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Sophomore Brent Vinson remains buried on Tennessee's depth chart.
After playing in every game last season and starting 10, Vinson was listed as a third-team cornerback in UT's preseason media release.
Defensive backs coach Larry Slade said Vinson did not practice with the first team Monday during UT's closed practice.
"We'll see what happens," Slade said. "It's a great competition."
Vinson declined to comment on why he has yet to regain his starting position.
UT coach Phillip Fulmer said Vinson is close to, if not, 100-percent recovered from offseason shoulder surgery in January, but still said that could be a factor.
"He's coming off a shoulder injury and there's a lot of competition there (in the secondary)," Fulmer said.
Vinson is listed behind sophomore Dennis Rogan and senior Antonio Gaines at the right cornerback position.
Freshman Report: Fulmer said freshman Steven Fowlkes from Banneker High School in College Park, Ga., has moved to defensive end from wide receiver.
"He's a heck of an athlete," Fulmer said. "He's got a great attitude. You don't always get receivers that are anxious to go over there and play defensive end.
"He said, 'Coach whatever you want me to do. I'm blessed to be here.' "
Another freshman, Ben Bartholomew from Montgomery Bell Academy, has been practicing at linebacker. One of the more versatile athletes in the 2008 signing class, Bartholomew could also get a look on offense, likely at fullback, according to Fulmer.
Bartholomew could also play tight end or H-back.
Practice Report: The Vols will hold one more practice in shorts and shoulder pads today before practicing in full pads Wednesday, the first day of full contact. Fulmer said UT had "a little bit of contact" Monday.
To deal with the heat, UT held a long break in the middle of Monday's practice. A scheduling quirk should also help. Because of class conflicts, the Vols have moved their afternoon practices back an hour.
Center Josh McNeil said UT's offensive line is practicing like five returning starters, which they are.
"For the first three days we've started off pretty strong," the junior said. "Usually the first couple of days there's a lot of mistakes and people are rusty."
Comparing Coaches: Tailback Montario Hardesty is playing for his second running back coach in two years. Last year, it was Kurt Roper before he left to be the offensive coordinator at Duke. This year, it's Stan Drayton, who coached at Florida last season.
"I think he's been pushing us a little bit harder," Hardesty said of Drayton. "I'm going to work hard regardless of the coach."
Happier Returns: Safety Eric Berry was asked at UT's media day Saturday if he wanted to play on special teams.
"Yeah, I want to block for Rogan," the sophomore said. "We want him to take it to the house (on punt returns). That's our goal.
"We told him, 'We'll take care of the other stuff. You just get by the punter this year.' "
Berry joked about Rogan eluding defensive backs and linebackers but being tackled by a Vanderbilt punter last season.
"Then, he got tackled by a punter two or three times this spring," Berry said with a laugh.
Berry Blitz: Berry said UT's experience on defense will mean more wrinkles this fall.
"They've put in a lot of new coverages and formations," he said. "Right now, they've (the coaches have) been talking to me about blitzing a little more.
"I think Chief (UT defensive coordinator John Chavis) feels real comfortable about the defense this year. He's back in the lab. I think he has a lot of trust with us."
Berry said he blitzed only three or four times last season.
"Sometimes, it's fun," he said. "It's just not fun when a 6-8 tackle gets a hold of you."
John Adams contributed to this report.
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Posted by volwalk on August 4, 2008 at 11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am SOOOOO ready for September 1. Lets GO VOLS!
Posted by young_vol on August 4, 2008 at 11:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
players like fowlkes is more what we need. it really is a blessing playin in the orange uniform, and him feelin like that just lets me know he'll do watever it takes to make us champions. don't worry bout vinson he'll be back he is a hell of an athlete but like I said before competion will make the secondary stronger. go vols!!!
Posted by VOLS85 on August 4, 2008 at 11:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Glad KNS is pumping out the articles now, no qualms!
Posted by Michael1204 on August 4, 2008 at 11:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
the more competition at the positions, the desire to get better as a player becomes greater. Better players and desire to get things done creates success. And to quote a certain Pat Summitt, "success breeds more success."
