Posted by BigOrangeVol29 on January 4, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is getting ridiculous. Leaving UT for Duke? Wow, he must be getting a really big raise. Well, if we wanted a new staff, we're getting it. I can't understand why Fulmer isn't doing more to retain some of these guys.

Posted by imw8n4u on January 4, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Man - is he taking the Neyland Thompson complex with him too?

Posted by TommyJack on January 4, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

kids and ladies into the lifeboats! Stay the course.

Posted by Hunter on January 4, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just FYI, this si the guy that carries Fulmer's headset wires and clipboard around behind him the whole game. He's literally Fulmer's right hand man. What gives????

Posted by auttat on January 4, 2008 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think things are completely off course. Am I wrong, or didn't mass people want a change in the staff? Hello!!

Guess this guy got tired of holding Fulmer's head phones cord.

Posted by jobrando on January 4, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why could Phil not become an assistant AD and get a new head coach and really start over.

Posted by juicetke on January 4, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe fulmer secretly wanted to clean house as much as some of the fans do. I hate to lose all these people at once because that is a lot of pressure and work to fill this many spots but I am not sure it all that bad. Too bad it couldn't be in the summer so it wouldn't effect recruiting. Dead period or not it will effect recruiting. There is still one defensive staff member that remains that probably shouldn't. I am sure everyone knows who I am talking about. His name ryhmes with Shade.

Posted by tngeoff on January 4, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ayyyyyyyy maties! Grab everythin' ya' can!

Posted by tigervol9802 on January 4, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey, everyone wanted change....you got it!

Posted by scttmcdonald on January 4, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Classic pessimistic's outlook. Change is good, I tell ya!

Posted by jobrando on January 4, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

has Chavis been interviewing

Posted by Singaporehillbilly on January 4, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey all you chicken littles, I thought you wanted change. I recall many comments that nobody on the staff was worth keeping and now the "sky is falling". In fact I recall many wanting a certain coach out of Oklahoma. This just in, many in OK would gladly send him here.

I better go and eat my bowl of rice before it gets cold.

Posted by Ohiovol16 on January 4, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dang you don't know how much I enjoyed seeing Geralds face every ball game! LOL. For some reason I don't think he will be getting the same TV exposure at Duke.

I know Cutcliff wants to be a head coach and all but what are these other guys thinking.

Posted by scttmcdonald on January 4, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Cignetti was on campus yesterday???

http://www.timesfreepress.com/absolut...

Posted by volsrock54 on January 4, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bye!

Posted by sjt18 on January 4, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is truly incredible... all some people talked about 2 months ago was how much there needed to be sweeping change... now they proclaim that the world is ending when change starts happening.

Pretty pathetic when you have to be that inconsistent and void of integrity to find something to complain about.

Posted by voldude on January 4, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I met Gerald a bunch of times at camps and practices. Good guy. The black Fulmer. lol. I heard he's got a girlfriend out there.

Posted by jh43 on January 4, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

With all the upheaval, it just seems like the perfect time to have a completely new start. The damage done to recruiting and all the other distractions will have a ripple effect for awhile.

Even tho Coach Fulmer is a nice guy, it is hard to imagine him ever turning anyone loose to really change our offense into something that is not as predictable as the sun coming up.

Posted by DCSOvol on January 4, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I love it. The big fat sorry one is watching a good man take most of his help with him. How does it feel, fat boy? Kinda like when you slid that stiletto in Johnny's back? I hate Fulmer and always will for what he did to his coaching mentor while he was in the hospital from a heart attack. They dont make em any sorrier than CPF. I love the Vols, but the sooner fat boy is gone, the better.

Posted by D_in_Iraq on January 4, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Repost from my previous comments in another article:

TDTN, et al.... WE GET IT.... You hate Phil Fulmer....! So please write something new (no matter positive or negative; and in your case always negative) about the Vols or the articles in hand. But please, if you are truly a Vol Fan, leave the Fat Jokes and Name Calling to those fans from other Universities. It makes everyone look bad, much like those Alabama Fans that wear the Tide Detergent Boxes or Rolls of toilet paper on their heads... Most could care less if you write negative, yet constructive comments about the program... It's the name calling that makes you look like the average Tide Fan... Unless....

As I have always stated, 99.9% of the fans on this site realize that improvement can be made in many areas within the football program, just like improvement that many fans believe can be made in their respective Football programs.... People tend to agree or disagree with constructive comments without the Elementary School comments about someone’s weight, eating habits, et al… So, be man/women enough to stop… Especially for the sake of us that only have limited time to read the comments seeking info on players, recruits, etc... Thanks, and I know as a true Vol Fan you can provide proper dialogue without the antics...

