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Forget position battles and starting spots. With five more practices before Tennessee's first scrimmage this fall, it's still too early to start whittling down the depth chart.
"We don't have to do that right now," UT coach Phillip Fulmer said following a three-hour practice Sunday afternoon on Haslam Field. "There's a lot of water under the bridge before we have to make those kinds of decisions. We're trying to get as many people ready to play as we possibly can."
So far, the Vols are on the right track.
"I like the attitude of our team and the progress of our team after two days," Fulmer said.
Two more days of the NCAA's acclimation period remain until the Vols can put on full pads and begin full-contact work.
Once Wednesday's practice comes around, coaches and players can begin learning a lot more about who will start and who can contribute.
Still, there's work to be done and progress to be made early.
For quarterback Jonathan Crompton, a lot of that work is done above the shoulders.
UT will spend most of the acclimation period reinstalling schemes on both sides of the ball and on special teams.
It's a review session for the older players and a crash course for many of the newcomers.
But it's still important, Crompton says.
"You've got to understand it," he said. "The more I understand it, the more my teammates understand that I know it, and they'll know that I'm going to get into the right play."
Just as important, though, is getting into the right frame of mind from the outset.
"The older guys setting the example from day one," says Rico McCoy, a preseason All-SEC selection at linebacker. "Stay upbeat, do things the right way. The more the young guys see you do that, the more likely they are to follow suit."
And pick up where they left off.
UT ended spring practice on a high note in April, and senior defensive end Robert Ayers doesn't want to see that momentum wasted by a few bad days in August.
"We just don't want to lose a step," Ayers said. "We had a good spring practice. We don't want to take five steps forward in the spring and then take two steps back. We want to take those five steps and keep building on that."
Tailback Arian Foster just wants that building process to be a quiet, focused one.
As one of UT's leaders on offense, he'd rather see players focused and working than yelling and screaming.
"As an older guy, I don't want to see all this hollering and yelling," he said. "A lot of the time, it's insincere. I want to see the older guys put their heads down and go to work. I think it'll set the tone for the younger guys."
Setting the right pace early should pay dividends throughout fall camp.
"After the first week, you're back in the groove and ready to go every day because you know that it's time," Crompton said. "It's an every day thing. You're anxious to get out there and play ball, because that's what we came here to do."
For now, though, it's more about who can play - and who can play where - than anything else.
"We've made some significant changes before," Fulmer said. "(Dallas Cowboys Pro Bowl tight end) Jason Witten didn't speak to me for a week after I moved him (from defensive end). But he's not mad at me anymore.
"You're finding those spots where they're going to help your team and what's best for them as well."
Drew Edwards covers University of Tennessee football. He may be reached at 865-342-6274.
© 2008, Knoxville News Sentinel Co.
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Posted by Richmondvol on August 3, 2008 at 9:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Getting closer....
Posted by BAMABLOWS on August 3, 2008 at 10:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I cant wait to see how everything plays out! Will crompton get the job done ? Will the d line step up ? Can the secondary be as good as we think it can? Will foster break the rushing record? What newcomers will have an impact? I think the o line and the running game should be our work horse, im also anxious to see guys like gerald williams and ahmad paige , Bring it on im ready. GO VOLS !!!!!
Posted by pdhuff on August 3, 2008 at 10:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Focused and workin".
We can do the "yellin".
29 days.
Posted by khelton657 on August 3, 2008 at 10:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Foster doesn't sound particularly excited.....
no need to condemn others who are, Usually the people who do not act excited, are not excited...and that can mean the 2% difference , even if on one play, between winning and losing.
Posted by BAMABLOWS on August 3, 2008 at 10:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I like fosters comment , keep your mouth shut and work hard , let your play do your talking!
Posted by yemmusdarb on August 3, 2008 at 10:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I like that quote about Witten.
Sometimes the kids need to realize the coaches know what's best for them and the team and if they aren't playing the position they came to UT to play, it's because their best chance to play is at another position. Alot of great HS RB's ended up going to the NFL as LB's (Jerod Mayo), DE's as TE's (Witten), and QB's as Safety's (Eric Berry, in 2 years).
Posted by Silent_Fulmer on August 3, 2008 at 10:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow, if this team overachieves and gets more than 7.5 wins (vegas odds) we could get back to the peach bowl with at least 9 wins, maybe.
Posted by yemmusdarb on August 3, 2008 at 10:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
khelton: I think what Foster means is... if you're yelling all the time and acting "hype" all the time, then how does someone know when you're really excited??? Whereas, if you are usually calm and go about your business... then out of nowhere you're yelling and going crazy.... it has a much better effect of getting your teamates going!
