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TUSCALOOSA, Ala. - There were no Alabama ghosts, ghouls or goblins in Coleman Coliseum.
But Tennessee's Chris Lofton, Tyler Smith and JaJuan Smith showed up in the form of a three-headed monster.
The No.-7 ranked Vols exorcised their demons in Rammer Jammer Land by scoring a 93-86 victory over the Crimson Tide on Tuesday night.
UT had lost 17 of its past 18 games in Coleman Coliseum over the past 25 years entering the game. The last time Tennessee won in Coleman was an 84-70 victory in 1998.
"Alabama is a huge rival and it meant something to us,'' said Bruce Pearl, who is 2-1 against the Tide since taking over as the Vols' head coach. "Our kids were very aware of the importance.''
Lofton led UT (18-2, 5-1 SEC) with 23 points, Tyler Smith posted his third double-double this season with 17 points and 11 rebounds, and JaJuan Smith scored 22 points to stop Alabama (12-9, 1-5).
The Vols won despite committing a season-high 23 turnovers and nearly squandering a 10-point second-half lead.
UT's lead shrank to 78-75 in the midst of Alonzo Gee scoring eight of his game-high 27 points in a row.
But then JaJuan Smith heated up with 4:53 remaining, hitting the first of three consecutive 3-pointers to keep the Tide at bay.
"I brought it up a few times in the huddles during the game that our luck hadn't been that good here,'' JaJuan Smith said. "I just kept preaching that we could make history.''
Lofton helped seal the win by hitting both ends of a one-and-one free-throw situation to make it 88-81 with 59.1 seconds left.
"Alabama did take it personal, and that (Tide home-court success) was a big motivator,'' said Lofton, who was 8-of-13 shooting from the floor including 5-of-9 beyond the 3-point arc. "I had never won here, and I wanted that win.''
Tyler Smith wasn't intimidated by Coleman Coliseum - with good reason, as it turned out.
"I played my AAU ball in Alabama, so I knew a lot of their guys and played here probably three times every summer,'' he said. "But our seniors hadn't won here, and we know the history follows us, so we had to get us this win.''
The teams were deadlocked at 33-33 through the first half of this ESPN-televised event.
Pearl said the Vols were playing just as aggressive and "reckless" on offense as they were on defense. That led to 12 first-half turnovers and 31-percent shooting from the floor.
"We were rushing, and I could not get them to settle down and get spacing,'' Pearl said. "The second half, with the offense in front of me, we shot 69 percent from the floor, hit nine of 12 threes and made the free throws when they mattered.''
Tennessee had led by as many as eight in the first half, going up 25-17 on JaJuan Smith's transition layup at the 9:07 mark and again on a J.P. Prince trey (28-20) with 8:28 left before intermission.
But the Tide, spurred on by a loud crowd of 11,891, battled back with a 6-0 run. Back-to-back transition baskets by Mikhail Torrance gave Alabama its first lead at 33-31 with 2:48 on the clock.
A pair of Tyler Smith free throws with 8.3 seconds remaining in the half tied the game again.
UT opened the second half on a 12-2 run and led the rest of the way despite the Tide's charge.
"I think with JaJuan Smith and Chris Lofton, you've got two guys that about break your back by the way they shoot,'' Alabama coach Mark Gottfried said. "We are disappointed obviously, but they (the Tide) absolutely played their hearts out tonight.''
The Vols return play at SEC West Division leader Mississippi State (14-5, 5-0) at 7 p.m. Saturday.
© 2008, Knoxville News Sentinel Co.
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Posted by TommyJack on January 29, 2008 at 11:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Heckofawin in their yard.
Posted by Volfan1 on January 29, 2008 at 11:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Uh...while we novices are overlooked for a misspelling, it is not very professional for a newspaper headline to be wrong....."deAmons".
Anyway, great win over the DEMONIC Tide!
You can never beat Bama too often or by too many points.
Posted by justisiscumin on January 29, 2008 at 11:30 p.m.
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Posted by pearlific on January 29, 2008 at 11:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i love ya chis ...but quit jackin threes in crunch time!
Posted by rockyknox on January 29, 2008 at 11:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Imagine how many points Lofton could score if he had someone setting him up for a shot.
Posted by orangeinmississippi on January 29, 2008 at 11:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sweet victory guys,had my heart pounding there for a minute! ROLL Vols!
Posted by iowavol on January 29, 2008 at 11:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
No doubt TommyJack. Came to the West Coast this week, got to see the game in a sportsbar where everyone was cheering for the Vols - seems they hate the Crimson Tide in Rancho Cuacamonga. Great game in second half. Season high turnovers, season high fouls and still pull out this kind of victory on the Tide's court. Hail the Pearl! Good to see Chris, JuJaun and Tyler all have class A games at the same time. Unstoppable!
Posted by Kwitcherbellyachin on January 29, 2008 at 11:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The decision to attack the middle of the zone defense, and the prolific shooting from behind the arc (12-28) was key. I wish they had done that against Kentucky. And they hit some free throws for once, after a terrible start (19-28 after starting 1-6). Great win in a venue that has not been kind to this team.
Posted by rockyknox on January 29, 2008 at 11:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
llowry1000, looks like the Tennessean exorcised the deamon from the heading.
Posted by Chainsaw on January 29, 2008 at 11:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hahahahaha...Bama fans were streaming out of the place with time left on the clock. I guess they had to get home to slop the hogs...er, their wives!
Buck Fama!
Posted by ksteelescvol on January 29, 2008 at 11:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Great win against one of the most athletic teams in the conference. About 70 percent from the chairity stripe, and the 3 ball was falling. We clean up those turn overs and this game would have been a blow out. And to quote llowry1000, you can never beat Bama to often....
Posted by voiceofreason on January 29, 2008 at 11:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hard to be negative after this win. Alabama is actually pretty good and a better all around team than Kentucky. The Vols intensity and superb contiioning are winning these games that are close at the end. Credit Pearl for this and great play from the seniors, Loftin and JuJuan. That's what wins SEC road games. Let's get after the Cow Bells next!
Posted by reg_mza on January 29, 2008 at 11:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well let's see, a few observations:
1. When we pass the ball around a zone, we can be super dangerous if we stick to it and don't get careless and start improvising too much offensively. Tyler makes a perfect pivot to counter a 2-3 zone and our guards are dangerous when someone tries to commit to that pivot. If they don't commit, Tyler will eat you alive and it showed in that TN game.
2. It's official, Chris has his shooting stroke back. Either that or AL just can't defend the 3 point line. Probably a mixture of both.