Posted by ONUV on August 4, 2008 at 11:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
fire larry slade
Posted by jfg1980 on August 4, 2008 at 11:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Vinson behind Gaines? Questionable to say the least.
Posted by utchris2003 on August 5, 2008 at 12:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This could be a motivation tactic.
Posted by LargeOrange on August 5, 2008 at 12:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Great article Mr. Hooker, I can't wait until John Adams is getting your coffee for you in the mornings :-) Seriously, I have to love this quote, "Safety Eric Berry was asked at UT's media day Saturday if he wanted to play on special teams. "Yeah, I want to block for Rogan," the sophomore said. "We want him to take it to the house (on punt returns). That's our goal." This team is going to be special, mark it down.
Posted by Kosmo on August 5, 2008 at 12:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Ben Bartholomew one of the more versatile athletes in the 2008 signing class?" hahaha I didn't know hooker got paid to write jokes.
Posted by gobigorange on August 5, 2008 at 12:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I HOPE THE DEFENSE REMEMBERS HOW TO TAKLE it has been poor for past few years GOVOLS
Posted by gobigorange on August 5, 2008 at 12:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
TACKLE sorry
Posted by sjt18 on August 5, 2008 at 1:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DCFL,
Vinson based on last year's performance should be a starter but the other guys performed well enough in the Spring for him to be listed 3rd... the funny thing is that if he played for UF he'd be the best CB you had by a very wide margin.
Posted by zbbb10 on August 5, 2008 at 1:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
dennis rogan is gonna be a star before all is said and done. consider me on the steven fowlkes bandwagon as well. GO BIG ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by yemmusdarb on August 5, 2008 at 1:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't see how Vinson is behind Gaines... why just because he's a 6th year player?? He's also 5-9 and will get owned by tall receivers. Vinson is 6-1 and proved he could hang last year, while Gaines has never really proven anything.
I'll trust the coaches with this one, only because the secondary is so deep there should be no reason to play favorites. If someone wants to cry or transfer, so be it. We also have about 39 CB/S/athletes committed for next year so we look to be going to a 2-1-8 defense next year anyway.
Posted by forkball on August 5, 2008 at 7:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bartholomew will knock you into next week.
Posted by iowavol on August 5, 2008 at 7:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Good stuff except for the kudos Dave is throwing toward Jack A Adams. I wonder if this is Dave's way of showing support for a guy the volunteer consensus hates. Adams is worthless. This article is not.
On the other hand, it could be a way to get Dave's comment count up. Pretty smart Dave.
Posted by General_Watermelon on August 5, 2008 at 7:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I told you that Rogan was the man. He has Harvin speed (fastest 40 on the team) and can do it all.
Posted by orangebloodgmc on August 5, 2008 at 7:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
When it all shakes out I think the cb's will be Vinson and Willingham, but coaches are probably just sending a message that nothing will be just handed to them, they gotta work and earn it or move out the way.
Posted by leedsvol2007 on August 5, 2008 at 8:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think you'll see a very even spread on snaps among the defensive backs. That will bode well for the 4th quarter where all will be fresh.
This potentially could be the best secondary group we have had since the late 60's early 70's.
It will be fun to watch.
Posted by Ironcity on August 5, 2008 at 8:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Nafslov just because your white doesn't make you a lousy football player. You really make some strange comments.
Posted by GreenDevilVol on August 5, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
NEWS FLASH...........
Mcbrim is J.Adams.His isp address was traced to the KNS !!
Posted by SemperVol on August 5, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Vinson, you'll be aight. Just get healthy, we know you have the talent and know-how. Anyone on here going to the game in UCLA?????? I AM! In case it wasn't mentioned on TV last year, we had Berkeley inundated in orange last year. I hope we can do the same in Pasadena.
Posted by gotvols on August 5, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Please read the entire article. Vinson is coming off of a shoulder injury. You have to get your team together and get the chemistry going. If Vinson gets healthy enough, he can try to beat him out. Until then, he will remain where he is at. You don't want your number one corner playing at less than 100%.
Posted by Greyback_Vol on August 5, 2008 at 8:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Fulmer said freshman Steven Fowlkes from Banneker High School in College Park, Ga., has moved to defensive end from wide receiver."
