Posted by EDis4UT on February 28, 2008 at 12:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TAG LINE: 'We've got to get better point-guard play' coach says

Jordan shooting has definitely hit the skids. He seems to handle the ball very well, but that's about it. Ramar, I don't know what his problem is. I hope CP and staff can figger that one out.. and soon.

Posted by utmdm on February 28, 2008 at 12:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For asking what the foul was for? What tone was he using?

Posted by gate12 on February 28, 2008 at 2:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Asking what the foul was for... Right. There's more to that story, I guarantee you.

Posted by oldorange on February 28, 2008 at 5:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Vols have had a great season. I refuse to be one of the fans who are never satisifed. They have done an outstanding job for the first task of the year. March is almost here and we go dancin. We saw a bunch of tired young men on Tuesday evening. Go VOLS!!!!!!!!!

Posted by schymtz on February 28, 2008 at 6:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I was sad but not suprised by the tight loss at Vandy, but there was a team in white on the court that had a lot to do with that loss, not just a sub-par performance from the orange team. Vandy played with a sharper edge. I thought the schedule, not the opponent, was the major factor. Tired is an explaination, not an excuse. If we felt sad about this loss, I know the guys felt it more. Sure makes the Kentucky game more important. "The Vols haven't swept a season series from Kentucky since 1999." We ain't gonna sweep 'em this year, either. The challenge is not to allow them to sweep us. Go Vols!

Posted by slambob2 on February 28, 2008 at 7:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It seems to me that our guys have used pretty good self-control. We didn't get a technical when the Vandy guy jumped on our guy's head. If Jujuan used an improper tone, then he should have gotten the "T", but overall they've been pretty restrained.

The refs in the Memphis game were transparent. In the Vandy game, they were the focal point of almost every trip down the court. I don't know that they didn't do a great job in Nashville, but it seemed like the players determined the game in Memphis and the refs were a big factor in Nashville.

I'd love someone who knows more about this stuff than I do to comment on how the two games were different. But Saturday night seemed like a players game and Tuesday was choppy and sloppy.

slambob

Posted by Plasticman on February 28, 2008 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

slambob2, basically you had 2 different officiating crews call 2 types of games. At Memphis, I thought the officials did a great job letting the players play determine the outcome of the game. They allowed it to get rough at times and did not call ticky-tac fouls. In Nashville, I thought the officials tried to be the focal point of the game (3 technical fouls, 53 total fouls, and 69 FT's) and completely disrupted the rythym of the game for either team. ALl I know is that I prefer watching a game like the Memphis game where the players determine the outcome more than the officials. GO VOLS!!

Posted by Vols1998 on February 28, 2008 at 7:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Get ready for Kentucky and stop talking about Vandy.......it's over. Finish the season and give Ramar more minutes. Sorry, but I do not like the offense when Jordan H. is in, he can not penetrate or pass.

Go Vols!

Posted by vols76 on February 28, 2008 at 7:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can't hit free throws in the clutch....can win championships......Period.......

Posted by vols76 on February 28, 2008 at 7:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What was the foul for?

Posted by vols76 on February 28, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Saw a sign in the stands about "redneck orange"....don't know exactly what it said....but I will say this: "I would rather be an Orange Redneck than a Comode Door" and day of the week......go VOLS!

Posted by mparker on February 28, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

plasticman;
IMNHO, the three refs in Nashville do not need to be working upper-tier SEC basketball games.

And, no, for you board trolls, this isn't whining that the refs cost us the game. It was supposed to be a marguee SEC matchup, a national game, and instead it turned into a FT shooting contest at the local Y.

My rule is to let 'em play and call the shot-altering fouls, and the 'know-better' fouls such as illegal picks.

We haven't played well in several games lately: Memphis, LSU, UGA, Vandy.... it is a long season, with long games, and we aren't physically dominant. We've all but one of those games with our hustle and rebounding, and some clutch plays.

All I can say is the boys better be prepared to fight UK for every single ball, and no easy looks.

Posted by eb502us on February 28, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The quick turn around from Memphis and the refs certainly didn't help us in this game, but the one big problem I see (which will really become evident next yr.) is that defenses pack it in when JP and Ramar are on the court. Neither of these guys know what a jump shot is (or have one for that matter), which is hard to believe in this day and age. Ramar can break anybody down off the dribble and can go either left or right, which is why he's so dangerous in the open court. But even a mid-range jumper is missing from his game. JP IMO, is the most overrated player in the SEC. (Sorry, but it's the truth) HE HAS NO GAME. Yes, he played well at Memphis (and I love the guy for it), but has he made a shot outside of 4 ft. all year? He has no outside shot, no mid-range jumper, can only go to his left, is a poor free throw shooter (though better lately)and is a below average decision maker. More often than not, he's out of control going to the hole and suffice it to say, the only reason his game (or lack therof) is not at the forefront and mentioned more often is because of all the talent around him. As for Vandy, when Jujuan and Chris aren't hitting from the outside like the other night, teams are backing up and daring Ramar and JP to shoot, similar to what teams did to Bradshaw last year. Only difference was, Bradshaw brought more intangibles to the game and at least could occasionally hit a jump short or 3 pointer. Ramar and especially JP simply cannot. This is the biggest weakness we have, which compromises the ability of our frontline guys to get the ball because defenses are packed in more tightly. Botttom line is that for us to go anywhere this year or next, both Ramar and JP need to add a jump shot to their game. It hasn't hurt us so far this year (only 3 losses and Chris and Jujuan have rarely been in foul trouble) but I guarantee you it eventually will. And for those wondering, it's the main reason Howell gets so much playing time because at least he's a threat (though he clearly hasn't made squat lately)

Posted by Alphafemale on February 28, 2008 at 7:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What's wrong with Ramar? I know at times he's been brilliant... other times I forget that he's on the team.

Posted by hiresanders on February 28, 2008 at 8:10 a.m.

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Posted by utvolz on February 28, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hire, why don't you take a hike outta here!

Posted by hopalong on February 28, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

vols76:

I think the sign said "I bleed Blaack and Gold not Redneck Orange." I took it as a Vandy students's perception of themselves as compared to all of us in East Tennessee.

Just another reason for me to not look with favor upon Vandy.

Posted by sannie82 on February 28, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well we got beat by three points... So asking what the foul was for and cp tech cost us the game. You can not give up free points like that.

