Pennington: Sorting out the Fulmer-to-Kiffin saga

UT Athletic Director Mike Hamilton, left, poses with the new head football coach Lane Kiffin and his wife, Layla, and UT President John Petersen following a press conference Monday in Neyland Stadium Kaplan Center. Kiffin, who becomes UT's 21st head football coach at Tennessee.

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UT Athletic Director Mike Hamilton, left, poses with the new head football coach Lane Kiffin and his wife, Layla, and UT President John Petersen following a press conference Monday in Neyland Stadium Kaplan Center. Kiffin, who becomes UT's 21st head football coach at Tennessee.

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New Tennessee football coach Lane Kiffin, second from right, poses for a picture with his wife, Layla, athletic director Mike Hamilton, left, and UT president John Peterson at the press conference Monday announcing Kiffin’s hire.

From the moment Tennessee football coach Phillip Fulmer announced his forced resignation, the jury has been out, going over evidence and trying to reach a verdict.

“Did athletic director Mike Hamilton make the right move?” “Could Tennessee have waited?” “Could UT have handled things better?” “How would Phillip Fulmer and staff handle the news?” “How would the team respond?”

One month later, we now know the answers to most of the questions we’ve been asking. Here are one man’s opinions on how things have turned out.

“Did Tennessee have to make the move?” Yes. Fulmer had a remarkable run at Tennessee, but the program is in worse shape now than when he took it over. Unlike Fulmer, new coach Lane Kiffin faces a rebuilding job as he starts out. Tennessee went 5-7 in a down year in the SEC … and they did it with more senior starters than just about every other team in the league. That’s not a good sign.

But this was purely and simply a business decision. When a large portion of the fanbase sells their tickets to Alabama fans at mid-season, you know it’s time for a change. As always, fans have the ultimate power. When they decide to stop attending games, a coach who is 12-0 can still be let go. If 100,000 show up when a coach is 0-12, the coach will be kept. This was all business. Think Abe Vigoda in “The Godfather.”

“Should UT have waited to make the move?” No. As we now know, the timing has allowed Hamilton to get the man he wanted and have him in place for December recruiting. When so many people worried about the signing class, the fact that Kiffin is now on the job has to serve as an “ah, so that’s why they did it” point of clarification.

The move also came after a loss to South Carolina (easier than doing it after a win) and it kept the staff from dealing with another full month of speculation. Even though Fulmer and crew said the timing was a mistake, I don’t recall them saying anything about a “three-week funeral” when Majors was forced out with three games to go in 1992.

“What about the negative backlash?” People who played for, played with or have come to know Fulmer and staff would have been upset whenever the announcement came down. The team’s reaction was another matter. Some inside the program viewed the emotional response as proof that a new, more disciplined direction was needed. Personally, I think it was to be expected. And already, it sounds as though the team that was so angry with the Fulmer dismissal is now excited by the new hire. The loss to Wyoming was a disappointment, but having seen this team all year, I wouldn’t chalk that defeat wholly up to emotions.

“How did Fulmer and his staff handle the situation?” Spectacularly. Some had a problem with the coach for not “manning up” during his emotional press conference, but as someone who teared up when the Boston Celtics raised Banner 17 in October, I’ll not hold it against the man that he got emotional. He loves Tennessee.

Fulmer’s situation was vastly different from that of his predecessor, but still, you can tell that Fulmer paid attention to the level of bitterness that festered between former coach Johnny Majors and the UT powerbrokers, the UT powerbrokers and Majors.

When a man says he will help with the coaching search if asked because, “I’m a Tennessee guy,” that’s a special thing. And that’s why Fulmer (and his staff) deserve a round of applause whenever they step back into Neyland Stadium. First class in a difficult, painful situation by all of those coaches involved.

“Did Tennessee win the press conference?” Going into the press conference, no. Coming out of it, yes. Last Sunday, on my television show, I felt the need to defend the hire and say that Kiffin’s track record is too short for him to be declared a strikeout before ever seeing a pitch.

