim to be great cause mom and dad had money.

Posted by LadyVolsEighTimes on April 11, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Do any of you know what it costs the "Grandpa's and Granny's" you like to bust on for Season TIckets? It is a serious chunk of change, and without them you can blow off having a football team, or Neyland Maintenance and Improvements.

Basketball pretty well pays its on way and then some, however we have sports that are nothing more than money holes at UT. Remeber UT athletics has to fund itself through tickets, contributions and fees, it gets no money from the state.

Soccer, Rowing and Aquatics are not exactly generating money from tickets, Track and Field and Cross COuntry reall costs, and the Gold program is a total money hog.

Take into account what those cost and you can understand where the money is going.

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

invisiblekid, the east club members surely have a ton of cash, and losing $90 to them isn't nearly as damaging as a student losing $90... but is a football stadium a place to implement a progressive price structure where the relatively wealthy pay for the not-so-wealthy? i thought tennessee was a red state...

Posted by Homermoosevols on April 11, 2008 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First of all, for all of those people saying that this isn't a big deal; you must not be a current student. This is a big deal. Just because YOU can afford it doesn't mean the average student can. As a former average student, I wouldn't have been able to afford this and I wasn't blowing my money on booze,etc. every weekend. I grew up from the humblest beginnings. I had to earn a scholarship to come here. I worked two jobs (one at the YMCA as a referee and the second as a groundskeep at a local golf course) and I could barely afford to pay my rent, my car payment, my car insurance, my food, my clothing, my gas, etc. This might not be handicapping the majority of UT's student body but it will handicap some. Do I think this is right? I don't think so, but who am I? I was just an average UT student who enjoyed going to UT football games to escape some of my daily stresses and responsibilities. To those students in a similar situation, I understand and wish the best of luck.

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bshone:

exactly. being in a fraternity doesn't factor into the equation. some people on here want to take cheap shots against fraternities for whatever personal vendetta they have against them....

it's pathetic and weak to stereotype...i guess that being shunned so early in life leaves a lasting wound that can only be healed by cheap shots on a newspaper website...

Posted by LadyVolsEighTimes on April 11, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ike went to West Point didn't he? Army has no Frats

Posted by BOASoldier on April 11, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Presidents who were in Frats that were (at the time) denoted by their service to the community not by their wrap sheet at the local police office. Keep trying though Nancy the sh@t they have you all remember to defend the stupidity of your "brothers" is great... I love hearing it.

Gerald Ford
Grover Cleveland
John F. Kennedy
Chester Arthur
Dwight D. Eisenhower
James Garfield
Harry Truman
Rutherford B. Hayes
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Franklin Pierce
Calvin Coolidge
Martin Van Buren
Warren G. Harding
James Polk
Woodrow Wilson
John Quincy Adams
William Howard Taft
Thomas Jefferson
Theodore Roosevelt
John Adams

Posted by tigervol9802 on April 11, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I called it 5 years ago when the Big Orange Nation started.

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

homermoosevols, a football game isn't equivalent to rent, car payments, food, or clothing - it's a luxury. also, no one is forcing students to go to the games.

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BOA...

yeah i probably kicked you and your boyfriends a$$ one night outside of OCI...rugby players are and will forever be the lowest on the UT social hierarchy...even below the band

now I know why you are so bitter...go roll around in some mud with some of your meathead friends

Posted by tigervol9802 on April 11, 2008 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just wait guys, the Fulmer raise is on the horizon. I will be shocked if he doesn't get bumped up before the start of the season.

Posted by invisiblekid on April 11, 2008 at 3:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Volgraduate, did you ever consider that making a classless reference to the females in others lives has something to do with your fellow posters being upset? This as opposed to the supposed merits of fraternities and the staus of former fraternity members?

Posted by 99gator on April 11, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

volgrad and bshone:

i have no problem with fraternities or sororoties or their members.

but, fraternities and soroties have dues. those dues probably make the $90 pale in comparison.

i was a student at florida, and not too long ago, and i was not raised with a silver spoon in my mouth.

at florida, we paid for football tickets and basketball tickets. since billy d came to uf, students have not had to pay for tix (he wanted rowdies who would camp out like they do at duke)

every student has some amount of money they spend for fun. going to a club, cover charge and drinks, road trips, spring break, whatever.

most all students can find that $90 from somewhere.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ladyvols8times, most schools do not get money from the state to funds their athletics programs. That is a "myth" that UT likes to spout off. Check out the following sight and you'll see that outside of UGA and Florida, most other SEC schools get zero government support. Check out the government, direct and indirect instituional support:

http://www2.indystar.com/NCAA_financi...