Wow, that's kind of a transition. At least he'll have enough speed to generate a pass rush.
Posted by SemperVol on August 5, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
On another note, how about Steven Fowlkes? What a kid...."Coach whatever you want me to do. I'm blessed to be here." That's the spirit of a true Vol. He makes me proud and I don't even know him. Sounds like he would have made a beast of a WR. Moved to DE?!?!?
Posted by Greyback_Vol on August 5, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm pretty sure Chavis will find a way to get Vinson on the field, even if he doesn't start.
If Chavis and Slade really are working on Eric Berry blitzing more then I feel sorry for SEC QBs this year, especially with the 12-15 pounds of muscle Berry has added. Ouch!
Posted by kimjasontaylor on August 5, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Only reason Vinson is listed at 3rd string is because of the shoulder..not lack of talent..others have stepped up and can play too..the coaching staff knows what a talent Vinson is and want to keep him healthy..he's only a soph and you HAVE to give a shoulder injury time to heal properly if you want to tackle and play at a top speed..he'll get there so enough
Posted by adamsck on August 5, 2008 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am getting so bullish on the Vols. If Chief can make the defense good and Crompton is adequate we can be good. If Chief pulls a 2005 and Crompton excels we can be great. GO VOLS!
Posted by mikevol on August 5, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What has been missing from the Tn running game is a good blocking full back. Go Bart..
Posted by Hopson2008 on August 5, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Semper - I'm also going to the game, I can't wait. My prediction for the first offensive play of the game is a wheel route to Foster (see the Kentucky game last year).
Vinson will be a starter, he is just now recovering from surgery. Even if he doesn't start, we will be rotating corners a lot anyways with the depth in the secondary.
Posted by MemfrisVOL on August 5, 2008 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
G'ARNGE!
Posted by VolFanInAtl on August 5, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"I am getting so bullish on the Vols" - I know what you mean. With the state of the other teams in the SEC east, this year could either be very good or very bad.
Posted by VolGraduate on August 5, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
chill girls...vinson will play plenty. he's probably getting back into shape and learning the new schemes
Posted by SemperVol on August 5, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hopson my man we will prevail. I was so elated to find orange company in Berkeley. And then we filled half of their stadium. Sad outcome, but fun trip.
And oh yes, I remember the wheel route...65-yard romp for six! This is my first game since graduating from UT last fall. I'm a proud ALUMNI and will follow the Vols ANYWHERE....Even into that mosquito-ridden cesspool of a refuse pit they call Gainesville. I did last year. Maybe I'll have better luck as an ALUM.
Posted by RichRollin on August 5, 2008 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh no here we go again. What is it with these favorites? Fulmer loves his seniors. Let me guess, once we lose to Fla. or Aub. then he will plug Vinson in. 6'2" 195 4.35 40, thats NFL stuff. Gaines did not start untill last year because he was not GOOD ENOUGH. Don't you get it? He's another Jarrod Parrish and after we get torched by a team with real athletes everyone will see that. Now Rogan on the other hand, the sky seems to be the limit for this kid, and he knows it. He is gonna leave us with MANY great stories by the time he leaves here.
Posted by RichRollin on August 5, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DC, you continue to talk yourelf into a hole. Why was Fla. recruiting 5* Vinson if he would not make your special teams. It's bad enough you sniff our n#ts all day, but your just straight LYING. So take your LIES and go back to your weak websight, that is if they have not BOOTED you off.
Posted by RichRollin on August 5, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Besides DC, you better quit wastin your time on here, and go find Timmy TEBLOW and tell him Eric Berry is gonna be BLITZIN' this year!!!! All SEC QBs had better take heed.
Posted by SemperVol on August 5, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Big tree fall hard, DC.
It's not about size. It's technique, angle, speed, agility...especially when he'll be standing there waiting for a WR to get open against this blanket of a secondary.
Posted by UTvols12342000 on August 5, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
so you concur that Rich is right then DCFL? Vinson was a 5* recruited by Florida and he would be in the mix to start with that pathetic bunch you have back there now.