After his press conference, I felt the need to say, “Kiffin’s track record is too short for him to be declared a home run before ever seeing a pitch.” That switch in fan mood can be chalked up to the natural hopefulness of a fanbase plus the confident responses of a new coach. So, yes, for many, Hamilton and Tennessee “won” the press conference.

“Did Tennessee make the right hire?” Way too early to tell on that one. Some folks like Chris Mortensen (ESPN) and Southern Cal coach Pete Carroll believe that Kiffin will be great. Others like Mark May (ESPN) and Don Banks (Sports Illustrated) believe Kiffin’s greatest strength is his ability to win a job interview.

Personally, I think UT should have concentrated on finding a coach who had a proven track record of winning with less (which is what the Vols have right now). Had they done that, recruiting doors would have eventually opened. A Mike Leach or a Nick Saban have proved they can coach an average team up.

But recruiting ability seems to have taken precedence instead. That’s not a terrible thing considering Tennessee’s in-state liabilities, but I’ve seen other great recruiters beach their boats when put in the captain’s chair. Ever heard of Ron Zook or Ed Orgeron?

What we don’t know yet is whether or not Kiffin will be a great recruiter like the last two chaps I mentioned, or a superior coach AND great recruiter as Saban has proved to be.

“What kind of statement did Tennessee just make?” Well, they most certainly were aggressive. There were no “sure thing” candidates on the market this year. Yes, they gave shoutouts to Jon Gruden, Lovie Smith and Bill Cowher, but those were long, longshots and Hamilton knew it.

So they instead went the young, up-and-comer route. And they’re prepared to spend a huge amount of cash on his support staff, which, frankly, is exciting. That’s a different dynamic than what we’ve seen elsewhere in the conference.

So what kind of statement did UT make? “We’ll make bold moves to get back in step with Florida, Alabama, LSU and Georgia.” That’s the statement that I take from the past month, anyway. Whether Tennessee can pull that off or not, well, the jury’s still out on that one.

John Pennington hosts the Hall’s Salvage Sports Source on Sunday at 11 a.m. on WATE.

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GoVols133 writes:

I HATE JOHN PENNINGTON

gohawks1 writes:

Sounded like a well reasoned article to me. Why the hate?

bluetick writes:

I think the timing was right and if Rocky Top didn't get LK someone else would have. Oh well hopefully Leach will end up at Auburn so they can deal with him but we will still get to see how he will work out in the SEC. I really like LK's aggressive start on recruiting so far and surely he'll keep it up. If MK comes to UT I know the Vols will be good. Can't wait to see what the next couple of years bring.

jsm67vol writes:

So informative, not! Its not too early to make that call.

DennisVols writes:

It will all be settled on the field. From what I saw tonight in the SEC championship game Kiffin has his work cut out for him. Not saying it can't be done, but simply stating that from what we saw in UT this year compared to what we saw tonight the differences are clear.

blitzshoot writes:

Waited three years too long. Close the book.

HollySpringsVOL writes:

Why is this considered news and not another worthless opinionated blog? A waste of good bytes and bandwidth, me thinks.

byobbio writes:

I didn't remember that majors was around for three weeks after he was fired. Is that right? I remember he left after the Vandy game. Seems that might be right, not sure.
i think we just need to get Nick Stephens to understand yet another offensive system and with Hardesty in the backfield, we'll be fine on offense. The defense will be good. Nobody's seen Kiffin's defense and that is a good thing.

I think we'll be in the SEC championship in three years.

ncvol writes:

I personally found this article unnecessary. No need to rehash the situation again and again. Let's just see how it all turns out. Hopefully, we will go watch our team run through the T and listen to Rocky Top and win some games.
Go Vols !

NorthwestVol writes:

Seems reasonable to me. Nice summary. We've rolled the dice with a young hot shot recruiter. If he can also coach we may have a winner. If not......

vut56#231073 writes:

I have no clue why some show such "tough love" to John; must be some local issue that is not known out here in the hinterlands.