Posted by VOLstuckINky on January 4, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Cutt is no loss from an OC stanpoint ... only loss of a QB coach.

The play calling in the Outshack bowl was awful.

Gulmer is leaving because he was slowly morphing into Fulmer. No lose there either.

Posted by bustervols on January 4, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why do we burden ourselves with the unknown? Why?
The next micro-second is your future, don't waste your time on things you cannot control. Read a book or better yet,do your job, you worthless slacker. For what it's worth, the football season is over, it's over dude. Now would be a good time to work off that gut that has emerged from within. Let it go, man, find your place in the world. The REAL world. Then come back around the O & W game. We'll talk then, sport. Peace.

Posted by DCSOvol on January 4, 2008 at 11:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I refuse to write anything new until the big fat backstabber is gone. FIRE FULMER NOW. FIRE FULMER NOW. FIRE FULMER NOW.

Posted by DCSOvol on January 4, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)

I think the reason people are getting worried is that Phil is not making the sweeping changes. No, its more like women and children first to the lifeboats. These guys are leaving on their own. In droves. Something smells, and I think its that 4 week old washed Christmas Sprinkle Krispy Kreme forgotted in Phil's jacket pocket.

Posted by spam247buster on January 4, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DCSOVol is right. It was simply awful that Fulmer won those games so convincingly when Johnny was in the hospital.

Posted by sbcheek on January 4, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Director of High School Relations" is one of them most important positions on the football staff. Remember when Josh McNeil had a little trouble a while back with the police at his apartment? (link here)http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/nov...

The first person he called was Harrison who came to McNeil's apartment and coaxed him out of the building for the police. Yup, every good college football program needs a good damage control guy.

Posted by Ironcity on January 4, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Who Cares. I heard one of the bathroom attendents at the football complex was leaving also. Really does this guy truely do anything?

Posted by DCSOvol on January 4, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nah, just disgusting how he stuck it in a sick man's back.

Posted by jobrando on January 4, 2008 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe Phil is retiring and all his help knows it. If Chavis leaves then Phil retires to an Assistant AD

Posted by spam247buster on January 4, 2008 at 12:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Majors was going to be fired for losing to South Carolina, Arkansas, and (of course) Alabama that season (in addition to being too drunk to show up at QB Club speaking engagements, which didn't win him points with the big $$$ donors).
Fulmer merely accepted an offer for his dream job that he EARNED by spanking Florida and Georgia when he got his chance. I can't fault him for that, but then I'm a reasonable person.

Posted by DenverVol on January 4, 2008 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Come on, is it me? Or did you naysayer's kill too many brain cells over the holidays. If you go from Director of High School Relations to Director of Football Relations, isn't that a promotion? Why would the guy want to spend another year carrying a clipboard for CPF if he was offered a promotion at Duke? Good for you Mr. Harrison!

Posted by D_in_Iraq on January 4, 2008 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

spam247buster,

Exactly! I happened to be at the South Carolina Game when some of the bigger Alum were fed up! I had to sit and listen to USC Fans mock UT's loss to them and Arkansas, who by the way had just lost to the Citadel, yep, the Citadel a couple of weeks prior...

Fulmer didn't get Johnny fired; Johnny got Johnny fired! And yes, his so-called inability to handle his beverages got him in hot water also!

Posted by VolnDothan on January 4, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Take your pick:

1. Worry. A lot of football personnel are leaving a major D1 school to go to Duke!?! Why doesn't Fulmer MAKE changes personnel instead of ALLOWING THEM to make changes?

2.Don't worry. D1 ball is a transiant business. People move around all the time. It's the nature of the beast.

Posted by sjt18 on January 4, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DSCOvol, Let it die. CPF didn't fire JM. Majors gave UT good cause that had absolutely NOTHING to do with CPF stabbing him in the back. Do you have direct evidence that Fulmer somehow manipulated that situation?

The power brokers... which did not include a lowly OC that had never won anything much less a NC at Pitt... decided to get rid of Majors... You know one of the most storied men in the history of UT football...

If the rumor that he used racial slurs in a lockeroom and had a drinking problem are true... then CPF and UT have shown alot of character in not exposing the guy.

Do you really, really think CPF was the driving force behind getting the guy fired? "IF" CPF or any other coach had witnessed JM say or do things... should they have lied to cover it up or tell the truth regardless?