Posted by sannie82 on February 28, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well we got beat by three points... So asking what the foul was for and cp tech cost us the game. You can not give up free points like that.

Posted by TurboFan on February 28, 2008 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jujuan had his hands on his knees and head down when the ref T'd him up. From three hundred miles away it didn't look like there was a tone included.

Way to defense UT: get inside Chris' and Jujuan's shirt, bodyup or foul JP and Ramar on drives, let Duke and Wayne shoot inside 2 feet, ignore Jordan and Childress completely. Tyler is the only one that is hard to answer.

Posted by johnlg00 on February 28, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

eb502us, I agree with you completely. Opponents now know all they need to know to beat us. The key points: 1) Limit touches by Chris and JaJuan. 2) Set up strong in the lane against Ramar and JP. 3) Swarm Tyler and Wayne in the lane. 4) Let Jordan shoot. 5) Foul anyone whenever necessary except Chris. 6) Be smart with the pass and strong with the dribble when UT presses. 7) Crash the offensive boards. Opponents with the talent, depth, and discipline to do those things can take us unless they just can't shoot at all when they play us. I love our team. I love their hustle and grit. I love CBP's intensity and enthusiasm. But now it is time to see if these guys have learned anything over the course of the season and have the desire and ability to improve on their weak areas. All our highest season goals are still out there for the taking, but the guys will, ahem, have to take it to the next level in execution if we are to reach them. GO VOLS!!! DROWN THE KITTENS!!!

Posted by marc_ash on February 28, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OK guys...I was next to JuJuan when he got that technical. I didn't hear exactly what he said, but I know for sure he wasn't angry. At that particular time, tensions were high. Pearl was off his rocker upset about a couple of previous calls. JuJuan may have said something to the ref. In fact I know he did (just not sure exactly what it was).

BUT...I wouldn't discount much...the refs made it clear early on they weren't going to put up with much.

There was a time in the first half when one of the Vandy players shoved a Vol with their chest and brought his arms up grazing his face (don't remember who the Vol was sorry). It was obvious a "T" should have been called on the Vandy player. The ref saw it. He was standing right there...but he walked over with the Vandy player and they talked. The player patted the ref on the shoulder and walked off.

Seemed like that was the mind set all night.

Posted by bigbluevol on February 28, 2008 at 9:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

eb, JP has made a couple of three pointers this year and Ramar made one against Auburn. They do need to shoot more from the outside, but I think that their game is more about getting to the rim and trying to draw contact. They've just got to hit their free throws and make their layups.

Posted by johnlg00 on February 28, 2008 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

WD40plusVol, I guess great minds like you, me, and eb502us think alike(;-D)! I wonder if any of this has occurred to CBP(;-P)! I have said all year that we just have no margin for error on this team EXCEPT for the great hustle, especially on defense, with which they usually play. As ragged as we looked much of the night at Vandy, if Foster doesn't have a career night, and on several of his threes we had defenders right up on him, we still could have won! Just like CBP says, guys: Passion, Poise, and Purpose! Keep scratching, keep digging--and make some shots!

Posted by marc_ash on February 28, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My previous post said....if I didn't hear exactly what JuJuan said. WD40plusVol, you said "from 300 miles away it didn't seem like a tone was included". Well, from 3ft there WASN'T a tone from JuJuan!

My guess is he called the ref a name...that was going on all night and was funny at times.

Posted by Ironcity on February 28, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For all of you who complained about the refs, Vandy was intent on fouling everytime down the court. Thy wanted this game to have no rythem. Had the Refs "let them play" someone would have gotten hurt. Guys like Neltner and Metcalf can't cover anyone. Where UT messed up was they lost their composure earlythey should have ignored Vandy's tactics and allowed Vandy to get themselves into foul trouble. Instead we responded with rough play of our own and settling for long range contested threes. This game was similar to the UK game in January. To me this is a good game in that coach Pearl can easily put on the tape and really teach these guys. As for the point guards. Smith has lost his mid range jumper and Howell has just been plain awful. He is way to conservitive with his passes and his shoot has been horrible and when he is on the floor, the other team almost always goes on a run. I wish Tabb could handle the ball a little better because we could sure use him at the point.

Posted by yemmusdarb on February 28, 2008 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

marc_ash: so you were lined up on a hash-mark in the foul lane? hmm

Posted by mparker on February 28, 2008 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

johnlg,
I think you are maybe too deep into this. Wayne didn't play, and Tyler was sick.

Otherwise, we dominate Vandy inside and create more openings for Ramar and JP.

Tyler got two charges which normally aren't called except by these grade-school refs. He also tried to pass-off on plays where he'd normally shoot.

Wayne is a good offensive player, better than Obilvy.

Like I posted on another board, the vandy game was a 'perfect storm' or bad crap:
_a trap game
_Stallings planned to foul and be physical
_tired legs
_over-matched referees
_the flu!!!
_Memorial gym garbage
_a good vandy team

Posted by marc_ash on February 28, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

yemmusdarb,

He didn't get the call when he was on the foul line, he was in front of the bench beside the foul line. I was directly underneath the basket. I'm not claiming to be an expert, I'm just relaying what I observed. Take it for what its worth.

Posted by brownsvillevol on February 28, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

plus i think the refs gave us no respect because we were #1 and kentucky wasn't or they just wanted to keep the mystique of vandy knocking off #1's at home.

Posted by 1974Vol on February 28, 2008 at 9:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Vols got to the rim all night and missed point blank shots and layups. The "Bigs" were 7 for 23. If the Vols had shot 50% from 3’ in, they win by double figures. When you have an off night like that against a quality opponent like Vandy on their floor you will lose. The Refs were scared to death the game would get out of control with a bench clearing brawl, (almost did on the jump ball “tackle” play) so they started calling fouls on all contact on the outside. The rule book says for a foul to occur you need “contact and advantage gained”. Bumping, touching, “rubbing” to use a NASCAR term normally won’t get a whistle. It got lots of whistles Tuesday night. I don’t fault the refs, they called it both ways, but Vols game was hurt more than Vandy’s because of how physical Vols play. Despite all that went against them – schedule, fatigue, refs, road game, Fosters having a career night, the Vols dang near won on sheer will and fight. They are fun to watch and I predict they will beat KY like a rented mule Sunday. Vol’s 92- Ky 67.