This article is the best, most insightful and objective summary of the Fulmer/Kiffin story, todate. John's columns are generally more objective, less negative and factual without bias, than any other KNS contributor. If readers do not want to read such, they should not read John; therefore, there would be either no comments or, at worst, neutral ones.

Well penned, John.

NorthwestVol writes:

in response to ncvol:

I personally found this article unnecessary. No need to rehash the situation again and again. Let's just see how it all turns out. Hopefully, we will go watch our team run through the T and listen to Rocky Top and win some games.
Go Vols !

Perhaps. But without these 'unnecessary' articles what would you and I have to respond to? It's kind of slow between basketball games.

CoverOrange writes:

in response to HollySpringsVOL:

Why is this considered news and not another worthless opinionated blog? A waste of good bytes and bandwidth, me thinks.

It's not news. It's an opinion column. Otherwise known as an editorial. One perspective of a writer that's in the business of sports around UT.

Pullingguard writes:

neither positive or negaative and as he said the Jury is out until the pads are on and real games are being played. I do think UT has considerable talent for next year, if you look at the two deep both on offense and defense there are possibilities for a very good season in 09..

NorthwestVol writes:

in response to vut56#231073:

I have no clue why some show such "tough love" to John; must be some local issue that is not known out here in the hinterlands.

This article is the best, most insightful and objective summary of the Fulmer/Kiffin story, todate. John's columns are generally more objective, less negative and factual without bias, than any other KNS contributor. If readers do not want to read such, they should not read John; therefore, there would be either no comments or, at worst, neutral ones.

Well penned, John.

Concur.

pdhuff#552644 writes:

Judge has just ruled.

Kiffin is in.

Fulmer is out.

Tenn moves on to whatever the future holds.

We need to get back to playing the kind of football showcased in Atl tonight.

newtonrail writes:

I've always enjoyed Pennington's Blogs, Articles, and shows. Does he have an ego? Sure. Most successful people do. I do believe the firing could have waited one week, and not cost us the Wyoming game. And it did. We had an off week after that. Agreed with experience part, as I wanted Brian Kelly. Well we have what we have, and will see what happens, and whether I renew season tickets or not.

TommyJack writes:

No problem with the article. What's with the smack down of Pennington?

yeavols#228407 writes:

“Did athletic director Mike Hamilton make the right move?” “Could Tennessee have waited?” “Could UT have handled things better?” “How would Phillip Fulmer and staff handle the news?” “How would the team respond?”

I'll answer all that in this order: YES!, NO!, NO! WHO CARES, and who pays for their scholarships?

ncvol writes:

in response to NorthwestVol:

Perhaps. But without these 'unnecessary' articles what would you and I have to respond to? It's kind of slow between basketball games.

Can't argue with that. Didn't mean to offend anyone.
Go Vols !

gohawks1 writes:

in response to TommyJack:

No problem with the article. What's with the smack down of Pennington?

Not sure. Maybe they're confusing him with Adams.

1982_35_28 writes:

Pennington, you straddle the fence too much. Grow a pair and take a stand like your boss John Adams.

FLAVOLS writes:

in response to CoverOrange:

It's not news. It's an opinion column. Otherwise known as an editorial. One perspective of a writer that's in the business of sports around UT.

Nice Turbo!

LMFAO!

CT_VOL writes:

I hate Dave Hooker!

Frank

UT_VOLS75 writes:

in response to GoVols133:

I HATE JOHN PENNINGTON

LMAO

jcvol#215939 writes:

in response to byobbio:

I didn't remember that majors was around for three weeks after he was fired. Is that right? I remember he left after the Vandy game. Seems that might be right, not sure.
i think we just need to get Nick Stephens to understand yet another offensive system and with Hardesty in the backfield, we'll be fine on offense. The defense will be good. Nobody's seen Kiffin's defense and that is a good thing.

I think we'll be in the SEC championship in three years.