Posted by sjt18 on January 4, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe... just maybe... people once in awhile follow guys they like to new jobs... without it having any particularly bad reflection on the previous employer...

Posted by raleighncvolfan on January 4, 2008 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Big loss for Fulmer. He is going to look twice as big w/o G. Harrison standing next to him on the sidelines.

Posted by bugman on January 4, 2008 at 12:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think this shows the discontent with the programs direction whether they say so publicly or not.

Posted by uwishuwereassmartasme on January 4, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TouchdownTN and DSCOvol

just a question for both of you.

Are you guys as ugly as you are dumb?

Of course that would be difficult unless you are the elephant man...

Posted by FWBVol on January 4, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Some of you were saying there were too many distractions and there was no way we would beat Wisconsin in the Outback Bowl. You were WRONG!!! These departures do not mark the end to life and civilazation as we know it...OK, maybe life as we know it as Tennessee fans is ending as so many coaches are leaving, but as others have pointed out, many of you wanted to the changes.

There is still more than a month before national signing day, and, I believe, Phillip Fulmer is being prudent in taking his time to get the right coaches on staff. NOBODY more than CPF understands the importance of these hires.

If you don't think he doesn't feel the heat and pressure associated with these hires, you're crazy.

With talk radio and the internet fans have a voice they've never had in any previous generation. On top of that, 24 hour sports channels ad to the frenzy generated by talk shows and the internet. Everyone is trying to get a story and beat the other guy.

Newspapers have always wanted to beat the competition for a story, but now that competition is increased multiple times over.

I wonder if the General would have been given a break during some of his slack years.

Would many of you who are complaining about CPF stabbing Johnny in the back, given Johnny a second chance after the Vols started 0-6 in 1988?

Just some thoughts for people to chew on for a while.

Posted by Pullingguard on January 4, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Makes on wonder... Why would Harrison leave UT for Duke? Promotion, more Money, Bigger Job.. Well Cutcliffe has about 5/6 years at Duke regardless for they don't expect championships, only a competitive team that wins 4/5 games every year.. Then if Cutcliffe wins 5/6 games year he could be there at retirement... Good scheduling outside the ACC will provide them a decent record every year. Also Duke must have put some Money into Football.

Posted by newtonrail on January 4, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you perpetuate the lies and innuendoes about Majors long enough, some people take them as truth. Sad but true. Fulmer's behind the back with Johnson at Bank of Sparta had more to do with what happened to JM than anything. As far as this article, Harrison will be missed. He is the one person that can get away with holding Fulmer back on sidelines. He's there for more than holding equipment. He's also the one answering calls to all the night spots our Saturday's Heroes go to and get in trouble.

Posted by bullfrog07 on January 4, 2008 at 12:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Guys guys this guy is replaceable. He only got in at UT due to his childhood best friend and father. His childhood best friend is Big Albert Haynesworth. Harrison's father from what I understand kinda took care of Big A as a youth. Harrison is from South Carolina. He'll be able to be re-placed.

Posted by uwishuwereassmartasme on January 4, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

newtonrail

so, we shouldn't perpetuate the lies and innuendos about Majors, but its o.k for you to perpetuate the lies and innuendos about Fulmer. Double standards are great, aren't they?

Posted by vanderbilt_sucks on January 4, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cutcliffe I hope you enjoy Duke and the ACC because you will never coach in Knoxville or the SEC again. Good at Duke and enjoy the 1 maybe two win seasons that go with the job. When this job is over you will be lucky to coach high school football.

Posted by pearlific on January 4, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

why do you people worry so much about assistant coaches? there are plenty of people out there we can get to replace these guys! fulmer is the main closer on recruits. ut won before these other guys and will afterwards.

Posted by D_in_Iraq on January 4, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Newtonrail,

Ok, let's say that the drinking "lies" are not true despite what many know as fact. Let's say that Major's inability to show up at functions like the Big Orange function in Clarksville in the early 80's was fabricated, although a couple hundred folks would say different...

The fact is that we were beaten by lesser teams in Arkasas, Alabama, and South Carolina while averaging 18 points per game upon Majors return... UT under Fulmer started Undeafeated with wins against Florida, LSU, and Georgia while averaging 33 points a game.

Oh, and with regards to any meeting in Sparta, well, Johnny was probably well on his way out the door at that juncture. I don't know of the meeting, but if Johnny won the games he was supposed to, UT would have gone undefeated and who knows where. Instead, Fulmer regained the helm and won ALL, yes ALL of the remainder of games to include a thrashing of Boston College that was ranked higher then the Vols (due to those 3 Major Losses in Conference) in the Hall of Fame Bowl.

