QBs better on snap decisions

Clawson: Bad throw sometimes good play

Tennessee offensive coordinator Dave Clawson shares at least one bit of philosophy with his predecessor: Sometimes there's nothing wrong with throwing the ball out of bounds.

Saturday's scrimmage, the final full scrimmage before Saturday's Orange and White Game, saw Tennessee's quarterbacks take a big step forward in Clawson's new offense.

And a large part of that was knowing when to get rid of the football.

"There were more good decisions today. Some of the good decisions are just throwing it away," Clawson said Saturday. "There are times you call something and the defense does a heck of a job covering you, and you need to cut your losses, survive the down and play the next play."

That requires a different mentality for quarterbacks than other players, Clawson says.

Sometimes an incomplete pass is the best possible result for a given play. Knowing when that's the case is key.

"Playing quarterback, sometimes smarts have to take over for instincts," said Clawson, who also coaches quarterbacks. "It's the nature of a competitor that . . . you never give up and you fight to the end. Sometimes at quarterback, you've just got to cut your losses."

That distinction usually comes with experience.

That's why every snap is so important for junior quarterback Jonathan Crompton, whose most significant playing time came in 2006 when he filled in for an injured Erik Ainge against LSU and Arkansas.

Every scrimmage carries with it a valuable chance to learn and grow while playing as close to full speed as possible.

"It's one thing to know the plays and it's one thing to have physical talent and physical skills to be able to make throws," Clawson said. "It's another thing at the quarterback position to be able to manage a game 60 to 65 to 80 snaps a game. That's what he's learning to do, and that's why every time we come out here and he gets 50, 60 snaps, it's great for him."

Orange and White Info: Tennessee will hold its annual Fan Day before Saturday's Orange and White game.

Because of ongoing construction at Neyland Stadium, this year's Fan Day will take place on Haslam Field, located between the Neyland-Thompson Sports Center and Lindsey Nelson Stadium.

Fans should enter off Pat Head Summitt Drive.

Players and coaches will be available for pictures and autographs beginning at 11:45 a.m.

Festivities end with the Vol Walk , which begins at 1 p.m. Players will enter the stadium through the south tunnel because of construction around Gate 21.

Fans may use gates 1-10 to enter the stadium, and all university parking lots are available except for reserved parking in Lot 9 and the G-10 garage.

Kickoff for the Orange and White game is set for 2:30 p.m.

Speed Rush: Defensive ends Robert Ayers, Ben Martin and Wes Brown each had two sacks apiece during Saturday's scrimmage.

Part of the reason for that success comes from speed, UT coach Phillip Fulmer said.

"I thought Robert Ayers, Wes and Ben, those three guys will give us a better speed dimension coming off the edge than we've had in a couple years," Fulmer said.

Carr, Kramer Honored: Former Michigan head coach Lloyd Carr is this year's recipient of the Neyland Award, presented by the East Tennessee chapter of the National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame at a 10 a.m. brunch Saturday at the Foundry.

Former SEC commissioner Roy Kramer also will receive the Distinguished American Award.

Amateur football awards will be presented to LaTain McGhee, Oakie Pickard, George Quarles, Gary Rankin and Bill Wilson.

Contact Tyler Johnson in the UT athletic department at 974-1219 for more information.

Drew Edwards covers University of Tennessee football. He may be reached at 865-342-6274.

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ThurmondEppy writes:

(First)
What is an amateur football award?

vtvol#210290 writes:

I wonder if the Bill Wilson who is receiving the amateur football award is the same Bill Wilson who coached Knox-West High School Football in the '80's?

cdldoc#211897 writes:

When are we going to run Adams out of town? Count on me! Should I get a ticket to come home now or wait. Is the date set? What a great idea.

pkaplan writes:

The award is for Bil Wilson. He coached West and later coached one year at Bearden before he passed away a year ago.

nicksjuzunk#646117 writes:

bflynn,

Let us dream warm fluffy thoughts of a big 10 team in tears and a big orange team hoisting the hardware.

pdhuff#552644 writes:

nicksjuz-1:23am - Gen F says that is not a dream, it is a done deal. Book it, Dano.

kalij#244795 writes:

Oh my gosh,he said "heck". All is lost now.

GreerVol22 writes:

OK, its fritter bettin' time. How many fritters do you wage that we break 20k attendance?

