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Nelson needs knee surgery, won't play in 2008

By Dave Hooker (Contact)
Originally published 07:10 p.m., August 7, 2008
Updated 10:39 p.m., August 7, 2008

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Tennessee suffered its first setback of fall camp when defensive tackle Chase Nelson was ruled out for the season Thursday. The junior injured his left knee during Tuesday’s practice.

Nelson will undergo season-ending surgery next week to repair a ruptured patella tendon after an MRI Wednesday revealed the damage. He played in just four games last season before suffering a serious wrist injury.

Nelson was being counted on to provide depth in a position of concern for UT.

“It’s a tough loss for us,” UT coach Phillip Fulmer said following Thursday’s practice at Haslam Field. “I feel kind of sorry for him because he’s had one thing after another.”

The loss forces two unproven players to the forefront: sophomore Victor Thomas and freshman Donald Langley. Each is trying to establish himself as one of UT’s top four defensive tackles, as Nelson nearly had done.

Thomas and Langley have a chance to take an early lead in the competition for Nelson’s spot in Saturday’s full-scale scrimmage, the first of fall camp.

“It’s a really big day for us to step up and show the coaches that we’re capable,” said Thomas, who played in two games last season.

Senior Demonte Bolden and junior Dan Williams are the projected starters followed by senior Walter Fisher, who is expected to be the top reserve.

Then, there’s that fourth spot vacated by Nelson.

Defensive tackles coach Dan Brooks spoke highly of Langley’s offseason effort, calling him one of the team’s hardest workers. Other than that, there’s not much to go on.

Langley missed the first two days of practice to be with his mother who was dealing with a “significant medical condition,” according to Fulmer.

Now, Langley is working his way through the NCAA mandated acclimation period in shorts and shoulder pads. Saturday’s scrimmage will be his first practice in full pads.

“We’ll find out a lot about Donald Langley on Saturday to see if he has improved as much as we think he has,” Brooks said.

As for Thomas, Brooks said his consistency and speed need to improve in order for him to be counted on.

Junior defensive end Andre Mathis will slide inside to provide some depth at tackle. Brooks described Mathis as a player who gives great effort but far from a finished product.

“He’s got to buy in and take coaching and he doesn’t play well with his hands right now,” Brooks said of Mathis, who signed with UT as a linebacker in 2005.

Brooks seemed mostly pleased, although not satisfied, with Bolden and Williams.

“I think they have made progress,” Brooks said. “They’re a whole lot different than a year ago because they’ve played a lot of football.

“We were so inexperienced last year.”

Brooks knows he could be facing that scenario again, especially if the injuries don’t stop with Nelson.

“It happens. We know that,” Brooks said. “Defensive tackle is a place where you can’t have enough (depth).”

ape Talk: After reviewing the tape of Wednesday’s scrimmage, Fulmer said he was pleased with several of his speediest players.

“Our two safeties played really well,” Fulmer said, referring to Demetrice Morley and Eric Berry. “Our top four receivers played really well.”

That would be Austin Rogers, Josh Briscoe, Gerald Jones and Lucas Taylor.

Offensive coordinator Dave Clawson said he was particularly impressed with Taylor, who didn’t practice this spring because of a handful of nagging injuries

“I’m really happy that Lucas Taylor is healthy,” Clawson said. “It’s been fun to work with him. He’s a good player.

“He works hard at it and he’s really smart. There’s no question he gave us a little something extra we didn’t have in the spring.”

Install Info: Clawson said UT has installed approximately 90 percent of its new offense. That’s at a lightning pace compared to the slow and steady approach the Vols took in spring practice.

Clawson said all that’s left this preseason is to install specialty packages, such as short-yardage and goalline.

“We wanted to throw a lot in early and see what we’re good at,” Clawson said. “I don’t want to say we’re handling it great but I’m really pleased with it.

“It’s exceeded my expectations how much carryover we’ve had.”

Clawson attributes the carryover to his players’ dedication in voluntary summer workouts.

Once the complete offense is installed and evaluated, which should take about a week, Clawson said he’ll start identifying what the Vols do best and create a more succinct offense for the season.

Slowed and Stopped: Guard Darius Myers admitted he had an advantage Wednesday during the Tennessee Drill when he lined up across from fellow sophomore Ben Martin, one of UT’s speediest defensive ends.

The 240-pound Martin’s game is all but predicated on speed, which doesn’t help when the 315-pound Myers lines up in the Tennessee Drill. As you might expect, Myers won convincingly.

“He’s pretty fast off the edge,” Myers said. “You don’t have to worry about speed (in the Tennessee Drill).”

Following practice, Myers couldn’t help but smile.

“It was real fun to get out there and get some contact in,” he said. “I’ve got a headache right now so I’m still feeling good about myself.”

© 2008, Knoxville News Sentinel Co.

       153 Comments

Posted by el_duderino on August 7, 2008 at 7:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bummer, get well and come back strong next year.

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 7, 2008 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That is just about the worst thing that could've happened. Of all the damn positions where we could not afford to lose a guy for the season. DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!

We'll miss ya big guy! Get well soon.

Posted by utfpmd on August 7, 2008 at 7:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh Crap! How many DT's do we have?

Posted by et_vol_fan on August 7, 2008 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah really..can't afford to lose one of those guys. Get well.

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 7, 2008 at 7:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

utfpmd-

We are very thin at DT. We have two guys that look to be solid starters and Chase was one of the few others that looked like he was going to be ready to step up and give us some good minutes this year. Someone is just going to have to man up and we really can't afford to lose another one... knock on wood.

Posted by yemmusdarb on August 7, 2008 at 7:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I seriously wish we'd never recruited this kid. He seemed over-rated at the time, to me, and has done nothing to prove otherwise. This was his 4th season (redshirted) and now he's injured.