Just a thought, and yes, there are always 2 sides to a story...

Posted by tennisvol on January 4, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All assistants apparently getting on the van leaving K town.

Posted by bowerst on January 4, 2008 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Boy, I sure do wish UT would go to that new spread offense everybody's talking about. We can't keep up with Florida if we don't ever try something new.

Hey, wait a minute… Gosh darn it!! Why are we lined up in a different formation? Don't we ever throw the dern football no more? Heck, I didn't think we had to change everything! I want my Cutcliffe back!

Waaaahhhh!

Posted by Rok_Etop on January 4, 2008 at 1:10 p.m.

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Posted by dwyvols on January 4, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We need to find the best high school relations person in the country and pay them a 7 figure salary with their own country music station talk show. What a terrible deal to lose a HSR person. I guess it's a slow news day at the daily planet.

Posted by 4ss on January 4, 2008 at 1:14 p.m.

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Posted by KnoxVol_in_TX on January 4, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just get Larry Slade outta there. He's the worst of 'em all. Will somebody please smack Fulmer in the mouth with this breaking news...

Slade SUCKS!!!

Posted by imw8n4u on January 4, 2008 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

uncalled for Rok_Etop!

Posted by pabashia on January 4, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Another rat jumping ship. This is more telling that it appears.

Posted by thesavageorange on January 4, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

These are all promotions for the ones leaving not lateral moves.I think this can be a change of culture for Tennessee , and I'm all for it personally.Would anyone be happy if the guys leaving got promoted to the same positions at UT as they are at Duke?Cut needs people he knows to help atleast stabalize maybe the worst program in the country.Cautiously optimistic.

Posted by Brama on January 4, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Knox Vol, you don't know anthing about playing DB! Do you remember when Kevin Ramsey Was here?. It seems that all these people are leaving when the getting is still good. Maybe they see the handwriting on the wall for the future.

Posted by KnoxVol_in_TX on January 4, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I cant agree with that. Besides Larry Salde is the secondary coach, no? He coaches positions throughout the secondary, correct? That would include the corners and safeties.

In that sense, Larry Slade is terrible. We have incredible talent at those positions, but they are coached not to even spy the ball. They are hardly ever aware of when and where the QB is throwing the ball. They just play the receiver, and dont make plays on the ball.

Of course, this isnt a universal statement. Berry has consistently spyed the QB, and Wardlow was backpeddling when he made the int against Wisc. Had he not been, that would've been six for sure.

Dont you realize that our safeties and corners hardly ever make it in the NFL and when they do, well, Dwayne Goodrich ring a bell.

Posted by Oenoboy on January 4, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is such a non-story unless you are a card carrying member of the Legion of Miserables (that many of you are) who look for any reason to spew your blindly negative crap.

How do you know this isn’t about this guy not being qualified for a higher payer position at UT but fine for the position at Duke? Maybe Fulmer pushed him to take the job or maybe he just wanted to be closer to home.

All of you Miserables have been preaching change and now that it is happening, you’re bitching about it. You call yourselves fans but everything you post on here displays complete nonsupport of the program. It would be one thing if you would balance your negativity with some positive posts but you don’t.

Rok_Etop, you are the epitome of offensive. Crawl back to the cesspool you emerged from and think before you speak ill of those you don’t know.

The image you guys portray as supposed UT fans is an embarrassment to the other 99% of Vol fans. It's ok not to be happy with coaches and certain situations but to spew the hate and low class insults you guys do is classless beyond measure.

Posted by Smokey57 on January 4, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Touchdown,
You come up with the cutest little names. Do you still suck your thumb?

Posted by TouchdownTN on January 4, 2008 at 11:18 a.m.
Dukie's Head Coach = Buttcliffe
Pukie Lukie too.

Got a nice ring to it.

Posted by james on January 4, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A lot of crybaby fans wanted a change in the guard and now you're complaining because there is a changing of the guard. Go figure. Sounds like the offense is getting what it needs and maybe this change will help recuiting. I don't know much about his job or him but it doesn't sound like a reason for concern.

Posted by D_in_Iraq on January 4, 2008 at 2:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

KnoxVol_in_TX,

Not sure why you would make the comment

"Dont you realize that our safeties and corners hardly ever make it in the NFL and when they do, well, Dwayne Goodrich ring a bell"....

