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UT senior players direct effort to end off-field incidents

Vols' legal woes in 2008

JANUARY

11 - Knoxville police cited freshmen wide receivers Gerald Jones and Ahmad Paige for possession of marijuana following a traffic stop near campus while the two hosted a recruit from Oklahoma on his official visit. Freshman offensive lineman William Brimfield who was with Paige and Jones at the time was not charged by police, but was disciplined by Fulmer nonetheless.

21 - UT police arrested freshman tailback Daryl Vereen for public intoxication and underage consumption after responding to a call of a fight in progress outside Gibbs Hall, an on-campus residence hall located across the street from the Neyland-Thompson Sports Center.

26 - Knoxville police arrested junior All-SEC lineman Anthony Parker for disorderly conduct at an off-campus apartment complex.

FEBRUARY

2 - walk-on defensive back Vince Faison was arrested for DUI after UT police found the 27-year-old former professional baseball player passed out behind the wheel of his truck in the parking lot of an on-campus fast-food restaurant with the engine running and his foot on the brake pedal with the vehicle in gear.

13 - Fulmer dismissed sophomores Dorian Davis and Antonio Wardlow for an undisclosed violation of team rules. Both players had been arrested within the last 18 months.

17 - Knoxville police arrested Colquitt for DUI and leaving the scene of an accident, after the punter struck a parked car near the Old City, causing more than $400 in damages.

A group of Tennessee senior football players met with their teammates and UT coach Phillip Fulmer on Monday in an effort to put an end to a recent string of off-the-field incidents.

Since Jan. 11, six UT players have been charged by police, two have been dismissed and another disciplined for their roles in various incidents.

The latest run-in - rising senior All-SEC punter Britton Colquitt's arrest early Sunday morning for DUI and leaving the scene of an accident - prompted a seniors-only meeting Sunday night.

"We met and talked about what can we do to get everybody on the same page and quit those stupid decisions we've been making," said rising senior wide receiver Josh Briscoe, Tennessee's representative on the SEC Student-Athlete Advisory Committee and a student representative on the UT athletics board. "We decided it starts at the head. It starts with our seniors."

Following a conditioning workout Monday morning, those players addressed their teammates. Later in the day, they met with Fulmer.

Personal accountability and accountability to teammates were common threads in all the meetings.

"It falls on our players taking responsibility and being smart about what they do," Briscoe said. "We have a target on our chests when we go somewhere, whether it's students writing things on message boards or somebody trying to make a name for themselves, students or those in authority positions.

"We know that we're going to be watched by the media, by students, by other schools. We have to take responsibility for that, and we have to go out and make smart decisions and not give anyone a reason to talk bad about us or put our names in the paper. It goes back to us making the right decisions."

And seniors rising to fill a leadership void created in the absence of strong leaders like Jerod Mayo, Eric Young, Erik Ainge, and others from last year's team who are no longer on campus.

"Us stepping up as leaders and to lead by example instead of a bunch of lip service like we've done for the past month and half," rising senior offensive lineman Ramon Foster said. "We've taken a step toward understanding what needs to be done."

That includes being more vocal in their leadership, taking a more proactive approach to helping teammates avoid trouble and counseling younger players.

"We've got some things we're going to try," Briscoe said. "I'm not going to be specific what we're trying, but we're going to try it and see how the team responds. From the way the meeting went, everybody responded pretty well."

Two players involved in off-field incidents are rising seniors, All-SEC offensive lineman Anthony Parker and Colquitt.

Briscoe said he isn't troubled by an occasional misstep by an upperclassman as much as he is by an older player who keeps making the same mistakes.

"Is it a case where you're a senior guy and you're making the same mistakes that a freshman is making and you've made the same mistakes repeatedly?" Briscoe said. "That's where you have to start thinking about somebody's character when it's something that's constantly been going on. That's when I start getting worried. Other than that, everybody makes a mistake.

"We just have to go from here. We're expecting not to have anything else happen, but if something does come up, we're going to take care of that."

Foster is equally optimistic.

"I think we set a tone for those guys not to go down that road again," Foster said. "I think it's going to be very effective."