3. Chism is still playing with soft, non-assertive hands and is fumbling the ball around like he has all season. I'm starting to think that Vandy game was a fluke.
4. Tyler had yet another good all around offensive game but defensively it looked like he did not anticipate and got out of position, making him resort to fouling. That will need to be worked on and he's smart enough to right his own ship thankfully.
5. Moreover, Chism and Jordan did a poor job of anticipating and got out of position WAY too much. Either they fouled or got beat.
6. JP Prince is a great athlete and his height and improvising abilities make him difficult to defend. But I swear he wings it WAY too much and is just as fumbly with the ball as Chism. If he does not work a great deal on being more heads up when he has the ball in his hand, he will be a liability against stingier defensive teams.
7. Gee from AL was a beast. He was in a zone and I'm not sure any team tonight would have slowed him the way he was playing but TN did well in countering anything he did with hitting shots of their own on the other end.
8. AL is a bigger team than TN but outside of Hendrix, they really were pansies around the paint. There I said it.
9. Overall, great win considering it is a hard place to play and even harder to win on the road in a very tumultuous SEC. This game was a good glimpse of how road wins need to be handled when NCAA tourney time rolls around.
Posted by mparker on January 29, 2008 at 11:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Glad to be wrong about the Vols losing at Bama, hope I'm wrong about MSU.
My word that was ugly. The home-reffing in the SEC is just pathetic. Look, I know they want home teams to win to keep fannies in the seats, but this gets out of hand.
The FT shooting was super eScept for Howell, but the TO's stunk.
Finally, the 5 point swing on the showboat play nearly bit us in the butt.
Posted by mparker on January 29, 2008 at 11:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Can we not learn to dunk?? I don't mean us fat white fans, I mean thsoe big stud players out there. We are constantly getting jammed underneath.
Maybe it's time to go up with both hands and slam it, might make defenders less slap-happy??
Unreal how poorly we finish at the rim.
Heck, Jajuan almost missed a layin on a breakaway.
Posted by VolCane7979 on January 29, 2008 at 11:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It was nice to see Howell make some plays at the end of the game with 5 key points down the stretch. However, the offense is clearly stagnant with Ramar out of the lineup. Dribble penetration is the key to opening up the offense and Ramar can do that very well. With Howell, we tend to pass the ball around the perimeter aimlessly without much attempt to push the ball into the paint. Nice to shake the ghost of Coleman Coliseum.
Posted by Kwitcherbellyachin on January 29, 2008 at 11:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Holy goodness... 69% from the field in the second half. If not for the sloppy ballhandling, we win this game by 25.
Posted by Chainsaw on January 29, 2008 at 11:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Need faster hands underneath. Wake TF up! Get the pass and make something happen or sit on the bench.
Posted by utchris2003 on January 29, 2008 at 11:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It is good to notch another tough conference win.
Pearlific..what are you referring to in regards to Chris. I don't remember him taking any bad shots at the end of the game. Were you thinking of Chism? He pulled the trigger at a bad time.
I really wish we would quit giving away 6-10 points a game by trying to make Sportscenter instead of taking the easy two. Take care of the easy ones and do not try to make a showboat play when there is not room to make one.
Playing down in the cow pasture this weekend will be a tough one. Varnado is a great shot blocker, but they do not seem to have the dominant big man inside like Hendrix or Patterson. Ramar and the guards will have to be ready to bring their A game on D bc Gordon is one of the leagues best.
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How many times is that same referee going to T-up Bruce this year?
Posted by HardcoreHottie on January 29, 2008 at 11:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You see, all they had to do was get the ball inside to the around the SEC letters. From there, multiple options open up.
Posted by bshell12 on January 29, 2008 at 11:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
J.P. is erratic, I think Tabb, while less explosive would be more consistent and a better passer especially to C Lo
Posted by alfrizzle097 on January 29, 2008 at 11:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Amen mparker12.
Also, about Howell and Tyler being out of position. Howell just isn't athletic enough, like Childress and Bradshaw. He plays smart, which compensates for his athletic shortcomings. Tyler got out of position trying to cover for Williams for much of the game.
Posted by Chainsaw on January 30, 2008 at midnight (Suggest removal)
"You see, all they had to do was get the ball inside to the around the SEC letters. From there, multiple options open up."
Welcome alien! Please translate that to our native language, and we will converse!
Posted by yemmusdarb on January 30, 2008 at 12:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
llowry1000: actually you are wrong and made a jackass of yourself. demon is correct, retard. that is, unless i'm missing out on some inside joke where "deamon" would actually MEAN something else??? but i highly doubt you are that intelligent or thoughtful.
as for the game: Howell played like a freshman, Tabb looked like he'd forgotten how to play basketball for the short time he was in (who can blame him?), and Prince somehow hit a shot other than a left handed layup or dunk (a 3-pointer at that!!!). i hope Lofton isn't at his peak right now, we need him hitting like this come tourney time. Tyler Smith is playing like he won't be back next year and Ramar is showing why he's retained his starting spot at the point. good win, but the next 2 are WAY more important.
if we HAVE to lose 2 more games, i'd rather lose to Memphis (non-conf game and we're expected to lose) and at Vandy. if we only lose those 2 games the rest of the way, we're almost automatically SEC regular season champs, as long as MSU loses a game. we'd be looking at probably the 1st 2-seed or MAYBE the last 1-seed for the tourney.
GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by alfrizzle097 on January 30, 2008 at 12:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Please post a link for the article where you read about Chism and Ramar being on the Mary Jane. Didn't hear that one.....
Posted by volsfaninkpt on January 30, 2008 at 12:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
JP needs to learn how to go right as well as left. If not teams are just going to stop him from going to the left and he will end up throwing it away like he did at times tonight. Still a good win. Keep it rollin this weekend.
Posted by volengr on January 30, 2008 at 12:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"demons" is correct
Posted by utchris2003 on January 30, 2008 at 12:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Chainsaw-
I think the poster was referring to the SEC letters in the paint. The ESPN commentator kept referring to it in the second half.
Posted by iowavol on January 30, 2008 at 12:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hardcorehottie - forget about Chainsaw's lack of ability to translate - just tell us more about your name. Send pictures!
Posted by utchris2003 on January 30, 2008 at 12:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Demons was misspelled when the article was first put up. It has since been edited.
Posted by yemmusdarb on January 30, 2008 at 12:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
gotcha, my bad
Posted by calivol on January 30, 2008 at 12:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
alfrizzle, you don't honestly think justis is basing that on anything more than a rumor do you? my sources tell me that justis "reportedly" heard it from a friend of his, who is the cousin of someone whose brother once saw wayne and ramar hanging out at a party.
