Posted by TommyJack on February 29, 2008 at 6:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm sure Josh will get some excellent care. :)

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 6:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack.

I knew that was going to hit here...just not that fast!

Posted by TommyJack on February 29, 2008 at 6:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Geoff: Way too much time on my hands.

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 6:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hear ya'. I do think something else is about to hit the fan.

Posted by TommyJack on February 29, 2008 at 6:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You know something, or just a gut feeling?

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 6:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gut feeling only this time.

Posted by dadavids on February 29, 2008 at 6:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What are you feeling?

Posted by IPOrange on February 29, 2008 at 6:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ole Josh may have injured that knee playing footsies with too many girls at the same time.

Perhaps this would be a good time to reprint the limerick honoring his previous accolades.

Posted by thesavageorange on February 29, 2008 at 6:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff ,It's not you're gut geoff.W/ the way things have gone recently, it's just time.It's the weekend so everybody cross you're fingers.Psshh, gulp,ahhhh.Here's to an arrest free weekend!I hope.

Posted by DennisVols on February 29, 2008 at 6:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tommyjack/tngeoff
I have never hurt my knee to a point of needing arthroscopic knee surgery doing what you two were implying earlier. :-)

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DennisVols!

Whoah Nellie!

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 6:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thesavageorange.

Yup. The weekend and it's been very, very quiet.

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 7:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0UOZ9...

When I lived in San Diego and worked for the Anthony Robbins Companies, the office I was in was right across from Miramar Air Base. It was unbelievable! Those Marines are crazy (Marine air base now).

Posted by thesavageorange on February 29, 2008 at 7:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff ,Thank god our guys don't have access to one of those things.Can you see one of the player's doing a field sobriety test next to an F-15 w/ his football helmet on.Coooool it guys, it was a joke.

Posted by IPOrange on February 29, 2008 at 7:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DennisVols -
You're just not trying hard enough!

Posted by thesavageorange on February 29, 2008 at 7:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DennisVols ,That's cuz you're not putting in overtime.geoff, I said that once.My wife was pissed!

Posted by IPOrange on February 29, 2008 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No pun intended.

Posted by thesavageorange on February 29, 2008 at 7:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, not as mad as the time I said Touchdown SAVAGE ORANGE.I got couched for that one.

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 7:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thesavageorange.

You crack me up Bro'! Good stuff!

This would be better suited for the players though. Three years ago while I was under contract in Jacksonville, NC I got watch these bad boys go through final testing (when I was in San Diego they were having BIG trouble with them). They're not only ready for action now...many have been deployed and have been very effective in Iraq:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4H3DlGZJl0c

I can't even begin to tell you how cool these are. Big too! No place for drunks!

Posted by IPOrange on February 29, 2008 at 7:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff -

Those are some bad boys, for sure. For a huge rush, I'm still partial to these fellas, here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8T3ywj_UJ0...

Wish I could hitch a ride one day.... probably throw up all over myself, but it'd be worth it.

Posted by thesavageorange on February 29, 2008 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff ,That's a nice ride.Reminds me of when I lived in ST.Louis.My dad worked for McDonald Douglas, and I got to see tests', sit in aircraft etc....I always loved to watch the Harrier take off.I was sad when it closed, it really took a tole on the old man.

Posted by thesavageorange on February 29, 2008 at 7:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well boys ,I'm gonna close up shop early tonight.(business is terrible)You people are a hoot.I'll walk in the house tonight, and my wife will ask how business was,and I'll say slow.Then she'll say,well what did you do sit around talking to you're vol buddies all day?I'll ofcoarse lie and say no.Please lord, don't let anyone get arrested!

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IPOrange.

Whoah! Great video! Those guys are incredible! Here's some horsepower in a different venue. Over 5,0000 to be in the ballpark. ) - 100 in one second! More G-Force that the Space Shuttle! I'd love to make one pass in one of the se baby's:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KIRTobOsZ14

thesavageorange.

This is very cool that your Dad worked for McDonald Douglas! I bet you had the time of your life with that stuff! Those Harriers were wild!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RI7MBZ9Z_mM

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thesavageorange.

See ya' Bro'! Have a great evening!

Posted by pdhuff on February 29, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff, I saw a Steerman PT-17 K fly once. Is that about the same thing?