© 2008, Knoxville News Sentinel Co.

       79 Comments

Posted by nicksjuzunk on February 19, 2008 at 12:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Finally, a good sign. People will say this is a lack of leadership on Fulmer's part but your seniors have to take leadership... and they need to kick their fellow senior's accents!!

Posted by Hunter on February 19, 2008 at 1:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is NOT the only players' responsibility to help each other - it is up to the coaches to keep better tabs on these players. I ABSOLUTELY NEVER agree with John Adams, but he has it right this time - it is time for Hamilton to make a deal with Fulmer to ride off into the sunset after this season.

By the way, Fulmer lovers and haters alike, do you remember the last time UT fans were split on a coach like this? I do Mike Hamilton went out and hired Coach Bruce Pearl. Do it again, Mike.....

Posted by bamacheats on February 19, 2008 at 2:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Who is Josh Briscoe?

Posted by 71vol on February 19, 2008 at 6:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bamacheats-

I guess since Briscoe doesn't have the stats of a Meachem, Price, or Kent, he can't be a leader?

Posted by surlyguy on February 19, 2008 at 6:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

blah, blah, blah.

Posted by VOLinDAWGland on February 19, 2008 at 6:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And this hopefully is the difference between 2005 and 2008. I don't remember any rising seniors to be stepping into the void in 2005 to demand accountability. This type of experience can ultimately be a great learning experience for this team...or it can be a repeat of the crash and burn of 2005. My gut tells me this year will be different.

Let's give the new coaching staff get established before making any final judgement. Relationships need to be forged which take some time, the new coaches need to learn who their character guys are and work with them. If next year proves to be a repeat of this year, then I agree, big changes probably need to be made.

Posted by pdhuff on February 19, 2008 at 6:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And on it goes.

Posted by eb502us on February 19, 2008 at 7:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Was Colquitt not one of our senior leaders? So much for that philosophy.

Posted by dfreeman on February 19, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

alright guys you said you are going to do something about it, put your money where your mouth is! We'll know it worked if there's nothing to read about for the days leading up to the O&W game and beyond!! So far some of you have been an embarassment!

Posted by 55Vol on February 19, 2008 at 8:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Briscoe and Foster... a page from teh Marine Corps Drill Instructors manual from the early 50's. See who the natural leaders on the team will be, rouse them out of their beds at 2 in the morning, take them out back and beat the living s--- out them. Tell them if anyone else on the team gets out of hand, they get the same treatment. Amzing how many Marine platoons straightened up after that.
Man up Tenn. players. Be real men and leave the foolishness of drugs, alcohol and off-field stuff for the regular student population to get in trouble for.

Posted by stroker on February 19, 2008 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hunter,When about 10% of the fans are naysayers does not qualify as a fan split.

bamacheats Josh Brisco is a senior receiver and obvlious a leader.

eb502us being a senior does not make a leader,he is apparantly a spoiled brat, Brisco called him out. Did you read the article?

Posted by orangebloodgmc on February 19, 2008 at 8:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Amen, Stroker. Good luck Briscoe and the seniors who are actually acting as LEADERS. Britton Colquitt, you got same name as me, so you gotta man up and represent!

Posted by jdcdjc on February 19, 2008 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's face it, Fulmer cannot follow these guys around. In the first place ther are too many of them. Responsibility begins and ends with the young men themselves. If they know they are watching each other, this is a big help. We were all once there ourselves and we know there
are a certain percentage of them that are going to be tempted to take the wrong path, someone needs to be there to remind them of the consequences of thier actions.

Posted by agentorange on February 19, 2008 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

tangent warning: it's sad that these kids have to worry about "the media." I put that in quotes b/c "media" like the kns reporters have resorted to reporting anything and everything that happens. sports journalism is damn near dead and it has turned into gossip columns, lame predictions and rumors. the information age, with 24 hour sports coverage and whole tv channels devoted to sports, has created too much time and space to fill with anything meaningful or interesting. same with the regular news. in a market economy, i suppose someone will eventually (re)fill the niche that used to occupied with hard news and good sports coverage. the kind that you could read while you smoked a cigar and drank some whiskey. until then, i guess we'll have to break out the cream puffs and cupcakes while we read about how shocking it is that a college student playiing football drinks alot or about how a player's car looks 'gangsta.'

