A big final push and we squeak into the top 20 and no harm done. With last year we will be ok if we have a good season in 08 and match it with a recruiting class. Just find me an Al Wilson or a Dale Jones in this class.
Signing day, while crucial is not as important as some make it out to be, I feel. I want a great class like everyone else, but for all the five star players how many are Eric Berry's? Ole Miss got Patrick Willis out of our back yard and now he's the NFL defensive player of the year. Let's sign guys that want to be here. Who wanted that Mallett kid? I don't want to be held hostage by anybody particularly some punk and his a$$hat of a father. Peace.
Recruiting? There's recruiting going on? Who'd have guessed by this reporting...the lack of info is unbelievable. Either Fulmer has shut out the KNS staff for understandable reasons or KNS just doesn't do any primary news gathering on the program in the city that they cover...unbelievable.
So instead of doing some leg work and getting some recruiting info all we get is another lousy poll. Well, I'm not playing.
I think they'll do okay in the end, but it has bothered me to look at the list of the top 100 players on Scout.com and see how we didn't go after these guys.
On the way to church this morning I listened to the Doug Matthews call in show. He said that he does not think we will close with any huge recruits as in years past so this class will be average (may land a couple 4stars.
He also made an intersting point but I was not able to listen to the rest of the show stating that we had our coaching staff but possible changes could still occur. Did anyone happen to listen to his show this morning? I don't know if he was talking about Slade leaving or... last i heard Chavis was going to spend more time than usual with the d-backs due to Slade's health but.....
Rankings by a recruiting bureau mean less to me than rankings at the end of the season. I'm not sure anyone credible has established a correlation between the two.
Could there possibly be a less relevant poll than this one? Ask a bunch of people who obviously could not have any clue how our recruiting is going to end up for their opinion.
OK .. Lets have some fun ... Say IM a 5 star recruit... the advantages of going to UT .. First of all "The SEC", 2nd the big house. 3rd Good education... 3rd playing time (on Def) 4th on TV alot... The reasons why I dont want to go. 1st,,, Is the same coach going to be there in 2 years? they have been talking about getting rid of him for 4 years.No other 5 star recruits are signing. Will we be any good in 4 years with a bunch of 3 star recurits?. Can the new O/Cord coach? Lots of changes in the coaching staff? Is that good?
vol1994, I don't hear Doug's show anymore, so I don't know what he said. Everyone has picked on Slade for a couple of years, even though we keep sending them to the League. Primarily on his DB's not playing adequate "Bump" coverage at the line. I do know Chavis said two years ago that if Slade goes, he goes. Of course this rumor of Slades' health keeps popping up. We couldn't afford to lose Chief now. There is the High School Co-or. job that Gerald left still vacant.
PLEASEGETRIDOFTHENOTSOSLIMONE - for someone to not support the football program like you state, you certainly waste a bunch of your time commenting on it!! Also, I believe you said you supported the other programs at UT right?? Why then do you never seem to find time (I think you have tons of it) to comment on any of the other stories?? Because you never have anything constructive to add to the conversation! I think you need to pick up a second hobby! Surely up there in good ole Kentucky you could find something to do right?? Go pull for Cincinnati Bearshats or Louisville Shartinals or the Kentucky Mildscats they could use your type of support!! Please though for the love of God tell me you have more to do with your time than get on a website and try to stir up phooey!! I'll go ahead and save you the typing!! I have been married now for 10 years to a woman from Santa Maria, CA and have a 13 month old little boy, so yes I do have all kinds of time when I'm not working, what's your excuse?? Again, stick to soccer (your futbol) you were good at it!!
vol1994: Your post is spot on concerning Coach Matthews' comments on his radio show and he's not just "whistling Dixie". I have been saying for the past month in previous posts, as Paul Havey says - "STAND BY FOR NEWS!"
Tdtn-6:17 a.m. Are you sliding off the course? You may need reindoctrination. I'm checking the charts
Get your signed copy of Mattingly's Football Vault and any 8x10 glossys and be at the K Kreme at 5:00 a.m. sharp. I'll bring a picture of the ring. Very faded and hard to remember, but still the ring. Slight possibility of rehabbing you. Slight. Big boy has agreed to give you a hug.