Posted by asleep on February 28, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is unbelievable that some fans are upset about the season just because we lost to Vandy on the road. They are 23-4 and much tougher than that at home. Let's assume we beat KY and SC at home and lose at Florida, what I think is a worst-case scenario. We would win the SEC outright with an 13-3 record, would have beaten Memphis and Xavier on the road, and have a 27-4 record and a likely Top 5 ranking. Get to the SEC tourney final, and you're 29-5 with a number 1 seed, thanks to a strong RPI and SOS. Who among us, starting the season, wouldn't have taken less than that and been happy? Let's make sure we keep our expectations realistic while we set our goals at the top. Go Vols!!!

Posted by VolJunkie on February 28, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have been reading and contributing to the posts on this board for about 4 weeks now (didn't know it existed!) and really enjoy it. Most of the posts are insightful and interesting opinions from Volunteer fans. Some are trash talk with fans from other teams, okay with me as long as it does not lead to personal attacks (the dehumanizing experience of email, text messaging, etc.). The collective experience of the various contributors adds to the richness of the posts, I am always impressed at the depth of some of the comments. Okay, enough of that.

Another well written article from Mike Strange. CBP is right on point (no pun intended), he needs to get solid play from this position. IMHO this article is a public challenge to get Ramar and/or Jordan to step-up. Definitely time to move past last Tuesday, a couple of big games coming up, win those and we can hang what I hope is the first of several banners from this season.

Go #1 VOLS!!

Posted by volinSmyrna on February 28, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

marc_ash,

The Technical on J. Smith happened when Vandy was on the free throw line at the other end of the floor from the UT bench. The other poster was right. Smith had his hands on his knees as he was being T'ed up. They even replayed it on tv. Go back and watch the tape. You might have been "right there" for Coach Pearl's T, but there is no way you could have been "right there" for the other one.

The officiating was choppy at best. The two main things I saw were, Metcalfe seemed to be looking for somebody else to "body up" all night, and how in the world is no foul called when Neltner dives on our guy? Other than that, we played pretty sloppy basketball. We were tired so we kept grabbing jersey's.

It's over now, so BEAT KENTUCKY. I'm just glad we don't play until Sunday. Maybe they will get their legs back.

Posted by egwillo on February 28, 2008 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tuesday's game was hard to watch. Our guys looked tired from the beginning. Glad this happened now vs. NCAA tourney time. We expect this experience to fire up the Big Orange to kick UK's @*! on Sunday! We love you guys no matter what!!!

Posted by DeeBee on February 28, 2008 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I applaud Bruce Pearl for everything he has done for this program. For us to be upset about losing our fourth game of the season with three games left on the schedule says just how far he has brought us. The only thing I question is, why does Jordan Howell play so much. The guy is 2 for his last 22 from the field and one was a lay-up! And 5 for his last 30 from the three point arc. I know Ramar has to rest, and he has not exactly been lighting up the sky, but "Skreech" needs to be 'saved by the bell'

Posted by johnlg00 on February 28, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mparker, you are probably right that I tend to over-analyze things; I was a player who tried to maximize my average talent by studying the game from a young age and I have coaching experience. For all that, I have said that I could certainly not get as much out of these guys as CBP has, does, and, I believe, will. I agree completely with every reason you gave for our loss at Vandy. I merely ask you: if you were coaching against us, how would you change my main "bullet points"?

Posted by TurboFan on February 28, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Marc, volinSmyrna is right, ESPN replayed it (interesting how they choose to replay some stuff but not other), the T was on the opposite end of the court from where you were (Vandy's bench). You may be confused on which T you are remembering.

Smyrna, can you have a foul when there is timeout on the floor? Remember that Jujuan had already asked for one and was given to him. Or would it be a technical?

Posted by EDis4UT on February 28, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Moving on to Kentucky...IMO, if UT doesn't blow out UK in TBA I will be a little concerned. Kentucky road record is horrible, they are a different team playing away from Rupp. We should be well rested, healthy and motivated to win the SEC championship outright. Hopefully, this can be a game that our point guards can break out of thier slumps.

Posted by shopsports on February 28, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think we will come back and beat KY soundly Sunday afternoon, but is the quick turnaround to Gainesville going to bite them again??

Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee rest up guys. Don't blow all you have worked so hard for all season. Don't let those always jealous of TN claim early season success was a fluke. Gayturds are anxious to claim that. Their mouths are already flapping.

Posted by TurboFan on February 28, 2008 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A lot of concern has been placed on tiredness. Another factor that may have been in play is lack of time to study film and practice. I wonder if it was a mistake to travel to Nashville on Monday seeing as how CBP is reluctant to hold a real practice away from home.

As for Florida, unlike after the Memphis game traveling after the Kentucky game is a short walk and the game is early in the day.

Posted by VolnFlorida on February 28, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Even if we win out in the regular season, we will miss a one seed if they bow out early in the SEC tournament. Florida is just sitting and waiting for the Vols next week. BP has to get them ready
or we will see Tuesday repeat itself.

Posted by MOOREVOLS on February 28, 2008 at 11:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good point, WD40. At least they won't be getting into bed at 8:00 am the day after the game like they did after Memphis. I've been worried about the quick turn around for the Flordia game too. I just hope Tennessee can whip Kentucky and then we'll worry about Florida.

Posted by VolJunkie on February 28, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice article on Duke Crews if you are interested:

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/c...

Posted by VolJunkie on February 28, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Come March, short turnarounds are business as usual ... and on the road. The depth of this team is supposed to be a huge plus factor on this point ... this should be good experience for UT

Posted by mparker on February 28, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Johnl;
I suffer from basketball wmd, so I can empathize with you on that one (average talent).

How I would beat us??? The way UK did and LSU almost did:
-maximize the shot clock on every posaession
-put some quick thug on Lofton and foul him constantly so the ref's get tired of calling it (or don't call it at all)
-make JaJuan play D so he can't shoot as well
-hack inside, come over the back, shove, grab jersies on every board
-constantly, constantly attack inside

I hope this doesn't sound overly simplistic. If you have a 3-point shooter who is a stud, that helps. Otherwise, it's gind'em down basketball.

Posted by bricker865 on February 28, 2008 at 11:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree about Ramar. He is spectacular at times and nonexistant at other times. I think Jordan provides a spark off the bench or if Ramar is struggling and we have no choice. Otherwise I think Ramar should be in there based on what I've seen lately. What do you guys think?