Last I looked several NFL Teams have UT DB's on their rosters, and at least 4 are starting in the NFL. Names that come to mind of the top of my head are Jason Allen, Jonothon Wade, Deon Grant, Rashad Baker, Jabari Greer, Gibril Wilson....

And I assume some are blamming Phil Fulmer for Dwayne Goodrich's drinking/driving/manslaughter charge... Hell, why not, some on here blame Phil for everything else... Truly a shame...

Posted by volcop on January 4, 2008 at 2:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why all the talk about sinking ships and lifeboats? Don't worry you all there will be UT football next fall. On opening day 2008 Neyland stadium will be covered in orange and there will be tailgating in the parking lots!

Posted by BigOrangeJeff on January 4, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I love it. The geniuses can't even follow through on their own promises. Check this out:

"Posted by DCSOvol on January 4, 2008 at 11:55 a.m.
I refuse to write anything new until the big fat backstabber is gone. FIRE FULMER NOW. FIRE FULMER NOW. FIRE FULMER NOW."

Wait for it... Wait for it... Here it is, the very next post:

"Posted by DCSOvol on January 4, 2008 at noon
I think the reason people are getting worried is that Phil is not making the sweeping changes. No, its more like women and children first to the lifeboats. These guys are leaving on their own. In droves. Something smells, and I think its that 4 week old washed Christmas Sprinkle Krispy Kreme forgotted [sic] in Phil's jacket pocket."

The Haters: So stupid, they think Medicine Hat is a cure for head lice.

Posted by pdhuff on January 4, 2008 at 3:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Employees come, employees go. Some things stay the same. 65K to leave, huh.

Posted by Greg18 on January 4, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This reminds me of when Majors was here. At least he fired his assistants, they didn't run off to lesser programs. Also, we will find out if Phil can do once what Majors made a tradition. Replace half your staff in a year with better coaches (in most cases)

Posted by tngeoff on January 4, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

D_in_Iraq and spam247buster,

Quite the Majors experts. Paging Dr. Mitty. Dr. Mitty, please report to surgery.

Posted by skyhawk836 on January 4, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by Greg18 on January 4, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This reminds me of when Majors was here. At least he fired his assistants, they didn't run off to lesser programs. Also, we will find out if Phil can do once what Majors made a tradition. Replace half your staff in a year with better coaches (in most cases)
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So having to fire people that you have hired is better than other schools coming after people you have hired?

From your post I would surmise that Fulmer hires better people than Majors.

BTW, I supported both coaches, just trying to ascertain the relevance of the post.

Posted by utchris2003 on January 4, 2008 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Who really cares that this guy is leaving? Besides Taylor and Harrison, the only people that are leaving are the ones that came in with Cut. Losing Harrison is not a big loss. All he ever was, is, and would have continued to be at UT was Fulmer's personal assistant (aka. his do boy). This is not a slight against the guy, but that is really what he was. Basically he was a glorified graduate assistant.

Posted by pdhuff on January 4, 2008 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

skyhawk836 - you, sir, are a good man if you can always ascertain the relevance of posts. A book deal should come your way soon. The only thing surer is that Cutcliff and his new coaches will feel no heat at Dook for 3-4 years. Good post.

Posted by grvol on January 4, 2008 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't let the door hit you in the a....

Posted by Brama on January 4, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Knox Vol, The NFl Teaches the same technique that UT does and look at all the players that have played in the NFl (Ie Andre Lott, Rashad Baker),Average Players in college playing several yrs in the NFl. UT's system leaves the DB's On an Island and they pass rush everybody else. We never thought Lovie Smith was any good and now look what he has done since he left. It's the system not the DB Coaches.

Posted by thesavageorange on January 4, 2008 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Not trying to be politically correct , but Slade is the only african american on this coaching staff.CPF needs to look at a couple of AA's as position coaches.Not saying you hire someone for PR, but I'm sure there are some very good ones out there.Anyone have any names that come to mind?

Posted by skyhawk836 on January 4, 2008 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by pdhuff on January 4, 2008 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

skyhawk836 - you, sir, are a good man if you can always ascertain the relevance of posts. A book deal should come your way soon. The only thing surer is that Cutcliff and his new coaches will feel no heat at Dook for 3-4 years. Good post.
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Thanks. I think.

Savage- agree.

I wonder if Kacy Rodgers has ever shown any interest in coming home? D-Line coach with the Cowboys.
Was Asst. Head Coach at MTSU for a while, and had hired on at Arkansas in the same position when Parcells hired him in his first year at Dallas.