As for ashley, you called me a dude in a previous post:

Posted by Ashley on April 11, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Worky, it's becoming obvious that you have multiple personalities so I wont bother pulling and pasting old post from you. Just relax dude and watch your "behaviour" on here. Big Brother (Ashley) is watching

So which do you think I am a girl or a guy or did you contradict yourself on purpose? Keep talking dirty to me. I win again. LOL!!!!

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 3:56 p.m.

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Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 3:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99 gator:

the issue isnt about fraternity/sorority people. it's about the university double charging for tickets. the university already charges the students for football tickets. the tickets were never "free".

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator, i have no clue what fraternity life is like... but my point was that this whole discussion of frat guys came about because a few people posted something along the following lines in response to the above article:

"well good, this ought to weed out the frat boys who curse and belch and drink and throw up at the games"

my point was not to say that frat guys don't do that (although i will say it's a bit over the edge to assume ALL frat guys do that or that ONLY frat guys do that).

rather, my point was simple - will this new ticket policy really stop frat guys and the like from going to the games? i doubt it. i'm under the impression that student response to the increase in ticket prices will be very small across the board (frat guy or non-frat-guy).

so why are we talking about frat guys?

Posted by overatedvols on April 11, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm not paying it!!

Posted by newtonrail on April 11, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When I went to UT, Tickets were a part of the Activities Fee. Nothing I've read here confirms what the Tennessean has up that: "No cut of the Activities Fee goes to the AD". If that is true, I don't have a problem with charging. It is a pity when I go to all home games to see the empty seats in Student Sections. Everything is not computing except the need for more money for the AD's coffers. It's interesting I don't see the people commenting on here now, that want to pay " Whatever it costs" to keep Coach Pearl or get rid of Fulmer, or whatever you want to throw money at.

Posted by 99gator on April 11, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vol grad....

sorry, did not realize you all were already essentially paying for tix.

how tenn has a budget shortfall, with loads of money coming from the revenue sports does not make sense to me either.

maybe, i did not realize how much BIG money there is at florida.

Posted by 99gator on April 11, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

all

keep in mind there are people who never went to tenn that have tickets....and other adults....who are in their 40's that have no problem acting like drunken fools.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The activity fee is about $250 bucks per semester and then in the summer/miniterm it's 11 bucks per credit hour. I posted this earlier:

Programs and Services Fee
Students registered for classes at UTK must pay a Programs and Services Fee of $18.00 per hour ($250.00 maximum). This fee is used to pay for costs related to several UTK facilities including the Aquatics Center and the UC as well as Student Health Services, student activities and publications, the Student Government Association, and athletic tickets. Some programs and services are available only to students paying the full-time fee and others are available to all students. Part-time students (taking at least 6 hours) who are seeking athletic tickets must pay the full-time fee. Questions should be addressed to the Dean of Students Office.

Posted by 99gator on April 11, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

also....

to defend students....a crowd is only as loud and intimidating as its student section.

Posted by invisiblekid on April 11, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bshone, that "progressive price structure" is already in place in the form of the donations from the East Club. They are paying for a large portion of the overall renovations with those donations. I figure those that can give would be willing to give a little more.

Posted by 99gator on April 11, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

workin and others....

we had no activities fee at florida....

being a full or part time student entitled you to all privileges of the university.....

provided you pay your tuition and parking tix

Posted by invisiblekid on April 11, 2008 at 4:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You're doing your fraternity proud right now VolGraduate.

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 4:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

newtonrail, that's a great point - a major question here would need clarification as to whether or not the original activities fee's actually went to the athletic department and not things like cleaning up the student section after a game...

either way, students must pay their activities fees to get into the football games. so now the price of the activities fees has gone up. if the additional $90 now puts the total price above your willingness to pay (just like any good/service out in the beautiful capitalist society we live in) then simply stay home. it's not like football is 1. a necessity or 2. something that should be provided at no cost.

still, i see basically no change in the attendance at the football games - especially if the university proposal for an increase in the student body of 6,000 gets passed in the next couple of years.

lets see... economics 101... fixed supply of seats in the neyland student section... very inelastic demand (relatively low responsiveness to a change in price)... increased number of "buyers" (additional 6,000 students)... yea - the neyland student section will still be PACKED.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 4:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

grandfathered season ticket holders (about 20,000 to 30,000) do not pay a donation for their season tickets. Some may pay a donation to the VASF to obtain more tickets but that is separate from the actual grandfathered season ticket that isn't tied to a donation. They should pay before the students.