Hope ol' Josh will be okay for the fall. Good warrior. He's probably on lite ladies duty for a while.

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 7:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pdhuff.

Isn't that a bi-plane?

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 7:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How's this for jet power?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yz319...

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 7:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pdhuff.

Have you ever seen this guy? My first time was at Raceway Park - Englishtown, NJ. He is nuts!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa9ktm...

Posted by IPOrange on February 29, 2008 at 8:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff -

Man! That guy must have a death wish or something. Serously, he ain't right. Did you notice the music playing there at the venue? It was a little low on the video, but you could hear it OK.

T-N-T!

Posted by IPOrange on February 29, 2008 at 8:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Have a good one, savage. Keep your head up :-)

Posted by pdhuff on February 29, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yep, tng- it is a bi-plane with tons of power. Good friend John Reed died in one south of Atl.

In 20-odd years in the racing industry, I saw most of the acts. Probably the best was Robosaurus, the car eating giant dinosaur. Big as a tractor-trailer and a half, he stunned people by chomping a Ford Van in half at Charlotte. Then dropping it from probably 30 feet in the air. Google him or he just sold at Barrett-Jackson in Arizona. Unbelievable.

Say you feel something is in the air. And during the doldrums, too. You'll have ol' sjt18 up to 4000 posts shortly with teasers like that. He way ahead of you anyway.

Posted by pdhuff on February 29, 2008 at 8:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff - youtube.com/watch?v=c2xTMPLuZ1 I hope that's right.

beat KY.

Posted by tngeoff on February 29, 2008 at 8:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You guys are great. I gotta' roll though. Sorry about John Reed pd. IP - that guys is crazy. He does that act (and it's for real) all over the Country. Just say no to arrested developments! Night guys.

Posted by KingsportVol on February 29, 2008 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Josh look at the bright side.You still have your 2 good knees.The right knee and the Weenie.Get well soon.Stay off the right one.Go Big Orange!

Posted by IPOrange on February 29, 2008 at 8:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, Kingsport, but he loses his balance at the most inopportune times, now.

Posted by KingsportVol on February 29, 2008 at 8:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IPOrange lol

Posted by IPOrange on February 29, 2008 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whoa, Nellie Aaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiii!

Posted by DennisVols on February 29, 2008 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thesavageorange / IPOrange
Maybe it's because I warm up properly. LOL

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on February 29, 2008 at 10:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey fellows.

I'm going to post why I (and I think many others) get so upset about the Fulmer bashing.

First, I want to apologize to Geoff and some of the other guys on here. Reading some of the recent threads, and going through the "doldrums" of the offseason with you guys, I do appreciate a good number of you for being diehard fans. It is obvious you wouldn't make routine visits to this site if you weren't. I also appreciate a little sense of comradere among you folks. Kudos and GBO! RTYAB!

Having said that, I want to also say that I appreciate your opinons of Fulmer and the state of the program, no matter how extreme they may be. We all have opinions and all our opinions as a whole mean something.

OK, now the reason (though) why I cringe at some of your comments, especially the more locker-room and juvenile stuff.

The reason we all, as Vol fans, can share comradere is because we've had great players, coaches, and teams come through Neyland and wear the orange. All the coaches, good or bad, have left lasting memories, great wins even contrasted with miserable defeats, and reasons to be proud to hail from East Tennessee or wherever in Tennessee you may be from or to be an alumnus of the university.

Phil Fulmer is ABSOLUTELY no exception to that rule, and as a matter of fact is the epitomy of it. No other coach save for General Neyland has orchestrated the Vol history that Fulmer has. Coach Majors would IMHO take the third spot in all time coaching heroes.

Now, to whatever degree you may agree or disagree with what I just said, I think we can all agree that it is much nicer to reflect on the good memories of an era rather than focus on the negative. It's much better to come together as Vol fans and reflect on the heroics of each team, each season, and each player. I think even the horrible 05 season can be picked apart for positives and highlights.

So without saying any more, I'd like to have you guys think about the legacy of the Fulmer era and what it means to tarnish it. Is the tarnishment of the era worth the expediancy of change that you desire? And given that this expediancy will not occur without a very poor season next year, isn't it in the best interest of all our collective Vol memories to support the coach in his effort to fix this team's image? What do we, as fans, want? Don't we WANT to help write a good chapter in Vol lore?