BigOrangeJeff writes:

ThurmondEppy and bflynn,
Every year and the dinner, the foundation hands out a variety of awards for contributions to amateur football in East Tennessee.

My father won the George L. Hunter Distinguished Service Award at the 1998 dinner, which was the year Lou Holtz won the Neyland Award. While Coach Holtz was humbled and honored to receive the award, he devoted at least as much of his speech to the unsung heroes on the dais who received the "Who Cares" awards.

BOJ

orangebloodgmc writes:

Thank you, BirOrangeJeff. Its good that some of the unsung heroes get recognized now and then.

Greyback_Vol writes:

I really hope some of this good play on the d-line continues into the fall. It will be good to see our defensive ends actually be able to get a pass rush on a qb. Of course, it probably won't matter against Florida since so much of their offense is bases on counters, misdirections and draw plays in order to make the defense react instead of attacking and thus slow the defense down.

Also, I'd like to see how well our our d-ends stuff the run. A couple of quality run-stuffers at defensive end will really help the tackles. In Chavis' defense, the entire defense normally performs only as well as the tackles do.

leedsvol2007 writes:

I wonder if Clawson might have phrased what he said a little differently.

It is the responsibility of the QB to put the team in the best possible position at the end of the play.

In other words if the main receiver is open get it to him, if not get it to the next best option, and if he isn't open scramble for some yards or throw it away.

From what we've seen of Crompton in his limited playing time is he is always trying to make something big happen. As a result he has thrown interceptions.

This kid has size and throwing talent and a great competitive drive. He needs to channel that drive toward making sure he puts the offense in the best position at the end of the play.

If he does this team can be special.

GoVols!

pdhuff#552644 writes:

Alas, we punctured few bubbles last season. Never giving Ga a chance to blow one up was the season hi-lite!

Well, we held KY to 50 and got a W.

johnlg00 writes:

I'm with you, sjt18. In military science, it is said that no battle plan survives contact with the enemy. A relentless speed rush makes that contact happen sooner. One main benefit of our solid secondary next year will be to make our front seven less concerned about guys getting by them while they are rushing upfield.

99gator writes:

i think that you have to stop most offenses up front.

but, with any offense that has skill people like florida's 2008 team will have, it's imperative.

volssam writes:

mloaks --

Who in the world is that in the picture with his leg bent backwards; that looks awfully painful and damaging....

knoxtenor writes:

C'mon, folks! Admit it! You LOVE having Adams in town! I mean, just how incredibly boring would GoVolsXtra be if you just had to read and comment on Pennington's droning? And how much fun would professional wrestling be without a "baddie" to boo at? Knowing that, day after day, you can count on Adams to say outrageous things that run counter to everything a true Vol fan believes in lets you sleep better at night and makes your nihilistic world a little brighter.

givehim6 writes:

Clawson and Cutcliff share the same philosophy on throwing the ball away to cut your losses, oh boy not that again. Throwing the ball away is ok if your about to get saked, but not like Angle did and throw the ball when you hear someone breathing heavy as there chasing you. As long as Clawson teaches Crompten to look the feield over befor throwing the ball away.

pdhuff#552644 writes:

Does this mean that the first 6 rows will still keep getting souvenirs on 3rd and 8?

wewhite 10:23 - I enjoy reading Adams. His job is to stir it up, provoking thought. He goes a little too deep for some provoking more reaction than he bargined for. Going to see Finebaum was a stretch, but I guess he has thick skin or simply doen't care. It's his call.

As Voltaire stated "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so, too".

WorkinLikeHeck writes:

yawn....status quo 12k to 17K will show up to same ol' O & W spring game while we complain that ESPN isn't there to cover it. Meanwhile, Hamilton will have to figure out a way to increase spring game attendance as we are behind out peers in the SEC. I mean, after all, this is losing concession sales profits, right Hamilton? I just don't want Florida and Bama, even Ole Miss selling more popcorn, hot dogs, and cokes than we can just because nobody will go to the game:

UK, USC, and Ark have theirs this weekend. So far:

Bama 78,000
Florida 61,000
Ole Miss 28,000
UGA 20,000
LSU 33,000
Auburn - 34,000
Miss State - ???
Vandy - ???

superk#226173 writes:

Here's a wild guess: Nick Stephens to transfer. Nothing has been written about him. Seems the media is giving the pub to Crompton (his turn due to experience) and to Coleman (in state guy hand picked by Cutcliff)

Volunatic writes:

My problem with the O&W game is that I never know who to root for.
Seriously, if, for example, you see a great passing play in the O&W game, do you think, "Wow-- we have a QB with a great arm and our receivers are incredibly fast", or do you think, "Man, our D-line can't get any pressure and our secondary just got BURNED".
I expect the 1st team D will dominate for the whole game on Saturday, and that's okay by me for the most part. Defense wins championships, although the offense needs to contribute, too.

tigervol9802 writes:

My problem with the O&W game is that it is boring as heck. There is absolutely nothing fun about it unless you are a 9 year old getting autographs (or adults I make fun of for gettign autographs).

Now I just wish a few of the idiots that sit around me at games would understand that sometimes it's best to just throw the ball away.

CoverOrange writes:

spam, always root for the orange.

volguy40 writes:

Well for one...im glad to hear some positives about the qbs....although its coming from those that want us to hear it...lol...its still refreshing....I think (hope) we will all be surprised with how well we perform this year...just a feeling...(could be gas though) but none the less a feeling.....GO VOLS....

FlushTheJohn writes:

What is fun about the O & W game is that you get to see everyone play, not just the starters. It is a great opportunity each year to try and pick out the stars of the future. A true football fan will understand what I'm saying. You don't need concerts, races, and other hooplah! This is about Football, so if Football excites you, come on out Saturday!!!

Oh yeah, John Adams is phooey!
Flush the John, send Adams where he belongs!!

WorkinLikeHeck writes:

yawn...spring games are for David Yancey to be dubbed a "jitterbug", Matt McGlothlin a "buzzsaw", and Jarrod Parrish the "next Chris White" by Fulmer.

99gator writes:

spring games are for the people who know it's their last chance to see football until august.

spring games are for people who base the entire fortunes of a season on the performance of one scrimmage......because they have not seen any other practices or scrimmages.

spring games are for people certain that this will be a year to remember.

they are also for people who are certain of the worst case scenario.

but spring games are mostly for those people, and i am one, who are giddy any time any one is wearing the school uniform at the stadium they hold dear and tossing the pigskin around.

i try to look at individuals and see who those individuals are matched up with. even then, remember it's a scrimmage.

jcorange98 writes:

brutal schedule, inexperienced qb, new offense, still having snap issues, special teams coverage disaster, let players make plays, but throw the ball away on 2nd and 8, love ut, but look at the last two nat champs, huge athletic up front on d, speed everywhere, experienced qbs, clawson will be good, but phil runs the show, more of the same for now, min 3 losses

GreerVol22 writes:

GerryOP, If one puts down the coolaid and takes off the orange sunglasses, perception is reality.

I really think until we beat Florida again, win the East by our own doing, not by default, and get back to a BCS game will we ever be relevant nationally.

TommyJack writes:

GreerVol: Exactly. But I don't think ol' Gerry is wearing any orange oakleys.

WorkinLikeHeck writes:

The volume on this board the last 2 days is disgusting just like our spring game attendance.

pdhuff#552644 writes:

GerryOP 12:37 good find. That one augured in deep near the blowhole. Many will not like that read. That is their right. Cold when he said "Ten years" need no explaining.

Greervol22 - many SEC schools have not stayed the course and have made good hires with fresh minds and presentations. Meyer, Saban, Richt etc, like them or not are getting it done. We beat Ga, they went on to beat Fla and Bama to finish top 3 in the nation. I dread Bama coming to Knoxville this year. We cannot cover up for shortcomings forever, although some seem willing to try.

Get ready for Sept 1.

WorkinLikeHeck writes:

Hamilton dutifully points out that our we weren't charging our students for tickets previously like our peer insitutions in the SEC so we had to charge them to "keep up". Funny how he'll continue to let our spring game attendance be at the bottom of the SEC as well as the % of season tickets that are tied to an athletic donation. I love the inconsistency of being worried about our peer instituions in some areas and then ignoring them in others. Way to go Hamilton.