Posted by VOLstuckINky on January 4, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oenoboy ... if you want to be a koolaid addict, its your business.

If you think our beloved Cutt taking 1/2 the staff with him to Duke is a non story, you've had your 2 orange glasses already today.

Last year's recruiting was par at best. We don't get some name brand coaches very soon .. you'r looking at 2 back to back par to sub par classes.

That equals 6 wins down the road in the SEC.

Drink up.

Posted by sjt18 on January 4, 2008 at 4:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That isn't politically correct... it is smart, fair, and reasonable. There are many, many black coaches fully capable of performing at the highest level. CPF considered one of them for OC.

Slade just doesn't seem to be one of those people. It seems the game really has past him by.

Posted by sjt18 on January 4, 2008 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VOLstuckINky

"Last year's recruiting was par at best."

Huh? Last year's class was probably CPF's best and one of the best in the nation. It was rated that way and the play of the Fr this year affirms it... and several of the better prospects were RS'd: Donald, Paige, Sawtelle, Coleman, Langley.

The position coaches are a story... but this guy?

Posted by vol4jesus on January 4, 2008 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rokeetop that was poor taste and irresponsible. You've taken poor posting to a new low. Its no longer enuf to bash the Head coach, but now we bash the daughter. I'm sure it would be ok if someone did the same to your daughter.....right? Too many happy people out there spewing hatred towards people they don't even know personally. No tuchdntn/wills I'm not referencing you at the moment even if the shoe fits.

Posted by invisiblekid on January 4, 2008 at 4:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I heard that the foundations at Neyland trembled upon hearing this news. Glad to see that the Roper deal was finalized with Duke, otherwise I was going to suggest that Fulmer go ahead and show him the door.

Posted by thesavageorange on January 4, 2008 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

skyhawk836 , good name in Rodgers , but boy is it hard to drag someone out of the center of the football universe.

Posted by skyhawk836 on January 4, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by thesavageorange on January 4, 2008 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

skyhawk836 , good name in Rodgers , but boy is it hard to drag someone out of the center of the football universe.
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Yeah, but Momma lives in Humboldt.

Posted by KnoxVol_in_TX on January 4, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brama and D in Iraq: you have your points. Still, I recognize players throughout college that dont play like they are just chasing the receiver down and flailing their arms about.

I guess my frustration has boiled over from a lackluster year in the forced turnover dept.

Posted by thesavageorange on January 4, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

skyhawk836 , Ahh. you gotta love mommas!

Posted by eaglentn2002 on January 4, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Could timing be any worse to lose all these coaches? I wanted some change also but not in the middle of recruiting. Coach Cut pretty much used us then left us high and dry. So much for loyalty Fulmer your right hand man is jumping ship also. This program will benefit in the long run! It's just bad timing!

Posted by skyhawk836 on January 4, 2008 at 4:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by eaglentn2002 on January 4, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Could timing be any worse to lose all these coaches? I wanted some change also but not in the middle of recruiting. Coach Cut pretty much used us then left us high and dry. So much for loyalty Fulmer your right hand man is jumping ship also. This program will benefit in the long run! It's just bad timing!

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Come on, now.
No one can help when a job opens up. In the coaching world, this is the busy time for movement.
Cut helped tremendously in reestablishing offensive work ethic and discipline.

Posted by britt on January 4, 2008 at 6:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

what if we got Quarles for this spot. It would be an easy to get him in the system and see how he reacts to college

Posted by waterskier3 on January 4, 2008 at 7:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

we all new coach cut would be here for a short stint.... the two coaches going with him is ok but didn't know this guy and how long he's been part of ut..... better acd school, better pay why not go....

UT better get this right because they are behind on recruits and fat boy needs all the help he can get........ he may win 10 games but let him get blown out to fla, ala, aub or ga next year like 2007 and the heat will continue... no excuse for losing like that... none.......

Posted by west_tn_volfan on January 4, 2008 at 8:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am not surprised by these guys leaving. Football,for fans, is about loyalty to your team but for coaches, its a business. They want to move up and a coordinator job is a step in that direction. Also, these guys don't know who the next OC is going to be so they don't know if they could work well with him or not which means their days at UT could have been numbered any way. On the other hand, they know they have a good relationship with coach Cut so this could be their safest move. They have families and long term security to look out for. It really shouldn't matter anyway. There are so many good position coaches looking for an opportunity to move up,that they should be easily replaced.