OK, my soapbox speech is finished. Just think about it.

Posted by JohnAdamsIsTrash on February 29, 2008 at 10:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, your making fun of a kid for getting laid. What losers you must have been at that age. You Fulmer bashers are enjoying a good lovefest in here tongiht. It's very cute!

!!! Fire John Adams !!!

Out!

Posted by JohnAdamsIsTrash on February 29, 2008 at 10:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vol in LSU land

I have to give you props for a well said arguement on Fulmer. I doubt you'll get much from these Major's lovers though. Doug Dickey made a good decision on majors but handled it in a bad way. Thats not Fulmers fault!

Go Vols !!!

Fire John Adams !!!

OK Now I'm out !!!

Posted by Volfan1 on February 29, 2008 at 11:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Adams = no credibility.

Posted by goldengate on February 29, 2008 at 11:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No, no, no, vol-in-lsu-land... it's ALL Fulmer's fault. FOOLmore (I feel I must appease the anti-Fulmer crowd) worked tirelessly, as Majors' assistant, to get Majors' hooked on the sauce (Fulmer mixed the booze with orange koolaid), act a fool on his postgame show, make enemies within the "inner circle", etc. It wasn't Johnny, it was Phil.

Then Fulmer put the mojo on Dickey by using his SuperDuper KrispyKreme Fritters, and once he gained total mind-control, had Dickey oust Majors.

You probably don't know this, but Fulmer is also responsible for Jimmy Carter's failed presidency, the Bhopal, India, chemical disaster, Chernobyl, AND the rise to popularity of Michael Bolton.

Posted by IPOrange on February 29, 2008 at 11:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well done, vol_in_lsu_land. Good points worthy of contemplation.

JAMustGo - try to cheer up, dude. Life is hard enough as it is.

"We must laugh at man, to avoid crying for him." - Napolean Bonaparte

"Laugh and the world laughs with you. Snore and you sleep alone." - Anthony Burgess

Posted by pdhuff on March 1, 2008 at 7:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

vol- in lsu land - good post -noticed one telling word in your post. Fulmer "has". Not "is" anymore. "Has" as in the past.

Sadly, younger fans are not interested in history. I have a 15 yr old neighbor who thinks Tenn is not (and has never been) in the league with Fla and LSU. And is pite of recent wins, he says Ga overall is much better .!!! He can only go (like all of us) on what he's seen. And it hasn't been pretty.

Beat KY.

Posted by drwfocus on March 1, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

IPOrange 7:31 Back in '66 I got to ride in the rear seat of an F4 Phantom off the old Kearsarge Carrier (affectionately known by other ships as the Queer Barge - PC hadn't started yet!)I went from Toranto, Italy to Rota, Spain - lifetime experience. You are right about a few things, fighter pilots are crazy (have to be)and I did use the barf bag.

Posted by VOLinDAWGland on March 1, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pdhuff,
Here's to an outstanding 2008, an outstanding recruiting class in 2009, an exciting power offense that continues to attack even with a lead in the 4th qtr and to changing perspectives of 15 yr olds everywhere.

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on March 1, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes PDHUFF,

I understand, indeed we ALL understand that Vol football has gone through a (honestly) 5 or 6 year slump. 2001 being the last year that Vol football was really part of the national picture. We all know that we had an opportunity to go to the Rose Bowl and play for the trophy. We all know that LSU took that opportunity from the Vols and we all know this was the pivotal point that sort of sent the program into a downward trend.

We all know that 2005 was the rock bottom for the program. What made 2005 worse was the fact that preseason Tennessee was given a LOT of national attention and respect and was viewed as a top 5 contender by most of the "experts". To spiral from preseason top 5 all the way down to not even qualifying for a bowl game is UNTHINKABLE in Tennessee football, no matter who the coach is. None of us can explain it.

We can all agree that we had a healthy and in fact elite football program up until 2005 can't we? The span between 2001 and 2005 was not Fulmer's best years by a long shot, and we lost a lot of bowl games and failed to finish in the top 10, but I think most expected us to have a break away season at some point.

Well, I realize that we're still waiting on that break away season. But my point still stands that Fulmer has contributed as a coach some of the best football EVER played at Tennessee.