Lose the DT and DE references -not needed any longer. We won 10 without them. We now let them ramble between the 10s. Now you see. Its easy. Concentrate on warm and fuzzy. Better now. I thought so. Clutch your little sweater.......
On the surface it appears to be the old cliche "Can't chew chewing gum and walk at the same time" or something like that.
Was Fulmer so hung up on hiring the offensive staff that he took a nap on recruiting? Chavis can't and won't recruit so where were his remaining assistants? Signing a half dozen recruits that commited a couple of years ago doesn't sound to respectable to me.
But then again, were so loaded with talent we can afford to take a year off...right coach?
all i can say about recruiting is this: Texas, and coach February almost always wind up in the top five. Except for the Vince Young years, look where the Longhorns wind up. What bowl was it they played in the past two years? It is not so much how many 4 and 5 stars they sign, but what they do after they tee it up and play some games. I would love to see the Vols # 1 or even #5, but i do have faith that this class will be all right. I certainly think that taking his time to hire the right staff was the right decision. I love all you nattering nabobs of negativity. If we were ranked number one right now, some of you would be complaining that we did not sign the premier quaterback.
To Early to Tell: I can confirm that Matt Luke probably picked a good time to depart. An offensive lineman from Ole Miss should probably not be your recruiting coordinator going after 5 star guys. I think the changes in staff will help turn some kids our way. We started from scratch 2 weeks ago, so give them some time. By the way, West Virginia built a pretty good team on 2 and 3 star players, so you don't always know. Heart doesn't always run the 40 the fastest or lift 225 pounds the most reps, I will take guys with heart any time.
You're absolutely right Greer! Distractions, all them dang distractions.
First we had a SEC Championship game, then that durn'd bowl game. Next, all them coaches just walkin' off and had to be replaced! Ya'all made a big deal about a couple or three of our boys gettin' caught out carryin' whackyweed with one of our recruits in the Magnum. And now you boys are all worked up about recruitin'? Dang, what's next? Guess you'll want Ol' Phil to be distracted by Spring practice and that silly ol' O & W game? Next thing you know that dang'd ol' Pennington guy will be writin' some fool article saying that the program is out of control!
C'mon guys. Give ol' Phil a break. He only gets $2-point-something-million-a-year and you expect him to handle everthin'? Dang!
Dfreeman- You are simply a clown and a typical UT sheep. Go back and check how many times I have commented on how great of a coach Bruce Pearl is and how his players play for him. You need to take down the Fat Head of Fulmer in your childs bedroom before he starts to underachieve like his dads icon. And aren't you just the little family man. All jokes asside-congrats. You were a little on the wild side in h.s. so I am glad to hear that you straightened out some. But you do need to seriously stop acting like everything is alright in Knoxville.
First of all - I am a Fulmer supporter - consistent results in the SEC over these past years and the importance of stability in major college football programs these days makes Fulmer a made man - I work in Blacksburg Virginia - each year the Hokies get the lions share of talent in Virginia ( which has above average talent) most of these prospects are 3 Star - occasionally 4 Star - and this usually nets them a top 20 recruiting class, consistent top ten finishes, BSC appearances and consistent ten win seasons ( this would not be the case if they played in the SEC ) - what Beamer's coaching staff does with this talent is the difference - they coach them good fundamentals and the players improve - they have developed a knack for winning -with heavy emphasis on defense and special teams they beat the teams they are supposed to beat - they compete, I repeat compete in games that they may be overmatched ( except LSU this year) and they put some players in the NFL - With a solid coaching staff - we should not need a top five class every year - if we fall short in the recruiting rankings - let's rely on our coaches to overachieve rather than our talent to underachieve. I am optimistic that Chavis will get the D back to late 90's and early 2000's form - and am excited about Clawson - let's get after some recruits and coach them to get better.
I feel this was expected after the year we had. Now hear me out. Mid way through the year all the networks were talking about Fulmer being on the hot seat. Kids listen to this phooey. Just like when ESPN told kids they would be crazy to sign with Arkansas after they hired Petrino (that person should be fired by the way). Think about how many times on an average Saturday during football season that the #1 sports network says USC and talks about how great they are. That phooey gets embedded in these kids heads. During bowl season, thats all you heard was how great USC was, then they normally have a Top 5 class every year. Kids wanna play for the hot team.
who needs talent? you have outstanding new coaches and sjt18 has assured you all that tenn has figured out the spread. tenn has florida in knoxville and now owns georgia. you don't need talent.
