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Tide has off-field trouble

Saban admits his team has behavior problem

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. - Off-the-field problems have been piling up for Alabama's football team.

Two players were arrested in a span of six days, one player has been dismissed and linebacker Prince Hall has been indefinitely suspended.

With spring practice approaching and a top-rated recruiting class recently wrapped up, coach Nick Saban still often finds himself dealing with 'Bama's bad behavior.

"It's a problem. It is a problem," Saban said Tuesday at a news conference. "Our team needs to have better discipline, judgment. We cannot tolerate poor judgment."

The latest incidents have included the arrest of All-SEC safety Rashad Johnson on disorderly conduct charges after he allegedly pushed a security guard to the ground at a bar in the off-campus district called the Strip early last Saturday morning.

Plus, Saban said Tuesday he has kicked freshman defensive tackle Jeremy Elder off the team following his recent arrest for allegedly robbing two other students at gunpoint. He said Hall has been suspended for "violation of team rules and policies related to his behavior" and won't participate in spring practice or the team's offseason program.

Hall has started 13 games over the past two seasons.

"At some point in the future, we'll determine what his future in this program really is," Saban said.

The recent problems were only the latest incidents for the Tide. All told, eight players have been arrested in the nearly 14 months since Saban's hiring, five for disorderly conduct.

He did indicate that Johnson, a team captain, would not face suspension. The arrest of one of the team's stars and leaders was another public black eye on the program, though.

"Regardless of how many people got arrested this week on the Strip, there was only one on ESPN, only one on Fox Sports and only one all over the state of Alabama in every newspaper," Saban said. "The consequences for his behavior and the responsibility that he has and the opportunity that he has is far greater.

"It's the price that we all play to have that opportunity. We cannot continue to have these kinds of issues and problems in the future."

Most of the arrests have stemmed from incidents on or near the Strip. Saban said if the problems continue, he might consider imposing more restrictions on his players. He called Johnson "as fine a person as we have on our football team."

"I've said enough is enough and we're trying to fix it," Saban said. "But Rashad Johnson does not need to get suspended from the team. I'm not saying what he did was right. I'm saying he put himself at risk in a bad situation.

"He has a due process to go through and he is not guilty until he goes through that due process. I think this is America and I think we're allowed to do that even though you all (reporters) have already convicted him of doing something terribly wrong."

Four players arrested before last season on mostly similar charges were not suspended for any games. There were plenty of others forced to sit out.

"We've had 30 games missed by players last year for suspensions," Saban said. "That may be an NCAA record. We're heading in that direction again next year."

© 2008, The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.

       12 Comments

Posted by eefor10c on February 27, 2008 at 12:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JOHN, JOHN, JOHN Where are you? You let the AP do this story. Shouldn't you be on Paul Finebaum's program calling for heads to roll at Bama?

Posted by Germany_Vol on February 27, 2008 at 2:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Every program has its future cons.

Posted by billed23 on February 27, 2008 at 5:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Is this some sort of lame apology to Fulmer. I am surprised John can admit some other coach than Fulmer could have discipline problems.

Posted by billed23 on February 27, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My mistake, I thought John had written the artical, even I should have known better.

Posted by Social_control_revolution on February 27, 2008 at 8:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry! I don't care how many problems Alabama football is having!! You can't distract us with the idea that everyone else is having discipline problems too. The Vols have no excuses for their discipline problems other than the fact they have the wrong idea about what an athlete is!

Posted by jweaver3 on February 27, 2008 at 8:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No article saying the Tide need a change at the top????????????????
I guess you would lose your membership to TideSports.com.
Who Cares?????
GO VOLS
TXVOLSFAN

Posted by sjt18 on February 27, 2008 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Where is iam4ua? Where are the rest of the Bama rock throwers?

This matters because it provides perspective on the public but comparatively minor problems UT has had over the past two months.

If Bama has had 8 major incidents then there is little doubt that is only the tip of a big iceberg.

Posted by DadwasaVol on February 27, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Does this mean that other programs, besides Fulmer's, have problems? Shocking.

Posted by Pullingguard on February 27, 2008 at 5:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

John probably tried to surpress this article. He is a lover of the competition and sees no bad in whatever they do, although not an expert on either competition or the home team, his ideas and articles are mostly dead end, and we should not concern ourselves so much with those kind of people or writers or the KNS...

Posted by rockytop on February 27, 2008 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It was just reported by the AP that a former KNS paperboy was arrested for "disturbing the peace" and resisting arrest. Since the paperboy regularly delivered the entire paper, including the sports page, I think John Adams, sports editor, should step down. Obviously he has lost control of his paperboys. Fire Adams

Posted by Indianavol on February 29, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Looks like the chickens have come home to roost in Tuscaloser. The dirty cheating Bammer Moron bastards like to point fingers, but they get selective amnesia when their players get in trouble.

""It's a problem. It is a problem," Saban said Tuesday at a news conference." What a revelation by a $4 million pompous ass, money-grubbing fool!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008....

Hey Bammer Morons; here is a finger for you. Guess which one!

Go back to your dirty little hives in Tuscaloser.

Posted by IPOrange on February 29, 2008 at 9:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Quoting gwdun, one of our Big Orange brothers from an earlier post:

paROLE, Tide, paROLE.

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