99gator writes:

workin

some things i can tell you positively....

i have never cared about the attendance of a florida spring game.

i have never believed attendance at a florida spring game gave me, a florida fan, any bragging rights over anyone.

i have never cared about the attendance of anyone else's spring game.

alabama had larger spring crowds than florida or probably anyone else for at least the last two years and it has meant..... what?

gerryop:

i have said numerous times....the florida game is tenn's biggest game in years....which is why i am concerned.

i believe there is a lot of truth in your post. as such, tenn has to win the florida game. absolutely has to.

can not lose 4 in a row to meyer and florida.....with a trip to gainesville the following year.

i assume fulmer and everyone associated with the vols program knows that.

tigervol9802 writes:

99 -

But I don't think we have the manpower to do it. Florida will have to "lose" the game as much if not more than UT "wins" the game if it is to be this year.

Should have won in 05, should have won in 06. Now, I don't see it happening any time in the near fuuture.

TommyJack writes:

tigervol: not so fast my friend. FL proved mortality more than once last year. Let's tee it up and see.

WorkinLikeHeck writes:

Not worried about spring game attendance per se, just the total concession sales. More people, more concession sales and more apparell = more revenue for UTAD. Hamilton has got to change this somehow or we'll continue to not make as much as our other peer institutions in the SEC with the spring game.

99gator writes:

workin

don't know how much money is made by the school for sale per coca-cola beverage sold....

or

money from coca-cola being the official soft drink of the university of tenn.

depending on how the financial deals are done with tenn's concession vendors....the amount of sales at a spring game may not be that big of a deal.

but, i don't know.

TommyJack writes:

99: Agree with most of your points. Spring games don't mean squat. AL fans just want to display their mullets en masse.
I'm pretty sure CPF & the boys have figured out the importance of the FL game.

99gator writes:

TJ

i know that's a big time..."duh"....but, i feel this year that game is bigger than normal.

GerryOP writes:

GreerVol22 at 1:19 p.m., I agree. That article kind of sums up what a lot of us have been saying all winter. UT football is now viewed as irrelevant.

My greatest desire is that Coach Fulmer will walk away with royal fanfare and honor and take the gold watch and the office next to Mikey's. I have heard enough about magic dust, perfect storms, teachin' and mentorin', going after Neyland's win record, acting indignant when criticized, workin' like heck, yada, yada, yada. Don't get me started on lack of excellence on the playing field. I think Phil would make a wonderful Senior Assistant Athletic Director in charge of whatever.

pdhuff, have you found a source for the 2007 SEC East Championship t-shirts? If not that how about the Highest Ranked 4-Loss Team shirts? Or, how about the Almost Beat The National Champs shirts? Really would like to get a dozen of each.

auttat writes:

I wonder if Georgia was considered relevant before last season began, losing to Vandy and Kentucky in the same season?

I wonder if UT was relevant in April of 1998?

Would some of you just prefer UT to cancel next season because they are not considered relevant by the Gameday crew?

dvol writes:

Crompton has all the tools to be a sucessful Q.B. with the right coaching. We will need the offense to come around by the time football season rolls around. I suspect Defense will not be as good as people think. I can see at least 4 losses and another round of Fire Phil again. Hope I'm wrong and we win them all. If I'm right though, John Adams will grow into a fan favorite for telling it like it is.

pdhuff#552644 writes:

GerryOP, I have found a "Stay The Course" XXL tee with a great view of TDTN, Gen Fritter, Kingsport setting on the bank of the Tennessee watching the Vols navy roll up the river. In the background you can see Dupree stirring a 5-gallon glass container with an old boat paddle. Mixture looks to be orange with 5 or 6 Grey Goose empties laying beside it.

There is a ABTNC shirt available with a hand grenade and a pair of horsehoes on the back.
The back says "Second Place Pays"...... Front says says "Ten In A Row"..... Couldn't read the rest of it.

TommyJack writes:

GerryOP: Amen, brother. How about SAAD of Hugs?

GerryOP writes:

Posted by auttat on April 15, 2008 at 3:25 p.m.

"Would some of you just prefer UT to cancel next season because they are not considered relevant by the Gameday crew?"

No auttat, I would like Coach Fulmer to put a team on the field that will kick some butt and prove ESPN and some of us wrong.

TommyJack writes:

Gerry: Went thru my 40+ years of T-shirts. Found no matches. Did find (really) one bright orange one that says on front "A Major change in UT football". Seems to have shrunk over the years, tho.

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