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ESPN recruiting analyst Tom Luginbill puts Vols in Top 10 on his Class of 2009 recruiting list:
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agentorange writes:
if i gave a whoo-hoo about espn or what any of the dunderheads think, i might be impressed. read si.com (sports illustrated) for sec coverage. it kills chris low who is the sec guy for espn.com and used to be the hack who wrote drivel about the vols for the tennessean.
auttat writes:
When did the KNS become the torch bearer for the "ESPN Conspiracy Theorists"???
WorkinLikeHeck writes:
what's this....I guess my comments only affect recruiting when there needs to be an excuse. Very convenient. LOL!!!!
CoverOrange writes:
"The surprising contract extension of Phil Fulmer won't hurt down the road either."
The word "surprising" says alot and the words "won't hurt" in regard to recruiting explains alot.
The attribution of the offensive recruiting resurgence to the addition of Clawson makes the future of Chavis suspect.
Interesting that Alabama is on the cusp and Florida isn't even listed. Still early though.
RJ_Vol writes:
I think it's obvious to most(now including an ESPN analyst) that UT is off to an excellent start in recruiting. However, it's not how you start the race, it's how you finish. As stated by many here, there are obvious needs at DT. So, much work is still left to do. Also, it's difficult to determine the success of a recruiting class in July...student athletes still have to sign the paperwork and get into school. Nonetheless, I like our positioning(we are ahead of many of our rivals at the moment) and if a few recruits go our way we'll be far better than 10th.
tigervol9802 writes:
Hmmmm.......
Anybody else remember the days when finishing out of the top 5-8 in recruiting was a disappointment? Now we crack the top 10 7 months from signing day and it's headline worthy news.
I won't even mention the lack of D-tackles.
Sheepscape writes:
Recruiting is the beginning, not the end. All these rankings mean nil if you don't do something with them. Top ten in recruiting? I'd rather have a top ten finish come January...something we haven't done in many years.
BigOrangeJeff writes:
Looks like one of the idiots has an awfully high opinion of himself. Either that, or a pathetic need to try to get everyone talking about him. What a maroon.
BOJ
ACG writes:
Seriously? You people are spinning this article in a negative way? I find it incredible that even a positive article can generate such negativity. It is ALWAYS nice to make an ESPN list and get the free, positive, publicity.
knoxtenor writes:
Great. Congrats on getting on the list. Here's an idea: Why not be listed in a list that really matters--say, being in the top ten of the BCS. It's not the quality of the building blocks you use, it's what you do with them that counts.
TommyJack writes:
ACG: You're right.
WorkinLikeHeck writes:
meanwhile, Chavis and the mustached gang are 0-fer on the recruiting trail. Good job.
BigOrangeJeff writes:
ACG, these idiots could win a three-day, all expenses paid weekend in Bangkok with the female cast of Baywatch, followed by being presented with the winning nine-figure Powerball ticket, and still see the glass as half empty.
Johnny Majors coined the phrase just for them: Legions of the Miserable.
BOJ
hcjournals#206623 writes:
Dear Workin:
You are just a negative person. And by the way, don't flatter yourself. Having a computer and internet access doesn't make your drivel "comments." We still want you to be a Vol supporter. Please let the Vols do something positive without sullying up the article with your hateful diatribes. Just because you aren't restricted in making negative comments about UT doesn't mean we don't dislike seeing them. Please do a turn-around.
tigervol9802 writes:
BOJ -
Well, being as that how your scenerio would probably cause me to be divorced and my wife to take half the winnings and then the lawyer fees on top of it, yeah, I can see that as half-empty.
In both cases, I am just stating the obvious.
bobbarbilly writes:
Bed-wetters usually morph into negetive personalities.
WorkinLikeHeck writes:
We're in the top 10 in recruiting in the beginning of July, so I guess recruiting at this stage matters now. I love how things only matter when we're percieved as being the best or in the top 10. When we're ranked #35 in February it's because Fulmer didn't have a new contract (although he was operating on a 7 year contract then just as he is this year), people were making negative comments about Fulmer, etc. I haven't heard the excuses yet for not being in the Top 10 in football in several years. What are they? Surely, you aren't going to blame not being in the top 10 on people making negative comments or Fulmer's contract are you?
mjohnsonvols writes:
Workin
"Blah blah blah blah"
same old stuff from workin. More crying and being negative.
When are people on here going to learn he works for govolsxtra. He is just trying to get things started on here by being negative. It took me forever to figure this out. I now know. So just quit feeding the animal it only makes him worse.
There is no way one person can be that negative.
GO VOLS!
Bass_Vol_1998 writes:
I think its because that fatso workin took that week off of the boards... that is the week that we did so well in recruiting.
BigOrangeJeff writes:
The idiots need to starting working the Costanza model: If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite of every instinct would have to be right.