Posted by mparker on January 30, 2008 at 12:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
JP has no D. Until he gete better (he should be super with his quicks, jumping, and long arms), he will see his minutes limited.
True on Jordan: he can't get over to cover the 3 shooter. But, he's gotta play when Remar gets wild.
I thought Tyler toughed it up. Tyler is pretty thin still, so that banging gets to him. I'm convinced that is why he din't play well at UK, too many games in a short time.
Posted by Chainsaw on January 30, 2008 at 12:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Hardcorehottie - forget about Chainsaw's lack of ability to translate - just tell us more about your name. Send pictures!"
He looks like your momma. Only with more body hair. Sorta like your daddy. Still want pics?
Posted by 1volsfan on January 30, 2008 at 12:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Great game, but we still need to tighten up on the defense. Thanks Chris.......... you are the man. Lets get ready for MSU and give them their first SEC lost........... GO VOLS
Posted by hdhurst on January 30, 2008 at 12:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Great road win.
Big surprise: TN having the rebounding edge, but at the same time having alot of turnovers..???
Keys to a final four appearance:
(1) Ramar penetrating in the paint (in control)
(2) CL and JaJuan hitting on all cylinders.
(3) We hold our own with off. and def. rebounding
(4) We continue the up-tempo offense (energy)
and defense (steals)
(5) Team free throw % above 65-70%.
Something about JP and Brian Williams. They have played exceptional at times, but you have to wonder why they don't have more focus holding onto the ball.
Otherwise, "b-e-a utiful" win tonight....GO VOLS!!
Posted by MemphisVol on January 30, 2008 at 12:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
LOVED seeing the "Welcome to T town" sign at the end of the game, especially after seeing all of the Alabama woodnecks' signs throughout the game. Go Vols!
Posted by Chainsaw on January 30, 2008 at 12:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Something about JP and Brian Williams. They have played exceptional at times, but you have to wonder why they don't have more focus holding onto the ball."
Indeed. It seems like they're playing at 50% speed at times. One thing I've noticed about Brian is that it looks like he has terrible peripheral vision - if it doesn't happen in front of him he just doesn't seem to see it. Soft eyes Brian - see everything, focus on nothing!
Posted by allvols7 on January 30, 2008 at 12:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Great road win. Good play Chris and JaJuan.
Refs were so hard on us tonight. Not the big T on Pearl, but everytime AL had the ball they were assured of going to the foul line. Refs blew the whistle before any contact was made...anticipation?
First half Howell attempted how many three pointers? Got to get more consistent. Guys the fancy play, its pretty when it works, looks pretty silly when it doesn't and cost us to many points.
Love the Lofton!! Go VOLS!
Posted by justisiscumin on January 30, 2008 at 12:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
there was no article about the boys smoking pot, it was revealed by someone I know that works security for a local school, where he has ran them out of the dorms several times, reaking of pot. Boys will be boys and all, and chasing the girls is one things, but the pot has to be dealt with. I was told Pearl has come and picked these two up on several occasions and kept them out of trouble, if the County or City nabs them they may not get the benefit of that phone call. They need to be clipped while they can move on wihtout a record or the embarressment, I think it is pretty obvious they are mentally on one minute and dazed the next. Hope this doesn't turn in a prophecy and they get suspended or cost us a key game, or both.
Posted by TommyJack on January 30, 2008 at 12:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Camera caught several of these in the crowd.
http://www.ratemymullet.com/show.php
Posted by Chainsaw on January 30, 2008 at 12:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Hope this doesn't turn in a prophecy and they get suspended or cost us a key game, or both."
Thanks Nostradamus, we're on it.
Posted by calivol on January 30, 2008 at 12:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"it was revealed by someone I know that works security for a local school, where he has ran them out of the dorms several times"...what does that even mean? someone "you know" that "works security" for a "local school"? a local school? you make it sound like this guy is a rent-a-cop out at Farragut High. way to be specific. sounds credible. and when you say it's "pretty obvious they are mentally on one minute and dazed the next," are you implying that they're high during the game? are you seriously dumb enough to believe that bruce pearl would allow two of his players to play reeking of pot?
Posted by FatherVol on January 30, 2008 at 12:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Many of you must have seen a different game than I did. Although FT %age was up, I thought we looked sloppy. Shot selection by some was horrible. We let AL play over our press and got burned too, too many times. Ballhandling was deplorable, losing too many turnovers (double our average!). If we play this on Saturday, we go down in Starkville.
Posted by Chainsaw on January 30, 2008 at 12:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Camera caught several of these in the crowd."
What station were you watching? All I saw on ESPNHD was this:
http://www.fatchicksinpartyhats.com/p...
Posted by chrisw2967 on January 30, 2008 at 12:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I just wish JuJuan would stop the stupid passes , like the one off the backboard on a fast break , he has a habit in every game to try some stupid pass that hardly never works , when he plays with his head he usually makes the right decisions and for Chism please stop with the 3s especially when the game is in doubt.
I am happy with the win and glad to see Lofton with that stroke back.
Posted by utchris2003 on January 30, 2008 at 12:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
TJ - Mad props for that one.
I think Alabama had a record for most And One's in a game. I think that the officiating has been worse this year. In the second half, GEE and Hendrix seemed to lean in to iniate contact a lot and got the foul call on us.
I thought that the elbow Gee landed on Chism was borderline cheap shot. He went low and had no play on the ball.
Posted by TommyJack on January 30, 2008 at 12:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
chainsaw: EEEWWWEEEE. roll tide! lol
Posted by rbatten9 on January 30, 2008 at 1:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ah at least we avoided hearing from bandwagon Tahd fans about how great their hoops team is this year. *whew*
Posted by TommyJack on January 30, 2008 at 1:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
UTChris: I don't recall,ever, a team causing more turnovers than we do. Amazing.
Posted by Hunter on January 30, 2008 at 1:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I was REALLY frustrated by our MULTIPLE misses at point blank range. No excuse for missing a 3-foot shot unless you're hacked (which we occasionally were) or blocked (which we rarely were). I'm 6'4" and I pride myself on making 90% of the layups I shoot in rec leagues. At 6'9", I would hope "Big Wheezy" could do a little better. FLUSH THE BALLL!!!!!!
Glad to beat Bama in b-ball, golf, tennis, tiddlywinks, or a pissin' contest. Round the bowl, down the hole - Roll Tide Roll!