Now we're down to 4 DT's and V. Thomas really hasn't proven himself either. Right now is where you'd wish Fulmer and co. would've looked ahead to the future and realized they didn't have enough DT's. Rather than recruiting 487 DB's they should have recognized shortcomings.

If someone else goes down (knock on wood) it's pretty much over for us, especially if it's Bolden or Williams.

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 7:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What do we do when we run out of d-linemen? wont be the last one we lose! dont see everybody staying healthy with this tough schedule. hope they have a backup plan. my biggest fear and practice just started. OUR DEMISE! (always something)

Posted by sjt18 on August 7, 2008 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yemmus, They recruited Melancon AND C Hall to be DT's but neither qualified academically right away. They probably had Thompson last year before the Jones/Paige non-sense.

They are thin but not all of the reasons were controllable or due to a lack of planning.

Posted by sjt18 on August 7, 2008 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, not to be insensitive at a time like this but Nelson seemed to be dragging up the rear. He looked like number 6.

Posted by ONUV on August 7, 2008 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

recruiting players that don't qualify is a problem, not an excuse. if there's anybody to blame, it's the coaches.

Posted by cjraney on August 7, 2008 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't wish it on anybody, but UF and AU have already suffered significant losses as well.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sec

Posted by IPOrange on August 7, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

2 DBs = 1 DT. No problem. We're loaded with DBs.

Posted by thesavageorange on August 7, 2008 at 7:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IBleedOrange444 ,I guess I was wrong about a sprain.Torn patella tendon.They are going to have to play Ayers inside alot more now, so someone will have to step up at DE.

Posted by smokey90 on August 7, 2008 at 7:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt your right about Melancon, Hall and don't forget Sykes. Melcancon was the biggest bust. And Nelson was probably 6th, but I thought we really need six DTs.

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 7, 2008 at 7:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I thought that Nelson was going to be the 1st one in off the bench. Who do I have him confused with?

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 7, 2008 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Walter Fisher, to answer my own question.

Posted by IPOrange on August 7, 2008 at 7:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Is Rae Sykes on again or off again? I thought he was ready to go this year.

Posted by sjt18 on August 7, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

savage, any chance Hughes gets in? If he doesn't, who do you think are the best candidates to convert?

Just judging from a short glimpse in the Tn Drill, D Thomas could be the man.

Posted by sjt18 on August 7, 2008 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, savage, what have you heard about Darren Myles?

Posted by sjt18 on August 7, 2008 at 8 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IPO, it looks like R Williams, Sykes, and Hall are all DE's. Hall may be big enough to slide inside but they say he's more natural on the outside.

Hall is also having some academic difficulties.

Herbert and hopefully Hicks should provide some immediate help at DT. UT is also still actively recruiting some very good HS DT's.

Posted by cjraney on August 7, 2008 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So we should probably expect to see G. Williams getting time at DE to compensate for Ayers shifting inside.

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 8:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Savage, Waste of talent and speed to play Ayers inside. I think he was ready to become an impact player on the outside. find the biggest guys on campus(300-350lbs) get them to walk on,plug em in the middle and the hell with it!

Posted by tngeoff on August 7, 2008 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dang again. Include also Yikes!

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 7, 2008 at 8:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wish it were that easy longtimefan!

Posted by IPOrange on August 7, 2008 at 8:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt - thanks for the info. Prospective DTs should be standing in line to sign up with the Vols. They're badly needed and would have the opportunity to see immediate playing time.

Posted by txsvol on August 7, 2008 at 8:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Our coaches recruit a number of LBs, rather than DTs, because they expect some of the LBs to grow into DEs. And, some of the DEs grow into DTs. If the guys recruited as DTs are too slow, they move to the OL, or to the bench. But, our coaches don't want to recruit DTs unless they can play. If they don't qualify initially, maybe prep school or JUCO will qualify them a year or two down the line. Tough break for Chase Nelson. Go Vols! SAVol

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 8:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IBO, I know its not but this gets so frustrating! every year there seems to be one position on the team that keeps us from being really good. I think the offense is good to go, no problem. but defense? might have trouble stopping the run.

Posted by thesavageorange on August 7, 2008 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18 , it's a 50/50 on Hughes.If he doesn't make it(the silver lining) he is in good enough academic shape to go to Hargrave.At worst we lose him 1 yr.As far as converts.....Jarrod Shaw & Brimfield.I stand by what I've always said, I think we will get Myles in the end.His dad handles recruiting ,and we know he likes Tennessee.The only time I see Myles say anything is on my space(secured), and usually he just talks about this
and that.I believe Myles,Brown (said most likely), and a ton of others will be in for the UF game including several 2010 guys.These guys get to know each other pretty well and talk online alot.

longtimefan , they don't have a choice.I believe Gerald Williams is going to look like a savior by seasons end.He is definately ,no question ,moving down to DE now.

Posted by thesavageorange on August 7, 2008 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18, if we lose Myles I think it's to LSU.He is originally from the New Orleans area and Myles has made it clear that Steltz is gone and he'll play.

Posted by alfrizzle097 on August 7, 2008 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

With the good secondary, look for a lot of run blitzing. Williams might end up playing Middle Linebacker so he can get some mo and lay the hit in the hole. Assuming he can read defenses that is. Linebackers probably won't have nearly as much to do with pass coverage as they did last year.

With the ends being so athletic, we should be able to force qb's to step up at the least. If the DTs can just occupy one person each, the linebackers should be free to rush. Won't be great if the DTs don't have a lot of depth, but it won't be the end of the world. Trust in Chavis. The ability to play man will be huge.

Posted by KingsportVol on August 7, 2008 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Chavis you better start taking some of our DB's to Golden Corral with you. Chase get well soon. See you on the playing field next season. Good luck.

Posted by Ironcity on August 7, 2008 at 8:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have never heard so much whining over a third string tackle in my life. If we had lost a starter, or a player who has made an impact before, I might be more concerned. Our issues are no better and no worse. Langley will do fine and we really only need 4 DT at the most.