Posted by el_duderino on August 3, 2008 at 11:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think this team's leaders are emotionally in the right state of mind. Let's hope that offense is running smooth by the time September 1st rolls around. GO VOLS!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4R2o6...
Posted by burntorangeVOLffle on August 4, 2008 at midnight (Suggest removal)
Silent_Fulmer, where can I place my bet against those odds?
Posted by JohnAdamsIsTrash on August 4, 2008 at 12:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It's football time in Tennessee!!!!!!!
Posted by nicksjuzunk on August 4, 2008 at 12:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey,
Does anyone have a slingbox they could hook me up to???? I live in Malaysia and that is my only chance of catching any games.
Posted by newtonrail on August 4, 2008 at 1:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
nafslov, I try hard to ignore you, but I have to ask who in the devil is Nagi? And the Team isn't boycotting anyone. If they were, it would be Adams, but he's still credentialled.
Posted by ZR on August 4, 2008 at 1:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Can Fulmer finish in the top 10 for the 4th time?
Posted by oldorange on August 4, 2008 at 4:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Like each one of you, I am also anxious to see the season begin. I temper my enthusiasm only by the knowledge that the 4 big SEC east games are played after the opposing team has a week off....GO VOLS!
Posted by gnm53108 on August 4, 2008 at 5:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
good article Drew.
I love the quote by Arian."As an older guy,I dont want to see all this hollering and yelling,"he said"alot of the time it's insincere".
Sounds like he likes Drayton's style alot better than his predecessor.
Or did he think Trooper was insincere sometimes?
hmmm..
Posted by pdhuff on August 4, 2008 at 6:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Agree with Phil On Hardesty. Love the way he runs, if he could somehow play a full season.
Posted by gnm53108 on August 4, 2008 at 7:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Agree pd.I also love the way Hardesty runs.But our O-line has to do alot better run blocking.If that can happen and Hardesty can stay healthy,is it possable to have a couple of 1,000 yrd backs?
Posted by General_Watermelon on August 4, 2008 at 7:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Dupree is working quietly and going about his business these days. TDTN stuffed a used hanky in his mouth.
Posted by General_Watermelon on August 4, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It's Fulmer time. Do the Chavis Shuffle.
Posted by Silent_Fulmer on August 4, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why is Fulmer talking to the media (even if it was media day)?
I fully expect Fulmer to close all practices and wear a straw hat to show his defiance.
Thanks,
P.S. Where's Ashley?
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Silent... I don't gamble but if you'd give me an over/under of 7.5 it would be very hard for me to resist taking some of your money.
Posted by Silent_Fulmer on August 4, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think vegas has the 7.5 wins at something like -140 or -160 though, so the true over under is probably something like 8 wins.
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 4, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
8 wins!!!! Give Foolmore a contract extension!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 10:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
UT has avg'd 8.9 wins per season since 98 including the aberration in 2005. Throw out the high and low- UT avgs 9.1 wins per season since then.
This team appears to be improved in every area except possibly MLB and/or QB over last year's team. While those are significant factors, there's little reason to believe UT will not win more than 8 games.
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
nafslov, If you were a genuine fan you'd be more embarrassing to UT fans than mcbrim is to UF fans.
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 4, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
So Foolmore gets an automatic contract extension for being below average? LOL!!!!!
Posted by TommyJack on August 4, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Naffy: Our 5th game is with N. Illinois. If we lose one of the first 4 games, who will our fifth opponent be?
Posted by iowavol on August 4, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It really is hard to believe that John Adams still has credentials. For that matter, it's hard to believe KNS still has credentials. Anyone figure out what nafslov is talking about? STJ, that was funny. On the other hand, if nafslov was to quit being a vol fan and start being a gator fan, the IQ of both groups would go up.
Posted by pdhuff on August 4, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gen W 7:24 , Will the shuffle hurt the twins?
Tj, what is the exact date the "8 is enuf" contract roll over?
Posted by Silent_Fulmer on August 4, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
little man sjt18 - how did you factor in the fact that they play 12 games now rather than 11?
I guess your fact finding data just got thrown in the dumpster.
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 4, 2008 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
LOL at "little man sjt" and his "stats"!!!!
Posted by RichRollin on August 4, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If you did not know, Daddyvol has went into early retirement!! Name officially changed to ... Well I guess that explains itself
Posted by VOLstuckINky on August 4, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tebow = crack sound = bye bye
Posted by TommyJack on August 4, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
PD: Hard to foretell. Ask me late on 9/1. :)
Could be early...could be at the Poulan Weedeater Bowl. 9/1 will give us a glimpse into the future. I've got a good feeling about it.