Posted by 71vol on February 19, 2008 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

girlyguy-

Real intelligent post, think long on that one?

Posted by TNPilgrim on February 19, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

News Flash: These prima donna UT football players should be held to a higher standard than the average college student. It's one thing for someone that age to go to a party on weekends and smoke a little pot or drink too much - that's part of college life for almost every undergraduate. However, it's another thing when Fulmer's players keep getting ARRESTED doing it. That shows these guys have no respect for this guy, and they know the consequences will be a slap on the wrist at the worst. Just like John Adams is saying, if they are starters they don't have to worry about anything but a little community service. For those of you posting from another planet, the fan unrest is a hell of a lot more than 10% and this will begin to show up with decreased donations from major donors. The problems have already caused negative results is recruiting - we just had the worst class in Fulmer's tenure. Adams is right - Hamilton should plan a nice retirement party for Phil and start the process of getting this program back where it should be.

Posted by sjt18 on February 19, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bamacheats... Are you serious?

Briscoe was 3rd on the team in receiving last year and in several games was the best WR playing.

Posted by sjt18 on February 19, 2008 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry TNPilgrim. That makes absolutely no sense.

A player who does something has respect for the coach but a player who does it and gets caught doesn't?

Ever thought that it has very little to do with respect for CPF personally and more to do with a general disregard for authority in general? That seems to be the clear case with Faison whose been on campus about a month now and Colquitt.

If Davis and Wardlow didn't have respect.... they probably do now.

Posted by RockyTop1 on February 19, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry for those of you that can't or won't read the article. Sorry more pictures were not provided for YOUR entertainment! Grow up as fans and at least be POSITIVE toward those who HAVE spoken out for a change! It's about time!

To the naysayers, go back to sleep and get over IT!! Whatever your IT is today for YOU!

Give this some time and see if the seniors back up what they said. As someone said, "...the proof is in the pudding...."

BTW, eb502us you really SHOULD slow down and READ the article! I think Colquitt WAS called out as not being a proper leader!!

So here it is again a little sloooower......"Is it a case where you're a senior guy (not necessarily a senior i.e. ..junior/senior) and you're making the same mistakes (busted for intoxication i.e. ...drunk) that a freshman is making and you've made the same mistakes repeatedly?" Briscoe said.

GO VOLS 'CHANGE' COURSE in 08!!

Posted by TNPilgrim on February 19, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"A player who does something has respect for the coach but a player who does it and gets caught doesn't?"

Sorry sjt18, but that's not what I said - not even close. However, I'll agree that these scofflaws appear to have no respect for ANY authority and have probably been raised that way along with being pampered in high school as being King Jock.

Part of the responsibilities in being a multi-millionaire college football coach is teaching respect to these spoiled brats, and getting them to learn the team concept and the standards of conduct that have to be adopted when being a part of a major college program.
Fulmer has failed at this aspect, and now our program looks like that of Barry Switzer's Oklahoma teams (at least they were in the top 10). He should suffer the same fate of Barry Switzer.

Posted by losvolsganan on February 19, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice! Some positive developments here. I wonder why it's not featured as prominently on the home page as Adams hit piece.

Move along. Nothing to see here...

Posted by bamacheats on February 19, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So is Josh Briscoe on our team?

Posted by jcvet on February 19, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The meeting probably took place at a keg party.

Posted by rkastens on February 19, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Is it a case where you're a senior guy and you're making the same mistakes that a freshman is making and you've made the same mistakes repeatedly?" Briscoe said. "That's where you have to start thinking about somebody's character when it's something that's constantly been going on. That's when I start getting worried. Other than that, everybody makes a mistake." Josh Briscoe. This is exactly what the Colquitt situation is.

Posted by marc_ash on February 19, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18,

Dont' think it has anything to do with respect for CPF as a person. I think these behaviors occur for self gain. As people, we are self driven. We live in a capitalist society where we are driven to be individually successful. We are driven to care for our own families above other's.