Surely, though we haven't won the SEC title since 98, we can appreciate the many appearances we've made in the big game? Surely the multiple trips to Atlanta this decade can in totallity be considered a highlight of Tennessee football even while we haven't brought home a trophy?

The story of the kid who doesn't think UT football is any good is interesting. I wonder home much that 15 year old kid has been influenced by the negativity of some peer, family member, friend, or media outlet? I'm not implying that he doesn't have a mind of his own, but we ALL are influenced by others.

Have YOU taken the time to tell this kid how great UT football has been, even if not so much lately? Have you mentioned to this kid that every program goes through slumps, even with good coaches? Have you pointed out that even Majors and Neyland had some mediocre teams?

I am a FIRM believer in self-fullfilling prophecies. I am a person who is very hard on myself and can easily let negative self talk rule my life. I know that my best times are when I shed the negativity and take on a can-do attitude. I believe FIRMLY that we as Vol fans are doing WAY more harm to the program than any coach could possibly do by wallowing in the negative. It ABSOLUTELY carries over to the spirit of the team. WE ARE THE TWELFTH MAN.

Posted by tngeoff on March 1, 2008 at 9:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Funny thing is that most on here who are deemed, "negative" love Tennessee football just as much if not more than anyone else here or anywhere. Most of those deemed, "negative" have long experience with Tennessee football and therefore more perspective. Most of those deemed, "negative" just don't want dellusional thinking to rule the state of Tennessee football. When folks start being honest, it tempers all responses and makes for easier "team" mentality. Then, on the other hand when someone who is obviously "pro Fulmer" starts making ignorant ramblings about how everything is beautiful or verbally assaults Johhny Majors, it should be expected that an anti Fulmer dose of truth serum is bound to follow. So, when reality is put in perspective, it is impossible to be unified because there are always those who think that an illussion is real and there are those who know it isn't. If you noticed, I didn't post the next lesson in the "Nothing is Worng" series. But, since National journalists cleary do perusue this site, it is a tempation when ever there is more illusional, delussional and anti-Majors rhetoric posted. Remember, if you read the full transcript of "Nothing is worng - Part I - Which by the way preceeded that National story at CBS.com by only a few days) then you can't realistically think everything is beautiful. If and when I post Part II it will only be in reaction to rhetoric. If you play the game of illussion...you can expect the opposing point of view to express their reasoning. The primary difference here is that "illussions" cannot be supported and truth can.

Posted by tngeoff on March 1, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way...what do you think Mike Freeman would do if I e-mailed him "Nothing is worng - Part's I and II?" My guess? The fit would really hit the shan. So get ready...one...two...three...taunt away!

Posted by Titan on March 1, 2008 at 10:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Geoff - I've been away a while - who is Mike Freeman?

Posted by KingsportVol on March 1, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

vol_in_lsu_land preach it.Coach Fulmer is a great man.He loves the prevent offense and is a great leader.You got my vote CF.Go Big Orange!

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index...

Posted by tngeoff on March 1, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Titan.

Mike Freeman is the Nationally syndicated sports writer for CBS Sports who dropped this bomb last week on the heels of John Adams column:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/columns/sto...

Posted by invisiblekid on March 1, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pdhuff, Robosaurus sold at Barrett-Jackson, that's hilarious to me for some reason. Imagine the guy coming home to the little wife with ol' Robo in tow, "YOU SPENT 400,000$ ON WHAT???".

As far as McNeil goes, best of luck with the surgery and rehab. A word of advice to the doctor, keep the potted plants away from him and make sure the nurses are smoking hot.

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on March 1, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Geoff.

Please write your "Nothing is Worng" (whatever that means) opinions. You are welcome to see the world through the glasses you want to see it through. But just as you think that I and others see "illussions" (correctly spelled illusions), we feel you LIVE in an illusion. That illusion is believing that Tennessee football (or any other school's football for that matter) will EVER be the annual powerhouse that you expect, or the illusion that somehow Tennessee football was much better before (ie Majors) or that there is some god-ordained reason that Tennessee football is supposed to be better than any other program.

Do you guys see how dillusional Bama fans can be? Look at their feelings about Nick Saban...they expect Bama football to be so great they are willing to pay this man 4 mill a year to "restore" it to its rightful place. My friends, WE are becoming as dillusional as Bama fans.