Naffy's algorithm projects we are 28 days away.
Posted by burntorangeVOLffle on August 4, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Workin, a few months ago you said you would stop calling Fulmer the ever-so-clever "Foolmore" once he gave an interview to the media. Last week he did the car wash at ESPN so take your medicine like a man and come up with a new pet name.
If I could stomach reading thru all your previous post I would go find it. As it is I hope you can just man-up and admit it.
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 4, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'd actually forgotten about that. Thanks for reminding me of that. No more Foolmore for Fulmer then.
Posted by burntorangeVOLffle on August 4, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank you!
Posted by TurboFan on August 4, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)
680 hours to UCLA.
Posted by VolnDothan on August 4, 2008 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Can 't wait to see this team and our new OC in action!
Posted by foreverorange on August 4, 2008 at 12:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Turbo, that makes it seem so far away, I like 27 days instead :)
Posted by foreverorange on August 4, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think the new OC will shake things up for the better. Cutcliff's offense was zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 4, 2008 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Nafslov-
I hate to burst your bubble because I know you are real proud of the MBV Wrecking Crew nickname, but there is a real possibility that Vinson won't be a starter. I think he is behind Willinghelm and Rogan on the depth chart right now.
Posted by General_Watermelon on August 4, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If Rogan is no starting before the Fall season is over, we need to find some new coaches. The kid can play I tell you.
Posted by thesavageorange on August 4, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Serious question.
If this club goes 10-3 w/ 1 of those wins being the bowl game, would you consider the season a success?Would it depend on who we lost too, and how?I'm asking b/c I am having a hard time not saying 11-2 or bust.I am assuming we don't make the SEC title game b/c even if we beat UF, I Don't see a 2nd loss.Easiest schedule in the east.
Posted by murrayvol on August 4, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
burntorange: What are the consequences if workin has a brain cramp at the keyboard and that loathesome nickname leaps into cyberspace in the absence of malice? Just curious.
Posted by thesavageorange on August 4, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
General, by the end of the season I thing Rogan w/ start at safety and Berry will move to corner.If not this yr then surely next yr.Good safeties are easier to find than lock-down corners.You will see this in the mustang package some too.Rogan is definately a baller.
Posted by GoshDarnGoodFootballPlayer on August 4, 2008 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
savage -
All things considered with this team and esp. with the strengths versus weaknesses, part of me is wondering if we might see more of the mustang package as the base set in a lot of cases with maybe a bit more agressiveness to it.
Posted by burntorangeVOLffle on August 4, 2008 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well I have no way to enforce any kind of punishment. I'm just hoping he's a man of his word and proof reads his post before submitting.
He’s reestablished a little respect (from me anyway) just for owning up to this point.
Posted by TommyJack on August 4, 2008 at 1:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Savage: My prediction is somewhat limited, not knowing in advance which slacks we will wear in certain games.
Posted by thesavageorange on August 4, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
GoshDarnGoodFootballPlayer ,the word is they will.Chavis said he's gonna blitz more out of the mustang b/c he believes there are enough good players in the secondary to do so.He even said he's gonna cut Moreley and Berry loose.Obviously he has faithe in Rogan,Vinson,Willingham etc...You don't take a player out of his natural enviornment unless you trust the guy behind him.This defense will be better.How much remains to be seen, but should certainly be more fun to watch.
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 4, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
nafslov-
Rivals has the full depth chart 2-3 deep at every position. Also, it relfects all the articles I've read about the secondary and who is currently winning the position battles. That doesn't mean that Rogan and Willinghelm will both end Fall practices ahead of Vinson. He is a heck of an athlete and may very well win a starting job before September 1st.
Posted by murrayvol on August 4, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
savage: I for one would hate to be out on that 11-2 limb. I do think it's possible but I always feel that way in August. Must be the heat.
It will come down to who we lose to and how. Close losses to either (pick 3) UF, UGA, Auburn, or SC wouldn't wreak so much as the Cal, UF, & Bama nukings of 07'.
Agree that Florida (absent a Tebow injury) will visit the Occupied City in Dec.
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
nafslov, I've actually changed my opinion on the hype. I hope Tebow is hyped by everyone until it creates contention on their team. I hope the UGA hype continues. That coupled with an apparent lack of team discipline and leadership could be their undoing. I hope Saban continues to be hyped until his players get tired of his overbearing threats and lay down on him again.
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 1:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
LOL at people that develop opinions in spite of the facts...
Posted by murrayvol on August 4, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I have a serious question as well.
Does it hurt more to lose 59-20 or 21-20?
Posted by vols0073 on August 4, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
KNX residential subscriptions are down since last May...good job Adams! I just hope the other homes cancel getting this rag delivered!