I don't think this has anything to do with the players personal feelings about Fulmer. It could have to do with how they view him and how their actions will be received IMO.

These men are going to do what they want based on how it will affect them....plain and simple.

Posted by jhbaker14 on February 19, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, Briscoe just blistered Colquitt...Good, Britton has screwed up enough.

Posted by tigervol9802 on February 19, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can someone just tell me why it has to come to the seniors stepping up to take charge? Hey, if these guys are going to step up to be leaders of the players, then I am very glad and thankful for that. It is good, don't get me wrong.

But if it's coming to this and there isn't anything being done by those who have an organizational responsibility over them, then that really worries me. I've been in situations listening to and trying to influence my peers. But, I knew both times that if the head of the organization didn't show he wanted it done and was willing to do what it took to make it be done....it didn't matter. I'm scared the same is going to hold true here.

Posted by va_vol16 on February 19, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i am tired of reading this junk we have 1 vs 2 on saturday night lets talk about that it will be a long time before our football team plays a game that big so lets focus on that and not the joke that has become Phillip Fulmer's football team

Posted by leedsvol2007 on February 19, 2008 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't know about anyone else that posts but I attended UT in the late 60's and early 70's. The behavior we are seeing is not new just more publicized.

Tennessee is an excellent academic institution but has also always been known as an exciting campus for young people. Alcohol has always been a part of the scene. These young adults playing football are no different than other students in the regards of wanting to have fun and blow off some steam.

The problem for athletes is that they are always subject to public scrutiny.

Someone needs to tell them if they choose to imbibe they can't drive and to stow their football attitude for the football field. Don't fight except to defend yourself in a life or death situation, walk away.

And be courteous and avoid policemen. Most police want to do a good job and not come down on someone unless it is deserved. Some however, are jealous and looking for an excuse to bust someone with privlege.

And finally, Fulmer ought to go over the case of Dwayne Goodrich who at last look was in jail in Texas. He was drinking and driving while with the Cowboys, hit and killed some people apparently changing a tire and left the scene of the accident. His life went down the drain along with the accident victims.

Food for thought!

Posted by losvolsganan on February 19, 2008 at 12:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tigervol:

You seem to be missing the fact that things ARE being done by the organizational heads: suspensions, dismissals, scholarship revocations, physical discipline, etc.

It is positive to see that the coaches are not alone in addressing the problem, but that they are receiving active support from the peers.

I find it interesting that STILL we have very little reporting on the new coaches, what they are doing to address the teams needs, how they feel about the problems they are seeing, who they are impressed with since arriving, etc. I guess KNS has devolved into throwing dirty laundry to the extent that they have no time to do any interviewing, etc.

Posted by tigervol9802 on February 19, 2008 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And none of it is apparently resonating with a vast majority of the players.

Colquitt should have been kicked off the team. period. End of discussion. A loss of scholarship for maximum one year of college is not really going to affect Britton Colquitt.

This isn't a one time thing - this is the culture of the team. The culture of any organization is set at the top and works it's way down. An occasional mistake is ok, but when it is a problem year after year then it's obvious the culture is that it is not frowned upon highly enough.

To be quite honest, you can put me into the spectrum of fans, donors, and alumni who are embarassed and sick and tired of this. I'll tell CPF, Hamilton, or anyone else invovled that to their face.

Posted by tigervol9802 on February 19, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To add a little bit more to it -

I realize this is a professional organization, but have you ever heard of any trouble of anyone on the Indiapolis Colts? Why, because ALL of the players respect Coach Dungy and while they realize that the organization won't tolerate it, they respect him as a person so much they don't want to hurt him. There are a couple of great Reggie Wayne quotes and interviews speaking of how when he was a first and second year player oh when he could have had an incident he backed down because he didn't want to embarass Coach Dungy.

It starts at the top.

Posted by losvolsganan on February 19, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe it's my perception of the punishment handed out to Britton but I feel like his career has been handed an almost deadly blow, because by the time his 5 game suspension is over, odds are pretty good that we will have found someone else to handle the punting duties and the only way Britton will win back the starting position is on the practice field. It is his senior year and without significant playing time, he will not be making tons of money in the NFL. At the same time, he is left just enough pieces that if he wants to straighten up and work hard to fix himself, he may be able to put a future together again.