Posted by jglocsawgrass on April 11, 2008 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a very pathetic turn of events. I am the mother of a junior and we will make sure that she has the $90.00 to attend the games, if she wishes, but what about those who can't afford it? As a two time graduate of UT this was an event that I enjoyed and looked forward to. While I realize that there are many alumni who pay hefty prices to make sure that our football facility is one of the finest the team is comprised of students and the University of Tenneesse is for the students. What's next...should we charge the players to play? Is the Red Cross and Knoxville's finest going to pay their fare share as well? And finally, does this put the student in the upper deck so that those who fork over the big bucks get a better view. PATHETIC!!!!

Posted by 99gator on April 11, 2008 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

whhhooooaaaa

you only have a student section of 6000 for football....in a 100000 seat stadium

there would be campus rioting if only 6000 students were admitted into a florida football game.

what's the enrollment at tenn?

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 4:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

invisiblekid, i hear you - the marginal value of an extra dollar to ted turner is a lot lower than it is to a poor student like me. however, you've got to draw the line somewhere... if we kept asking the club box owners to take the hit, there would be less and less of them to donate money in the long run.

just like most americans don't like to pay taxes that go towards programs they don't use, the club-level owners don't want to pay for the athletic department themselves - the students get to watch just as frequently as they do.

Posted by bshone on April 11, 2008 at 4:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator, the student section holds a lot more than 6,000 students. maybe i wasn't clear but what i meant to say was that the university is considering allowing 6,000 additional students into UT in the future - making the overall enrollment go from about 26,000 to 32,000. my point with regards to that was - all else constant - that would increase the demand for student tickets.

Posted by hcjournals on April 11, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is very entertaining. When we were in school we loved the free tickets. We went to the games and tried to be the best fans in the stadium. Anyone who talks bad about the student section was never a student at UT. Or else you were a geek. Not that there is anything wrong with that. About the Fraternity thing. It was great being in a fraternity. It was also great partying with GDIs. No big deal. We used to have a term called "The Big Orange Screw." Is that term still used? We got it when we were there, just like they do now. It's probably not necessary to charge the students, but it is going to happen. and less students at the games will mean they will take away tickets in the future. We do need to cultivate the fans of the future. That's what we all were........By the way, the next time you are at a game, talk to a student, ask how they are doing, and tell them never to schedule a class on the hill at 7:50.A.M. Later.

Posted by dirtdobber1 on April 11, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

this is a bunch of crap! geedy btards!

Posted by jglocsawgrass on April 11, 2008 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Apparently they have a huge excess in the Lottery Scholarship money. At least give those recipients free tickets if they aren't going to lower the GPA. UT will get their money all the same! Gosh, I am willing to buy more Lotto tickets as long as the students aren't screwed. HA!!!!!

Posted by OrangeNugget on April 11, 2008 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok, I'm a student and I think this is bullshiit, I get 20 bucks a week for spending money and now I honestly won't be able to go to ANY games next year. Thanks UT.

Posted by BOASoldier on April 11, 2008 at 4:38 p.m.

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Posted by BOASoldier on April 11, 2008 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and finally the mom jokes got played out in middle school but are a prime example as to why you are indeed a frat "boy" and always will be. Pikes are the ones I can't stand the most FYI

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

invisiblekid:

why are you commenting to/about me? i guess i struck a cord with you. did you get balled or did your girlfriend leave you for a "frat" guy??? ...you're one insecure gdi

Posted by Hacksaw57 on April 11, 2008 at 4:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If we ALL had horses then we ALL could have "free rides".
But then, don't you have to feed the horses?
Doesn't feed cost money?
Hmmmm- Don't add up , does it!

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 4:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL @ boa!!!!!!!!