And please don't ever accuse ME of being anti-Majors. He'd the only coach I ever actually met (on two occasions), and I have a signed game program with his picture that I got when I was a teenager. He IS part of the lore and legend of Tennessee history, as will Phil Fulmer if we don't continue to drive his good name in the mud.

Posted by invisiblekid on March 1, 2008 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Titan, if you read that Freeman article, get ready to take some aspirin afterwards. It's not so much the message itself in his or Adams' column that I have issue with, given Fulmer's past track record on discipline he needs to be doing it better and running things cleaner than other coaches, it's simply the delivery. Both Adams and Freeman cover up their lack of an original thought up with shock and awe tactics, an overt sense of self-importance, and some of the worst cliches around.

Posted by Plasticman on March 1, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why was this surgery not done back in Jan. after the season was over???

Posted by invisiblekid on March 1, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

vol-in-lsu-land, my take on the Fulmer situation since things started getting really ugly in '05 has been pretty simple. I want to see nothing more than Fulmer succeed at the highest level because if it's good for Fulmer than it's good for the program. I am of the opinion that Fulmer is entrenched to the point that it would take a historic collapse for him to be forced out of the program and no fan wants to see that.

It's well-documented that things haven't been so rosy since the turn of the century with inconsistency on and off the field being the key term in my opinion. The truth of the matter, as it is with many scenarios, falls somewhere in the middle of public opinion. Things aren't as bad or as good as some make it out to be.

That's where the arguments and "negativity" begins, two camps on either end of the spectrum that are unwilling to believe there may be some common ground. I have seen as much venom and personal attacks spewed by the "positive" camp as the negative camp on here. The problem with some of the "positive" folk is that they seem to have the belief that UT Football begins and ends with Fulmer. Tiger Woods didn't create golf and Phil Fulmer didn't create UT Football. Fulmer shouldn't be above reproach when it comes to the team to consistently perform at a high level on the field and an acceptable level of behavior off of it.

On the other end of things, you have those that blatently despise the man and relish in his every failure. Not much hope for these people, I usually take what they say with a grain of salt and move on. Again, just my take on things.

Posted by TommyJack on March 1, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kid: Good stuff. Most of the loser/haters do NOT despise The Professor. Bring on the season!

Posted by cjraney on March 1, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff-
1. You seem to be inferring that your posts had something to do with the CBS story. Is this really the case?
2. Why is Majors even at issue here? If you or others have criticisms to aim at the current coach then have at it, but the legend that is Johnny Majors has absolutely nothing to do with Vol football in 2008. To include him in your dissertations only inserts evidence of bias and subjectivity to your often valid points.
3. Consider this scenario if you will: Fulmer retires in a couple years. His successor builds momentum then, guides UT to achieve a measure of greatness [i.e. SEC champs & contention for Nat'l champs]. 3-5 years after the peak Vol fans begin to notice a gradual decline in wins and lack of championships. Discontent builds among the faithful.

What period of time and what coach's reign will future Vol fans point to in comparison & to show that another change is needed on the hill?

Go Vols. Make Ashley Judd cry.

Posted by TommyJack on March 1, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cj: Is Ashley the rocket, or the wide one?

Posted by cjraney on March 1, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ-
She's lean. The one in the movies & married to the Formula 1(?) driver. I want to see open sobbing by all Wildcat fans.

Posted by tngeoff on March 1, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cjraney.

You make good points. My reference to Majors was simply because there is a post up above which basically besmirches him. I gave up arguing that long ago, as per my agreement I amde to the posters here. As for the National story, I was only finding it ironic in timing, not concluding that I had anything to do with it. My point was intended to say that the author used very little fact in his column and my point was that there are plenty of hard facts that if one is to write that type of scathing column, I for one would like to see facts that support the conclusion. I have said before and I will say again. Phil Fulmer has done great some things...especially the completely legitimate and well deserved National Championship. However, since then, there have been many, many problems. Some choose to try to ignore them. I don't. I hope we win the National Championship NEXT YEAR. Do I think we will? It's not logically possible, but then some never are logical that happen. We have the players. Now it's up the the coaches (notice plural) to deliver whatever gets delivered.

Posted by tngeoff on March 1, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack.

This one:

http://www.getonmyspace.com/Images/Fe...

Posted by tngeoff on March 1, 2008 at 1:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cjraney.