Posted by RichRollin on August 5, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DC you have the imagination of my 8 yr old son. Don't take that the wrong way, he is in gifted classes. Maybe your MOMMY and DADDY should go to your 3rd grade teacher and get you put in Gifted Classes, I bet you would qualify. Maybe not, gifted boys would know how to spell their favorite players name, TEBLOW!
Posted by sjt18 on August 5, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
OK DC... Whatever you say.
fwiw, the Hargrave coach (who has seen more than his share of future NFL players) said that Vinson was an absolute freak and natural CB. He said he'd be great as a WR but a 1st rounder as a CB.
Pierre-Louis was a 2* coming out of HS. Haden is a converted QB.
Just accept reality DC. Vinson is a much better athlete than either of those guys.
I know that you have this delusion that UF is better at every position and that as soon as they put your uniform on they suddenly become 10 times better than before... but you are just wrong on this.
If Gaines starts in front of Vinson or Rogan it will be a travesty. If Rogan, Willingham, or Johnson start in front of Vinson... that basically means that UT has a two deep than none of your guys could crack.
Posted by HotlantaVol on August 5, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DC - Size doesn't necessarily matter. Regardless of his nickname, Tebow is not Superman. He can be knocked down. Hard. Here is a good example of why Tebow should beware of Berry, even though he is smaller.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yScioc...
Posted by cjraney on August 5, 2008 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
RichRollin-
To DC, "It's bad enough you sniff our n#ts all day..."
Good stuff man.
Posted by Bass_Vol_1998 on August 5, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow dc, sounds like Timmy gave you an orange shower and you refuse to wash it off.
Don't forget what Berry did in our bowl game (p.s. we won our bowl game). He almost KILLED their qb- seriously I was afraid for his life. Timmy may still be playing scared like he did against UGA anyway.
Posted by RichRollin on August 5, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
All I'm saying is that he can hold a conversation as well as you can DC. That either makes him really smart or makes you really S-L-O-W.
Posted by VolGraduate on August 5, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
the chuck norris jokes were mildly humorous until all the florida jort wearers decided to insert tebow's name...by the way didn't tebow get hurt last year thus the 4 losses???....and i know the answer..."it was the defense"...bullsh!t
Posted by HotlantaVol on August 5, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DCmoron: a figure of stupidity revered by mcbrim and hated by those of intelligence. Known to frequent Chinese restaurants located in former pet stores that never had a going out of business sale.
Posted by cjraney on August 5, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DC, the reason people on this Vols site don't like you is b/c you have zero objectivity. If you're only interested in spouting homerisms and biased views the place to do it is on your team's site.
Til then, keep sniffing the Vols' jocks and lovin it.
Posted by Bass_Vol_1998 on August 5, 2008 at 11:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shar...
Here is some coverage from Tony Barnhart on his daily football blog. Seems pretty reasonable- so most of you won't like it.
Posted by SemperVol on August 5, 2008 at 11:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Attacking 8-year olds now, DC? Your true colors are showing through now. Have a little respect about someone else's children. It seems the real child is yourself.
And pay attention to the articles. Vinson is still nursing his shoulder so he's sitting out a few practices. He hasn't had his job taken over. Shoulders are important elements in tackling.
Posted by sjt18 on August 5, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DCFL, he began the season @ WR because that's what UT's coaches promised him. He moved over to CB and won the starting job. While working in a secondary made up of one JUCO JR, one Sr, and two other Fr... AND while playing with a "trick" shoulder that he learned how to pop back in himself without leaving the field (but with incredible pain)... the guy improved all year.
Vinson didn't move to CB until after the UF game. He played CB in just 11 games and only started about 8 after he won the job. He recorded the most pass break ups @ 7 and an INT.
Pierre-Louis with the benefit of 3 years in the program, a full fall camp, and a full season @ CB... had 3 passes defended and no INT's.
Haden compared better with 12 passes defended and 1 pick but played all 13 games at CB plus had the benefit of prepping all summer and all August to play CB.
Had Vinson started last summer as a CB instead of a WR, he would be getting these pre-season accolades in spite of his shoulder.
Posted by sjt18 on August 5, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
BTW, UT's pass D got better as the year went along. A big part of that improvement was the progression of Vinson.
UF's pass defense stunk at the start and really didn't improve very much through the season.