BOJ
rllipscomb#212376 writes:
agentorange
The "drivel" is you denegrating Chris Low. Chris is a top-notch sports reporter who consistently delivered news about UT not found elsewhere. When he offers opinions about teams he covers, allways calls them as he sees them.
tigervol9802 writes:
marc_ash -
I want a SEC title.
Not being in the mix, playing for it, etc. I want a trophy and orange and white confetti to fill the GA Dome the first weekend of December.
Anything less is unsatisfactory. And if Fulmer gets all the credit for winning, then he must take the blame for not winning one in going on a decade.
GerryOP writes:
Good job coaches. Keep these kids on the line until you land them in February.
Speaking of haters, having a bad day agentorange? Or a totally bad life?
tigervol9802 writes:
Also, for the record -
Fulmer has not made a change that fans said "needed" to be made in his tenure. The only time there have been major changes is when a coach decides to leave on his own accord, including Sanders.
WorkinLikeHeck writes:
yeah, I forgot Foolmore fired Cutcliffe, Roper, Luke, Trooper etc. didn't go after Kippy Brown who was in the family and then went after Spence for deciding on Clawson who at this point is doing good on the recruiting trail. Still doesn't change the fact that Chavis doesn't like to recruit and that the rest of the mustache gang are becoming dead weight. Caldwell and Brooks are okay but they are career position coaches. Slade...ummm, why is he still on the staff?
Go4Two writes:
Sports are littered with teams that got bored with just winninig. Owners or AD's decided that winning 10 games or just winninig divisions was not good enough.
Neb. Cornhuskers 10 wins not cutting it Peterson decides to take program to next level (Col. Buffs. Ring Up 70 point on the Huskers last year) Truly a new level
Yankees tired of winning Divisions and losing in the playoffs... How's that working out so Far??
For every success story there is a mistake be very carefull watch you wish for..
tigervol9802 writes:
stj -
With all due respect, we've been firmly "in the mix" 6 of the past nine seasons (00, 02, 05 the expections), with nothing consequential to show for it.
Sorry, SEC East titles and Outback Bowl victories don't necessarily make me want to go buy t-shirts celebrating those achievements.
JHCRANE writes:
We are having a better recruiting year this year than last, But I don't care about how stars they have or what any scout thinks of them. As long we play well and win I don't care if we have a bunch three star players. Look at auburns D the last couple of years they have a lot of average players according to the scouts, but they play well and win. IN the SEC.
BigOrangeJeff writes:
Sanders left on his own accord? I don't think so. He, as are most high level managers, was offered the chance to "resign" with a nice severance package or get fired and get nothing. Being a smart guy, he took the money and ran.
BOJ
tigervol9802 writes:
Really BOJ?
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colleg...
Either Fulmer/Sanders/Hamilton/the athletic department are all liars or Sanders resigned on his own accord.
I'm pretty sure he didn't get a dime for the 2006 season since he resigned, but I can't find an article confirming that.
BigOrangeJeff writes:
Posted by hiresanders on July 9, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Talk to me in February. If we're still behind Rutgers then, God help us.
________________________________________________
To which team are you referring when you say "if we're still behind Rutgers?" I only ask because, judging from some of your other posts, you are clearly not a Vol fan.
If I had to guess, I'd say you're a Bammer.
BOJ
BigOrangeJeff writes:
Wow. I guess you really showed me. I can't imagine that anyone - particularly a coaching staff and an athletic department with a rabid fan base that has a vocal minority with unrealistic expectations - would bend the truth in a press conference in order to send the most expedient message. No, that never happens.
BOJ
Oenoboy writes:
Come on tigervol, you aren't that naive are you? A ten-year-old can see through that spin.
As for the rest of the miserables, give it a rest. There is no negative take on this. Fulmer is putting together another top ranked class as he seems to do every other year on average. Doubt his other coaching skills all you want but it is a well known fact that Fulmer is one of the top recruiters in the country.
volguy41nlouisiana writes:
Opinions are like....well you know...but to sit here and attack each other or UT football and coaches for cracking the top ten in recruiting...LMAO....its so funny its sad....(its not how you start...but how you finish.......No DTS...)...my god...how do yall make it thru the day with such disgust towards the team you claim to like...It bewilders me how such a positive thing can bring such disstain from such a large amount of haters.....Anyways....great job coaches....keep it up....and GO VOLS....
PennVol writes:
Do they give National Championship trophies for recruiting? I didn't think so...so who cares where we're listed by ESPN. Eventually we gotta line up on the field across from the Gators, 'Dawgs and War Eagles so I'm more interested in what we teach recruits once they're in K-town.
BigOrangeJeff writes:
PennVol,
Actually, I think Bama includes about five recruiting championships among the 37 total NCs they count.
BOJ
tigervol9802 writes:
Well, I guess you all just called Fulmer a big, fat liar, not me!
IMO, for him to make a change like that in mid-stream would be about as out of character as can be.
BOJ - Going shorter than 10 years between SEC titles is unrealistic? Or not enjoying losing to Florida, UGA, and Bama in the same season (the Vandy debacle had not happened yet) with the 108th ranked offense in the country is unrealistic? Exactly what are your standards?
tigervol9802 writes:
stj -
I presented the facts as we know them.