My reply still didn't look clear. My point was that I just posted significant links to events and player problems and the guy didn't use any facts...yet they were right there for the viewing. And if he woild write with that column with no facts...imagine what he might wtrite if he had real facts. Nuf' said.

Posted by tngeoff on March 1, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

An opinion:

http://ymswwc.wordpress.com/2007/10/2...

Posted by TommyJack on March 1, 2008 at 1:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Geoff: One could have worse fans...

Posted by IPOrange on March 1, 2008 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yessir, that one right there is a looker.

Posted by tngeoff on March 1, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack.

No doubt about that!

Posted by GerryOP on March 1, 2008 at 2:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Since Mother Maybelle Carter and Aunt Minnie Pearl have passed on, could we get Dolly Parton to attend the game tomorrow? Would that counterbalance Ashley?

Posted by Volfan1 on March 1, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All of you Mike Freeman bandwagon riders, keep this in mind....he wrote for the FLORIDA TIMES-UNION in Jacksonville (Gators stronghold) before he "wrote" for CBS.
It's amazing how a former Gator follower could say anything negative about Fulmer....(sarcasm intended.)
Get a clue guys before you take everyone who is a talking head or a keyboard pusher at their word just because they work for CBS.

Posted by pdhuff on March 1, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GerryOP, you have more fun taking Tanya Tucker to the game. Girl knows how to throw down.

Lean and mean, the color of blood, never was a hoss like the Tenn Stud. Beat the Cats.

Invisiblekid _ yeah, I watched Robo sell. The guy was a genius who built him. Can you imagine throwing down about 9 Buds and firing that bad boy up? Gets people's attention. That roar can be heard about two miles and 20 feet of flame is impressive. Then he folds up and goes down the road. Bring him thru the "T" some night game, boy howdy.

tngeoff, study the charts hard. You stay the course. Lessons are there for the learning. HMS Hood didn't think Bismarck could throw a shell 14 miles either. They'll learn. Have a glazed.

Posted by TommyJack on March 1, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gerry: Hard to mention counterbalance and Dolly in the same sentence without breaking up.

Posted by GerryOP on March 1, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You ain't wrong on TT pdhuff. That woman can hurt. She still hangin' loose?

Yup TJ, her balance is indeed pre-car-i-ous.

Posted by AlpharettaVol on March 1, 2008 at 6:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Vol-in-lsu -- We all appreciate your comments. I even agree with most of them. Is it possible to purchase them in a hardback edition? I'd like to put it on my book shelf next to War and Peace.

Posted by pdhuff on March 1, 2008 at 7:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Try a quick read like Hawaii, by Mitchener or.....

Beat KY.

Posted by TommyJack on March 1, 2008 at 7:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AlpharetaVol: Ole SJT18 will be peed if you award the Leo Tolstoy award to another. lol

Posted by TommyJack on March 1, 2008 at 7:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18's parishioners are setting their TiVo's for the game tomorrow. They know they won't see natural light til 3pm. Fry the chicken tonite ladies.

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on March 1, 2008 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I say what I want, at the length of my choosing, and don't give a screw what anyone thinks about it.

You think that was long? You ain't seen nothing. Maybe I'll start REALLY putting my thoughts into prose.

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on March 1, 2008 at 8:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Besides, I have a life and don't post NEARLY as often as some of you. I get in all I need to say with one posting and move on.

Good night ladies. Enjoy your daily hen party tomorrow.

Posted by tngeoff on March 1, 2008 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uG5NhkxQJQc

Posted by pdhuff on March 1, 2008 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ, I'd still awaiting your tome on the parking lots of Boerne. Riveting.

We park on the grass here at church.

Beat the Cats.

Posted by goldengate on March 1, 2008 at 10:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't let it bother you, vol-in-lsu-land. To many of those living in Alpharetta, Dr. Seuss = Dr. Zhivago.

And I wonder if the fritter pounder can read at all.

Have you noticed the little lovefest once one of the anti's writes something one of the others thinks is funny. They start their little back-and-forth love notes, congratulating each other on how many YouTube URL's they can post. Now THAT is some good stuff down at the trailer park, I bet. That's what too much computer time does for some folks.

Posted by tngeoff on March 2, 2008 at 7:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

goldengate.