I made stupid choices at that age and have had to pay a heavy price for many of my blown opportunities. But at the same time, I am still grateful for those who were willing to be hard on me when I deserved it but still stay around to help me when I finally got the point.

I am not an advocate of coddling, but I'm not a fan of the other extreme either.

Posted by 71vol on February 19, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bamacheats-

No, not your team, but he does play for the Vols. Now you know.

Posted by sjt18 on February 19, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah bamacheats... he was the other guy catching over 50 passes last season.

Posted by losvolsganan on February 19, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tigervol: perhaps using Dungy as an example doesn't serve your purpose. I was in Tampa and was a fan of his when the majority of Bucs fans wanted him run out of town. "He's alright but he will never win the big one" was their argument. They finally accomplished it, to the Colts gain. I guess I see some similarities to that situation when people talk about running Fulmer out of town.

Posted by JohnAdamsIsTrash on February 19, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

!!! Fire John Adams !!!

Posted by thesavageorange on February 19, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

losvolsganan, I represent you're last statement.That's my problem w/ this particular site.There are 2 extremes.The ones that want to save CPF at all cost, and those who want him gone at all cost.There are a-lot fewer ,middle of the roaders, whom look at things case by case.Briscoe stated above,"It falls on our players taking responsibility and being smart about what they do," I did the same things all 8 of these"MEN" did in my early 20's.I also thank God that people in my life gave me chance after chance.If not I wouldn't be leading the succesfull,moral,family life that I have obtained today.

Posted by thesavageorange on February 19, 2008 at 3:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

On you're 1:11 post.

Posted by losvolsganan on February 19, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Amen, savage! Same here...

And graduated punishment combined with praise and positive reinforcement for improving worked well for my son also.

Posted by pms151 on February 19, 2008 at 3:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Somebody needs to step up big time and lay down the law. Not Mikey or CHP, a player. No need to mince words either. This "darn" and "dadgum" crap is not gonna cut it. These guys need to be talked to in real world language. And CPF also needs to take the lead and quit trying to sound like a saint. Hell nobody gets his point across when he is angry using words like I just quoted. Sh*t, time to pull out the stops godda***t!

Posted by losvolsganan on February 19, 2008 at 3:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No offense, pms151, but if you think nobody can get his point accross without using foul language, then you have never been around me in person. It CAN be done (and my son is a green beret!)

Posted by givehim6 on February 19, 2008 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think this is all based on how the young kids think "the moment of fame thinking". I have 5 kids ranging from 26 to 21 i'v seen it so many times, doing someting dum out of emotions so thay can fit in with there young friends. But some one a bit older comes in and says "ok this is how to grow up". Senior leadership will be a good thing.

Posted by thesavageorange on February 19, 2008 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

losvolsganan ,It also gets tiresome when KNS(writes a story about something good)like a player saves a child from a burning building, it turns into a debate about CPF's job status. pms151 ,Yes this team desperately needs leaders.I don't care what yr player either.Some guys that will get in you're face and say "you are not going to ruin this for the rest of us doing the right thing".

Posted by thesavageorange on February 19, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

losvolsganan ,Agreed.The people that saved my life(mom,dad,pastor,family friends etc..)never cursed me.They simply led by example,showing me there is a good way of living w/o missing out on the fun. givehim6 ,Agree there too.I think some of our young guys like E Berry,Vinson etc... will help in the near future as well.

Posted by tshipley7963 on February 19, 2008 at 4:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

People we aren't in this boat by ourselfs check South carolina, LSU and Now Bama. Hopefully the seniors can get their attention.

Posted by govols8080 on February 19, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's about time that the seniors on the team to try to take hold of this situation. I think coaches should keep in touch with their players as much as possible, but there comes a time when the players themselves have to be responsible for one another. I just hope this is the last time we hear of this again.