Posted by TNPilgrim on January 4, 2008 at 9:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Could it be that Cutcliff has been the defacto head coach for the past two years?

Posted by ThaiVolFan on January 4, 2008 at 9:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brit
I think Quarles is the right man for the job as well. It would be a great way to get him on staff at UT and keep him close to the High School ranks where has has been so dominant throughout the years. He can relate to the young players well and get them into an orange jersey, all the while working his way up the coaches ladder at UT.

Posted by BleedsOrangeinMO on January 4, 2008 at 10:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

YES! YES! YES! Let's get Quarles on staff. He knows what high school athletes want and knows the great high school players. He can certainly "hang around" with the offense people and provided input and or learn. This should be a "no brainer".

Posted by BleedsOrangeinMO on January 4, 2008 at 10:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Or he could take Luke's job as recruiting coordinator.

Posted by voldude on January 4, 2008 at 11:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

coaches need to do what's best for them and their families. If Harrison is getting a promotion/raise, has a girlfriend there and can be closer to family in SC (I didn't know that part) then you can't blame the guy. If Roper and Luke are getting promotions and staying with their original mentor you can't blame them. What would any of you do in their shoes?

Posted by newtonrail on January 5, 2008 at 1:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by D_in_Iraq on January 4, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Newtonrail,

Ok, let's say that the drinking "lies" are not true despite what many know as fact. Let's say that Major's inability to show up at functions like the Big Orange function in Clarksville in the early 80's was fabricated, although a couple hundred folks would say different...

The fact is that we were beaten by lesser teams in Arkansas, Alabama, and South Carolina while averaging 18 points per game upon Majors return... UT under Fulmer started Undefeated with wins against Florida, LSU, and Georgia while averaging 33 points a game.

Oh, and with regards to any meeting in Sparta, well, Johnny was probably well on his way out the door at that juncture. I don't know of the meeting, but if Johnny won the games he was supposed to, UT would have gone undefeated and who knows where. Instead, Fulmer regained the helm and won ALL, yes ALL of the remainder of games to include a thrashing of Boston College that was ranked higher then the Vols (due to those 3 Major Losses in Conference) in the Hall of Fame Bowl.

Just a thought, and yes, there are always 2 sides to a story...

Yes, Iraq, there are two sides. There are some of us were pretty close to the situation, and it ticks me off to the lies and innuendo repeated by people who don't or can't know the facts. Mostly, you talked about how 1992 played out when I agree John should have stayed home the entire season. For those who say why can I blast Fulmer and you not blast Majors. Just when did I degrade Fulmer? There are plenty on this board who do, BUT I "Ain't" one of them kids. I have alluded to this past, which should be buried and forgotten by now, but some of you won't let it go. As Far as the Fire Fulmer bandwagon, you have seen zero posts from yours truly. Iraq, I don't know what your screen name means, but if you or one of you relatives is serving in Iraq, you have my appreciation and prayers. Also thanks for taking out the gentleman degrading Coach Slade and the 9 or 10 DB's we still have in the League.

Posted by oldorange on January 5, 2008 at 6:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Young coaches are going to move. The good thing is that Fulmer had the young men on his staff others wanted. These guys may see UT again. Fulmr has guys all over the country.

Posted by surlyguy on January 5, 2008 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Duke = UT Durham

Posted by dwolfcreek on January 5, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

cut leaving , back to black and white uniforms .

Posted by dash727 on January 5, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Apparently, dcsovol is another pitiful bitter ole man that appears to have a dependency problem. Rumor has it touchdowntn was seen crawling out of your trailer with his britches on backwards. Since it is the weekend maybe you will sober up by Monday in time to collect your foodstamps. Did you steal the computer or get it at the pawn shop? Go Vols, keep winning and send the incestuous bama lovers over the edge!

Posted by D_in_Iraq on January 5, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Newtonrail,

Thanks for your candid comments, but I don't believe I ever stated you were one of the folks degrading Fulmer, for those folks stand out on their own. I know of a couple of these posters, and know that they also knew/or played for Coach Majors. Did they know his personal life like yourself, maybe not, but they do have some additional background to speak of, and some of it might not be popular with folks like yourself. Maybe, just maybe, they have some different input to provide that is not necessarily lies, and what they personally witnessed or knew of first hand. Just a thought.

Personally, I guess I should have kept my comments to myself, but when some of the other posters on this board continues to degrade Fulmer, his Assistants, and even Fulmers Family... along with making comments about how Fulmer was the mastermind behind firing Majors, I felt compelled to comment. I will always believe Johnny was responsible for his own demise, not Phil Fulmer the supposed Mastermind...