Posted by orangebloodgmc on August 4, 2008 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Dbs ... I'd be OK with 5 dbs ... IF one of them was Mckenzie or Myers-White.
Meanwhile one of the articles in the Tennessean (seems to me like it ought to be Tennesseean) said that both Vinson and Rogan had gained 15lbs of muscle. Vinson has a little bigger frame to carry it and could use a bit more wallop at the corner, but I hope that this would not slow Rogan down, if it is indeed correct.
Posted by volboy81 on August 4, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
28 DAYS TIL ITS FOOTBALL TIME IN TENNESSEE!!!!
27 TIL THE FLIGHT FOR L.A. LEAVES!!!!
Posted by orangebloodgmc on August 4, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Murray, I don't think a real close one hurts as much.
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Agree savage. Anything less than 11-2 would be a disappointment... and I believe that UF probably only loses one if UT gets them. I'll pull against them every week but they shouldn't lose.
I don't agree on the secondary though. Vinson was playing very well and ahead of Rogan at the end of last season with one good arm. Berry called him a "freak" of an athlete... pretty high praise. I think Rogan and Johnson will be the next two guys off the bench.
If anyone moves from CB to S, it will be Willingham. I'd say that's probably how they'll rotate to get Morley and Berry rest.
Short of it: I'd be very surprised if Vinson isn't the starter.
I'm really confused why you think UT would take a very natural S like Berry and put him at CB where he looked very much out of position last year. Not saying it would never happen but UT's depth is at CB. As great as Berry is @ S, I think Vinson at a minimum has better physical tools for the CB position.
Posted by TommyJack on August 4, 2008 at 1:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
murray, 1:24: I think I know which score our recruiting staff would prefer.
Posted by BornNBredAVol on August 4, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
28 days, 6 hours, 17 minutes till UCLA!
Posted by thesavageorange on August 4, 2008 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sjt18 ,I'm just going by what the staff has said.They want to develop depth at safety so Berry can move to corner.As far as I know that plan has not changed.I also think Vinson is a starter.I think he and Willingham will start.I also think Rogan will be the nickelback.But, don't be surprised,if at times, they come out in the nickel and Rogan is at safety and Berry is locked up on a #1 or blitzes.
murrayvol ,that's kinda why I asked.I think many of us would have seen last yr as considerable progress had we not gotten drilled by ,well you know.Let's say we lose those games by 3-5 pts while whipping the eventual #2 ranked team, and coming within a missed field goal and a pick from beating the national champs,and I really think the banner here would be different.
Posted by thesavageorange on August 4, 2008 at 2:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
That would be banter not banner.
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
savage, is that something you heard directly or have read? I haven't seen anything like that anywhere concerning Berry. He's a natural safety.
Posted by LargeOrange on August 4, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Silent... I don't gamble but if you'd give me an over/under of 7.5 it would be very hard for me to resist taking some of your money.
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sjt - I took over 8 wins at 110 the other day on an offshore betting service, I think that line is like stealing money, we are so underrated right now, I expect that to change after we tkae care of business the first 3 games. But to lose that bet we would have to go 7-5, which I honestly can not see. We are stopping in Vegas for a few days on the way to the UCLA game and I am going to be looking at the prop bets out there too. If I find 7.5 I am going to double down.
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I see... so you love to chide Richt about discipline issues but have no problem with this?
I mean we had a "columnist" suggest that Fulmer should be fired because an OL was in a parking lot yelling and waving his arms... Lord only knows what would happen if UT had someone firing an AK47 at an apartment.
Oh... weren't you also one that talked about other programs' thuggery?
Posted by threehundredbowler on August 4, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I just this minute recieved my season tickets delivered by UPS.Now I know it's FOOTBALL TIME IN TENESSEE. RTYAB HSHTM,GORT, RTT.
Posted by thesavageorange on August 4, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sjt18 ,it was from an interview w/ Chavis back during spring.Sorry ,I don't remember who wrote it.Ofcoarse things may have changed since then and it may depend on how the corners play.
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 4, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
300bowler, so you got your season tickets? So did about 68,000 other people.
Posted by 99gator on August 4, 2008 at 2:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dcflorida
ronnie wilson was not a starter on the 2006 team.
Posted by LargeOrange on August 4, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This is one link that gives the expected wins for each team and the odds. For those that don't know, the higher the +number is the more likely they think that that bet will win, so you have to pay more to win the same. If it has a - or low number it is more unlikely to happen so you bet less to get the same payout. This is simply for informational purposes and to get a feel for the Vegas view of the relative strengths of teams against their schedules. For instance Georgia is at 9 wins.
http://www.betus.com/sportsbook/ncaa-...