This is a strange question. Very few vistors to this site have any inside knowledge of recruiting. There are two credable experts who have been proven accurate over the last few years. SCOUT.com has the VOLS ranked 53rd in the nation. RIVALS.com has UT rated 42. With so little talent left on the uncommitted board there doesn’t seem to be much of a chance to move up the list very far.
Ktucker - could'nt agree with you more. Let's sign what we can sign and then "work like heck" to develop what we have. Some times (2005) signing a great class does not always pay big dividends. It is how they react to challenges as a team and not as a bunch of disjointed 4 or 5 star athletes.
Wd40 stop sniffing your fumes it is affecting your ability to determine the true identity of poster children. Sorry, I'm not Coach Fulmer. If I was I could constantly feel the love from SEErUNvol and his cronies every day. Captainnnnnn Negativeeee has been sighted posting in a blogosphere near ewe! No bubbly for him cause it might make him get happy and we know that short of 'a miracle' that is not his state of mind. How can we not wonder about your life when all you spew is venom and spite. Go VOLS give us a good surprise on Feb signing day!
For all of you Fulmer bashers and Urban Meyer wannabees, let me see you spin this one: 1) Meyer had a Heisman winning QB and 4 WR with at least 4 stars, plus a defense that was MUCH less maligned than UT's. Record 9-4 2) Fulmer has a 4 star QB and 3 WR, only one of which was a 4 star recruit, plus a defense that started 2 true freshman in the secondary and a LB core that really only played w/ 2 players a year (sorry, I love UT, but Ryan Karl just took up space). Record 10-4 So, for everyone who talks about Fulmer not coaching talent, it seems to me you could say the same for Meyer. Bottom line, if you can't cheer for UT, then go drink a tall glass of shut-the-he!!-up juice. GO VOLS!!!
Pleasegetridof....pleaseleaveus....you have a right to your opinion about Fulmmer. Even if it is uninformed MOST of the time. Please don't confuse supporters of the program as "sheep". Of course, you lose all credibility with your personal attacks on Fulmer. It is apparent jealousy and hatred rule your life. I don't care how much you praise Pearl. It would take one or two mediocre seasons and you would be attacking his character. It is the manner of true idiots like yourself.
With that being said, it is important for everyone to realize recruiting rankings are totally arbitrary anyway. How is it someone is a 5-star rather than a 4-star?...because some guy says so. Who did he play against??? Recruiting rankings are highly overrated. When Nebraska was a powerhouse they had very few players that were rated over 3 stars.....so lets not get carried away. To be honest....I could care less. I KNOW it isn't that big of a deal. And I am sure a few posters agree
Lets face the truth guys Tenn High Schools do not produce a large number of D-I rated palyers at least the ones with the stars next to their name. This is not Fulmers fault. We have to get players from all over. The Alabama's of the world are lucky enough to have strong H.S. programs with a large number of kids growing up wanting to either play for the Tide or Auburn. Many states are like Bama. Tenn is not one of them. UT does not hold that special place in the instate players heart. Location has a lot to do with that. The kids in Memphis are a long way from UT.
The biggest aspect of recruiting that troubles me was the agony of watching our d-line struggles this year. This was the result of our d-line recruiting the previous two years.
Now where are we going to get better? DE and DT are in a glaring deficiency standing. Have we already forgotten our praising the defensive effort against LSU when they had 464 yards? We're so obsessed with offensive hirings when we're facing the same thing on defence this fall on the d-line. And without Mayo. Star ratings, how about zero?
The best DBs in the world can't cover without QB pressure. Look at the # of sacks we had this year? D-line recuiting again appears (granted appears) to be near-nonexistent. It will take a great leap forward somehow, somewhere from the one lone comittement (Douglas) out of the Top One HUNDRED as noted by the AJC. Feel better now..... Somehow, go Vols!