Yep Majors was fired after the South Carolina game that year too .. and coached out the regular season.

utfanatic813 writes:

horrible article!

Huttdawg100 writes:

Well, we know one thing: we have a tenacious recruiter working for UT... I fully expect top recruiting classes year in and year out. What concerns me: the Ron Zook/ Ed O comparisons.... We've had some serious talent play for UT over the last few years, but we can't seem to get over the hump. We need a serious motivator. Someone to inspire his players to overcome the odds. Can Coach Kiffin do that? I hope so.

NorthwestVol writes:

in response to ncvol:

Can't argue with that. Didn't mean to offend anyone.
Go Vols !

No offense taken. I'm just sitting around on a Saturday night wishing for good Vol news for Christmas. I suspect you are doing the same. Maybe a stud DE? Perhaps we malcontents should collaborate on a Christmas list?

1. Defense Linemen?
2. QBs?

Thoughts? My grandson says we need to get the letter in early for good response.

Caspian writes:

I hate people who hate stuff.

ChipKaneisAnIdiot writes:

in response to DennisVols:

It will all be settled on the field. From what I saw tonight in the SEC championship game Kiffin has his work cut out for him. Not saying it can't be done, but simply stating that from what we saw in UT this year compared to what we saw tonight the differences are clear.

Exactly. If anyone thought our old staff could ever compete with the teams we saw on the field tonight, they're delusional. It's a new day in BOC. I'm looking forward to finally stepping into the existing football century.

plzcomebackpeyton writes:

in response to yeavols#228407:

“Did athletic director Mike Hamilton make the right move?” “Could Tennessee have waited?” “Could UT have handled things better?” “How would Phillip Fulmer and staff handle the news?” “How would the team respond?”

I'll answer all that in this order: YES!, NO!, NO! WHO CARES, and who pays for their scholarships?

couldnt have said it better my friend...

NorthwestVol writes:

in response to ChipKaneisAnIdiot:

Exactly. If anyone thought our old staff could ever compete with the teams we saw on the field tonight, they're delusional. It's a new day in BOC. I'm looking forward to finally stepping into the existing football century.

It's a slow night, and I'm not sure why I care, but who the heck is Chip Kane?

VolinCalif writes:

Thank you John! Thank you John! Thank you john! All you Vol fans are just jumping on and off the net looking for anything to read about the Vols. You bet we are hungry and this week has been slow. Look at the time and tell me you haven't been surfing around looking for Vol stories. Good night all looking farward to a merry Xmas.
Love Tennessee, love the vols

volfan1971 writes:

The article wasnt really that bad (or that good for that matter). Bottom line, we need to be a little more accepting of whatever comes next year. Let's hope for a decent season next year as we build towards becoming a dominant player in the SEC and the country. After this year, just about any improvement will be well recd. Kiff will do a good job and make us competitive once again.

ChipKaneisAnIdiot writes:

in response to NorthwestVol:

It's a slow night, and I'm not sure why I care, but who the heck is Chip Kane?

Oh he's this moron that works for a local radio station. If you don't know who he is, you haven't missed anything

west_tn_volfan writes:

in response to jcvol#215939:

Yep Majors was fired after the South Carolina game that year too .. and coached out the regular season.

He was actually let go in memphis when they were getting ready to play memphis state. He was furious and for the next three weeks, he wouldn't speak to Fulmer, even during game preparation. It was a very awkward situation.

bricker865 writes:

I hate all of you.... j/k :)

NorthwestVol writes:

in response to ChipKaneisAnIdiot:

Oh he's this moron that works for a local radio station. If you don't know who he is, you haven't missed anything

Good enough. We have our own set of idiots in the Seattle area.

ChipKaneisAnIdiot writes:

in response to west_tn_volfan:

He was actually let go in memphis when they were getting ready to play memphis state. He was furious and for the next three weeks, he wouldn't speak to Fulmer, even during game preparation. It was a very awkward situation.