Posted by Lessel on January 30, 2008 at 1:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hunter, you should work on hook shots. If we shot more hook shots, we would be tremendously better. They are hard to block.
Posted by rbatten9 on January 30, 2008 at 1:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Regarding Brian Williams, I think he's just showing his inexperience at times. Remember he hasn't played hoops very long, but I think, given the track record of Pearl, he will turn out to be a great one when he hopefully graduates from UT.
Posted by jhenson on January 30, 2008 at 1:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I got to watch my Vols in the waterfall bar at the Mohegan Sun Casino in Uncasville, Ct. tonight. Always sweet seeing Bama lose in anything...even sweeter when it's UT dishing out the loss. Loved whooping it up here in the frigid North. It's ugly at times, but they keep finding ways to win...Go Vols!
P.S. Can't wait to get the heck out of here and back to Atlanta on Thursday.
Posted by utchris2003 on January 30, 2008 at 2:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
TommyJack -
Your last comment. Was that directed at a comment I made?
Posted by KingsportVol on January 30, 2008 at 7:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Free Throws are not free.We better practice.
Posted by natcross24 on January 30, 2008 at 7:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
bshell--- i agree. i think JP has a knack to get to the rim, but if he doesnt get there it is as good as a turnover. his half court defense is suspect at best. i think the way this team is with plenty of scorers (i.e. Lofton, all 3 Smith's, Chism) Tabb would be a better fit as we get into conference play. he is alot better on the defensive end and even though he does not do much offensively, he does not turn the ball over. i agree with Pearls comments from earlier in the year, sometimes less is more from that position given all the others on the floor. Last night Gee was a beast. If you put Tabb on him just for a few minutes i feel that wears him down a bit.
Posted by Ironcity on January 30, 2008 at 7:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
For those who thought we should bench Lofton or bring him in off the bench. its time to acknowledge your errors (VolCR). He is still the man when it comes to this team. Great win when one considers it was like playing 4 against 6 with Howell leading the way for the Tide. He was just plain awful out there last night.
One last observation, our team has become to unselfish. To ofton we pass up an open 4 footer in attempt to jam the ball to a low post player for a lay-up. It's better then jsut coming down the court and taking the first look available but it can be dishartening to watch our bigs pass up a bunny.
Posted by GreerVol22 on January 30, 2008 at 7:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Finally some decent ESPN coverage, post game....
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?g...
Posted by vol52 on January 30, 2008 at 7:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This team finds ways to win. That will pay dividends tourny time. It was not a pretty win but how many other VOL squads would like to have left bama with a W pretty or not. This was Howell's last time playing in the state of Alabama and he was trying way too hard. KEEP the FAITH we can do it. GO VOLS!
Posted by dirtdobber1 on January 30, 2008 at 8:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
dykes and kessler are idiots- they need to stick to calling womens games!
Posted by jonathan012 on January 30, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Anybody notice how Chainsaw has nothing to say on his own? All he does is quote someone else and then makes fun of em...
Posted by fundamentals83 on January 30, 2008 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Questions.
1. For all of the fouls that we give up, has anyone fouled out this year?
2. Anyone else notice Nessler call Chism big whiney instead of wheezy?
Posted by mparker on January 30, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The turnovers by us were mostly unforced, stupid plays. The poster was correct, it was a very sloppy game.
Our finishing inside is a real problem. A team like NC would kill us, like Atchley did for Texas. Wayne has to get MEAN, and I don't know if he has that in him.
Tell you what, the kid from Bama with the 41" vertical was fun to watch. Wish we'd been up by 30 and just let him drive and dunk for the fun of it!
Posted by Archrockvol on January 30, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Grat win
Vols need better free throw shooting if the want to win the close ones and dunk the damn ball when they get it inside
Posted by GreeneVol on January 30, 2008 at 9:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I may be the only one, but I was impressed with Jordon Howell's play - I thought he came up HUGE with the drive to hoop for two and then a three the next time down. He missed like four other three's earlier but rose up exactly when the team needed him. That is true mettle in my book. I do know that I'm A LOT more comfortable with his ball-handling skills this year vs. last. Plus he had some good assists (4?) & limited turnovers (1?) in more minutes than the norm with Ramar in foul trouble.
Helter Skelter style - Pearl is still trying to figure out how to get these guys to be all jacked up on defense and then have a different personality on offense - that is a tough task. It ~appears~ that Pearl's approach is to let the reigns go on these guys - he doesn't get very upset when a showboat play goes bad - they do play loose for sure!
Good to see them turn it around on free throws - first six or so had 'long night' written all over them.
How long has Chism had the abdomen problem? What's the nature of it? Has to have an effect on how aggressive he will be.
Williams' losing rebounds: looks like he wants to 'run' from the paint bigs rather than standing in there and carving out some space with pivot and elbows.....
A satisfying win from this fan's perspective - and still lots that Pearl & Co. can work on.
Posted by pdhuff on January 30, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Way to go Vols. What about a coach coaching, cajoling, pointing out, animated, urging them on over the Tide!
3 on the way, BOTTOM!! Sorry John W, couldn't resist.
Way to go Vols. Pearl, you are the bomb. Beat whomever is next.
Posted by dirtdobber1 on January 30, 2008 at 9:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
zander666- You are right- the vols are getting better- 18-2 with an rpi of 1.
why dont you join espn's dykes and kessler as sideline reporter...and while you're at it put up some more Hillary bumper stickers!
Posted by bigorangedude on January 30, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This was a great win, because it was Bama! If this was our only win of the year, it still would be great, because its Bama! Tennessee took the whoopn stick down to Bama!
Posted by AlpharettaVol on January 30, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Dirtdobber -- it's Nessler, not kessler. Which game were you watching, anyway?
Posted by DSaVol on January 30, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
18-2 'NUFF SAID!!! On Selection Sunday not a damned soul that matters is going to remember how pretty or how ugly this game was (or most others for that matter). Now take all the amateur coaching observations back to the rec leagues and let this train keep on rolling!
Posted by dirtdobber1 on January 30, 2008 at 10:13 a.m.
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Posted by pdhuff on January 30, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Where there any DTs at the game?
Posted by armyvol544 on January 30, 2008 at 10:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
good read but the sub title talks about Lofton, Ramar and Tyler....Did he mean Lofton, Jajuan, and Tyler?
Great game for the Vols. Just keep it up.