Posted by sjt18 on August 5, 2008 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
No folly DC. Just pure old fact. Stop watches don't lie and neither do stats. Popularity polls on the other hand are notoriously subjective.
Posted by orngejuice on August 5, 2008 at 11:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
stop feeding the troll
Posted by RichRollin on August 5, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DC this is a long clip that you need to watch, consider this an educational experience! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HkG4U...
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 5, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
sjt and being wrong go together like a horse and carriage. LOL!!!!!
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 5, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Good link BassVols. One thing I didn't find surprising was that Fulmer did this interview over a meal:
“I was doing my film study during the spring and when David was here I might have had one page of notes on things I wanted to ask him about because we knew each other’s thoughts. We had worked together a long time,” Fulmer said over breakfast."
Posted by auttat on August 5, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Is Florida the only team UT plays this year? Shut up with this crap! Even the damn team is talking like that. DCFlorida can say whatever he wants. 59-20 remember?
UT plays UCLA in Pasadena in a 9/1. Only game that matters right now.
Posted by RichRollin on August 5, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sorry COACH auttat, but if a Fla. chump comes on here spewing filthy lies then I'm gonna step.
Posted by RichRollin on August 5, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The View?????? Just as I said, you speak nonsence. The VIEW????? Oh my god!!
Posted by TommyJack on August 5, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DCf: Let me get this straight. A gatorloper is advising a TN fan what to post here...then tells him to leave. What's wrong with this picture? Go to GGX and watch boys kiss.
Posted by VolGraduate on August 5, 2008 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"...then i'm gonna step"
oh chit watchout we have another BOAsoldier on our hands...you do NOT want rich to "step"
Posted by jeremyinitalia on August 5, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
see you in Pasadena!
Posted by VOLS85 on August 5, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What Tommy said...
This Florida crap is getting old...
Posted by BillBrasky on August 5, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DC- a.k.a Dumb Chotch......You obviously have your jorts in a wad over your team. First of all there is no reason for a moronic Gator fan to be on this site. 2nd of all anyone who understands football can tell youre an idiot who never played, or played at a sh!tty high school.
"Haden and Pierre-Louis are all-SEC selections at cb. Vinson isn't even a starter for UT. If Vinson can't start at UT, there's no way he supplants two all-SEC cb's. In the immortal words of John Adams, "facts are stubborn things." VINSON STARTED 10 GAMES LAST YEAR. HE'S AN F-IN STARTER AND WILL BE COME SEPT 1ST. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR JORTS.
Posted by longtimefan on August 5, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I personally like Rogan to start at corner. like his style of play. he's a little fireplug who will hit.and to you Gutter fans, since according to you Tennessee is outmanned at every position, should tennessee go ahead and forfeit the game to keep from being brutalized and totally devastated? just seeking your advice since there seems to be nothing you guys dont know. thanks for coming to this site and sharing all your wonderful knowledge with usuns. respectfully
Posted by sjt18 on August 5, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
nafslov back with the race baiting again I see...
Fulmer probably knows more about Bartholomew's abilities than you do... yet you automatically trash the melanin challenged kids, huh?
Posted by sjt18 on August 5, 2008 at 12:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DCFL, that's a joke. I make a few mistakes because I DO THE RESEARCH... which means I am talking out my ___.... Yet you spout off things out of pure ignorance and are wrong about half the time... and you are some kind of genius? Give me a break.
You and your cheerleader workin' certainly belong together....
I apologize for making a mistake. Indeed, Wondy (LOL) had 2 INT's. That's something for a guy who has been around for 3 years, played CB all year, and played with both arms healthy... but just excuse me for not being impressed or backing off from the FACT that Vinson is a unique athlete.
I've never said nor claimed that UT was better at every position. UF is definitely deeper in talent. However there are places where UT is just plainly better... and this is one of them.
Posted by General_Watermelon on August 5, 2008 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DCflorida - I have watched a lot of Tennessee football - more than I care to admit. I will tell you this - this has to be the two most talented safeties the Vols have ever had as a group. Morely and Berry are outstanding and I really do not know who is better between them. I know Berry is the fan favorite, but Morely will light you up. He looked like Dale Carter as he nearly decapitated a WR trying to make a catch in the O&W Game. He also had an IT and several pass break ups. The secondary is the least of our worries.