I remember that as well. It was more than awkward. Coach Fulmer was calling the offensive plays and his Head Coach wouldn't even speak to him. And vice versa.

BIGORANGEdawgHATER writes:

I Dont speak for everyone im sure but im sooooo damn sick of CBS' commentators wishing or saying that we(UT) should have considered an AFRICAN AMERICAN head coach! Who gives
a damn about what COLOR the damn head coach is as long as he is gettin it done! Im so sick and tired of everytime a change of ANYTHING is made RACE has got to be thrown in the mix!!!!!!!!!Who gives a DAMN what color the man is that brings glory back to the big orange nation just as long as we are winning! Maybe this gets erased or maybe it dont but thats total B.S. I so tired of the media bringin this up its ridiculous!

BIGORANGEdawgHATER writes:

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utmdm writes:

in response to BIGORANGEdawgHATER:

I Dont speak for everyone im sure but im sooooo damn sick of CBS' commentators wishing or saying that we(UT) should have considered an AFRICAN AMERICAN head coach! Who gives
a damn about what COLOR the damn head coach is as long as he is gettin it done! Im so sick and tired of everytime a change of ANYTHING is made RACE has got to be thrown in the mix!!!!!!!!!Who gives a DAMN what color the man is that brings glory back to the big orange nation just as long as we are winning! Maybe this gets erased or maybe it dont but thats total B.S. I so tired of the media bringin this up its ridiculous!

Yes I am. It is an important issue but qualifications are more important. Why is it so important at this specific point in time that we get called out for it, Hmmm??

Timed_vol (Inactive) writes:

Damn, guys, there is a HOT blonde in the picture named Layla, and all you can talk about is football??

WTF, are there no MEN left in America?? Gaurantee you the euros would be saying 'this is a good hire; check out that babe we'll get to look at!!'

Have your women um, WHIPPED you down so much you can't even check this lady out??

C'mon, guys be MEN!! DO NOT SUCCUMB to the FEMINAZATION OF THE AMERICAN MALE!! QUIT CRYING and 'TEARING UP'!!!

I liked us better when we were insensitive jerks.....we (men) where much more fun then.

:)

WeLoveTennesseeVols writes:

in response to gohawks1:

Sounded like a well reasoned article to me. Why the hate?

because an idiot could have written this, and of his track record, who is he to be an authority? Plus Major 's is the one on a 20 year funeral.

khelton657 writes:

In twenty years they will be reciting the Fulmer Maxims:

"I don't know, I'll have to watch the film."

" For every freshman you play, it is a loss on the schedule."

"We had a good week of practice."

"They took it away from us" ( Tight end / Witten)

"Tennessee will always be tennessee" ( predictable)

JBruce writes:

in response to Navalorange:

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Seems like he is "thoroughly" pissing off almost every recruit that he talks to.

Since Monday we have lost one QB (he basically told him to take a hike) and five others have softened their commitments to look elsewhere.

Reportedly, Jarvis Giles and Brandon Moore are not interested any more.

Hopefully Kiffin can rally, but it seems like this week can be chalked up as a loss.

jimr07 writes:

in response to JBruce:

Seems like he is "thoroughly" pissing off almost every recruit that he talks to.

Since Monday we have lost one QB (he basically told him to take a hike) and five others have softened their commitments to look elsewhere.

Reportedly, Jarvis Giles and Brandon Moore are not interested any more.

Hopefully Kiffin can rally, but it seems like this week can be chalked up as a loss.

first, why would he want to bring in a QB he does not think will fit his style?
Your source please on Giles and Moore?
Love you nattering nabobs of negativism.
Have a good day

wyomingvol writes:

THIS GUY GETS PAID????

Couchdummy writes:

in response to NorthwestVol:

It's a slow night, and I'm not sure why I care, but who the heck is Chip Kane?

He is on WNML sports talk radio, and he is obnoxious, arrogant and rude to his audience. When he is co-hosting, or when the caller who calls himself "Hitch" calls in, I quickly change stations.

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