Posted by thesavageorange on August 7, 2008 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by thesavageorange on August 7, 2008 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18, if we lose Myles I think it's to LSU.He is originally from the New Orleans area and Myles has made it clear that Steltz is gone and he'll play.

I meant that Les Miles has made it clear.

Posted by RichRollin on August 7, 2008 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That gives us 4 DTs that can play, not good! Longtime, Ayers will only play DT on passing downs which may give us a different look. Don't get me wrong, this is not good news, but it is not the equivelant of JUSTIN HARRELL going down, so lets not get ahead of our selves. The past 2 years we have only been 2-3 deep at DT, this year we are 4 deep with Ayers making it 5 on passing downs. If V.thomas does what he needs to that will give us 5 true DTs. Plus lady luck has not been on our side thelast 2-3 years with injuries. We can ILL afford to lose another DT, but would you rather it be Bolden or this cat?

Posted by RichRollin on August 7, 2008 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Besides, Gerald Williams could not have came at a better time, but lets not forget about Ben Martin and Chris Walker. Suddenly we should be pretty deep at DE which should allow Ayers to be more flexible and play 10- 12 snaps at DT per game.

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 8:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ironcity, Its not whining. Its called concern. im glad you think we dont have a problem with depth.could become a BIG problem with another injury or two.(HEAVEN FORBID!)

Posted by invisiblekid on August 7, 2008 at 8:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bad news at the position at which we could least afford it. Hopefully, Nelson makes a full recovery.

Ironcity, Coach Fulmer disagrees with you:

"UT coach Phillip Fulmer said he would like to play five tackles and five ends this fall."

Third string or not, Nelson was part of the plans and it's within the realm of possibility that another injury could happen over the course of a season.

Starting to wonder if it's time to give the 3-4 another look. If Williams lives up to expectations, he could be a real weapon as a stand up guy or playing with his hand on the ground.

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 9:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RichRollin, I see your point but we might need Gerald to play linebacker. im not sold on the linebackers either until i see that first game. we have got to get some pressure on the quarterback so our dbs dont get hung out to dry. i think they have a chance to be special.

Posted by VolsorCat on August 7, 2008 at 9:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think it is time to start looking at those "former" d lineman riding the bench on offense. Didn't Brimfield and Richard come here at DT's? Surely to God they can find some depth at DT, even if they just clog things up. Williams and Bolden will start. Fisher, Langley and Thomas are off the bench. Montori Hughes may have to play immediately. Outside of that, there are walk on DT's, which might work in CUSA, but not against Florida, Bama or Georgia. Use the last 8 scholarships in 2009 for DT's and DE's. They could play immediately......

Posted by pdhuff on August 7, 2008 at 9:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dang, is the bell toiling in pre-season?

Sorry for the lad, this one hurts.

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 9:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VolsorCat, 230lb linemen wont cut it either in the SEC.havnt they already converted a couple of linebackers to de? remember they like small speedy backers. i wouldnt count on Montori. he's a project.

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 7, 2008 at 9:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How 'bout Robert Meachem. 2 Catches 57 yards at the half! Can you say Wide Receiver U?

Posted by VolsorCat on August 7, 2008 at 9:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Longtime: Lineman, not linebackers Richard is 295 and Brimfield is 6'6" 300+. I was being sarcastic about the walk on's. Just trying to make a joke about a depressing situation.

Posted by invisiblekid on August 7, 2008 at 9:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VolsorCat, correct on Brimfield and Richard. I think Richard has become too much of a valuable commodity on the O line to make the move back. I would think they might take a look at Brimfield on d line again as a last resort. If they felt he could cut it, they wouldn't have made the move in the first place.

Posted by invisiblekid on August 7, 2008 at 9:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Not too far removed from the truth in talking about walk-ons on the defensive line, anyone remember Matt McGlothlin?

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 9:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Volsorcat, I know they are linemen but i was thinking of the Cris's, Walker and Donald i think.are they not de's now?

Posted by invisiblekid on August 7, 2008 at 9:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One last note, Hughes hasn't made it through the NCAA clearinghouse(not to be confused with the publisher's) as of Monday.

Posted by orangebloodgmc on August 7, 2008 at 9:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Y'all take it easy. Before this happened our coaches said they planned to play 5 guys at DT. After losing Nelson, here are 5: Bolden, D.Williams, Fisher, Langley and V.Thomas. The Tennessean article said that Langley had the best "motor" and that Thomas had made the most improvement in offseason weight room. Sounds like Bolden may finally be getting motivated and another article said Fisher is ready to challenge for one of the 2 starting spots. I am seeing 5 DTs. Then if one of those should get hurt, THEN Ayers could slide over some to give 'em a breather, but don't see it required right now.

Posted by young_vol on August 7, 2008 at 10:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I just read the post and not to sound sensitive but but stop all the negativity. this kid didn't go out there and say gee I'd like to have season ending injury today. I feel for this kid my brother had the same injury kast year in high school and it is painful phiysically but more mentally cause u work so hard and it all gets taken away in one play. that's why u play every down like its ur last. nelson stay up baby come back next year and be the best damn d tackle in the land.screw all the negative fans. go vols!!!

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 10:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

orangeblood, they've been saying that about Fisher for two years now. seems like they cant decide where to play Thomas and Langley has no experience. I dont want to be a pessimist but how can anybody think this line will be any better than last year.(total flop)hope im wrong!

Posted by orangebloodgmc on August 7, 2008 at 10:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Longtime, I think Langley was injured some last year; I know Nelson was. They say Bolden has a new attitude. All of them are stronger, with strength coach Johnny Long singling out Langley for mention before anybody else as to weight room progress. Do you think these guys will have backslid and be worse than last year? Do you think they will be a year less mature and less experienced? We're not predicting miracles, just an increment better, to go along with our secondary that should be significantly better and lbs -- who knows, maybe about same, as a unit.