I for one certainly aspire to cerebral zen mastery that one such as yourself has clearly attained. Give us some more superior insight! I promise not to make fun of your little love note to LSU. Teach us!

Posted by tngeoff on March 2, 2008 at 7:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

goldengate.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EmyaDrAzq6o

Posted by goldengate on March 2, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

RE:

"Posted by tngeoff on March 2, 2008 at 7:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

goldengate.

I for one certainly aspire to cerebral zen mastery that one such as yourself has clearly attained. Give us some more superior insight! I promise not to make fun of your little love note to LSU. Teach us!"

I'm not a teacher, and have neither the desire nor the patience to attempt to rescue someone such as yourself who has proven to be interested only in provoking and insulting others. I can understand that, though, and fully acknowledge your right to write what you wish to write on this thread.

I DO, though, enjoy reading the posts from those of you who try so earnestly to be so much more than they really are. For example, the first sentence of the quote that I included above seems to attempt to paint me as being pompous, while it actually shows that you really don't understand the relationship between "cerebral" and "Zen", two concepts that I never remotely referenced. You try to insult me, but in reality you show yourself to be ignorant. And of a topic I never even mentioned. How sad for you.

You asked that I "teach", so I guess my first lesson would be to let you know that Zen deals with the discovery of a person's own true nature and his or her inherent wisdom. Cerebral thought is an angle of thinking that has to do with the intellect rather than intuitive thinking. The two concepts are not entirely mutually exclusive, but in your attempt to scold me you merely showed yourself to be rather silly. But I would assume that, by this point in your life, you are consummately familiar with being shown to be silly.

None of this has anything, really, to do with Josh McNeil or UT football, but that is what happens to many of the threads in this site once the anti's start their sardonic commentary. Sorry for the digression, Vols fans. tn geoff asked me to "teach", and God knows he's shown himself to need more education.

If you "stay the course", geoff, you'll die an idiot.

Posted by tngeoff on March 2, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

goldengate.

Thank you though for your lesson on zen. One school of thought presents that in order to ever have any hope of attaining any zen like state that one must first have the cerebral ability to grasp such a concept. Actually, they are completely compatible and one can never have one without the other.

I guess I was in error in concluding your opening post to LSU was "silly." It must have deeper meaning than I saw as I read it. Thank you again.

Posted by tngeoff on March 2, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Examples of why I thought you were here to teach, but certainly not silly:

"No, no, no, vol-in-lsu-land... it's ALL Fulmer's fault. FOOLmore (I feel I must appease the anti-Fulmer crowd) worked tirelessly, as Majors' assistant, to get Majors' hooked on the sauce (Fulmer mixed the booze with orange koolaid), act a fool on his postgame show, make enemies within the "inner circle", etc. It wasn't Johnny, it was Phil.

"Then Fulmer put the mojo on Dickey by using his SuperDuper KrispyKreme Fritters, and once he gained total mind-control, had Dickey oust Majors.

You probably don't know this, but Fulmer is also responsible for Jimmy Carter's failed presidency, the Bhopal, India, chemical disaster, Chernobyl, AND the rise to popularity of Michael Bolton."
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"Good to see you have recovered from having been bitchslapped by the coach.

You didn't even get past the headline without misspelling a word. Should the football coach write another column demanding that you be fired for not fulfilling the duties of a real editor?

If Fulmer must endure your criticism as to his leadership, at least he can rest assured that his guest column provides strong evidence that he does a better job of writing than you would do at coaching!"

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on March 2, 2008 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Goldengate.

Thanks for being in my camp, but I'm truly resolved to put the posters on this site in perspective and and coexist.

I have no idea what station in life most of these fellows occupy. Some may be high level management in high profile positions, and some may be 7-11 night clerks. We all participate with a certain level of "cover" behind our keyboards.

I will say this though; locker room banter has its place, but without a measure of common sense it goes too far. Those who routinely use it expose their mental midgetry. As cute as "pound the fritter" was the first time I read it and all the other variations (ie pound the glazed, pound the cream filled etc), it became boarish after the 500th posting, and ignorant after the 1000th.

If I could just get SOME of these guys to make their (valid) arguments without resorting to Sesame Street insults I'd be a happy camper.

Posted by tngeoff on March 2, 2008 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess I'm doomed to die an idiot.

http://fitnessmanagement.com/articles...

http://www.turtletrack.org/Issues03/C...