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 4, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
LargeOrange making a bet that won't pay out until January. LOL!!!!!!!!
Posted by LargeOrange on August 4, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
JerkinLikeHeck - Some of us plan ahead and look forward rather than always looking at the past.
Posted by LargeOrange on August 4, 2008 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Jerkin, i was going ot ask you (or SilentFulmer) your other post name, does LOL stand for LoserOnLine!!! I see that is always your signature.
Posted by 99gator on August 4, 2008 at 3 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dc
sorry, i thought tartt and miller started at guard with rissler at center.
anyway....
won't take up too much space for this.....but, i expect ten or more defensive lineman to get significant playing time. they will rotate them based on down and distance. i think they may even use 4 d-ends on obvious passing downs (something tennessee used to do). i'm not sure how much difference there will be in snaps between the starters and the others who get playing time. ronnie wilson might get playing time, but i don't know.
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 4, 2008 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
LargeMoron....so you made basically an even money bet to get in January if we win 8 games? The sportsbook thanks you.
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Let's see... Fulmer revoked a guy's scholarship and suspended him for half a season for getting drunk and running into a parked car... Meyer reinstates a guy who committed a felony... Yeah. Meyer is a real disciplinarian.
FWIW, Meyer didn't boot the guy. UF's policies say that offences like those of Wilson are out of the HC's hands. He does bear blame for letting him back though since no one joins the team without his permission.
Richt, like Meyer and Fulmer, operates within a policy that he has no control over. Some is undoubtedly at his discretion but he's been consistent enough that it appears most of it is according to some guideline.
If you weren't so hard on Richt DC then you wouldn't be looking like a hypocrite with this.
Posted by Jamey1210 on August 4, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
http://utsports.com/football/article....
Here you all go Decent article on UTFootball
Posted by LargeOrange on August 4, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Not that it is any of your business JerkinLikeHeck, but I have a credit line and we don't settle until the bet is over. Furthermore, these bets are on the regular season only, moron, which is over on November 29th. Take your SilentFulmer doll and crawl back under your bridge, you have once again proven to be one of the least informed and most irrelevant trolls on this site.
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 4, 2008 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You have a credit line? WOW!!!! Most people do So you can cash in your even money bet in December IF we win 8 regular season games? Again, the book thanks you (and laughs at you).
Posted by davidray31 on August 4, 2008 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What a quote from Fulmer about Witten.Fulmer is definately not silent this year.He is down right charismatic.No joke.
Posted by BigOrangeJeff on August 4, 2008 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
LargeOrange,
WhackinItLikeHeck uses the LOLs all the time because no one else is laughing at his "jokes". They're the online equivalent of the laugh tracks in bad sitcoms. Without them, no one would no when to laugh.
BOJ
Posted by marc_ash on August 4, 2008 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
My buddy chuck just sent me this....you will want to check this out. VERY cool stuff. Read the links in order of posting...this is a 5 part series you will enjoy.
http://www.rockytoptalk.com/2008/7/28...
http://www.rockytoptalk.com/2008/7/29...
http://www.rockytoptalk.com/2008/7/30...
http://www.rockytoptalk.com/2008/7/31...
http://www.rockytoptalk.com/2008/8/1/...
Posted by mjohnsonvols on August 4, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Interesting comment from Ivan Maisel
"There are other issues that demand national attention. There is our crumbling infrastructure. Where there is no strong interior from which the fastest may spring; where there is no foundation from which the tallest may leap, there will be no champion. Find a team with veteran offensive and defensive lines and you will find, at the very least, a dark horse (Wisconsin? Tennessee? BYU?)."
Well at least someone will give a little respect.
GO VOLS
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 4, 2008 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
wow...being mentioned as a dark horse national title contender is "respect" now.
Posted by General_Watermelon on August 4, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
In Rogan, we have a player who has the same speed as Harvin. He has already proven he needs to be on the field.
Posted by General_Watermelon on August 4, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
LargeO - Can I call you Large O? Do you have your panties in a wad?
Posted by LargeOrange on August 4, 2008 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So true BigOrangeJeff - What a loser.
Last time I feed the troll today:
JerkinLike Heck, it is not like your litte credit card or HE loan credit line, idiot, you have to pay interest on that. I can gaurentee you that most people (and especially you) don't have a personal credit line with a casino. Why would they laugh at me? They don't make a cent on me unless I lost the bet. If you know of some way to double your money in 3 months with no interest and pretty good odds, share it with us. Otherwise STFU and go away. You should stop digging when you are truely over your head. Here's lauging at you moron. ROTFL!!!