Posted by budrhon on August 7, 2008 at 10:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Can anyone tell me what's going on with Darius Myers? Is he too slow to move to the Defense?

Posted by orangebloodgmc on August 7, 2008 at 10:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh,and I forgot the DEs. It sure sounds like they will be more athletic and fast, and if they put more pressure on the ball, I would think it would help the DTs as would better coverage from the dbs.

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 10:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

younganddumbvol, Did you lose your fooler? who dont feel for this kid? and these posts has nothing to do with your brother. grow up!

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 10:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

orangeblood, I think they are better, sure but how much? how many plays can Bolden and williams go a game? my main concern is depth.THE UNKNOWN

Posted by RichRollin on August 7, 2008 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You guys KILL ME!!!!!! If we were to recruit a stud 4* DT in this years class, you guys would JIZZ all in your britches. Langley was a 4* DT, and just because he was not ready to step in as a Fr. in the SEC does not mean he is a scrub. Mark my words, he will jump W.Fisher into the 3rd spot by mid season.

Posted by pammyvol1000 on August 7, 2008 at 10:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Savage your amazing.. where do you get all this info?

Posted by RichRollin on August 7, 2008 at 10:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Long time, who did we have to back up Bolden and Williams last year? That's what I thought! We are not out of the woods until our back up DTs prove themselves, I'll give you that! Atleast we have back ups this year and they will help keep legs fresh. Don't sleep on Langley, that's the last time I'm gonna tell you.

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rich, Look how long its taken Bolden! wasnt he a 5* and will he be the man this year? someone else on here said we could get some top recruits for the line next year and play as freshmen. next year? freshmen? we need them now so our defense wont end up being our weakfense!

Posted by orangebloodgmc on August 7, 2008 at 11:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So far we got a juco guy, Herbert, coming in next year, and if Montori Hughes has to go the prep school route he'd be a second one, but a year older than a true frosh. Chillax dudes.

Posted by RichRollin on August 7, 2008 at 11:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are correct about Bolden long time. But Bolden should have been a starter over McGlothlin when Harrell got hurt in 06', HANDS DOWN!!!!! If you refuse to play Langley, you hold up his development as they did Bolden's. Plus you state that someone one here mentioned playing freshmen, that someone was not me. If you think Bolden will be our problem this season then that is your opinion, but I think he is gonna BREAK BONES.

Posted by mparker on August 7, 2008 at 11:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"ape talk" ??? wtf is that??? jeez, the season hasn't statted, and they are calling Phil an ape??
this from me, the king of typos.

"ape Talk: After reviewing the tape of Wednesday’s scrimmage, Fulmer said he was pleased with several of his speediest players.
"

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 11:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rich,I didnt say Bolden would be our problem im just saying ,look how long it took! your fault,my fault,nobody's fault. do we have to wait til Langley's a senior too? why does it take so long to get these guys ready? and orangeblood, Montori? 4 years at best before he can contribute. that's if he gets in at all.

Posted by RichRollin on August 7, 2008 at 11:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Longtime, why are you asking why it takes so long to develop these guys when I just told you why it takes so long?!?!?! Bolden would be even better if he had started after Harrell's injury in 06'. Between the BUDLIGHTS and me having to repeat myself, I'm getting dizzy! I'm gonna let you have this one longtime.

Posted by longtimefan on August 7, 2008 at 11:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

NOW PLAYING LINETACKLE-ANDRE MATHIS! Nothin to worry about huh?

Posted by RichRollin on August 7, 2008 at 11:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What the HE!! is linetackle?

Posted by newtonrail on August 7, 2008 at 11:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hold it. Slow down. This is getting me dizzy. Ayers isn't going inside!!! Hall, Sykes,and one another DL who escapes me are still in JUCO, and will be in 2009 class. Besides Mathis, we may suddenly find an OL with enough speed to play in an emergency.

Posted by longtimefan on August 8, 2008 at 12:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rich, im agreeing with you.Whats changed though? oh one more thing and i'll shut up. what good is a 240lb DE with speed against a 300lb lineman since holding is apparently legal now? how many times have you seen DEs being tackled in the backfield? thats a discussion for another day but one of my pet peeves!

Posted by longtimefan on August 8, 2008 at 12:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rich, sorry thought you went to bed. Linetackle is a new position the UT coaches came up with where you recruit a 4 or 5* 220 to 230lb linebacker and move him to tackle.put on some weight son and you might get some playing time in 3 or4 years. we like small linebackers here

Posted by longtimefan on August 8, 2008 at 12:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

im suprised the coaches havnt thought about signing 200lb DBs and moving them to linebacker! oh wait, they have! I guess they would be(BackBackers)

Posted by xvolx on August 8, 2008 at 12:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I just watched some clips on w.brimfield at d. end and d. tackle. he looks like the best to move over to defense.

Posted by sjt18 on August 8, 2008 at 12:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

savage, I know what you are saying but still don't believe that GWms will play at DE except on passing downs. With Mathis moving inside that should leave them basically where they were before... a smallish guy playing the 5th or 6th DT slot. Mathis is still kind of a tweener between what Chavis wants a tackle or DE to be.

Posted by sjt18 on August 8, 2008 at 1:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

richrollin, not that its that much help but they actually have 5 guys: Bolden, Williams, Fisher, Thomas, and Langley then six if you add Mathis.

Posted by RichRollin on August 8, 2008 at 1:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Longtime, linetackle could also be used to describe the DTs that have been moved to O-line! Hard for me to believe that Vlad Richard can't play DT. He straight murders fools when on O-line. Yet and still, until someone from the 2 deep rotation goes down I will not get to uptight. Cornelious Griffen for the Gators, that kind of injury for our team will make me shiver.