Well that does it. ESPN has weighed in. I guess we won't be any good ever again. I think I'll start rooting for the Tennessee AAFL.........wannabes? What is their name anyway?
i have not dismissed tenn in 2008. i have said, and will stick with this, that i want to see crompton play before trying to make any prediction on tenn in 2008. i think that tenn will pretty much go as far as their qb takes them and since i know nothing about crompton, i will not make a prediction.
now as far as the comment, i wrote. i plead guilty. it was a cheap shot....i couldn't resist. i figured if other tenn fans are going to spit venom at you......it might as well come from someone from a rival school
I tend to agree with pdhuff. I think the O side of the ball will be fine. I am worried about the D side. I know we all got caught up in the search for the new OC but my thinking is that the D still wins Champ's. All the time we spent on the new OC took most eyes off the D side. I just hope Chief wasn't just sitting around watching too..???
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rabidvol1998 writes:
Good question. I'd rather you tell us than ask us.
scvols writes:
I think we will be lucky to be in the top 30.
rabidvol1998 writes:
A big final push and we squeak into the top 20 and no harm done. With last year we will be ok if we have a good season in 08 and match it with a recruiting class. Just find me an Al Wilson or a Dale Jones in this class.
chefjorge writes:
Signing day, while crucial is not as important as some make it out to be, I feel. I want a great class like everyone else, but for all the five star players how many are Eric Berry's? Ole Miss got Patrick Willis out of our back yard and now he's the NFL defensive player of the year. Let's sign guys that want to be here. Who wanted that Mallett kid? I don't want to be held hostage by anybody particularly some punk and his a$$hat of a father. Peace.
VOLinDAWGland writes:
Recruiting? There's recruiting going on? Who'd have guessed by this reporting...the lack of info is unbelievable. Either Fulmer has shut out the KNS staff for understandable reasons or KNS just doesn't do any primary news gathering on the program in the city that they cover...unbelievable.
So instead of doing some leg work and getting some recruiting info all we get is another lousy poll. Well, I'm not playing.
CoverOrange writes:
I knew it! Fulmer IS VolforJesus! Dang! Thanks JW.
mbible1utk#324980 writes:
I think they'll do okay in the end, but it has bothered me to look at the list of the top 100 players on Scout.com and see how we didn't go after these guys.
vol1994 writes:
On the way to church this morning I listened to the
Doug Matthews call in show.
He said that he does not think we will close with any huge recruits as in years past so this class will be average (may land a couple 4stars.
He also made an intersting point but I was not able to listen to the rest of the show stating that we had our coaching staff but possible changes could still occur.
Did anyone happen to listen to his show this morning? I don't know if he was talking about Slade leaving or... last i heard Chavis was going to spend more time than usual with the d-backs due to Slade's health but.....
Go vols
ggriggs939#223122 writes:
Although some have made verbal committments, none have signed yet so how can anyone know how we are faring in recruiting???
mtnvol writes:
Rankings by a recruiting bureau mean less to me than rankings at the end of the season. I'm not sure anyone credible has established a correlation between the two.
Cherokee writes:
Could there possibly be a less relevant poll than this one? Ask a bunch of people who obviously could not have any clue how our recruiting is going to end up for their opinion.
Is there a point to this?
THANKYOU4GETTINGRIDOFTHENOTSOSLIMONE writes:
I will let you all guess what my vote was. Talk about some wasted $ as the Vols have the highest recruiting budget in the SEC.
rabidvol1998 writes:
Brent Hubbs just made a good point. High ranked classes tend to have big name skill position players and we are after the big uglies and LB's.
DekanGator writes:
OK .. Lets have some fun ... Say IM a 5 star recruit... the advantages of going to UT .. First of all "The SEC", 2nd the big house. 3rd Good education... 3rd playing time (on Def) 4th on TV alot...
The reasons why I dont want to go. 1st,,, Is the same coach going to be there in 2 years? they have been talking about getting rid of him for 4 years.No other 5 star recruits are signing. Will we be any good in 4 years with a bunch of 3 star recurits?. Can the new O/Cord coach? Lots of changes in the coaching staff? Is that good?
newtonrail writes:
vol1994, I don't hear Doug's show anymore, so I don't know what he said. Everyone has picked on Slade for a couple of years, even though we keep sending them to the League. Primarily on his DB's not playing adequate "Bump" coverage at the line. I do know Chavis said two years ago that if Slade goes, he goes. Of course this rumor of Slades' health keeps popping up. We couldn't afford to lose Chief now. There is the High School Co-or. job that Gerald left still vacant.