Posted by TommyJack on August 4, 2008 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Marc: Interesting stuff. BTW, in the SW, the QB was called a Blocking Back...He wore traditional QB numbers (1 thru 19)...he barked out the signals, but rarely touched the ball. The tailback was the stud-muffin. Great stuff.
Posted by TommyJack on August 4, 2008 at 4:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
LargeO: Could be a rumor, but I hear Adams is looking at houses in your neighborhood.
Posted by marc_ash on August 4, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TJ,
Could be an interesting year if this is what UT fan's may see. I think the personel is much better than what Ark had last season under this system. I also think that with Drayton coming in, UT will be much more prepared to stop a system such as this.
The cards may fall in place better than expected this season.
Posted by LargeOrange on August 4, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
No General, I am a boxer guy. Just haveing a little fun letting one of the top 5 morons (4 if you consider the he is also SilentFulmer) on here show us all how little he knows about what he speaks. I was just minding my own business and answer Stj's question about the over/under and Jerkin pops in with his LOL's. I can't resist letting even a loser/troll prove thier ignorance. LO out, I am late for happy hour.
Posted by LargeOrange on August 4, 2008 at 4:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
:-) TJ Good one, there is a bit more crime to report on down here. Bye for now....
Posted by threehundredbowler on August 4, 2008 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
working,you kiss my
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mcmo, True or False: Discharging an AK-47 in a public area like a bar is a felony in Florida?
Don't give me the plea down stuff. The crime is still the crime.
Back to the main point... UT's offseason problems this year amounted to college kids being rowdy, drinking, and misdemeanor possession. UF, Bama, USC, and UGA at a minimum have been dealing with felonies... yet it is Fulmer who has lost control of his program?
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 4, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
LargeMoron, I'd love to know what offshore betting service you have credit line with. Remember, you said that that you used an offshort betting service to place this bet.
LargeMoron "sjt - I took over 8 wins at 110 the other day on an offshore betting service"
A credit line at a casino yes, but not at an offshore betting service as you claim.
Now all of a sudden, it's a casino:
"I can gaurentee you that most people (and especially you) don't have a personal credit line with a casino."
So which did you place a bet with? A Casino or an offshore betting service. You do realize they are 2 different things. I am looking forward to your next fabricated post.
Posted by mikevol on August 4, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow So you kick a kid off the team for shooting a AK47 into the air then let him retun as a walk on give me a break...
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 4:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Maybe he's muslim and UF is accommodating his religion?
Posted by orangebloodgmc on August 4, 2008 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Classic, sjt18!
Posted by VOLstuckINky on August 4, 2008 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
it's gotten so bad that UF fans are having personal UF roster discussions here.
Tebow = crack sound = go to commerical
Posted by invisiblekid on August 4, 2008 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
SavageO, 12:56, I predicted 9-3 a few weeks back while taking the easy way out with the losses as FL, Auburn, and GA. I think the swing game will be GA. Have also stated that if we get by FL, all bets are off and the sky is the limit. We are not going to see a team with better skill players in the SEC, or likely, the country this year.
So, to answer your question, I would consider 10-3 a successful year given the staff turnover and competitive nature of the SEC. However, if we see ANY games like FL and AL last year, my tune will change. Being competitive and losing or being outmatched(which I don't think we were) is one thing, laying down and quitting is another. Being blown off the field and having opposing players saying that our guys were basically asking for mercy is NOT what UT is about.
Posted by invisiblekid on August 4, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"As an older guy, I don't want to see all this hollering and yelling," he said. "A lot of the time, it's insincere. I want to see the older guys put their heads down and go to work. I think it'll set the tone for the younger guys."
Hope this quote makes it to Bolden.
Posted by Madkels on August 4, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks Jamie for the link...I love this quote from Foster:
"There's a fine line between confidence and arrogance, but you can tell a difference," Foster said. "We're not the team that's getting all the media love and kisses from the fans. We're the team that's just waiting in the shadows that nobody really knows about."
Posted by hueypilot on August 4, 2008 at 5:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Marc, Tennessee resurrected a variation of the single wing back in the 70's for a game against Kentucky. The winner of this game would get a Liberty Bowl berth to play Maryland and Randy White. Stanley Morgan took toss after toss and ran sweeps behind an unbalanced line. They called it the Liberty formation and Morgan got a lot of yards leading the Vols to a win. That might have been the game that Nettles???? delivered the hardest hit I have ever seen at Neyland. Anyway, South Pittsburg HS has been running the SW with great success for years. Good link tho. And good insights into what Florida and W. Va do with the spread, proving there's not really anything new in football. Thanks for the link.