Posted by RichRollin on August 8, 2008 at 1:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

C.Ingram from Fla. is what I meant, sorry. BUDLIGHTS,MMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

Posted by longtimefan on August 8, 2008 at 1:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rich, Maybe they just thought at the time they needed him more on that side of the ball. who knows, he may move again. but if he's as good as you say he is there then i dont see it happenin. Cant wait to see em play! somethin different about this team! GO VOLS! BEAT the BRUINS!

Posted by RichRollin on August 8, 2008 at 1:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well said longtime! Night,night.

Posted by tngeoff on August 8, 2008 at 3:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Losing Nelson is a major disappointment. We are hurtin' on the d-line. I hope he makes a full recovery.

In the big hits and the guy who absorbed them must be the real superman department...I give you these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRIF_Q...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvro9N...

I mean...how this guy even finished the game is beyond me...and to almost pull it out after getting beaten like a drum! Dang!

Here...anothergreat memory of that game as we think about what is to come:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYhAiH...

Earlier Gerald Jones:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxLBAb...

Another budding superstar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0mI3n...

Bring on the Bruins!

Posted by txsvol on August 8, 2008 at 4:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Langley will probably be All-SEC freshman DT when the season is over. He's strong, and has a motor. Go Vols! SAVol

Posted by budrhon on August 8, 2008 at 5:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Darius Myers can he move to Defense?

Posted by lilvolcoach on August 8, 2008 at 7:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks tngeoff for just getting me excited for upcoming year. This year very well be awesome. These guys look fun to watch. If we throw in the 3-4 scheme some, that would really throw some teams off. Remember a few years ago when Chavis broke out that defense where the DL was walking around and nobody put a hand down, something of that nature could be lurking.

Posted by iowavol on August 8, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What's going on with Langley's mother? I was in Appleton when they recruited him and folks were fairly upset about him leaving Wisconsin. I sure hope she recovers so Luke doesn't feel compelled to be closer.

Posted by tngeoff on August 8, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

lilvolcoach.

You're welcome. By the way...when Coach Chavis did use that unusual defensive scheme it seemed to work every time and I was surprised he didn't stick with it! It has to throw off all blocking schemes and create general chaos for the opposing offense.

Posted by orangebloodgmc on August 8, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Iowavol, I was pretty sure Langley was from Maryland. Now Raymond Henderson was from Wisconsin; are you thinking about him, maybe?

Posted by tngeoff on August 8, 2008 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Anybody know where GerryOP's been?

Posted by General_Watermelon on August 8, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is not the end of the world to be down to 3 quality DT's as we have plenty DB's.

Posted by tngeoff on August 8, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It will give Bolden an excuse to throw out in a poor performance.

Posted by pdhuff on August 8, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gen W,8:53- a very astute observation. We are on our way to the Grail under fearless leader. With the 2-9.

We fear no evil. Slurp.

Posted by invisiblekid on August 8, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Orangebloodgmc, agree with you on moving Ayers to the middle. He may help out a few plays here and there, but I think he showed too much ability on the outside last year to be used much to plug up the middle against bigger O linemen. 6'3" and 270lbs(and more than likely playing at less) going against 290lb+ O linemen doesn't work long term ususally.

Posted by General_Watermelon on August 8, 2008 at 9:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Give the starters watermelon to improve their stamina so we don't have to rely on backups. Ooops, wrong kind of stamina.

Posted by marc_ash on August 8, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 7, 2008 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That is just about the worst thing that could've happened. Of all the damn positions where we could not afford to lose a guy for the season. DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!

Actually, it could have been MUCH worse. It could have been Bolden or Williams.

Posted by VolFanInAtl on August 8, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Who is Stephan Darville? Why is he on the roster?

Posted by tngeoff on August 8, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

VolGraduate and WorkinLikeHeck.

Please proceed immediately to the arena:

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2008/a...

Any interested posters may also go to the arena to witness the competion and add questions.

Posted by RichRollin on August 8, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Orangeblood, youare correct my freind. Langley is from Maryland and is gonna have a good year, jumping Fisher for 3rd DT spot is on the horizon for him. I'm not sure that is saying much though, concidering Fisher has done didilly squat since coming here. People call Bolden a bust, are you kidding me? If there was ever a bust it would have to be W.Fisher. Invisible kid, whether you like it or not Ayers will play DT on some 3rd downs and I'm all for it. How quickly do we forget a 275lb. Turk McBride who was 1st team all SEC. He did that facing double teams because HARRELL was out and coaches were to DAMN STUBBORN to plug a young Bolden in. Either he plays 10-12 plays at DT or we stay 3-4 deep at DT, which still is not very deep in SEC. Plus that gets Ben Martin more snaps.Ayers in the middle as 4th-5th option is far better than this 3rd stringer that people are SOBBING over. With all due respect, some of you are acting the way I did when Harrel got hurt.

Posted by pdhuff on August 8, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gen W 9:14, it is rumoured that the dumpster behing McNeil's apartment is overflowing with rinds.

Posted by uahvol75 on August 8, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Anybody heard anything about that HIcks kid from JC Sacremento?? I thought he was close to signing nearly a month ago..

Posted by THE_VOL on August 8, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The position with the least depth (other than QB) on the team and they've already started falling. Tough break for Nelson, hope all goes well for him. The STORM is brewing. Will there be any new excuses from FOOLmer this go round?

Posted by smokey90 on August 8, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The biggest bust at DT IMO was Melancon because he never made to UT. Bolden and Fisher are contributing something. Supposedly Nelson was improving in practice, which adds something to the team. I am confident in Langley, too. Maybe a pleasant surprise.

lilvol I expect to see someone in the SEC try some 3-4 against the spread offenses in the future. The spread is about mismatches. Quick linebackers are going to match up better than big linemen against the speedy playmakers. And then mix in some of that "walking around" DL formation like Chavis did against Florida in 2001. It may throw a spread offense out of timing.