Posted by Volchaz on February 28, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry Marc-ash, you were on the far side of Jajuan for his T, and yes there was tone, IMO from 10 feet away.

Posted by marc_ash on February 28, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Like I said, I didn't hear what JuJuan said regardless. He came to the bench after the T happened so maybe thats what I remember. Either way, I still didn't hear what was said specifically.

My mistake I'm sure.

Posted by firetst on February 28, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think the best place for Howell is in the stands. He has blown opportunity after opportunity to hit wide open threes and can't connect. His defense is awful and I can't really detect any reason for him to get so much plalying time. As a former basketball coach, I just don't get it.

Posted by rbhobbs73 on February 28, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think we don't have a true point guard right now, which is why you see Tyler playing the "point forward" position so often.

Tyler is an excellent passer. Ramar is not. There were times Tuesday night that Ramar seemed to forget that Chris Lofton was on his team. There were a couple of opportunities when Ramar drove that he could've hit Lofton for an open 3.

Howell is in a huge shooting slump and can't drive past anyone to the hoop. He really needs to, in my opinion, quit backing up to the half court line every time someone pressures him.

Prince is a turn over waiting to happen, has no jumper and can't go right.

AS for the this year, we keep doing what we are doing and hope for the best because it is too late for any major changes.

For next year...Ramar, J.P., Josh Tabb, and Tyler need to shoot 500 jumpers a day over the summer, and then practice free throws.

Go Vols! We will be fine....Skin the Kitties!

Posted by johnlg00 on February 28, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mparker, no real quibble with any of your points of emphasis. I just didn't want to put out any more info than my hypothetical team could absorb by adding your points, too! You said it perhaps a little more succinctly, but not more simplistically.
bricker865, Ramar has to work hard on defense as well, so I'm not sure how much we can afford to increase his minutes. He just needs to be more productive in the minutes he does play. One big help would be if the other guys worked harder to put themselves in better position to receive more productive passes from Ramar. Short of developing more of a mid-range game, which isn't likely this late in the season, the best thing Ramar could do is to look around a little more as he penetrates and leave a few more "dimes" for Tyler and Wayne. Unfortunately, Wayne often doesn't catch the ball as cleanly in traffic as Tyler does. Another way Ramar could improve is by more often looking to pass the ball out to Chris and JaJuan on the perimeter, given the crowd he draws when he drives. He sometimes gets so focused on working his way to the hoop that he doesn't see other guys who are open.

Posted by Orangeblood13 on February 28, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, gota remember these are still just kids.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_y...

Great article

These Vols are special, gona be a fun ride in March

Posted by johnlg00 on February 28, 2008 at 12:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VolJunkie, thanks for the link to the Duke Crews story. He made a very good impression on me in the clips they showed on ESPN Game Day. I think his close call with the weed situation--whatever the facts of the case may have been--and his heart problem have helped him grow as a person. We could still use a little more productivity out of him on the court, but I'm glad we have him and I hope he continues to improve both on and off the court.

Posted by oldbasshead on February 28, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is going to be interesting to watch JP and Ramar as they develop. I thought that Ramar raised his game a long ways from last year during the first half of this season, but he seems to have lost some of what he gained. Ramar and JP are diamonds in the rough. Right now they are just very inconsistent and it is hurting the team's performance. I think that both are having to think too much and it is causing them to play at a level beneath their natural ability. Who knows, maybe they will come on just in time for us to win a national championship. Pearl has commented how different players have stepped up in different games and were the difference in winning and losing. The other side to that is that UT has not played with consistency. I think the potential to play their best basketball is still ahead of this team and Ramar, JP, Howell and Chism are the one's who hold the key to that because Lofton and T. Smith are playing great.

Posted by DSaVol on February 28, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PLEASE tell me 95% of this crap isn't really on this board! LMFAO!!! Folks this team is 25-3 with the same weaknesses it had when they were 0-0. Perhaps too many actually believed that that #1 ranking meant this was the best team - it isn't. But it doesn't have to be the best team in the country. It just has to be the best team on the floor at game time and so far it seems like they've done a pretty damned good job of that. All you driveway coaches that like to micro-analyze everything need to go back to sleep. Better yet, actually buy a ticket, go to a game, perhaps a few practices (they're open to the public) and maybe you'll have a clue other than reading a box score what these guys are and aren't capable of.

Posted by bleed_orange on February 28, 2008 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Guys, I have enjoyed reading your posts today. Marc_Ash,Johnlg00,mparker,Ironcity,asleep, Plasticman,VolJunkie,Slambob2,VolinSmyrna,WD40plusVol, Eb502us, and 1974Vol to name a few. I believe besides teams like Memphis, North Carolina, Kansas and any other teams that are very talented and like to run and are good at it; I would play alot like Vandy did. #1 Try to slow down the game, #2pick your place for good fouls,#3 try to foul shooters that shoot worst than TN's average (Wayne,Brian,Ryan,Josh,JP,Duke,and Ramar)#4&5 pass the ball on the press and get the ball to the best ball handler, #6 crash the boards,#7 watch the passing lanes,#8get the ball to the best shooters in their favorite places,#9 have some one on Chris at all times, #10 try to keep the ball away from Tyler in the paint,#11 let anyone shoot the 3 but Jajuan, Tyler, & Chris (just don't leave them wide open-run some one at the others),#12 watch the dribble drives of Ramar,Chris,Jajuan,Tyler,&JP, #13 try to limit ones turnovers to 14 or less,and #14 try to keep the score under 80 points. As you can see there are alot of things a team has to do to beat TN, because of their good bench, talented starters, many options, and last but not least try not to get out coached by our Awesome Coach. Remember we are 25-3. That record speeks for itself. The BIG ORANGE WILL BEAT THE kENTUCKY WILDCATS ON SUNDAY! Wednesday will also be a great challenge in Gainsville, but with FL being a young team I think we will beat them as well. Then finally we come home for Senior night for Chris,Jajuan, & Jordan to play SC. Reg. Season over and it will be Tournament time. Nothing elese is needed to be said. I'm sorry for the very long post. GO VOLS!

Posted by grvol on February 28, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just beat KY's sorry a$$ and all will be well.

Posted by bleed_orange on February 28, 2008 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm simply just getting very excited about the end of the season and MARCH MADNESS almost here. One game at a time. Let's go get those Wildcats! GO VOLS!