Posted by Colliervol on February 19, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Finally, somebody is stepping up. Good for them. I was beginning to wonder if there were any leaders on this team. Because, ultimately, they are the ones who will probably get it done.

I agree with Foster's assessment of "lip service" because that's about all that's been done so far by both the players and coaches. But it's easy to talk it fellas, now let's see you walk it.

Posted by FlaVol2 on February 19, 2008 at 5:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Go take the lead junior/senior Vols. Most of us on this message board feel you guys are for the most part upstanding and good people. Now some of you need to remove all doubt and set good examples for the younger guys to follow and make sure they do. Never forget that you and your peers are a team - when one fails so does the team.

Posted by budd on February 19, 2008 at 5:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

talk is cheap. lets see the walk

Posted by tenndave on February 19, 2008 at 5:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What bothers me the most is that almost every blogger is trying to blame Fulmer, coaches, other players, Knoxville police etc. In all aspects of our lives we want someone else to be at fault when we screw up. It is no one's fault but the offenders.

Now as a parent, if my child was on the team, I would not want Fulmer directing his punishment based on what others have done. Each person is an individual. I was a school principal for almost 10 years. The most unfair thing in the world is some policy that takes the indvidual out of the equation. Granted it put you as the head person in a no win situation. Some think you are devoid of discipline, others think you overreacted. I don't envy Fulmer's position. Now all your Fla fans and Ala fans go kiss off. He wil handle it and we will move on. By the way, take Adams with you.

Posted by IPOrange on February 19, 2008 at 6:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

5 minutes behind the barn. That's what I've been saying all along. 5 minutes behind the barn, with a lookout at each corner.

I like it. I like it a lot.

Posted by grvol on February 19, 2008 at 6:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You're right leedsvol. Gotta party smart for a change. DO NOT DRIVE PERIOD! Respect the Police when they come around! When they say move on...move on and say yes sir officer thank you. It worked for me up there.

Posted by govols57 on February 19, 2008 at 6:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bring Al Wilson back, pending his career in the NFL. I bet nobody makes a mistake with him around. A vocal leader like Al as been missing since he left.

Posted by pearlman on February 19, 2008 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank God someone on this team has some leadership. We have not had leadership since Big Al Wilson.

Posted by GreerVol22 on February 19, 2008 at 9:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

we definately need more code reds....

Posted by vol4good on February 19, 2008 at 9:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This could work, at least someone is saying, hey what the hell is going on?

Posted by movol77 on February 19, 2008 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hunter, your rationale calls for a short memory.

And now that you have the simple solution to controlling players and their actions, get everyone on this blog to do and say everything as you simply wish.

Posted by mmeletiou on February 19, 2008 at 11:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

givehim6 3:38 post, dang you have 5 kids ages 21-26? man, you were busy... assuming these were all with the same woman, well, i feel kinda sorry for her. congrats though i guess..

Posted by gary235 on February 19, 2008 at 11:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's ALL turn our attention to beating Auburn then take it and lay it on Memphis... let the football team handle their problems

Posted by bcmelton on February 20, 2008 at 12:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am in no shape, way, or form trying to absolve the coaching staff of responsibility in this rash of incidents, but if you look around the NCAA, it's not just UT that's making the headlines. Texas, South Carolina, and LSU are currently well represented, and the Gators had the well publicized incident with the impounded car not so long ago. If you want to read about a program that was out of control, read this column:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html...

Posted by snafu14u on February 20, 2008 at 2:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The simple point is that the players HAVE to step up because the coaches will not.That is the shame behind this whole ordeal.This reflects on the "culture" that has been created by the coaching staff.The Big Orange Buck stops at the Top.bonzaivol

Posted by movol77 on February 20, 2008 at 7:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

snafu14u, you must have played with tops as a child too much. This may better explain why now you spin blame/shame on the coaches at every opportunity.

Posted by movol77 on February 20, 2008 at 8:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

snafu14u, can you show one positive quote you've made on any article regarding CPF this last season? If not, that may indicate an interloper not a Vol.

Posted by sjt18 on February 20, 2008 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bcmelton, Don't you know anything?

It is only a problem if: a) Fulmer is the coach and b) the culpret is caught and punished publicly consistent with school policy.