Posted by volchiq on August 8, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I didn't read all the comments to see if anyone has brought this up, but check out what I read at the Tennesseean.

"Allen hedging on UT offer: LSU’s recent courtship of 5-foot-11, 250-pound fullback Dominique Allen has the Henry County High standout re-thinking his spring commitment to Tennessee.

Allen said Tuesday that an unofficial recruiting visit in late July to Baton Rouge — where he had a lengthy meeting with LSU Coach Les Miles — has muddied his commitment to the Vols.

“I’m keeping my options open,” said Allen, who rushed for 1,616 yards and scored
31 touchdowns last season for Henry County.

“I liked it down there (at LSU). They told me they really need me and they really use the fullback.”"

This is why I hate early commitments. Kids and other schools (UT included, I imagine) don't honor them and they are basically useless.

Hopefully we will hold on to him.

Posted by BigOrangeVol on August 8, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

24 days, 8 hours, 15 minutes.

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 8, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

RichRollin-

Coaches told Volquest that they wouldn't be moving Ayers to DT. Here's an excerpt. I hope this isn't copywrite infringement.

In some years, moving a large end like Robert Ayers inside might be an option—as the staff did with Turk McBride a few seasons ago—but Brooks points out that with the situation at end also stretched, that's not really an option for this year's team.

"You don't really replace him, someone else has to step up. Robert's too valuable at end, so we have to push Donald Langley, we have to push Victor Thomas to the front," Broosk said of the challenge.

Posted by BornNBredAVol on August 8, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hey that's my job! and the official count is 24 days 8 hours and 8 minutes

Posted by PaulTheVol on August 8, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by iam4ua:

"UH OH!!
Rick Neuheisal is already developing a plan to run it down UT's throat."

Hey UA, go back to bed with your sister and stop lowering people's IQ with your inbred postings.

Posted by RichRollin on August 8, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ibleed, I agree, Ayers is awesome at DE. But if need be he may have to play DT. He did play some DT last year, guess noone remembers that. We seem to be much deeper at DE than DT by the way.

Posted by VolFanInAtl on August 8, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

iam4ua should know all about cheetin' Neuheisal

Posted by thesavageorange on August 8, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IBleedOrange444 ,they won't move him their permenately, but they have maintained he will move inside on certain situations.

Posted by smokey90 on August 8, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

According to Media Guide we are thin at DE.?

Posted by grvol on August 8, 2008 at 12:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Fulmer's continued failure to recruit D tackles is killing them. That is why Vols are so far behind LSU, FL, GA, AU and now AL. Put big McClendon over there. Or is he too wuss.

Posted by VolFanInAtl on August 8, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://govolsxtra.com/news/2008/aug/0...

"The Volunteers open their Southeastern Conference schedule by hosting Florida, then going to Auburn. They could play well in both games and still be 0-2 in the SEC.

That would not be a good scenario for 17th-year head coach Phillip Fulmer, who did receive a contract extension but is coming off a rocky offseason with a series of player arrests, including an embarrassing DUI for punter Britton Colquitt which earned him a five-game suspension."

"Given the tough early schedule and the inevitable mistakes a first-year quarterback makes at any level, but particularly in the SEC, an 8-4 or 9-3 record seems likely."

Wow, thanks yahoo. You've obviously done your homework. Our coach will undoubtedly be on the hot seat again, our kids are all hooligans, our quarter back has never played before and even though we have played in the SEC for 10 years we couldn't possibly know how hard it is to be competitive.

Who writes this stuff? Why does it have to be so negative?

Posted by VolFanInAtl on August 8, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nafslov: not sure if I understand the question... I was making reference to Neuheisal's questionable (cheetin') past.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/con...

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 8, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

6 years and counting with DT concerns. Yawn.

Posted by GoshDarnGoodFootballPlayer on August 8, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Workin -

As ridiculous as this sounds at first, if we have a legit D-line in 2003, that team has an outside shot at playing for the BCS title becasue Auburn would not had been spotted a 21-0 lead by ramming the ball down our throats. 11-1 put them in the SEC game, and even though it is a stretch, most die-hard LSU fans will tell you that LSU team wasn't that great.

Just a thought. Out there, but a thought.

Just goes to show the importanance of the D-line and how lack of quality and depth there can kill an otherwise pretty good team.

(See 2006 as well.)

Posted by GoshDarnGoodFootballPlayer on August 8, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nafs -

You're right, he only lead us to back to back wins in the Swamp for the first time since the 60s, played with a broken collar bone for 2/3 of a season, beat Miami in Miami, went 3-1 against Bama, as well as other stuff.

I figured you would like him. Most around here always thought he was too thug. Guess you still can't look past skin color you racist prick.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on August 8, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

who's the V? Vinson aka Mr. 3rd string?

Who would have thought we would have missed Matt McGlothlin aka Buzzsaw as dubbed by Fulmer circa 2003.

Posted by GoshDarnGoodFootballPlayer on August 8, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Workin -

If you were asking me, I think a legit D-line could have made the difference against Auburn.

They only ran for 264 that night, 185 by Cadillac himself.

Posted by pdhuff on August 8, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GoshDarn 1:39 - Quit ringing that bell about DT's being important. Many choose to ignore that as is their right.

Just wave the shaker and drink the koolade.

I've heard about this great recruiting we're doing and Tony Lemming on CBS sports said this AM Tenn was headed for one of their worst classes in a long time! Said way behind several SEC schools.

Is he wrong or are we having smoke blown up you know where? Rivals doesn't have us in the top 25 if I'm reading it correctly. Ck AJC.com Southern 100 and see.

And on we go.

Posted by 99gator on August 8, 2008 at 2:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pd

i dared to suggest the same thing when i mentioned that they are getting a lot of commitments, but are they getting bodies for the sake of getting bodies.

i was quickly dismissed as a gator nut, but i think the question is an appropriate one.

i am not sure the class is shaping up to be as good as some people think or as good as what others in the conference are going to reel in.