Go vols
Posted by bleed_orange on January 30, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I was unable to see the first half, but I saw enough in the 2nd half to see that we can rebound when we want to. Rebounding is being in the right place at the right time and lots of effort (ATTITUDE). With the way we play, I'm surprised we don't have more nights like this with the TO's. However, I have seen us time and time again have 8-12 TO in a game and play the same way. We were a little out of control (more than normal) and sloppy with the ball. Tyler is being too unselfish at times. He would get the ball at 10-12 feet away in the paint and he would be opened and try to pass it to some one 2-4 feet under the basket who is guarded. Tyler it is OK for you to score 20-30 too (if you are opened so much). Brian will keep improving. Jajuan and Chris dive to the basket and get to the foul line. How many free throws did Chris shoot(2)? I also think you should give Josh a few of J.P.'s minutes for defensive reasons. Duke will keep getting better also. Chris is back!! We need Jordan with the way we play to give Ramar 10-15 minutes rest. All the fouls- that's one reason we need 10-11 players who can play some. VOLS you will have to step it up to your A++ game to beat MSU on their home court. But you can do it! GO BIG ORANGE! BEAT THE BULL DOGS AND THEN THE GATORS! GO VOLS!
JDS
Posted by bleed_orange on January 30, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sorry for the long post. I get long winded at times. VOLS-keep practicing those foul shots. You are looking a little better. Jajuan, save the show boating for when you are in TBA. Tonight will be some games to watch- Kansas at K ST and Memphis at Houston. GO VOLS-BEAT MSU!
JDS
Posted by GerryOP on January 30, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
pdhuff (10:15) Saw couple with the right size. Both were females.
Posted by johnlg00 on January 30, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Way too sloppy at times, but still a good, hard-fought win at a place that has been most unkind to us in the past. Gonna have to be a lot more careful with the ball to get by MSU Saturday. As I said before the game, this one would not be the pushover some were predicting. None of them are on the road in the SEC.
Not sure what dirtdobber1 was talking about--I think Dykes and Nessler are pretty good for the most part, but opinions vary.
Funny how coaching philosophies vary. Mears or Devoe would have jerked JaJuan out of the game so fast his head would spin after that boneheaded pass. They might have even kept him on the bench in the second half, and not allowed him to be on the floor to bail us out. In fact, he probably would not have even made the squad under them! I have the greatest respect for those two "old-school" coaches, and I sometimes want to pull out what is left of my hair over JaJuan's antics and Chism's ill-advised hoists, but CBP knows he gets way more good things out of them by not crushing their personalities. Funny to think it, but this might really help us with recruiting in the future!
Posted by bleed_orange on January 30, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh, by the way Hendrix was as good as I thought. However, Gee was a lot better than I thought. That's why I would of liked to have seen what Josh Tabb could have done guarding him. Just a thought from an arm chair coach. I was impressed with MSU when they played Ole Miss. TN will have their hands full on their home court. I hope we can cut our TO's, but keep our RB up. It's going to be a great defensive game. GO VOLS!
JDS
Posted by LazhilUT on January 30, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ah Lofton is back...I wish we could play UK this week and then they would only have their Cheerleading Squad as something to watch winning something...oh well, we'll get them at TBA.
Posted by grvol on January 30, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
When Howell is in, the lead shrinks. When both Howell and Childress are in, the lead evaporates completely. I thought the wholesale substitutions especially in the first half cost them the lead. Thank goodness in the end it didn't cost them the game.
Posted by GoVol on January 30, 2008 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
A win is a win but it sure was sloppy. if Bama would have hit their free throws, we probably would have lost this one.
We've got to take care of the ball better and hit the FT's. There doesn't seem to be much focus on the FT's as there should be by the team/coach. It will burn us if we don't get better.
Posted by dirtdobber1 on January 30, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
johnlg00- good points on chism and smith,juan.
my point on dikes and kessler(alpahretta), is if you didnt know the score you would have thought alabama was up by 20.
Kessler needs to get off of chism...how many times does it take for him to realize that chism takes those kind of shots every game, he did so last year and good timing on Dikes telling UT to slow it down at about the same time Lofton was drilling another 3!
Posted by doverton on January 30, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It was so pleasing to see the Alabama faithful sitting on their hands the last two minutes of the game. Their usual "bad taste" attitude was evident again last night with signs referring to Coach Fulmer and the football program.Will someone tell them this is BB season,and also that Coach Bryant died twenty-five years ago.( I've never seen so many houndstooth hats). Last nights win was very pleasing to me because of the way I was treated leaving the stadium after the Tide's victory in October.Again to see signs referring to that game shows the "true nature and classless taste" of most Alabama fans.
Posted by tnbanker_govols on January 30, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Grvol hit the nail right on the head. Howell needs to stick to dribbling, handling the ball, and passing...that's it. Childress.....well, his playing (or lack thereof) speaks clearly for itself. Great win....it was good to see us finally knock down some throws but thank goodness Alabama wasn't hitting theirs. Sloppy win which is okay with a team like Bama but I shutter to think what would happen against Memphis. Need to get better on our transition defense and take care of the ball better. Oh yeah, someone mentioned this before.....SEC officials make it almost IMPOSSIBLE to win on the road. Unbelievably ridiculous....touch fouls called against the visiting team and no blood no foul against the home team. And this is true for all SEC games not just Tennessee.
Posted by Tennisajoke on January 30, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
haha, giving up 86 points to a bad Alabama team...wait til Memphis puts up 100 on Tennessee....
Posted by tnbanker_govols on January 30, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Speaking of classless taste.....I believe "Tennisajoke" is illustrating that point very well.
Posted by Tennisajoke on January 30, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why? Cause I don't think Tennessee is as good as there ranking? Yeah, real classless
Posted by Tennisajoke on January 30, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
hahaha true...Everyone that roots for Tennessee fails to see how bad they are defensively. Jacking 3's is not going to win you many games in March. Jajuan Smith is not going to make raindrop 3's all year and at the end of the day if you give up 86 points, you have issues on defense
Posted by marc_ash on January 30, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Alabama played a style of play that Memphis will play. Some big physical guys up front and speed at the guard positions.
Tennessee played well. Free throws got better in the second half as did the spacing. In a gambling style of offense, the shots need to fall...and they did.
Good win Vols.
(did anyone happen to see the Bama fan that was holding up the football score from this year? A buddy of mine pointed it out to me....it threw me off guard..glad we got em back on the hard wood).
Posted by Tennisajoke on January 30, 2008 at 11:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Zander, we don't need to discuss how tasteless Tennessee fans are...when there beer bellies are hangin out of there shirts and they are consistently talking trash in basketball (a sport they have never even reached the elite eight in NEVER) it is pretty humorous. I love how all these people like the basketball team when they are good, and when they are bad, you don't hear a word from them....