Posted by dirtdobber1 on February 28, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The players didnt lose the game, the 3 terds dressed in stripes lost the game! Its Memorial Magic alright...you have 3 magicians dressed in stripes leading the magic show!

Even the sports talk host in Nashville feel the game was poorly officiated, in fact a Vandy grad said those official should be fired for that performance!

Why do you think Mears wore the orange blazer for Vandy...he also believed they were a bunch of.......!

The Vols will still be in the top 5 next week and will still get a number 1 seed in NCAA! Suck eggs Vandy!

Posted by bigsig on February 28, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For those of you who are asking why some of us are upset about this loss even though we have had a great season, are missing the point. It's how they won. Again, I propose we play our home game against them next year at our practice facility so that we can have the same type home court advantage that they did. Even though our practice facility is much nicer than the the Marth Ingram Dump. I thought I saw a rat come up and bite JaJuan and his reaction got him a T from another rat. Has anyone ever challenged their Gym set-up? What about the coaches box on "regulation" courts that they are calling so close this year. Vandy doesn't seem to have that so doesn't that in and of itself change the rules. Can you have different rules for different courts? Again, for those of you whining about this being a great season and we shouldn't be upset, I say go be a fan of a mediocre school because that seems to be what you are satisfied with. We have had a great season but I want to win every game as unrealistic as that is. But my mindset is to win every game and I get upset when I feel cheated. Playing at Vandy with their ridiculous set-up, the refs, the dirty play, their classless fans make me feel cheated. I agree that J. Howell needs to move down to the end of the bench with the walk-ons. How many times have I seen him make a bad foul this year. I learned in junior high basketball that if you are going to foul, make sure they don't make the shot. I have seen him foul underneath and then allow the and one so many times it makes me sick. The only thing he is good for is bringing the ball past the time line. Brian Williams could do that.

Posted by johnlg00 on February 28, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DAaVol, I'm sorry if my posts, among some others, tax your attention span, but you have done a good deal of analysis on here, too. If you tire of my comments, just skip them. All of this is just opinion anyway, and you have been fairly free with yours(;-D). A good number of us live too far away to take advantage of your suggestions for our enlightenment. Does that mean we can't follow and root for the team or offer opinions about it? In any case, the real test of what they are or are not doing in practice is what they do on the floor in games, most of which are on TV. I for one have been, I think, lavish in my praise for the team's ability to win despite many obstacles, some of which are of their own making. Your point that the team entered the season with many of the same deficiencies they have shown in their losses--and strengths they have shown in their wins--is worthy of comment in that one comes to expect that a team will improve in some of its weaker areas over the course of the season. We have in fact improved in some respects--better rebounding, as one big example. Anyway, I for one like to think that I can gain more insight by watching the games, when I can, than by merely looking at box scores. Besides, if we can't post on here, many of us would have to actually go out and get a life(;-P)! GO VOLS!!! SKIN THE CATS!!!

Posted by 1974Vol on February 28, 2008 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This Vol team has a great chance of going deep in the Big Dance because they create real match-up problems for most of the real contenders. If we can get back to the Sweet 16, we have as good of chance as anyone of winning it all. Here's why. Lesser teams will try the junk Vandy did, foul, slow the game down, but the big boys just play their style and expect it to beat you, which it does most of the time. Here is a hypothetical Elite 8 UCLA, UNC, Duke, Memphis, Texas, Kansas, Wisconsin, and Tennessee. I think UNC really struggles against the Vol press, Duke has match up problems with our bigs - Vols are bigger and more athletic, Kansas can't match Vol intensity, Wisconsin is too slow, and Memphis we beat by double digits on neutral floor, we're just better than they are at the same game. Which leaves Texas and UCLA that Vols don't match up well against. Just hope they get knocked off by others and we get Memphis or maybe UNC in the final. We have all seen this team play lights out several nights - now just put six of those games together and with Lady Vols GO U-CONN baby!

Posted by dirtdobber1 on February 28, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mcbrim1998- eat crap!

Posted by EDis4UT on February 28, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whoever gets plunked by a LSU team on their home court sure does not scare the hell out of me!

Posted by 1974Vol on February 28, 2008 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

McB -I know you're just anxious about the beatdown the Vols will lay on your Gators next week. I mean if they beat ya 3 of 4 when you were NC quality it is likely to be real ugly the next trip to Gainsville. Then another whoopin' in the SEC Tourney. Three in a year and 6 of the last 7 to the Vols will be tough to take. Doubt you'll be posting much here after that.

Posted by james on February 28, 2008 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When the VOLS went north to KY, they had been crowned #3 and KY was playing for pride. KY dominated the inside game with a freshman and a skinny junior. Our "BIGS" will need to step up. The KY loss and the Vandy loss were caused, in large part to, very poor shooting inside.
Coach P says we need better point play. I would agree somewhat. Our point guards are good players but they need to play within the program. Both try to do too much. Howell should never drive the ball and probably should just handle the ball and pass it. Ramal, drive inside some but not everytime. Sometimes just handle the ball and pass it.
I felt the refs made some bad call (mostly bad no calls-Prince was mugged once) but the two tecnical fouls and the missed freethrows lost the game.

PLEASE get ready for this game with KY. KY will be ready for you.

Posted by mparker on February 28, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

michael mcbride, got take your meds, boy, and get the hell off here.

Posted by mparker on February 28, 2008 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

okay, one more annoying time:

the purpose of the chat board is for KNS to make money off its advertising. they do this with internet 'hit' state. That's cool.

The purpose of the board for FANS is to dissect the game, to be 'driveway coaches', to fuss, and complain, and cheer, and moan.

Those of you who don't like that should perhaps stick to reading articles leave the rest of us alone.

Posted by pdhuff on February 28, 2008 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe ol' lady luck won't desert us Sat Nite. Don't feel good about this one.

Well, lets pull them thru.

Posted by VolJunkie on February 28, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well said mparker.

pdhuff ... Sunday at noon my friend. CBS has the game so at least there is the possibility of an HD telecast and not the regional crap we tend to get. Me, I'll be hanging out in the upper section, but will have a good friend with me who has never been to a UT game, looking forward to some payback.

Go #1 VOLS!

Posted by dirtdobber1 on February 28, 2008 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I could care less about losing to the Gators...2 back to back national championships speaks for itself...but Vandy- I hope Vandy never wins another game! Ever!

Posted by bricker865 on February 28, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim...wow, you sound like a real intelligent mcidiot. Take your meds son.