Posted by VolGraduate on August 8, 2008 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99 gator,

i sort of agree. i think they are filling needs with good players but not nessarily going after the "best" players...could end up being good or bad

Posted by General_Watermelon on August 8, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Not a gator nut. Just a nut.

Posted by 10ACVOL on August 8, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

anybody got a link to a good depth chart? I wish I could find one that was actually a chart...

Posted by thesavageorange on August 8, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pdhuff ,are you reading old articles?Rivals updated the recruiting rankings the other day and we were still #14.

Posted by 99gator on August 8, 2008 at 3:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

savage

i will give the benefit of the doubt and assume they scouted well. i will also assume they wanted a group of solid commitments in place so that they could devote their energy to reeling in guys like marlon brown for the rest of the way until signing day.

however, having just looked it up.....florida and georgia have more 4* or better players committed with a lot less players having committed than tennessee.

that's if you believe in all those * ratings in the first place.

Posted by AlWilson on August 8, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This class needs a few 5* studs to put it up there with the best in the country. Fulmer usually finishes strong, but the competition for these guys is only getting tougher.

Posted by thesavageorange on August 8, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator , UF was ranked #13 if I'm not mistaken., and Alabama #15.UGA and LSU are smokin, but UGA is almost done.JUCO's haven't been ranked by Rivals , but scout has Herbert a 4*.If that is the case then we both have 6 4*'s.Being behind UGA & LSU isn't being behind several schools.UF,Miss ST,Alabama, & UT are all lumped pretty close together.

By the way, who is Tony lemming?

Posted by AlWilson on August 8, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Savage- Do you think Fulmer & Co. are just trying to avoid a repeat of last year where they waited on some big names and lost out in the end? Maybe they just want to get a solid base of players and save the last few spots for the real big names that won't decide until February.

Posted by cjraney on August 8, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GoshDarn @ 1.56: Well done.

Posted by cjraney on August 8, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pd-
Have yet to see many say D-line is unimportant or not a pressing need. Have seen a lot who could do without the constant b!tching about it.

Also, LOL @ your 11.14am.

Wave the shaker...beat the Bruins.

Posted by junder13 on August 8, 2008 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator is right and if 99% of y'all on here weren't biased b/c you're UT fans than you'd agree. so far our class is shaping up to be mediocre or average. while not horrible at this point, esp when compared to last year's embarrasing class, is not nearly as good as you bloggers like to rave. I hope they pick it up and get these high quality recruits everyone keeps yappin' about on here.
i still remember the incredible classes we used to get in the mid-90s and we haven't matched the consistency of that time period this decade, imo.

Posted by thesavageorange on August 8, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rivals has us ahead of UF actually.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/...

AlWilson , no.We gave up 1 Troop(recruiting wise) and got 3 in return.

junder13, what?I'm not going to waste my time.

Posted by TommyJack on August 8, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Savage, junder13? Savage, junder13? I'm going with the Savage.

Posted by 99gator on August 8, 2008 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

savage

that's the point. it shouldn't be close.

florida has 8 or 9 commitments. tennessee has 17 or 18.
georgia has 9 or 10 commitments.

based on the number of commitments, tennessee should be ahead by a mile and a half at this point in time.

Posted by AlWilson on August 8, 2008 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Savage- Have you heard anything else regarding when the decision will come down for Warren?

Posted by BigOrangeVol on August 8, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was curious, dug around a little and here's what I found. I'm not counting guys that were moved from the position they were recruited at and were later moved to DL.

Signed in 2002 as DE:

Mondre Dickerson DE 5-Stars 6-4 268 4.57
Moved to DT 2002 & 2003
22 games-58 tackles-5 sacks-3 TFL

Jason Hall DE 2-Stars 6-4 245 4.7
Played DT & DE
2002, 2003, 2004 & 2005
44 games-101 tackles-11 sacks-8.5 TFL

Parys Haralson DE 4-Stars 6-2 235 4.66
2002, 2003, 2004 & 2005
50 games-157 tackles-21 sacks-25.5 TFL

Jonathan Mapu DE 5-Stars 6-3 265 4.8
Played DE & DT
2002, 2003, 2006 & 2007
51 games-65 tackles-3 sacks-4.5 TFL

Signed in 2002 as DT:

Justin Harrell DT 4-Stars 6-5 300 4.8
2003, 2004, 2005 & 2006
35 games-82 tackles-4 sacks-10.5 TFL

LaRon Harris DT 4-Stars 6-3 305 4.92
2003 & 2004
12 games-5 tackles

Greg Jones DT 4-Stars 6-6 265 4.8
2002 & 2003
24 games-43 tackles-1.5 TFL

I'm looking at 2003-2009 right now and will post stats soon.

Posted by thesavageorange on August 8, 2008 at 5:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator , UF has less to give at this point than UT.Check all large classes including our 07' class and you'll find alot of 3* guys.W/ more room you take some project guys, or guys you think are better than their * ranking.Don't get me wrong 99, UF has the beginings of an excellent class, but for someone to make a blanket statement that we are looking at a mediocre class at this point is absolutely false.I haven't read anything from any recruiting analyst saying that UT is doing anything short of a great job so far.We generally don't start this well and close very well.(08' the exception)In our class of 07' 80% of our 4-5* guys commited from Nov-Feb.

I really think the top 6 teams in this conference will stay close together in future yr's talent wise.Most of the top 10 players at any position want to play in this league, and their not all going to the same school.