dfreeman writes:
PLEASEGETRIDOFTHENOTSOSLIMONE - for someone to not support the football program like you state, you certainly waste a bunch of your time commenting on it!! Also, I believe you said you supported the other programs at UT right?? Why then do you never seem to find time (I think you have tons of it) to comment on any of the other stories?? Because you never have anything constructive to add to the conversation! I think you need to pick up a second hobby! Surely up there in good ole Kentucky you could find something to do right?? Go pull for Cincinnati Bearshats or Louisville Shartinals or the Kentucky Mildscats they could use your type of support!! Please though for the love of God tell me you have more to do with your time than get on a website and try to stir up phooey!! I'll go ahead and save you the typing!! I have been married now for 10 years to a woman from Santa Maria, CA and have a 13 month old little boy, so yes I do have all kinds of time when I'm not working, what's your excuse?? Again, stick to soccer (your futbol) you were good at it!!
Hacksaw57 writes:
vol1994:
Your post is spot on concerning Coach Matthews' comments on his radio show and he's not just "whistling Dixie".
I have been saying for the past month in previous posts, as Paul Havey says -
"STAND BY FOR NEWS!"
pdhuff#552644 writes:
Tdtn-6:17 a.m. Are you sliding off the course? You may need reindoctrination. I'm checking the charts
Get your signed copy of Mattingly's Football Vault and any 8x10 glossys and be at the K Kreme at 5:00 a.m. sharp. I'll bring a picture of the ring. Very faded and hard to remember, but still the ring. Slight possibility of rehabbing you. Slight. Big boy has agreed to give you a hug.
Lose the DT and DE references -not needed any longer. We won 10 without them. We now let them ramble between the 10s. Now you see. Its easy. Concentrate on warm and fuzzy. Better now. I thought so. Clutch your little sweater.......
GreerVol22 writes:
On the surface it appears to be the old cliche "Can't chew chewing gum and walk at the same time" or something like that.
Was Fulmer so hung up on hiring the offensive staff that he took a nap on recruiting? Chavis can't and won't recruit so where were his remaining assistants? Signing a half dozen recruits that commited a couple of years ago doesn't sound to respectable to me.
But then again, were so loaded with talent we can afford to take a year off...right coach?
dwolfcreek#397971 writes:
what recruiting ????????????????????,
jimr07 writes:
all i can say about recruiting is this: Texas, and coach February almost always wind up in the top five. Except for the Vince Young years, look where the Longhorns wind up. What bowl was it they played in the past two years? It is not so much how many 4 and 5 stars they sign, but what they do after they tee it up and play some games. I would love to see the Vols # 1 or even #5, but i do have faith that this class will be all right. I certainly think that taking his time to hire the right staff was the right decision. I love all you nattering nabobs of negativity. If we were ranked number one right now, some of you would be complaining that we did not sign the premier quaterback.
VolsorCat writes:
To Early to Tell: I can confirm that Matt Luke probably picked a good time to depart. An offensive lineman from Ole Miss should probably not be your recruiting coordinator going after 5 star guys. I think the changes in staff will help turn some kids our way. We started from scratch 2 weeks ago, so give them some time. By the way, West Virginia built a pretty good team on 2 and 3 star players, so you don't always know. Heart doesn't always run the 40 the fastest or lift 225 pounds the most reps, I will take guys with heart any time.
GerryOP writes:
You're absolutely right Greer! Distractions, all them dang distractions.
First we had a SEC Championship game, then that durn'd bowl game. Next, all them coaches just walkin' off and had to be replaced! Ya'all made a big deal about a couple or three of our boys gettin' caught out carryin' whackyweed with one of our recruits in the Magnum. And now you boys are all worked up about recruitin'? Dang, what's next? Guess you'll want Ol' Phil to be distracted by Spring practice and that silly ol' O & W game? Next thing you know that dang'd ol' Pennington guy will be writin' some fool article saying that the program is out of control!
C'mon guys. Give ol' Phil a break. He only gets $2-point-something-million-a-year and you expect him to handle everthin'? Dang!
h_charles writes:
It sure would be nice at least ONE day to open up this site and see an article that says "UT signs recruit so-and so."
Seems it has been while since the Football Recruiting section actually indicated we got one.