Posted by marc_ash on February 28, 2008 at 3:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Orangeblood13,

I wouldn't say these men are kids. On the contrary. I know some of the Vol players have fiances, children, adult responsibilites that they have lived up to. I have to also add, Tyler Smiths son is a beautiful young man. Duke Crews was holding him while Tyler was interviewing him. These young men have really stepped up and have shown a lot of class and maturity.

Believe me, they aren't kids by any stretch, and have really shown the maturity in their actions.

Posted by marc_ash on February 28, 2008 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

1974Vol,, Nice analysis. I would agree with you on paper some of those teams (if not all) should make it to the elite 8. However, history shows otherwise and there are always surprises as to who makes it.

I am concerned that the Vols press hasn't worked lately. Not just Tuesday, but it really hasn't done a lot for a while consistently. Hopefully, this issue can be addressed soon.

Posted by bleed_orange on February 28, 2008 at 3:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim1998, I believe if we beat KY,SC and lose to FL we still are 13-3 by ourselves. MSU if lose at least 1 more game probally 2-at FL and at Vandy. In the SEC Tournament, as we know to well, anything can happen. I'm sure the whole SEC West div. would like to play us again (especially Ole Miss, LSU, and MSU-who played us great). If we are lucky and sWeep the Gators; then I wouldn't want us to play them in the SEC Tourney. It is very hard to beat an SEC team 3 times in 1 season (GA & SC ar the only 2 so far that TN has beat twice-FL-who knows, time will tell everything). First things first, BIG ORANGE GET THE CATS BY THE TAIL! GO VOLS!

Posted by marc_ash on February 28, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim1998, If you want to see excuses for losing, please...go to the Commercial Appeal and look around. I know you hate the Vols, but look at what memphis folks are saying and come back and see us.

I also didn't see a lot of posts here giving excuses. If that occurs, look to other posts...if you look at some of the more consistent posters, they are realisitc about the state of the team. You have been welcomed on here for some time...you should at least see that.

Posted by thesavageorange on February 28, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I posted this on a football recruiting thread, but is relevant to Pearl and the b-ball squad.Marlon Brown out of Memphis (6'5 205lb 5*receiver and a 5* shooting guard) was in town last week.In an interview he said he visited w/ both BP and CPF.He kinda laughed when talking about BP, and how cool and funny he was.Also said he liked how CPF was laid back.Folks, BP isn't just our b-ball coach, he is also fast becoming one of our best football recruiters.

Posted by TommyJack on February 28, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

KNS staff on snow break? Articles please.
doldrumzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by VOLS85 on February 28, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hey McBrim,

your gators lost at vanderbilt and at UT last year, and still won the national championship game...do you still think that they didn't deserve to be a top 5 team?

Great teams can still lose and still be a top 5 team and legitimate contender for the national championship. You are unfounded in your comments, and I suggest you take your ignorance elsewehere.

Posted by mparker on February 28, 2008 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

okay, Mr. Mcbride, the square dancing comment was TOOOOO funny....why can't you post more stuff like that???

I laughed for 5 minutes on that one!!!

Posted by mparker on February 28, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was having a 'discussion' about UK's favorable treatment at Rupp, so I thought the following might interest some of you. It is FT attempts only, not fouls. It is not fully accurate, I rushed to get it together.

what should stand out to you is that UT is by and large on par with the opponent, both home and away. UK, however, has a MUCH LARGER advantage at Rupp, usually by 10 FT's. A simple, solid fact for you board trolls, not 'whining' as you love to accuse everyone who doesn't toe your line of doing.

FT's
UT 13 OLE MISS 18 (H)
UT 26 USC 22 (A)
UT 25 Vandy 24 (H)
UT 21 UK 28 (A)
UT 27 UGA 21 (H)
UT 28 BANA 27 (A)
UT 18 MSU 29 (A)
UT 27 UF 30 (H)
UT 15 LSU 4 (A)
UT 37 ARK 29 (H)
UT 16 AUB 28 (H)
UT 32 VU 37 (A)

UK
UK 36 VU 25 (H)
UK 12 MSU 33 (A)
UK 18 UF 40 (A)
UK 28 UT 21 (H)
UK 23 USC 3 (H)
UK 17 UGA 12 (A)
UK 12 AUB 25 (A)
UK 26 BAMA 15 (H)
UK 25 VANDY 35 (A)
UK 10 LSU 10 (A)
UK 18 UGA 8 (H)
UK 27 ARK 14 (H)
UK 26 OLE MISS 13 (H)

Posted by VolJunkie on February 28, 2008 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim: you come to a VOLS board, make inflammatory posts and wonder why you don't feel the love? While most of us look past the trash talk and have respect for insightful comments, when you just come to flame, stuff happens. Frankly I see your point, several of us spent some time on the Commercial Appeal boards last week. It was fun for awhile but soon lost it's appeal ... too much low hanging fruit to be any real sport.

Looking forward to next Wednesday night at your place.

Go #1 VOLS!

Posted by EDis4UT on February 28, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thesavageorange ,

So is this guy wanting to play football or basketball if he comes to UT? PLEASE don't tell me he is going to try to do both. That never seems to work out. By the way the football recruiting is going these days we need his 5 star's more at receiver.

Posted by volinSmyrna on February 28, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To whoever posted the link to the Duke Crews story, THANK YOU!!!!! It takes a REAL sports writer to bring us a good story.

Where were J. Adams and the KNS bunch? I guarantee you if he would have done something negative, it would have been on page one!

These are the kind of stories that we want to read. I guess these stories take a little more effort on their part than reading a police report. These stories make them have to do some real life actual reporting instead of sitting on the tails.

Thank you Yahoo Sports for bringing this to life.

Posted by VolJunkie on February 28, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mparker ... you have WAY too much time on your hands! :)

Interesting stuff though, thanks for sharing.

Posted by mparker on February 28, 2008 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

voljunkie, I had actally statted noticing a trend earlier in the season. MOST games in the SEC have a LITTLE home-cooking, but not dramatically.

Rupp is a different animal.

Posted by General_Watermelon on February 28, 2008 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The best thing about the Vandy game is that it is over.

Posted by thesavageorange on February 28, 2008 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

EDis4UT ,He is going to play both his 1st yr, then evaluate it after both seasons have ended.Wants to see where he has a better chance of going pro.It can be done.Remember Julius Peppers played(I believe) 3yr's of b-ball before realizing his best shot was in football.I posted a few recruiting tidbits and quotes on the Gordon thread if you want to check it out.