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on March 2, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Geoff.

Nobody was referring to you. I've actually been overall impressed at your restraint in casting fat jokes at Fulmer.

No need to get defensive, you have nothing to prove here.

Posted by tngeoff on March 2, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vol_in_lsu_land.

Thank you, but I was referring to the poster who professes that "if I stay the course I will die an idiot." I am glad that you have seen that I refrain from that. Keep the Faith!

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on March 2, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Want to know something though?

After reading the page regarding obesity, diabetes, and sedentary lifestyle, I'm actually very, very taken aback that you, someone who proactively campaigns toward the prevention of such health issues, would "participate" in the locker room banter with people who so freely make fun of them. It would seem that your credibility is called into question.

Do you REALLY CARE about the issue of obesity?

My son is juvenile diabetic, which of course has no relation to weight or lifestyle. I, however, at one time got to the weight of 230 lbs at the age of 35. I am five foot eight, and smallish framed. I was, indeed, obese.

I have altered my lifestyle away from eating out so much and becoming more active. I now weigh 175 lbs and am at a close to ideal weight. It took a year to get to this point, or at least close to it.

I do not think obesity is a laughing matter any more than a stroke, mental retardation, or cancer. It is a health issue that is sometimes genetic in certain factors. I have no idea the stuggles that Phil Fulmer must endure, especially at his age.

At some point in my life, I stopped making fun of people for their differences. I think it was after high school. And yes, I do think I'm a better person than someone who does.

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on March 2, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The above post only asks you why you do not speak out against these jerks who rant on about Fulmer's size. I think you know that you should speak out against them too, but I think you sacrifice yourself because you agree with them on the Vol/Fulmer issue. Man up and tell these people what they are doing is WRONG.

Posted by tngeoff on March 2, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vol_in_lsu_land.

Precisely one of the reasons I NEVER make those comments.

http://fitcommerce.com/Blueprint/Page...

Posted by tngeoff on March 2, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have more than challenged my own industry, many times to my professional detriment. I don't care. I challenge the truth that others present when it is not really the truth...only what they want others to see and believe as the truth. If we don't challenge the false truth, the real truth becomes a lie and whatever one wishes to be the truth takes its place. Once accepted, it begins to seed. Once it seeds, it grows more rapidly.

http://fitcommerce.com/Blueprint/Page...

Posted by tngeoff on March 2, 2008 at 4:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vol_in_lsu_land.

Last point on that subject. Congratulations on your personal accomplishment. You may not know it, but when someone like you does what you did you inspire others. Some you will know about...others you will not...but they will say, "Wow! It can be done!" Also, sorry about your Sons Type I Diabetes. Tough thing.

Posted by tngeoff on March 2, 2008 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way...my nickname is Thunder and "out" is short for "outta' here." So, when I say, "Thunder out." That means I'm leaving now. Now, Thunder out!

Posted by TommyJack on March 2, 2008 at 4:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

formerlyfatVol_in_lsu: What is this, Oprah?
Sheesh, man. Got any chips?

Posted by pdhuff on March 2, 2008 at 5 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ, news at ten.

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on March 2, 2008 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hah.

No, not Oprah. But honestly, some of you dudes could learn a thing or two about human respect from watching an episode ot two. Thankfully, I never had to watch TV shows to learn how to be decent.

What happened today ladies, was the hen party cancelled? Sure was quiet in here today.

Posted by orangebloodgmc on March 3, 2008 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So, with McNeil out, and I understand Michael Frogg to be a graduating senior, does that mean Cody Pope will get most of the reps at center this spring? Wonder who else they might look at there?

Posted by sjt18 on March 3, 2008 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A guy that usually has good inside info says that a walk-on, one of the Sullins bros, is pretty good. Probably better than Pope.

He didn't express confidence that Pope would ever be a good player.

If we were in the middle of the season, you'd probably see Parker slide over.

Sounds like a really good opportunity for Myers and Sawtelle... two guys we haven't heard from yet but who were highly recruited out of HS/prep.

Posted by orangebloodgmc on March 3, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, for back-up centers, like the question of the hemi under the hood, I guess we "bout to find out."

Posted by miamiVOL on March 8, 2008 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

this guy is an all-american candidate and my 3rd cousin DO IT CUZ