Posted by BigOrangeVol on August 8, 2008 at 6:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Signed in 2003 as DE:

Jared Hostetter DE 4-Stars 6-5 275 4.7
Moved to DT
2004 & 2006
4 games-1 tackle

Claude (Turk) McBride DE 4-Stars 6-4 235 4.55
2003, 2004, 2005 & 2006
43 games-121 tackles-6.5 Sacks-13.5 TFL

Anthony McDaniel DE 3-Stars 6-7 270 4.6
Moved to DT
2003, 2004 & 2005
33 games-33 tackles-1 Sack-5 TFL

Signed in 2003 as DT:

Zarnell Fitch DT 3-Stars 6-3 280 4.9
Signed with UT but went to TCU.

Posted by BigOrangeVol on August 8, 2008 at 6:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Signed in 2004 as DE:

Xavier Mitchell DE 4-Stars 6-4 245 4.85
2004, 2005, 2006 & 2007
47 games-109 tackles-8.5 Sacks-9.5 TFL

Antonio Reynolds DE 3-Stars 6-3 225 4.7
2004, 2005, 2006 & 2007
49 games-89 tackles-5 Sacks-9 TFL

Signed in 2004 as DT:

Demonte Bolden DT 4-Stars 6-5 294 4.96
2005, 2006 & 2007
26 games-48 tackles-3 sacks-6 TFL

Jesse Mahelona DT 5-Stars 6-2 290 4.85
2004 & 2005
24 games-77 tackles-7 Sacks-19.5 TFL

Posted by BigOrangeVol on August 8, 2008 at 6:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Signed in 2005 as DE:

Raymond Henderson DE 4-Stars 6-5 250 4.665
Kicked off the team

Vladimir Richard DE 3-Stars 6-4 255 5.06
Moved to OL
2006 & 2007

Signed in 2005 as DT:

Wes Brown DT 4-Stars 6-4 245 4.85
2006 & 2007 27 games-40 tackles-.5 sacks-2.5 TFL

Dan Williams DT 3-Stars 6-1 310 5.15
2006 & 2007
20 games-42 tackles-3 Sacks-4.5 TFL

Posted by BigOrangeVol on August 8, 2008 at 6:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Signed in 2006 as DE:

Walter Fisher DE 5-Stars 6-2 265 4.7
Moved to DT
2006 & 2007
23 games-35 tackles-3 TFL

Chase Nelson DE 3-Stars 6-4 255 4.85
2006 & 2007
7 games-4 tackles

Victor Thomas DE 3-Stars 6-4 250 4.92
Moved to DT
2007
2 games-1 tackle-.5 Sacks

Signed in 2006 as DT:

Blake Garretson DT 3-Stars 6-3 277 4.75
Kicked off the team

Jarrod Shaw DT 3-Stars 6-4 344 5.12
Moved to OL
Hasn’t played

Posted by thesavageorange on August 8, 2008 at 6:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BigOrangeVol ,interesting to say the least.

By the way 99, don't forget we have up to 3 guys coming back from JUCO.2 of which are 4*'s.

Posted by TurboFan on August 8, 2008 at 7:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Naf, where's the link?

Posted by BigOrangeVol on August 8, 2008 at 7:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Signed in 2007 as DE:

Cory Hall DE 2-Stars 6-5 255 4.75
Had to go to JC/Prep

Ben Martin DE 5-Stars 6-5 230 4.56
2007
8 games-7 tackles

Rae Sykes DE 4-Stars 6-4 240 4.75
Had to go to JC/Prep

Rufus Williams DE 3-Stars 6-3 225 5.7
Had to go to JC/Prep

Signed in 2007 as DT:

William Brimfield DT 3-Stars 6-5 287 5.7
Moved to OL

Donald Langley DT 4-Stars 6-2 295 4.81
Didn’t play last season

Rolando Melancon DT 4-Stars 6-2 260 4.78
Had to go to JC/Prep

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 8, 2008 at 7:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

savage-

When the heck are they supposed to get here? Shouldn't they be here in practice with the rest of the team? Are any of them looking like they'll be ready to jump right in and contribute?

Posted by BigOrangeVol on August 8, 2008 at 7:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Signed in 2008 as DE:

Willie Bohannon DE 3-Stars 6-3 230 4.75
On the roster

Steven Fowlkes DE 3-Stars 6-5 213 4.65
On the roster

Signed in 2008 as DT:

Montori Hughes DT 2-Stars 6-5 255 5.4
On the roster

So in the last seven years we have only averaged signing 3 DE's and 2 DT's per year.

Posted by thesavageorange on August 8, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IBleedOrange444, January or June.They were 07' signs & JUCO's have to stay 2.Hall looks ready, but is shaky academically.Let's hope he straightens it out, b/c he can play DT.

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on August 8, 2008 at 7:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Savage-

So they won't be here 'till next year then?

Posted by thesavageorange on August 8, 2008 at 7:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes.But they will count in the 09' class that was under discussion.

Posted by BigOrangeVol on August 8, 2008 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DE's that were recruited at LB, walk-ons or transfers are :

Robert Ayers LB
Rob Longworth LB
Andre Mathis LB
Chris Walker LB
Tyler Beaudoin walk-on & former Marine
John Morrison walk-on
Phillip Tritapoe transfer from ETSU

DT's that are walk-ons:

Stephan Darville
Joshua Davis
Jonny Harrison

Since 2002, of the 20 DE's and 14 DT's:
4 are in JC/Prep
3 have been moved to OL (Richard, Shaw & Brimfield)
3 were total busts (Harris, Hostetter & McDaniel)
2 were kicked off the team
1 reneged on his LOI

If we are going to sign so few DL then we need to make sure that those we do sign are going to actually contribute on the DL!

Obviously the coaches are NOT trying to make LB's into DE's or DL's into OL very often.

We've had some excellent DL guys in the last five years. Parys, Jesse, Turk and Justin have done well for themselves. Even Tony McDaniel did well.

Posted by grvol on August 8, 2008 at 9:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Vlad Richerd was recruited as and started out on that side of the ball, move him back over there... or is he too soft?

Posted by gavol2572 on August 9, 2008 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This really stinks! This will show us how this team will handle the injury obstacles.

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