THANKYOU4GETTINGRIDOFTHENOTSOSLIMONE writes:
Dfreeman- You are simply a clown and a typical UT sheep. Go back and check how many times I have commented on how great of a coach Bruce Pearl is and how his players play for him. You need to take down the Fat Head of Fulmer in your childs bedroom before he starts to underachieve like his dads icon. And aren't you just the little family man. All jokes asside-congrats. You were a little on the wild side in h.s. so I am glad to hear that you straightened out some. But you do need to seriously stop acting like everything is alright in Knoxville.
ctownvol writes:
Recruiting? Who says we're recruiting? Vicious lies I tell ya! And I, for one, will not put up with it. Off with their heads at once!
jdcvols#230433 writes:
h_charles, right on.
silvertr6 writes:
Fulmer has his extension and pay increase, so he can be like "Who, me worry?"
ktucker#301844 writes:
First of all - I am a Fulmer supporter - consistent results in the SEC over these past years and the importance of stability in major college football programs these days makes Fulmer a made man - I work in Blacksburg Virginia - each year the Hokies get the lions share of talent in Virginia ( which has above average talent) most of these prospects are 3 Star - occasionally 4 Star - and this usually nets them a top 20 recruiting class, consistent top ten finishes, BSC appearances and consistent ten win seasons ( this would not be the case if they played in the SEC ) - what Beamer's coaching staff does with this talent is the difference - they coach them good fundamentals and the players improve - they have developed a knack for winning -with heavy emphasis on defense and special teams they beat the teams they are supposed to beat - they compete, I repeat compete in games that they may be overmatched ( except LSU this year) and they put some players in the NFL - With a solid coaching staff - we should not need a top five class every year - if we fall short in the recruiting rankings - let's rely on our coaches to overachieve rather than our talent to underachieve. I am optimistic that Chavis will get the D back to late 90's and early 2000's form - and am excited about Clawson - let's get after some recruits and coach them to get better.
Basketball_Jones writes:
I feel this was expected after the year we had. Now hear me out. Mid way through the year all the networks were talking about Fulmer being on the hot seat. Kids listen to this phooey. Just like when ESPN told kids they would be crazy to sign with Arkansas after they hired Petrino (that person should be fired by the way). Think about how many times on an average Saturday during football season that the #1 sports network says USC and talks about how great they are. That phooey gets embedded in these kids heads. During bowl season, thats all you heard was how great USC was, then they normally have a Top 5 class every year. Kids wanna play for the hot team.
givehim6 writes:
As I have said, we will get some good players in this year. Next year if the vols do good in 2008 will be the year.
99gator writes:
who needs talent? you have outstanding new coaches and sjt18 has assured you all that tenn has figured out the spread. tenn has florida in knoxville and now owns georgia. you don't need talent.
xvillefan writes:
This is a strange question. Very few vistors to this site have any inside knowledge of recruiting. There are two credable experts who have been proven accurate over the last few years. SCOUT.com has the VOLS ranked 53rd in the nation. RIVALS.com has UT rated 42. With so little talent left on the uncommitted board there doesn’t seem to be much of a chance to move up the list very far.
rab63 writes:
I'll just bet this was started by John Adams....anytime he can't come up with a column he has a poll.
murrayvol writes:
Thanks Touchdown: If only we could dispatch Urban and Nick as easily as Smokey did Bucky and Aubie.
romevol writes:
Ktucker - could'nt agree with you more. Let's sign what we can sign and then "work like heck" to develop what we have. Some times (2005) signing a great class does not always pay big dividends. It is how they react to challenges as a team and not as a bunch of disjointed 4 or 5 star athletes.
murrayvol writes:
At least read the damn link before you post sjt.
vol4jesus writes:
Wd40 stop sniffing your fumes it is affecting your ability to determine the true identity of poster children. Sorry, I'm not Coach Fulmer. If I was I could constantly feel the love from SEErUNvol and his cronies every day. Captainnnnnn Negativeeee has been sighted posting in a blogosphere near ewe! No bubbly for him cause it might make him get happy and we know that short of 'a miracle' that is not his state of mind. How can we not wonder about your life when all you spew is venom and spite. Go VOLS give us a good surprise on Feb signing day!