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 5, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think Vinson will win out a starting job before the fall practices are over. If he doesn't he'll still be on the field at DB for several plays in each game in the Nickle and Dime packages. Hopefully our d-line can get to the QB on 1st and 2nd down envery once in a while so we'll have a reason to use those packages.
For the record, I scooped KNS on this one. It isn't very hard. All you have to do is go to Volquest.com and you'll be able to read the same news that GVX is going to post about two days early.
Posted by VolGraduate on August 5, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
vinson will at least start by the florida game and will out play the florida third string all-sec selections.
Posted by sjt18 on August 5, 2008 at 3:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Vinson will start unless he has some type of discipline issue we don't know about.
DC, for UT fans, it is great to be arguing about who will start in the secondary because the competition is at such a high level. Last year UT started the season with: Hefney, Parrish, Gaines, and Johnson.
Hefney and Parrish were relatively slow. Neither comes close talent wise to Morley, Berry, or even Rogan as a safety.
Johnson and Gaines are "good" players but neither IMO should start. UT has 6 guys at least as good but probably better than these guys were last year.
He's buried somewhat in the depth chart but a RS Fr named Fleming has real talent as well.
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 5, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm starting to get the feeling that nafslov just copies and pastes his same post on every thread with a slight variation here and there.
Posted by TommyJack on August 5, 2008 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Naffy: I believe that you need to pay reparations to Manning, Seivers, Bates, Bartholomew, Rogers, et.al. No dollar amount could compensate them for the harm you've done.
Shame.
Posted by RockyTop31174 on August 5, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Its Football Time In Tennesseeeeeeee!!!!!" Remember "We Urge You To Pay These Prices...And Please Pay No Moooooore" I LOVE IT!!!!
Posted by iowavol on August 5, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
nafslov, please man, don't make the other guys arguement for him. Tell him you are vol fan by the Grace of God, you just went to school in Florida.
Posted by RichRollin on August 5, 2008 at 4:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The View??? Come on DC. Volgrad at 11:43, you know what I mean.
Posted by invisiblekid on August 5, 2008 at 7:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
No doubt Vinson should be starting if healthy by the opener. Hard for me to put too much trust in the secondary coaching though when I think about the starting lineup in the Cal game. Parrish didn't belong on the field as a starter plain and simple.
DCFL, a little education on Vinson. He made the switch from offense as a true freshman after seeing time at WR last year and started 10 games. Was hurt in the GA game but continued and didn't miss a start the rest of the year. This coincides with him not being named a starter given the off-season surgery to correct the problem. Not that it counts for much, but he was named freshman All SEC by Rivals and I believe they do know a little bit about talent.
As far as Vinson starting at FL or who is better, who knows and it really doesn't matter at this point. Keep polishing those 3rd team All SEC preseason trophies for your secondary players and we'll see who winds up at the top when it counts at the end of the year. I think your guys will be much improved but I wouldn't discount Vinson based on what's going on in August quite yet. The kid has a ton of raw talent and the upside that will come with health and more experience.
Posted by rclarkvols on August 5, 2008 at 7:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Eric Berry reminds me of Roland James only faster
Posted by pdhuff on August 5, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Doldrums.
They need to end.
Posted by Navalorange on August 5, 2008 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DC, YOU ARE FULL OF MAJOR SH_T PERIOD. Berry, who is acclaimed all over the country as one of the , if not the, best safety in NCAA football, WITH SIZE to boot. Super stud Timmy gets hit by Berry at full speed while he is standing in the pocket OR moving around. HE GOES DOWN HARD PERIOD. If you think just because he is a big strong QB that he can take something like that,then you my friend know NOTHING about the game.
Posted by Navalorange on August 5, 2008 at 8:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You UF fans need to understand one thing. TT is a very good college QB, maybe great. He cannot defy the laws of physics or gravity. His nickname is superman. He is NOT ACTUALLY the storied comic book character. He is a football player. He has even been tackled before. He has even lost games. Please get a grip on reality. You make yourselves look MORONIC.