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 4:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

boa/poser (as in i'm a soldier but not a soldier in the army...the other kind of soldier...the make believe in my own retard head kind of soldier...maybe if i make my screen name say soldier and tell people i dont know i hung out w/rugby players they'll think i'm tough and cool):

so mom jokes aren't funny but frat guy and girlfriend jokes are funny? that was an intelligent comment. they're all cheap shot jokes meant to piss the other person off...i guess my mission was accomplished poser soldier boy..

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 5:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tread lightly volgraduate, he's looking at your profile. Coming up next, he'll claim he used to fight MMA and tell you he rode bulls (he really claimed this a few months ago).

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on April 11, 2008 at 5:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bummer! I'm glad I didn't have to pay by the game when I was there. I always assumed that it was factored into the tuition somehow. It just seems like there was another way, like raising the price on the concessions a little bit.

Posted by TommyJack on April 11, 2008 at 5:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

volgrad: Did you mean pariah? You sure spell like a captain of industry. lol. I don't give a rat's azz one way or the other about the frat boys. Seems like you never got over your silly infatuation with all that Greek chit. Grow up pal.

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tommyjack:

is this a spelling contest? if it were we both lost...chit!!!!

and by the way you made the first comment about fraternities...i just explained how/why you were wrong...

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 5:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

workinlikeheck:

there are alot of tough guys on here...myself included

i too ride bulls, armwrestle, drink straight whiskey, love nascar, pretend to be a soldier, and all other sorts of manly chit...

i love friday

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 5:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I've enjoyed the cheese bings and jack and cokes at OCI many a night.

Posted by Silent_Fulmer on April 11, 2008 at 5:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Frats died the day they kicked the Kappa Sig's and E-boats off campus.

Unless your into the Sigma Phi Hairsalon.

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 5:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Workinglikeheck: cheese bings and a jack and coke sounds delicious...

PFuture/Fpast:

the only thing that died when Kappa Sig got kicked off campus was date rape and tanning bed revenues...and the tap room

Posted by VolJoe on April 11, 2008 at 5:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

senior in business,
in a fraternity (small one),
don't have a dime to my name, never had.
never been drunk at a game

what the hell does this have to do with anything?

Posted by overatedvols on April 11, 2008 at 5:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They expect me to pay money and they can't even beat Florida. No way.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on April 11, 2008 at 5:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nobody cares about you or your orange and white Mumphis Tiger there overatedvols. You seriously are UT football/Mumphis basketball fan? What a loser.

Posted by Plasticman on April 11, 2008 at 5:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Students can quit whining about having to pay $90 extra. Most of them spend more than that on booze each month. We didn't have the Hope scholarship when I was in school, you paid for all of your tuition. Most kids today expect everything to be handed to them. UT is not doing anything different from most other large universities.

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Did you know that...

Fraternity men make up only 2% of the population!
Approximately 80% of the top executives in Fortune 500 are fraternity men.
71% of men listed in Who's Who in America are fraternity men.
76% of the current United States Senators and Congressmen are fraternity men.
40 of the 47 Supreme Court Justices since 1910 have been fraternity men.
100 of the 158 cabinet members since 1900 have been fraternity men.
All but 3 United States Presidents since 1825 have been fraternity men.

Posted by david1179 on April 11, 2008 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH???!!!

Fulmer is already making close to 3 million, Pearl will be making 2 million no doubt soon and they are making students pay for the raise.

Do any of you understand how much money 2 million is? After 2 years what are you going to spend it on? If Fulmer can afford to donate 1 million to the school he doesn't need the money!!!
How about giving him incentives to get raises instead of handouts? If you don't win the SEC you don't get a raise!!! How about that?

Where is the loyalty to the school? Do you realize the Joe Paterno makes $475,000 and gives most of it back to the school?

Its called GREED people. I don't give a rats behind how much other coaches make. I don't give a rats behind if their market value warrant a raise.
Let their success in playoff games and championship games give them their raise. Don't make the students pay for these worthless greedy people to make more money than they know what to do with!

HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH????

Posted by VolGraduate on April 11, 2008 at 5:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

plasticman:

so it's okay to exploit students and make them pay twice for football tickets? if the university made the students pay three or four times would that matter to you? where do you draw the line?

fyi-the hope scholarship doesn't hand anything to anyone. it isn't race or gender based

Posted by jglocsawgrass on April 11, 2008 at 5:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That (the Hope Scholarship comment) was a joke.

Posted by TommyJack on April 11, 2008 at 6 p.m. (Suggest removal)

volgrad: You need to grow out of it man