If you cover it up... it isn't a problem.

snafu14u, it is not creating a "culture" that promotes this type of behavior when you boot a starting CB (Fellows), your best RB (Coker), a potential starting LB (Davis), and your #3 safety (Wardlow) all in less than a year.

I agree that Colquitt should be gone but his punishment is not insignificant as as best I can tell he hadn't been caught breaking the rules in almost 4 years.

Posted by DennisVols on February 20, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"A little less talk and a lot more action"

Posted by brdteton on February 20, 2008 at 12:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

College Park, Ga., native robbed two fellow university students of $26 in cash while threatening them with a semi-automatic handgun late Saturday night in the parking lot of Bryant Hall, the former athletic dorm where many Crimson Tide football players live.

The 6-foot-3, 271-pound Elder apparently did little to conceal his identity during or after the robbery, according to the report. He was wearing a houndstooth 'A' insignia baseball cap, a style popular with Alabama players. And according to surveillance video detailed in the report and used to identify Elder, he fled back into Bryant Hall.

Posted by movol77 on February 20, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bcmelton posted, "This may be a better link:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html...

Wow. Spellbinding story.

Posted by pdhuff on February 20, 2008 at 3:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18 9:49 a.m. "best running back". Coker couldn't go East and West. A little levity, couldn't resist! Jail them all, I say, threaten them with a assegal, as W.C. would say.

brdteton 12:30, they probably put him out of the advanced physics doctoral program for this minor infraction. At least he wasn't from Alabama, that honor went to Ga. And he knew where he lived.

Posted by DSaVol on February 20, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Briscoe talks better than he catches anyway. This is such a bunch of lip service crap! Why did it take EIGHT incidents for this so-called "leadership" to surface?? Perhaps because they've been led by someone who knows even less about leadership?????

Posted by sjt18 on February 20, 2008 at 4:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DSaVol, Do you know how many balls Briscoe caught this past season?

Posted by philfan on February 20, 2008 at 5:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a good sign. Sometimes, the fellow players can come up with a plan to reduce this kind of silliness, that the coaches have overlooked. There is a morale issue here too. If I were a player with a family of modest income, I would resent a little rich kid, Colquitt, being suspended for five games (the scholarship issue does not matter, since the family is very wealthy), when other players are booted off for less serious offenses. How about letting the coaches and the team captain set the punishment for a player who has broken the rules? Has this ever been tried?

Posted by posivol on February 20, 2008 at 7:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

this rag is nothing more than a piece of crap---hope you knoxville fellows can get a grip on this and boycot or just run out of buisness,,,this paper has an agenda to destroy our vols.

Posted by snafu14u on February 21, 2008 at 1:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

movol77: I don't post very much, I just read your guys rantings and ravings. I have always tried to be pragmatic. What it is ,is what it is. I post very little negative, and I don't keep my posts to defend them. I liked the way Tom Siler used to write, he looked at BOTH sides and told the truth whether we wanted to hear it or not.Woe be unto the man who speaks ill in any form or fashion of the Big Orange. That is the way you learn.You explain to me how these arrests are positive, how they benefit the university, UTAD or the student/athletes. UTK class of 1977.bonzaivol

Posted by MillisaAnn on February 22, 2008 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's time for the Seniors to step up and be leaders on this team, I too agree with John Adams it's time for Fulmer to go.

Posted by rabidvolfan on February 24, 2008 at 8:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THE KNS IS THE BEST PAPER IN AMERICA SIMPLY BECAUSE JOHN ADAMS IS THE BEST WRITER IN AMERICA. I ASK THAT EVERYONE BE ON STAND BY TO DONATE $50 TO KEEP JOHN ADAMS WHEN SOMEONE LIKE THE USA TODAY OR A MAJOR MAGAZINE HIRES THIS MAN OUT FROM UNDER US. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN OFFER JOHN A COMPETITIVE SALARY! THIS WAS A VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE!

Posted by dhens1 on March 5, 2008 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Looks like Penn State has issues also, we are not alone in this
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/st...

Their 6th suspended this winter.

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