Posted by philfan on August 5, 2008 at 8:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Berry said Chavis is back in the lab. I take that to mean Chavis will be doing some innovative things on defense, and he sugested there would be more blitzing. I believe Berry and can't wait to see the Vols on the field against all the teams but especially Florida and Alabama. And I agree with Navalorange at 8:32 p.m. Gators think Tebow is Superman (I have seen the T-shirts) but Superman never gets broken hands and bruised shoulders like Tebow did last year. The Gators had better be more concerned about protecting the Chosen One instead of asking him to sacrifice his body. No human can take this kind of punishment week after week without loosing a bit of his edge.
Posted by philfan on August 5, 2008 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sorry, loosing should be spelled losing.
Posted by Navalorange on August 5, 2008 at 9:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If UF had enough nads to play us later in the year you would have seen first hand how much Berry(the freshman) had improved.
Posted by AlWilson on August 5, 2008 at 9:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DC- Nobody is saying Tebow can't runover people. All we are saying is that if Tebow is in the pocket reading the defense and Berry comes in full speed he will feel it in the morning.
Posted by Navalorange on August 5, 2008 at 9:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok, Rico McCoy
Posted by Navalorange on August 5, 2008 at 9:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As Neyland said, in the game of football if a safety blitzes, which is what we were talking about, the QB will not have a full head of steam. And DC, just like your Clawson comments. You are just kidding yourself. Berry would be one of the best two or three athelete on most D1 teams. Sorry man, UT has it's "superman" too, and It's EB. Your wishful thinking doesn't change that fact.
Posted by FWBVol on August 5, 2008 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DCflorida, at least we UT fans are being annoying about Berry on a Volunteer driven site.
I respect Tim Tebow for what he stands for with his faith, and I think he's a great player. However there are some smaller guys, not that 210 pounds is small, that can bring the wood on the football field.
I've seen plenty of small guys that flat out chop down big trees. I believe Eric Berry can drop Tebow. I also won't be surprised if Tebow can break a tackle by Berry or even Demonte Bolden.
When all is said and done though the bottom line is Tim Tebow is a man, not the God he serves.
Posted by orangebloodgmc on August 5, 2008 at 10:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey DC, gonna be some Tebow snot knocked flyin.
Posted by FWBVol on August 5, 2008 at 10:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm a UT grad and a Volunteer fan. I don't care about the Gators until Florida week. The only reason I'd read about them before then is if I can't get to sleep and need something that will help me nod off.
Posted by sjt18 on August 6, 2008 at 10:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't want Berry taking Tebow head on. Tebow is bigger. However, I would like to see Tebow and Gerald Williams head on and believe that might be the more likely scenario. MLB vs QB.
Fulmer's comments about Vinson make it sound like his issues are academics and not ability.
Posted by sjt18 on August 6, 2008 at 10:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DC, I wouldn't get too excited... They don't sound good at DT and sound a little desperate for back ups.
I also wouldn't get too stoked about CB's making plays against Newton.
That DE could be the best player on your team to include Tebow. He'll be hard to handle. Spikes is good but to be honest your LB unit is pretty much standard fare for the SEC. Most teams have good LB's for some reason.
Posted by invisiblekid on August 6, 2008 at 4:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Personally, I would rather see Dan Williams make a quick break off the line and bust Tebow right under the face mask with the top of his helmet then lift him off the ground and finish the deal by planting him in the turf. At 310lbs, I think he could make it happen.
Berry versus Tebow head-to-head just doesn't work from a physics standpoint, F=MA etc. etc., but a nice blitz from the backside and nailing Tebow in the back at full speed would be a nice sight.
Posted by junder13 on August 6, 2008 at 6:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DC is right on a lot of posts here. I, for one, hope we don't have to see this ignorantly imagined scenario of Tebow vs Berry, b/c if we do, that means Tebow is running into our secondary!!!
Besides, any logical person should know Tebow at 230+ would easily run over Berry (even though he's ridiculously good) at 200 or so. If questions remain, watch Tebow run over our 230+ LBs last year. Berry would, at best, be able to take out his knees.
Most of you guys say the dumbest things (like the "MBV wrecking crew" which I called out months ago b/c Vinson was, at best, mediocre last year, injured or not).
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