As for my service, 20+ years, with 2 tours to Iraq. Thanks for the nice comments and support to the Military. I am getting old, fat, and white haired now, but it's truly amazing what our young kids accomplish now-a-days just like our parents, grandparents et al before them! They do us all proud.

Since we are being at least somewhat civil, and just a tidbit off the subject... Not sure folks know, but there are several Vol/SEC Athletes serving in the Armed Forces on Active Duty. Matter or fact, there is a Running Back that was all SEC at Vandy named Frank Mordica (not sure if anyone remembers him, but All SEC in the 70's I believe), and I bumped into him a few months back. His is a Navy Master Chief serving with the USMC... Guy Still looks like a beast!

Posted by slovog on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh my God ... not the director of high school relations!

Hamilton, lock up Neyland, stop the renovations. In fact, just cancel next season.

How can we possibly go on without our director of high school relations?

Posted by pdhuff on January 5, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good relationships with high school coaches are kinda important. It's amazing how many show up on game day for two passes and a meal ticket at many institutions. All because of a potential stud who's a junior or so.

Posted by tngeoff on January 5, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

D_in_Iraq,

First of all, thank you for your service to our Country. My youngest daughter has served one tour and is likely going back (Camp Annaconda first tour - Military Police). That said, about Coach Majors, you could get many different stories from former players. First and foremost, he was a strict disciplinarian and didn't take any nonsense from anyone. Our program dearly lacks that. Find comments by the late, great (God rest his Soul) Reggie White about Majors. There is actually a thread where Greg Amsler posted info. Read that. There was a story about Eric Berry locally last year that included glowing comments from his Dad about Majors. Just like with Fulmer, there are former players who are and were detractors, same with any Coach. Did Coach Majors make some obvious tactical blunders? No doubt. Still, in the end, no matter how it came about, he got treated like a piece of dirt. Take some time and look up the job he did resurecting a program at Iowa State that was the laughing stock of their Conference. Take a look at the job he did resurecting the program at Pitt, which was a laughing stock. Take a look at what he inherited at Tennessee and look at the physical improvements he brought to the athletic training facilities. Then AFTER that, look at his personal career at Tennessee, Bobby Majors personal career and the late (God rest his Soul) Bill Majors. His family has done more than any other family ever has or ever will for Tennessee football. Not financially, but through a MUCH more significant method. Then say what you may. Did Coach majors drink? WHO CARES. Back in that day, MOST coaches did. Check out many of the Legendary SEC Coaches of days gone by. By the way...I saw a couple of guys bring up his return to Pitt as testimony that he is not a good coach. Pretty much anybody who just experienced the bitter ending to his dream will never be the same again. Look at performance prior to the debacle. And if someone wants to bring up losses to lesser teams, I have a bucket load of links to losses under Fulmer that should never have happened. Just let his saga end and let's get his number retired. Okay REAL NAYAYERS...fire away.

Stay safe Bro'.

Posted by tngeoff on January 5, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way PK. This thread and others is exactly why a good story by someone without fear should revisit this debacle. KNS has all the old stories on file. There you'll have names and people of interest to contact about what REALLY went down. Sadly, I doubt anyone has that much nerve since it would clearly involve still active powerhouse folks who could squash the writer like an insect. That's all I have to say on the matter. Can't help it when others bring out the trash to let its nauseating odor pollute our nostrils again and again.

Posted by DaveVol on January 5, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Though Cut is stealing us blind it is probably best that he goes. While here he was always focused on being head coach again, you could tell in all of his interviews and other statements. With that always trickling down it can't be a good thing for the staff and players overall. I wish him the best at Duke, but I think he is being a bit desperate as he did in taking the Ole Miss job.

Posted by Oenoboy on January 5, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Let it go people. The only coaches Cutt's taking with him are the ones he came here with two seasons ago.

I've never seen such a group of Chicken Littles.

Did anyone see the report that Trooper may be staying on? Check it out...

http://www.newschannel9.com/sports/ta...

I don't know how reliable it is but it sounds like he's considering staying without the OC position.

Come on Troop, stick around for some fun next year and help take our WRs and RBs to the next level!! What does a Co-Offensive Coordinator do anyways? Call half the plays?

Posted by pdhuff on January 5, 2008 at 8:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oenoboy - a Co-cord calls the plays that gets you beat. Or so they will say after the game. The other Co-cord called the ones that worked.