Posted by tnbanker_govols on January 30, 2008 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
UT Martin Skyhawks, Richmond Spiders, Arkansaas State Indians, Middle Tennessee State University, Austin Peay Univeristy,Pepperdine, Siena, Eastern Carolina Pirates, Rice, Tuklsa, Houston,....just to name a few of the "powerhouse" teams Memphis has beaten this year. Not to mention a narrow win against a USC team with 6 losses AND against the mighty Tulsa Golden Hurricanes, Memphis scored 56!!! Oh yeah, Tulsa has 8 losses. HA HA HA HA.....No wonder Memphis is undefeated. We'll see how good the Tiggers are come February.
Posted by dirtdobber1 on January 30, 2008 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
tennis and zander- good luck in the sunbelt or conference usa...whatever the name of that league your team is in. Top notch! Memphis... what a great town! Good place to raise a family...a family of thugs!
Posted by Tennisajoke on January 30, 2008 at 12:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Tennessee is better? You have Fulmer's Felons that can't stay out of trouble...and if you don't know what conference we are in, then you simply know absolutely nothing. How is Lamarcus Coker doing these days? THUG... JAMES BANKS...THUG....BRENT SCHAEFFER...THUG. Recruiting some real quality guys is a staple for Fulmer and his Felons!
Posted by tnbanker_govols on January 30, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The last three you listed aren't at Tennessee anymore because they were thugs. Please go back to your Memphis board where you actually make a little sense.
Posted by Tennisajoke on January 30, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
make an elite eight...
Posted by tnbanker_govols on January 30, 2008 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The past is irrelevant....I believe we're in the year 2008. To my knowledge, I don't believe the brackets are out yet but I'll check to be sure and get back with ya....
Posted by weedbreath on January 30, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What about the 60 points in the second half! Tennessee's run and gun offense is going to give up some points on defense, but as long as they keep running they will keep winning! Good win!
Posted by bleed_orange on January 30, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
With the right seed and match-ups I think TN makes their first Elite 8 this year (maybe final 4). Memphis will be right their too, but I think Kansas or North Carolina wins it all- not Memphis or the BIG ORANGE. However, I think it's only a matter of 4 or 5 years before you see TN 1st National Championship in men's basketball. Bruce will start getting some the best players from Memphis and the rest of the country. GO VOLS! BEAT MSU SATURDAY!
Posted by RockyTop1 on January 30, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Tennisajoke MUST have issues like being an Alabama fan......so sorry LOSER!
No, it was not a "pretty" win but still a win! I was frustrated by their lack of discipline with the ball but we won and that's ALL that counts! Maybe Memphis will win??..... BUT THAT IS WHY THEY PLAY THE GAMES!! GO VOLS
Posted by tnbanker_govols on January 30, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't care about what has happened against Memphis and Pepperdine, or Memphis and Richmond or any other College school for the blind teams that Memphis has faced throughout this year. If you're gonna talk about how you beat this team or that team by so many points....how about Tennessee putting up 109 points against an MTSU team that Memphis put up only 65 points against??? Margin of victory was 69 points for Tennessee!!! That means our margin of victory was greater than the total number of points Memphis managed to score against MTSU. I'm through talking. Come back 2/24/08 and we'll see what's going on then. I posted the facts in my previous posting. Tennessee is ranked #1 in RPI for a reason. They play better quality teams.
Posted by fundamentals83 on January 30, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Not sure Memphis can hold on to 1 in the RPI even by winning out. SOS is really going to suffer as they get deeper in conference. 7 of last 11 games are against opponents with rpi out of top 100. 2 are out of the top 250. Throw the Tennessee game out and they don't have another game in top 75. Tennessee has 5 of last 11 against opponents in top 50. Tennessee already has 12 rpi quality wins while Memphis has 6 and Tennessee is the last possible. Zander, surely you aren't seriously saying that Memphis has a tougher schedule than Tennessee.
Posted by RockyTop1998 on January 30, 2008 at 12:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
haha haha as the redneck tard Alabama fans kept saying during the game. I don't care if we only win by 1 as long as we win and beat Bama at anything including underwater knitting for teams. I think that redheaded kid in the student section they kept showing might be inbred.
Posted by Tennisajoke on January 30, 2008 at 12:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
and have lost to a non-ranked team. QUIET!
Posted by weedbreath on January 30, 2008 at 12:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Is everybody forgetting that the SEC is still the strongest conference in the country? Conference USA? Stop it! We are not talking about Baseball.
Posted by fundamentals83 on January 30, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
bossvol. exactly
Posted by RockyTop1998 on January 30, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TENNISAJOKE I guess you dont remember that we lost to Ohio state by 1 or 2 at the most and your tiger high team lost to the same team by almost 10 in the next round. Real good team your tigers are. Also if I remember correctly you have a few THUGS on your team also. Between Anderson out trolling for prostitutes. And the other player who got lost and ended up in the middle of the St out in Millington because he smoked too much weed. Yea memphis is a real good school.
Posted by bleed_orange on January 30, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey, I know the SEC doesn't want Memphis in the league in football, but I have no problem in putting them in the SEC in basketball (EAST or WEST- doesn't matter). Of course, being a TN fan I would love to see TN play memphis 2 times a year. I would love to see them play FL, TN, Vandy, KY, GA and even S.C. home and away every year. However, that would give the SEC 13 teams- too many. How about we keep S.C. in football and let Memphis take their place in basketball. Cann't wait until the Memphis game to get all the talking over with. On the other hand, I wish it was at a neutral site. That way home cooking wouldn't play a part. Who knows we might get another chance at them in the Elite 8 or Final 4. Memphis will probally win because it is at home, but I have seen stranger things happen. TN will give them all they can handle. I say TN foul Dorsey and Memphis foul Chism and see who wins the free throw contest. GO VOLS!
JDS
Posted by bleed_orange on January 30, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
By the way, I don't mean to make any S.C. fans mad. I would just like to see how Memphis would do in the SEC. I'm sure they would still make the NCAA, but they would not go 16-0. They would probally go 12-4 or 13-3. That's my best guess. I would love to see the VOLS beat the Tigers, but it's not an SEC game. So, it's no big deal if we lose to the #1 team in the country on their home court. However, It will be a big deal if we beat the #1 team on their home court. I would rather beat them win it counts in the NCAA tournament. GO VOLS!