Posted by VOLS85 on February 28, 2008 at 4:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim, you continue to make yourself look more and more ignorant...we started 3 freshmen as well, baffling I know, (Wayne Chism, Ramar Smith, Duke Crews). And yes, we still beat you, and I will note that we ended up with 11 losses last year, fairly indicative of where your gators will finish. Thanks for playing though. So yes, we are still a top 5 team, and will continue to be a top five team with a great shot at a national championship. Go humor someone else.

Posted by johnlg00 on February 28, 2008 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mparker, thanks for the info. I cracked up when I saw that the UK at Vandy and Vandy at UK numbers were almost exactly the reverse of each other, favoring the home team both times! Here you have two teams in the same season, presumably with the same personnel and playing the same kind of game, yet both have a double-digit advantage in free-throws at home! Hmmmm...food for thought(;-D)! Admittedly, this was a limited sample.

Posted by mparker on February 28, 2008 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Isn't that one wide receiver going to play basketball as well?? Can't think of his name...

Posted by VolJunkie on February 28, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim ... perhaps a bad choice of words on my part. But now that I think about it, any time you post "Get over it as the Vols have more losses in store over the next few weeks. And they won't be at Vandy so what will be your excuse then?" on a rival's board, I would consider that inflammatory. Unlike the Memphis posters or some FLA posters, at least you have not stooped to personal attacks, demographic references or the like.

Just one man's opinion ...

General ... amen!

Go #1 VOLS!

Posted by thesavageorange on February 28, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mparker ,Yep.E.J. Abrams-Ward.Good thing is it doesn't count against a b-ball scholarship, and BP already has a jump on next yr's class.

Posted by mparker on February 28, 2008 at 4:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

is abrams-ward seriously going to do it? I just remember a mention of it.

Thanks for the info!

Posted by EDis4UT on February 28, 2008 at 4:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thesavageorange,

Yeah I know it can be done. It's just rare. Most of the time it causes tensions between the two coaches and the player is caught up in the middle.

If he can come off the bench and make a impact at PG Coach Pearl could sure use him! He couldn't play basketball until January, correct?

We need to keep a eye on this cat!

Besides, I would love to get a high profile player from Calahari's back yard. That will eat him and their fans alive! LOL!

Posted by johnlg00 on February 28, 2008 at 4:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Speaking for myself, mcbrim1998, I think I first starting getting annoyed with you over all--couldn't say how many, but it was a LOT--of your gratuitous slams on CPF, no matter the topic of the article you posted on. Take a clue from 99gator if you want to see what kinds of posts from "furriners" we respond positively to. It may not be the most objective standard in the world--this site is after all called GoVolsXtra--but comments in the vein of "your team and fans suck" generally are not well received here. Now, I'm not saying that all of OUR posters are always the soul of decorum, but it would be different if they were going on YOUR site, showing their a**. Some of them have admitted going to a Memphis site for some "fun", but we got quite a barrage of similar comments on here from their fans as well. It is possible some of "ours" have done the same on your site. If so, slam them there; discuss, in a civil tone, here.

Posted by brownsvillevol on February 28, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mc brim last year we started no freshmen but sure did sub 3 of them in for many minutes those freshman were chism,crews and ramar smith

Posted by TurboFan on February 28, 2008 at 4:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dane Bradshaw did not play PG. Ramar did and started. However, Duke Crews came off the bench for Chism. So it was only two freshman starters last year. Chism, Smith, Smith, Lofton and Bradshaw.

McBrim, we fret and frown because this Tennessee team is not a dominating, future NBA laden, team. We can be beat and we fans know it and worry. Top five is new to us. Let us fret.

Posted by thesavageorange on February 28, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mparker ,Yes.The deal is as long as it doesn't interfere w/ football.Here is the only b-ball info I could find on him.(good all around athlete)Also a standout basketball player, scoring topping 1,000 points in his career as a three-year starter ... Earned All-State, All-Conference and All-County honors in basketball as a junior ... A standout baseball player, earned All-Conference honors as a sophomore and junior as a pitcher and centerfielder ... Senior team captain for football and basketball

Posted by brownsvillevol on February 28, 2008 at 4:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

im incorrect what i meant to say is we started 2 freshman and subed the third crews and chism started and ramar subed

Posted by TurboFan on February 28, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by mcbrim1998 on February 27, 2008 at 7:32 a.m.

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

On One Night Stand

McB, what did you say that got you censored?

I'll agree you don't flame (and not ignorant), but you do poke fun at UT fans, saying you like Phil and want him to stay and calling UT fans whiners and cheaters. What you don't do is bring much useful info or insightful opinions like 99gator.

Posted by VolJunkie on February 28, 2008 at 5:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim ... I admit you've got big ones to lay a statement like that out there! ... :-P

Posted by johnlg00 on February 28, 2008 at 5:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Right, mcbrim1998, and we know how "sincerely" you meant it.

Posted by VOLS85 on February 28, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

actually the three freshmen we started against FLORIDA lat year in gainesville were josh tabb, ramar smith, and wayne chism...check it

Posted by TommyJack on February 28, 2008 at 5:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim 4:59pm: Be clear on this. It's not unanimous.

Posted by pjhaddix on February 28, 2008 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey, I don't know if it's been mentioned here yet, but we're still #1 on the RPI after the loss to Vandy...which is surprising and good news. See www.realtimerpi.com .
pj

Posted by pupvol on February 28, 2008 at 6:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Let me lay some rocket science on you- shoot good we look good. shoot bad we look bad.

Posted by murrayvol on February 28, 2008 at 6:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim: You're probably not ignorant (that's hard to determine from a message board) but you can be a bit aggravating at times. Particularly when most of the troops are in a bad mood. As for yours truly, 25-3 and a likely top 5 ranking next Tuesday makes life very good indeed.

Carry on and post until your fingers bleed.

Posted by TommyJack on February 28, 2008 at 6:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pupvol: Now there's some wisdom. :) Keeping it pithy.

Posted by pdhuff on February 28, 2008 at 6:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim1998 - Do you think Fulmer could coach basketball? Maybe a swap with Pearl!

Or do you think he should continue as the longevity king of the SEC? I didn't say best coach or best for whomever. Curious......