THANKYOU4GETTINGRIDOFTHENOTSOSLIMONE writes:
The circus is in town and sjt18 is the ring leader. He is also starting a "Fulmer for President" campaign.
nivatne writes:
For all of you Fulmer bashers and Urban Meyer wannabees, let me see you spin this one:
1) Meyer had a Heisman winning QB and 4 WR with at least 4 stars, plus a defense that was MUCH less maligned than UT's. Record 9-4
2) Fulmer has a 4 star QB and 3 WR, only one of which was a 4 star recruit, plus a defense that started 2 true freshman in the secondary and a LB core that really only played w/ 2 players a year (sorry, I love UT, but Ryan Karl just took up space). Record 10-4
So, for everyone who talks about Fulmer not coaching talent, it seems to me you could say the same for Meyer. Bottom line, if you can't cheer for UT, then go drink a tall glass of shut-the-he!!-up juice. GO VOLS!!!
mojojojo writes:
Zeke says, "It's not the fault of the local dry cleaners that this recruiting class is down. Support your local dry cleaners".
Basketball_Jones writes:
Slow day SJT?
bernardking writes:
Pleasegetridof....pleaseleaveus....you have a right to your opinion about Fulmmer. Even if it is uninformed MOST of the time. Please don't confuse supporters of the program as "sheep". Of course, you lose all credibility with your personal attacks on Fulmer. It is apparent jealousy and hatred rule your life. I don't care how much you praise Pearl. It would take one or two mediocre seasons and you would be attacking his character. It is the manner of true idiots like yourself.
With that being said, it is important for everyone to realize recruiting rankings are totally arbitrary anyway. How is it someone is a 5-star rather than a 4-star?...because some guy says so. Who did he play against??? Recruiting rankings are highly overrated. When Nebraska was a powerhouse they had very few players that were rated over 3 stars.....so lets not get carried away. To be honest....I could care less. I KNOW it isn't that big of a deal. And I am sure a few posters agree
dgb63#654261 writes:
Lets face the truth guys Tenn High Schools do not produce a large number of D-I rated palyers at least the ones with the stars next to their name. This is not Fulmers fault. We have to get players from all over. The Alabama's of the world are lucky enough to have strong H.S. programs with a large number of kids growing up wanting to either play for the Tide or Auburn. Many states are like Bama. Tenn is not one of them. UT does not hold that special place in the instate players heart. Location has a lot to do with that. The kids in Memphis are a long way from UT.
rabidvol1998 writes:
Of ESPN top 150 prospects,
Florida has 33
Georgia has 14
Alabama has 9
Louisiana 3
Texas 24
California 12
Tennessee 1 and we got him - Wilks
rabidvol1998 writes:
To clarify, that is how many prospects are in the state, not that the school has committed.
pdhuff#552644 writes:
The biggest aspect of recruiting that troubles me was the agony of watching our d-line struggles this year. This was the result of our d-line recruiting the previous two years.
Now where are we going to get better? DE and DT are in a glaring deficiency standing. Have we already forgotten our praising the defensive effort against LSU when they had 464 yards? We're so obsessed with offensive hirings when we're facing the same thing on defence this fall on the d-line. And without Mayo. Star ratings, how about zero?
The best DBs in the world can't cover without QB pressure. Look at the # of sacks we had this year? D-line recuiting again appears (granted appears) to be near-nonexistent. It will take a great leap forward somehow, somewhere from the one lone comittement (Douglas) out of the Top One HUNDRED as noted by the AJC. Feel better now..... Somehow, go Vols!
hueypilot writes:
Well that does it. ESPN has weighed in. I guess we won't be any good ever again. I think I'll start rooting for the Tennessee AAFL.........wannabes? What is their name anyway?
99gator writes:
sjt18
i have not dismissed tenn in 2008. i have said, and will stick with this, that i want to see crompton play before trying to make any prediction on tenn in 2008. i think that tenn will pretty much go as far as their qb takes them and since i know nothing about crompton, i will not make a prediction.
now as far as the comment, i wrote. i plead guilty. it was a cheap shot....i couldn't resist. i figured if other tenn fans are going to spit venom at you......it might as well come from someone from a rival school
dgb63#654261 writes:
I tend to agree with pdhuff. I think the O side of the ball will be fine. I am worried about the D side. I know we all got caught up in the search for the new OC but my thinking is that the D still wins Champ's. All the time we spent on the new OC took most eyes off the D side. I just hope Chief wasn't just sitting around watching too..???
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