JDS
Posted by johnlg00 on January 30, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Dirtdobber1, I sure am glad that everything I say while watching a game isn't on national TV. Not that I'm their agent or anything, but both of the comments you mentioned made sense in context. Dykes is a former coach who saw how hectic the Vols were on offense at times, and he thought they needed to slow down a bit. On the post-game show, CBP said the same thing. The Lofton 3-pointer at that time was a classic "NO, NO, NO...good one!" They do know Chism takes those shots, and actually said that he is likely to take at least one of those per half. In any case, I would rather listen to them than have Dick Vitale yelling in my ear all the time, but that's just me.
Tennisajoke and Zander, I don't condone Vol fans going on your sites to trash your team, especially if they get personal. I would just suggest that you to reply to them where they posted those comments rather than coming on here and trashing those of us who HAVEN'T gone on your site. That way you can get the ones who have insulted you rather than make a whole new set of enemies. In other words, STFU ON HERE! Anyway, UM may win the game in Feb but they will get the biggest fight (only on the court, hopefully!) they have ever had up to then and you know it!
Posted by utchris2003 on January 30, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Greenevol-
I dont think that Chism has actually been hurt. The hexpad under shirt that he was wearing is a under shirt that a lot of the college players are wearing these days. Made by McDavid, it was made popular by all those fall down 7 get up 8 commercials that D. Wade had. I would bet that he had the shorts on as well. Just gives the guys a little more padding for all the physicality inside.
Posted by TommyJack on January 30, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Tennisajoke: You bring up beer bellies. I'm sure I read recently that Memphis is the most obese city in the US. River trash forever. And a coach so crooked, he has to screw his socks on.
Posted by utchris2003 on January 30, 2008 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
it looks like we have a dissenter or an imposter among us. Go check out the "Gonzaga thinks Memphis is better" article.
Code name: h_charles
Posted by icecream on January 30, 2008 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Bruce, missed the orange jacket. Dont go soft on us man.
Posted by TommyJack on January 30, 2008 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Bruce, love you man. Lose the orange jacket.
Posted by bleed_orange on January 30, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This is my opinion. I'm not going to look at every game Memphis & TN played -just a few. Memphis at Oklahoma by 10-good win,Memphis at U Conn by 9-good win,USC by 4 at home-OK win,Memphis at Cincinnati by 10-GW, Georgetown by 14 at home-great win, Arizona by 13 at home-GW, and finally Gonzaga by 8 at home-GW. Memphis 1 great win, 5 good wins and 1 OK win (7 opponents). Now for TN, MTSU by 69-better than Memphis, W Ky by 6 on neutral court-OK win, UTC by 6 on their home Court- OK win, Xavier by 7 on their home court- great win, Gonzaga by 10 on a pro-Gonzaga neutral court-GW , S.C. by 24 away-GW, Vandy by 20 at home-great win, Ohio St. by 5 at home-GW, GA by 16 at home while shooting terrible at the free throw line-GW, and finally Ala. by 7 on their home court- very good win. That will be TN-1 terrible loss to TX and 1 tough loss to KY,2 OK wins, 1 better than Memphis win, 4 Good Wins, 1 very good win, and 2 great wins (12 opponents). Memphis 7-0, TN 10-2, but that's OK. Because TN is more tested will be ready for the tigers. It should be a great game to watch. GO VOLS!
Posted by johnlg00 on January 30, 2008 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Icecream, CBP has said that the orange jacket is only for Vandy and UK, as a tribute to Coach Mears. In that spirit, it is fine with me; as a fashion statement...not so much(;-P)! Not that I really dislike most clothing items in orange(;-D)!
Zander, most of those talking trash on your site do the same here, but mostly in response to slams like yours. Having lurked on many other teams' sites, it is my humble opinion that they are all about the same--some good, thoughtful posters, some blowhard get-a-lifes. As for me, sharing opinions and info is good, childish nya-nyas and "yo momma's" are a waste of time. See you in Feb! UT v. UM will be the greatest (or at least most-hyped!) game in the history of basketball in the state. I can't wait!
Posted by bleed_orange on January 30, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
When TN plays Memphis, I think they should have Josh Tabb 6-4 (great defender) on Rose 6-3 for about 15 minutes and the rest of the time have Jajuan, Chris, Ramar, & Jordan switch in and out on him. I also think TN should put Tyler(6-7)sometimes and Duke (6-7)sometimes on Douglas-Roberts (6-7). As far as Anderson (6-6) I think we should have JP (6-8)on him when he is in the game (the rest of the time switch who ever elese is in the game on him). The toughest match-ups will be Dozier(6-9) and Dorsey(6-9). I think TN guards them by using all their fouls with Brian (6-10),Wayne (6-9),Ryan (6-9),Tyler, Duke, and JP. Of course, that's not to leave out their bench: Allen(5-10),Kemp(6-2),Robinson(6-5),Mack(6-5), and Taggart(6-10). That's TN 11 vs Memphis 10 + home court. Now, we know that hieght is not everything. I think it will be who wants to win more and plays harder on defense + rebounding. I think both teams will have more than their average of Turnovers. Hopefully, TN will be hot from the 3 pt line. GO VOLS!
JDS
Posted by fundamentals83 on January 30, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Anybody know which conference is providing the officials for the Memphis game? Do we want an sec crew?
Posted by fundamentals83 on January 30, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Zander, you miss the point.. You don't have any losses because you have played cupcakes. Play Texas or Kentucky and then get back to us. Until the actual game, the 2 UT losses do nothing for Memphis. But that is all that you have to hang on to considering Tennessee spanked you all last year 76-58 with a lesser team.
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Posted by Ironcity on January 30, 2008 at 3:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Lets see, the last time the great Memphis played UT. Game was over after 10 minutes. Try harder this time fellas.
Posted by ballewville6 on January 30, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
very good win on a floor that they had not won on in years ,i think jordan howell had the worst game of his life and he kept shooting 3,s 4 or 5 in a row that is why we lost lead in first half but im very happy to see duke back if he would have been back before the kentucky game we would not have lost ,and we would not have dropped as far in polls 4 spots lossing at kentucky a team that we have always had trouble with,and north carolina lost at home yet they drop only 3 spots im am tired of all the bad voters in the polls, but duke is healthy chris his shot is back over 15 3,s and 50 percent in the last three games i hope the country is ready we might lose again but now we have got a for sure a final four team and i worry more about miss state than memphis we havent beat miss state to often on road but we have beat memphis 2 years in a row with a team not as good as we have now
Posted by bleed_orange on January 30, 2008 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I wouldn't call them good loses; I would call them good lessons learned. Memphis's lesson is on its way from Knoxville. Win or lose it will be a great game to watch. It will be a must see for Memphis fans, UT fans, Conference USA teams, SEC teams, and the rest of the NCAA tournament teams. It will be all about record & RPI for seeding in the NCAA Tournament. Then it's all about the match-ups and a little luck to go along with it. Not that I think TN will win when they play Memphis, but I hope Memphis is still without a loss. If TN has a good run, they maybe #2 behind Memphis going into the big game. That would be awesome for the state of Tennessee to have #1 vs #2 from the same state. Until then go Tigers and GO VOLS!
jds
JDS
Posted by marc_ash on January 30, 2008 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
zander616, posting items of intellegence works from both sides. First off, Memphis is a good team and no one should refute that. However, just how good they are remains to be seen.