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 5:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Here you go mcmo... talk about being a rock... and an easy rock to boot....
http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/spo...
Wilson indeed committed a felony and had the charges reduced in a plea bargain.
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 4, 2008 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DC/ McRimJob-
I don't care if he's on scholarship or not. He's proven to be a menace and a thug and letting him back on the team, scholarship or no, speaks volumes about your coach and your program. Obviously, being a good citizen and student are things that take a back seat to being a good football player at UF. Seeing as you both seem to support this, neither of you can post ANYTHING regarding ANY team's off-field incedents anymore without being seen as a complete homer.
LaMarcus Coker never threatened anyone with an assault rifle and I still wouldn't condone letting him back onto the team as a walk on because he has already proven to not be the type of guy we need representing our program.
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DCFL, no. If the game comes down to that single guy this year then UT wouldn't have won anyway.
It is just hypocritical to condemn Richt while saying Meyer was in the right allowing this guy back on the team.
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 4, 2008 at 5:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
McRimJob doesn't know what a plea bargin is or how it works. It is called a "plea bargin" because the criminal gets the "bargin" of being convicted of a lesser crime in return for his gulty "plea". This saves the DA money and time because they don't have to go to trial.
Posted by VolFanInAtl on August 4, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
SavageO, 12:56 - "If this club goes 10-3 w/ 1 of those wins being the bowl game, would you consider the season a success?"
Was 2007 a success? If you say "no" then how can it be successful for 2008?
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 4, 2008 at 5:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If we go 10-3 and one of the losses is an upset I'll be hppy. That means we have to beat UF, Auburn, or UGA for me to consider our season a success. We can't keep losing to the big boys in our conference and be seen as a big boy anymore.
Posted by Bass_Vol_1998 on August 4, 2008 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
if we play 14 games it will be a success. How much of a success will depend
Posted by volguy41nlouisiana on August 4, 2008 at 5:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
HMMMMM.....heres the answer to the AK-47 question i suppose....this is from a Florida paper referencing an incident with a FLA State player.....))))So just in case you missed it, Preston Parker, probably Florida State’s best offensive player, was arrested late Monday night in Palm Beach County and charged with possession of marijuana (4.81 grams) and carrying a concealed weapon (a .45-caliber automatic handgun).
The drug charge is a misdemeanor. The gun charge a felony. And that’s bad news, of course, for Parker’s future at Florida State. Oh, and here’s another thing: The Tallahassee Democrat reported today that Parker had been arrested in 2006 for attempting to swipe a CD from a local Best Buy, a crime that didn't show up on Parker's criminal record. Nonetheless, the drug/gun arrest isn’t his first. Which brings us to these questions: What will happen to Parker? What should happen to Parker
SOOOOOOOOOO....I think that would be a felony
Posted by thesavageorange on August 4, 2008 at 6:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
VolFanInAtl ,it was a step in the right direction, but not totally.Now everyone on here knows I'm not a CPF basher or call for peoples heads ,but follow me for a second.If we had not lost the way we did against UF and Bama and were atleast competitive I would say yes.The way they closed did give me hope for the D.On to this yr.I guess if we go 10-3 and beat either UF,UGA, or AU, are very competitive against the other 2 ,beat bama, and maybe slip to USC on the road then I would say the 08' season would be a success.The one thing I don't think I can take is another loss to a very mediocre bama team, especially at Neyland.Bama will be very good in a yr or 2 ,but does not have equal SEC ready personell as of now.In other words I can live w/ 10-3 under those circumstances, but have expectations of 11-2.
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 4, 2008 at 6:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
volguy41nlouisiana-
That may have been a felony because of the drugs he was also in possession of. The UF player's was probably a felony for a differnt reason (it was an assault rifle and he discharged it in the middle of the city).
Posted by GreenDevilVol on August 4, 2008 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 4, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
LargeOrange making a bet that won't pay out until January. LOL!!!!!!!!
Wouldnt that be WHEN it pays out;"A season bet".
Workinlikeanidiotanditshows!!
Posted by GreenDevilVol on August 4, 2008 at 6:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by sjt18 on August 4, 2008 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Let's see... Fulmer revoked a guy's scholarship and suspended him for half a season for getting drunk and running into a parked car... Meyer reinstates a guy who committed a felony... Yeah. Meyer is a real disciplinarian.
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Wilson received probation after pleading no contest to misdemeanor charges of battery and discharging a firearm in public.
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sjt..again, you post without knowing the facts. Take a break, do some research, then come back to the board when you really know something.
Kindest Regards
Pleading "no contest is an admission of guilt with a lesser sentence". Come back when "you" really know something.