Posted by EDis4UT on February 28, 2008 at 6:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim1998,

Why don't you turn all your focus on Miss. State? We will focus on Kentucky. If you want to come over here Monday to try to prove a point, fine. We're not worried about he said, you said, from a Gator fan right now. It's about taking it one game at a time.

Posted by General_Watermelon on February 28, 2008 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you shoot 5 for 30 from 3 point range and I'm the coach, you do not shoot 3's any longer. Keep in mind that many of those 3's have been wide open looks too.

Posted by General_Watermelon on February 28, 2008 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here's the proof McBride and if this is not a slam against Coach Fulmer, I do not know what you call it:

Posted on February 19 at 7:01 p.m.

PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! Do not fire coach Fulmer. We look forward to winning our opening SEC game every year.

Go Gators

On Adams: UT football needs a change at the top

Posted by pdhuff on February 28, 2008 at 8:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Aw, can't really blame mcbrim as a Gator fan wanting us to keep ol' Phil. Ck those charts.

I like him, but I hope ol' Crooms never leaves MSU. Johnson and the ol' Ky coach are getting a little too close for comfort, however. He##, I'm getting where I don't feel comfortable playing anyone. Must come from being a realistic codger.

Posted by waterskier3 on February 28, 2008 at 8:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i did not like the loss to vandy but we have to get some rest and focus on kent.... lets beat the cats by 50 and move on to the gators.... lets win the sec and then the sec turny :) and then worry about march madness... the sec is goal number 1 like pearl has been saying all along...

Posted by straightshooter on February 28, 2008 at 9:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was also frustrated to see the guys too often driving toward the basket into traffic when there was no lane to drive in to and basically either shoot wild shots toward the basket missing 80% of the time or else getting charging fouls called. How hard is a little pull up 12 -14 ft. open jumper to make vs.driving into a crowd of guys most of the time taller than UT's front court. I know this team has been tremendously successful in playing as they have but often I scratch my head and think how, with this type of shot selection. I know a final four appearance isn't going to happen unless the shot selection tightens up. And that includes Lofton launching 3 point corner shots falling away.Most often barely catching iron or hiting the side of the backboard.

Posted by yabadabadoo1026 on February 28, 2008 at 9:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ohhhhhh straightshooter, you've done it now, better buckle up cause the rath is coming your way after comments like that--we'll have no seemingly valid thoughts like that around hereeeeeeee!!!!

Posted by rabidvolfan on February 28, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You guys are unreal the way you criticize the basketball team. You all are the same people who whines about UT not getting any respect in football by ESPN and the national media. Well why don't you all listen to the national media right now. This UT basketball team is one of the main things ESPN, Rome, and national talk shows are talking about. Go to the Kentucky message boards. You'll see many Kentucky fans pulling for us. Did you ever think you would see that? This team is nation wide! They are getting the respect that everyone has always wanted to see the football team get.I think the reason ESPN and the national media has always disrespected our football team goes back to the way we done Coach Majors. Which does make sense if you think about it.

Posted by murrayvol on February 28, 2008 at 10:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brilliant rabidvolfan! But explain to me what "we" done to Coach Majors. Can't speak for the rest of you guys but I've thought about it and I'm as pure as the driven snow on that issue. Trust me when I say I had no hand in his removal. He was my first sports hero and remains so to this day. I've even got his autographed picture on my wall congratulating me on the birth of my son.

Posted by murrayvol on February 28, 2008 at 10:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, I like this basketball team. 25-3, top 5 ranking, could go very deep in the tourney. What's not to like? I think most everyone else likes them too. They're just a little punked out after a tough week. Kicking UK's a$$ will sort that out.

Posted by mparker on February 28, 2008 at 10:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

okay, Mr McBride, since you actually wish to discuss bball....

I do indedd have concerns over the UF game.
-it's in Gainesville, a tough place to play for ANY team
-UF fans hate UT as much as Vandy fans do
-Billy D is a GREAT coach
-UF is now an experienced team, they are no longer freshmen
-At UT, the game was tight until fairly late in the seoncd-half; we defeneded the pick and roll (okay, the pick and sprint) horribly

There is every chance in the world we lose in Gainesville. In fact, it is about 60-40.

Posted by EDis4UT on February 28, 2008 at 10:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Interesting that a Gator and occasionally a tigger fan putting their 2 cents in worth, but no UK fans. What's going on north of the border? A little apathy... maybe?

Posted by coach75 on February 28, 2008 at 11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

only twice did i think that we tool unnecessary shots. chris and jujuan took back to back bad three attempts when the score was either tied or we were down one. chris got out on a one on one break with no vols across half court and jacked up a 25 footer and the next possession jujuan came down and jacked up a twent footer first thing. after chris' shot i believe vandy scord two and after jujuan they it a three to go up wither 5 or 6. i am not whining, but i do believe that a technical should have been called on neltner for diving on after the whistle. this would have given us two shots and the ball back when the game was either tied or we were down 2. enough about tuesday, take care of business sunday afternoon and we will be fine.

Posted by posivol on February 28, 2008 at 11:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

good game for the vols to learn from.they will most likely see this type of game again come tournement time.POISE/POISE/POISE

Posted by rabidvolfan on February 28, 2008 at 11:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MurrayVol, there is no explanation needed. You follow the program.We done Majors the same we we did Delmonico in baseball. It's too bad we throw people under the bus who puts us on the map, and we keep people around forever who makes us look stupid.Anyway, back to basketball discussion, it's the only thing that we have to be proud of.

Posted by EDis4UT on February 29, 2008 at 12:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

rabid,

From one VOL brother to another, me and you will just have to argee to disargee one some things. :)

Posted by marc_ash on February 29, 2008 at 7:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

EDis4UT,

They show up now and again. Hiresanders has been back here and there. He ran his mouth after the Vandy loss the other day. Still hasn't responded to my post about his comments "Randy Sanders would be dancing at mid field when the Cats beat the Vols in Lexington" though. Figures.

Airforce one is on here often too. He adds some pretty good comments for a Cat. He's calmed down a lot, and I enjoy his posts.

That being said...I'm sure you can expect a lot more cats fans if they beat us again on Sunday. they are a scary team.

Go Vols.

Posted by dopedawg on February 29, 2008 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gol Vols--beat the kats this Sunday!!

Posted by pdhuff on February 29, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My faith in BP is strong. And will be till I see him holding a clipboard staring at a chart, muttering, "we've got to work like heck".