Memphis has only beaten 1 ranked opponent all season which is Georgetown. UCONN just cracked the top 25 this week. The Vols have already beaten Gonzaga, Xavier, Vandy and Ole Miss which were all ranked or are all still ranked and will be playing another ranked team in Miss State on Sat.
One of their 2 losses was to a highly ranked Texas team
In fact, Tennessee plays 5 more games against ranked opponents this season giving them 11 games against top 25 teams.
Now, lets see Memphis' resume: Wins against Oklahoma, Arizona, UCONN and Georgetown. Only Georgetown was ranked. I'll give you UCONN by default because they just broke the top 25 this week, but at the time they were unranked. Gonzaga isn't ranked now, but I included them in UT's wins so I'll do the same for Memphis (even though they were ranked when UT beat them).
Memphis has 3 top 25 wins and the Vols already have 4. The Vols play 5 more ranked opponents and Memphis plays 1 (UT). Memphis plays Siena, SMU, UAB, Tulane, UTEP....come on.
Tennessee did lose to a highly ranked Texas team and a very good home Kentucky crowd. Might want to not get too excited about being undefeated when you play the likes of Richmond and Austin Peay (quality wins by the way).
Posted by bleed_orange on January 30, 2008 at 4:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
GO BIG ORANGE! BEAT MISS. ST. by 1 or by 30 I don't care. Just WIN! Play your hearts out(110%), play under control, and play smart (take high % shots and high % passes). TN needs to use their fouls wisely and we need to hit at least 70% from the foul line. It will be a hard place to win this Saturday. Stealing a line from the Water Boy-"YOU CAN DO IT!". If we happen to lose it will not be the end of the world as long as we're ready to get those GATORs on Tuesday night. GO VOLS!
JDS
Posted by stinky_pinky on January 30, 2008 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
how about those slap dicks holdin up the "41-14" posters??? i hope fulmer and the boys saw that bs
Posted by bleed_orange on January 30, 2008 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh, and by the way Conference USA was better before the BIG EAST stole-Louisville,Marquette, & Cincinnati. Did I leave anybody out? SEC! SEC! SEC! GO VOLS!
Posted by johnlg00 on January 30, 2008 at 4:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Gosh, bleed_orange, when you laid out all the heights for the UM players, it was scary. We might as well not show up--NOT! They are big, fast, good, and deep. On paper, at least, they may be the best a CBP-coached team has faced. On the other hand, the Vols will be the best team Memphis has faced at least since the G'town game in last year's NCAA--G'town was better last year. Also, the Vols will have been tested by a better schedule in the SEC than Memphis will see in CUSA. The Vols also have the confidence that they can go anywhere and win. Memphis will be favored, but the Vols won't quit and it should be a classic. Not that there won't be any more back-and-forth sniping, but really it has all been said by now. Is it possible we can all give it a rest for a couple of weeks? Let's all focus on FB recruiting and MSU for the next little bit.
Posted by pdhuff on January 30, 2008 at 5 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Beat the Maroons.
Posted by bleed_orange on January 30, 2008 at 5:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
johnlg00, that sounds good to me. MSU plays mainly only plays 7 guys: #1 player-Jamont Gordan (6-4) 17.6pts ave /33 minutes per game, # 2 pl Charles Rhodes 14.9pts /27.5MPG(6-8), #3 pl Barry Stewart 12 pts /34MPG (6-2), Ben Hansbrough 9.7pts/31MPG(6-3),Jarvis Varnado 7.4pts/26MPG (6-9), Phil Turner 5.3pts/21MPG (6-3), Brian Johnson 7.7pts/12MPG with Riley Benock (6-4), Elgin Bailey (6-8),Ravern Johnson (6-6), and Kodi Augustus (6-9) in limited action. They are a good rebounding team for not having a lot of size. They shoot worse from the FT line and 3-point line then TN does. They average 15.5 TO per game and fewer Assists & fewer steals a game then TN. However, they block more shots then TN. On paper it looks like a favorable match-up for the BIG ORANGE. But that's why you play the game. You never know what's going to happen. GO TN! BEAT THE BULL DOGS! I can't make that away game, but I'll be at TBA to see the VOLS play FL. GO VOLS!
Posted by iowavol on January 30, 2008 at 7:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Read an LA newspaper on my way back from West Coast this morning. LA college bb reporter summing up the state of the union referred to Vanderbilt as the biggest fizzle. His argument was based on a 16-0 start and then a 1-4 SEC start in a mediocre league. Interesting comments. SEC only confernce with 5 teams in the top 25 including 1 rebuilding and 1 picked to finish last in the west. Well, on second thought, our conference just may be mediocre for SEC standards, but it sure as hell is a notch or four better than the PAC10 and head, shoulders, bellybutton and ankles above C-USA.
Posted by fundamentals83 on January 30, 2008 at 9:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow Zander, way to cherry pick the data. You had to select non-conference RPI because your conference wins don't help. Let's look at overall RPI by your same url. Tennessee #1 without cherry picking. Give it a few weeks and Memphis will drop from the 3 spot because sos tanks from here on out. (exception Tennessee) Let me help you since you have a very narrow perspective on things.
http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_223_Me... Look at your last 11 games. Good luck with those 279 games
Posted by LR_Vol on January 30, 2008 at 11:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html
Not sure what the State of Memphis is talking about. Pretty sure this is the RPI the rest of the world uses.....
Posted by utchris2003 on January 31, 2008 at 12:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Memphis moron. You posted the link to the Power Rank not the RPI. As LR_VOL previously posted, TENNESSEE is still #1 in the RPI. We are tired of proving you wrong!
oh yeah, read it and weep fella!
Posted by fundamentals83 on January 31, 2008 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
sure you are.. Just like you were out at 9:16. You'll be back, you like the punishment.
Posted by tnbanker_govols on January 31, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
He won't be back.....had to go "blaze" with the rest of the pack. I'm sure he'll be out of commission for a while!
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