My speculative take is that I think Fulmer was going to make a change at the end of the year and keep Sanders on staff in some area, probably moving him to WR or RB coach. That is based solely on hear-say.
But for all purposes intended here, I do think he would have made some type of change.
Unfortunately, Sanders made the decision himself - and I do believe that, thus keeping the trend alive that Fulmer has not had to make one decision in staff that the fans said "needed" to take place.
tigervol9802 writes:
marc_ash -
If a school who claims to be a top-notch program does indeed go ten years between conference titles with the same coach, obviously something is amiss, IMO.
invisiblekid writes:
Clawson and company are quickly proving that they can recruit with the big boys, now it's time for Slade, Brooks, and Caldwell to show what they can do on the defensive side.
Going into year 3 post Sanders, I am not sure what effect he actually has on recruiting at this point.
hcjournals#206623 writes:
Good posts. What the negative people don't realize is that a lot of recruits read these posts, and whether they know it or not, as long as they are saying negative things about Coach Fulmer, it is hurting the recruiting process. It may be negligible, but it certainly doesn't help when some foolmore or some one workin like heck or whatever can't just shut up and read. I'll be the first to tell you that sometimes we underutilize our talent and we are too conservative on offense sometimes. We also just hired an OC who is very aggressive in this area. So just because we are positve that doesn't mean we don't have a lot of room to improve. Why do we have a slow start a lot of years and get beat by Florida, and then end up higher than them in the rankings? We got destroyed by Florida, played the best first half in history against Georgia, and then Georgia beat Florida. What gives? I don't know. But I know when we beat Florida again and are undefeated we always stand a chance to go all the way. This is what we need to be talking about. We are dancing with who "brung" us, so to speak. Enjoy it, rather than trying to run it. If you had a bad
experience with Coach Fulmer, or you didn't get the access you wanted, or whatever, I'm sorry. But he is one of us. We aren't perfect, but on selected Saturday afternoons, we have been and are......as good as it gets. And with a lot of luck, some quarterback will put the ball on the ground and we will score a touchdown and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat again. Or we will beat a team like Syracuse because a penalty on fourth down kept our national championship hopes alive. Although when it happened we didn't have any realistic thoughts of a NC at that point. ...These are things I'd like to talk about. These are things I' d rather be haggling about with the negatories.......Thanks coming out. We're here all week....
mattlock writes:
Now if we can just get back to being near the top ten in a poll that counts. I'm not asking for an SEC Championship or NC, I just want to be relevant on the college football scene again. Remember when ESPN and CBS used to promote our games, remember when gameday used to be here more than once a year (if that), and remember when we never finished the season out of the top 20. Ah, the good ole days. . .I don't want Fulmer to be gone, I just don't think he should be rewarded for being average. Get us back to being more relevant than the Louisvilles and Rutgers of the world and I'll be happy.
mattlock writes:
hcjournals
I don't believe for one second that a recruit cares about what any of us say. Don't give yourself of any of us that much credit. They care about going to a program that is winning, that gets the most national media attention and can get them to "the league" We used to give them all that, now we don't. Simple really. . .
bd330794#206783 writes:
Volquest.com is reporting two commitments this morning. Anyone know who they are? I'm cheap and dont have a subscription to their site.
auttat writes:
I, for one, hope Coach Fulmer never makes a change because the FANS wanted it.
Recruits don't read the posts but Fulmer does and says..."Hey, that sounds good" or "Well, they aren't happy with this, better make a change"
My goodness, are you all serious with this phooey?
thesavageorange writes:
4* D.J. Hunter & 3* Antonio Foster commited to UT this morning.
auttat writes:
Thanks savage, always coming through with useful info and always well before KNS. But hey, good to hear Delmonico is getting paid again.
mattlock writes:
auttat, of course Fulmer doesn't read these posts. . .and he doesn't pay attention or care about what the newspapers say either. . .wait, scratch that. He shouldn't look to the fans for coaching advice, but he better care about how they feel SINCE they are paying for his raise. How much are tickets again?!?!
WorkinLikeHeck writes:
Name any coach in the last 30 years that didn't retire or was fired that went 10 years without an SEC title from what I consider the "HAVES" in the SEC...Auburn, Florida, LSU, Georgia, Alabama. Also, do you think Saban will be at Alabama if he went 10 years without an SEC title? Or Richt at UGA? or Meyer at Florida? or Miles at LSU? or Tubberville at Auburn? Tuberbille...might be able to stay but before he won the SEC in 04, he was on the semi-hot seat for not winning one year. You won't one coach that lasted 10 years without an SEC title from this group. Foolmore, meanwhile is such a great coach that he's 10 years and counting between titles.
thesavageorange writes:
sjt18, I was kinda blind sided by Hunter's commitment as well.We had to beat out His home school Ohio State for him.
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