Crappiest regards
Posted by VolFanInAtl on August 4, 2008 at 6:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So it's not if you win or lose, it's how you play the game that counts?
If last year's victories had been more solid and it's defeats had been more competitive we would consider it a successful year.
Success is also marked by improvement, year to year; game to game.
I guess I can get on board with that.
But we gotta beat Bamma... a-men.
Posted by thesavageorange on August 4, 2008 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
VolFanInAtl , exactly my friend.
Posted by thesavageorange on August 4, 2008 at 6:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Because if you play the game the right way w/ the athletes we have, the W's will be there much more often than not.
Posted by BAMABLOWS on August 4, 2008 at 7:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mcbrim , you slow down and listen to yourself, you are trying to defend your guy firing an ak-47, not a pistol ,let me say it nice and slow an A K 4 7, I dont give a crap who you are,or what kind of charge it brings, its an ak47 what the heck is he doing with this type of weapon.
Posted by BAMABLOWS on August 4, 2008 at 7:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i would be pissed if he were a tenn player for being so stupid. ok he shoots the gun in the air ,trying to intimidate the other guy , what if the other guy pulls out his ak47 and sprays about 20 holes in him? players are stupid for putting themselves in these positions , i dont care if its florida , tenn , uga , or anyone its ignorant
Posted by VolFanInAtl on August 4, 2008 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Savage: agreed... and hold out hope for that "Special Year"
marc_ash at 3:56 p.m.
Are we giving Clawson credit for the G-Gun or was that guy talking about something else?
Is there any G-Gun footage from last year?
Posted by VolFanInAtl on August 4, 2008 at 7:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/...
Clawson passed out of the formation.
Posted by vol1994 on August 4, 2008 at 8:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
listened to the joe biddle on 560 am in nashville today on my way home from work.
Same ole same ole for UT they said going
9-3 most likely and best case 10-2.
Unfortunately they are probably correct but I have a strange feeling we are going to have a superb year and go 10-2 or 11-1.
call me crazy but........
I think crompton will play within the scheme of things and make the necessary plays when needed such as scrambling for a first down.
My main concern is the front 7 but When I talked to chavis in june he said he was impressed with this crew and depth would not be as much as a concern as the media thinks.
The coaches have a chip on their shoulders and I there appears to be a swagger that has been missing for the past few years.
So with that said, anyone agree that 11-1 or even 12-0 possible or am I dreaming? I still think 10-2 is feasible.
Posted by rockytop47 on August 4, 2008 at 9:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
who is the moron! Pleading no contest is not pleading guilty. I am police officer and firing a weapon in a public place is a felony. Reckless endagerment, unless you play football at UF. Then it is a misdemeanor! You know like breakng and entering (Joiner). Which sunddenly turns into trespassing at UF if you play football, start and needed to play LSU.
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 4, 2008 at 10:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Look at McRimJob! Ha Ha! He is so happy that he was finally right about something that he's blowing his load all over this thread talking to himself.
Posted by VolFanInAtl on August 4, 2008 at 10:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
12-0 possible? ... without a doubt
Posted by LargeOrange on August 4, 2008 at 11:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok based on the past several posts, I am guessing that my betting that UT doesn't go 7 - 5 is probably a good investment? JerkingLikeHeck you are a fool. I will recall your stupid, as usual, posts when I cash in my season bet of over/under 8 wins. ROTFL at you again MORON.
Posted by KAvolsfan on August 5, 2008 at 3:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Jesse Palmer said today on Espn 2 that South Carolina would finish 3rd in the east. Is anybody giving us a chance besides for Mark May this year?
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 5, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
LargeOrange, thanks for answering my question moron. You are going to laugh at me because you made an even bet that won't pay out for 4 months? Again, the sportsbook thanks you (and laughs at you). Also, I am glad that you were able to answer tha question of what offshore service you use to open up a credit line with? At a casino yes. At an offshore betting service, Nopee!!!!! What a loser. LOL!!!!
Posted by marc_ash on August 5, 2008 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
http://www.rockytoptalk.com/2008/8/5/...
Continuing the discussion on the Single Wing.
Posted by marc_ash on August 5, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
On Dave Clawson's new system:
"As I guessed as an EDSBS Visiting Lecturer, it is apparently a spready-type, West Coast-ish (emphasis on the "-ish") thing. It's also apparently quite complex. Josh McNeil calls it "really complicated," Brandon Warren says "he's never seen anything like [it]," and Gerald Jones thinks it's "a whole lot harder than Cutcliffe's offense." How much of the complexity has to do with The Incredible Flipping O-Line, we don't yet know, but I suspect that that's only a small part of it."
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