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Tennessee football 2008: Running backs
Vols have a stable of tested runners
Tennessee tailback Arian Foster, right, races for yardage against Vanderbilt as the Commodores’ Reshard Langford gives chase. Foster, a senior, is expected to carry much of the load of UT’s offense in 2008.
Inside the running backs
POSITION COACH
- Stan Drayton
PROJECTED DEPTH CHART
- Tailbacks: Arian Foster (Montario Hardesty, Lennon Creer, Tauren Poole).
- Fullbacks: Kevin Cooper (Austin Johnson).
WATCH OUT FOR
- Creer, who led all backs with 5.9 yards per carry last season and could be the Vols’ most explosive threat.
KEY STAT
- Foster enters his senior season needing 684 yards to pass Travis Henry as UT’s all-time leading rusher.
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During spring practice, Tennessee looked like it was searching for a running back.
Younger players took the majority of snaps and absorbed the majority of hits.
But the Vols are plenty deep at tailback. And plenty proven.
Senior Arian Foster joins Jamal Lewis and Gerald Riggs as the only backs since 1998 to return following 1,000-yard seasons.
Last season, Foster nearly doubled his career rushing total and bounced back from a sluggish sophomore year with 1,193 yards on the ground.
But Foster isn't just a runner. He's an effective receiver out of the backfield, catching 39 passes for 340 yards and two touchdowns in 2007, and he has often been praised for his pass-protection skills.
"He's a guy that can run the football," offensive coordinator Dave Clawson said. "I think one of Arian's real strengths is what he does without the football as far as his ability to protect, his ability to run routes, and to me he's been a very quick learner with the offense."
Clawson is Foster's third offensive coordinator in four years at Tennessee, but he tackled the new offense in limited carries and emerged from spring practice as the clear starter.
Sophomore Lennon Creer, who rushed for 214 yards last season, and true freshman Tauren Poole took the bulk of snaps at running back in spring partly to keep Foster fresh for the fall. All those snaps in spring practice, though, could pay dividends down the road.
"A bunch of guys who were in high school a year ago that have gotten a ton of reps this spring," Clawson said. "At times it's been a painful process because they're out there for the first time in spring practice, and in a new offense, but I think their growth is something that's really going to help us as we move forward here."
Montario Hardesty, UT's second-leading rusher in 2007 with 373 yards, wants to move forward, too.
The promising junior missed most of spring practice with a lower-leg stress fracture, the latest in a string of injury-related setbacks throughout his career.
When healthy, Hardesty is an explosive, tough runner. And heading into the start of fall camp, the junior said he feels good.
"I wouldn't say it's the best I've felt, but it's as good as I've felt," he said. "I feel fast, I feel strong and everything like that. I just need to stay healthy all this year so I can be on the field and show you what I mean when I say I feel good."
If Hardesty remains healthy - admittedly a pretty big if - the Vols have a versatile backfield that can blend speed and power, along with viable threats in the passing game.
"Our goal coming from the spring is to be the best backfield in the country," Hardesty says. "I think we can do that with the people we've got. We've got all kinds of different runners, different weapons."
At fullback, which should make a comeback in UT's offense with Clawson calling plays, the Vols got productive work from sophomore Kevin Cooper and true freshman Austin Johnson. Senior David Holbert likely won't be a factor after suffering a traumatic knee injury early in spring practice.
But Foster, who needs just 684 yards to break Travis Henry's career rushing record, should be the focal point in the backfield both for Clawson's diverse play-calling and opposing defenses.
"Arian Foster, he's not a young guy," Clawson said. "He's the most proven commodity that we have back there."
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Posted by bobbarbilly on July 18, 2008 at 12:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Somebody is gonna get run over.
Posted by FWBVol on July 18, 2008 at 12:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Foster should put up monster numbers this year, and that will take some pressure off Crompton as he settles into the starting spot at quarterback...not that I'm worried about Crompton.
It sounds as if this offense is going to be fun to watch, unless you are trying to stop it.
Posted by cwisenhower on July 18, 2008 at 12:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Go Arian! Woo!
Posted by orangebloodgmc on July 18, 2008 at 12:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm glad Hardesty is getting healthier. If nothing else, he is a role model for running hard with grittiness and determination.
We got at least 4 rbs that can play. Now looking forward to seeing what the fullbacks will do.
Posted by utchris2003 on July 18, 2008 at 12:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
To change gears a little bit...
I got some info on Marlon Brown, our top prospect for next year. Last week, Hooker reported that it was going to be hard to beat out USC. I am hearing that he was not too keen on USC or UCLA and actually said Stanford was his top school on the left coast. I have also been told that he has mentioned numerous times that its going to be hard to beat out Tennessee.
Additionally, he has garnered much more attention on the basketball scene. In one game at the big Peach Tree Tournament last week he apparently shut down a player that is considered one of the top ten players in the nation for next year. Pearl apparently sent a text to his coach saying "Marlon was by far the best athlete in this tournament. I have to have this kid!"
He is saying that he will not announce until signing day, so we will have to wait on this one. I am hearing that his official visit will likely be the Florida game.
Posted by yemmusdarb on July 18, 2008 at 12:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think Arian will have around 1,200 yards this year with 9 TD's. I don't see Hardesty ever being more than a 500 yard per season running back, only because he can't seem to stay injury free. Creer and Poole are both fair RB's but most of Creer's big yardage was against weaker teams or mop up duty. I still think Coker was our best RB with pro-potential..... but oh well.
Posted by Volomatic on July 18, 2008 at 1 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't know about you guys but after watching this poole kids videos he seems like hes going to be a great RB in the 09 season hopefully we can let him mop up some blow outs this year to get some exp. Especially when we run all over florida
Posted by Kosmo on July 18, 2008 at 1:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
To be honest Volomatic, Poole might get some mop up time against Florida but not because we run over them but the other way around. Sorry thats the truth I think Florida is the best team in the nation, but Georgia is overrated. And to quote Palmeiro "Period."
Posted by brdteton on July 18, 2008 at 1:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Alright then......
Posted by gnm53108 on July 18, 2008 at 1:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
volomatic..Thats what I,m talking about.If we can establish a run game,especially in the 2nd half,to put games away we are going to make some noise this year.
Let the frost brewed koolaid flow.
Go VOLS!!!
Posted by Volomatic on July 18, 2008 at 1:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why does everyone have to reply with such negativity towards UT cant you just say lets hope so or I can't wait For us to be UT fans I think most peep's on here are full of it and just want attention anyway they can get it
Kosmo
Coming from a true Vols fan you will never ever ever in your life here me say florida is the best team in the nation you have to be out of you freakin mind
Posted by sjt18 on July 18, 2008 at 4:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Kosmo... put down the bottle.
I've said that UF is the favorite in the East and the SEC. Their O earns them that. But to be the best in the nation you have to show up on D and they didn't at all last year. If it weren't for their O, they'd have had worse statistics than UT. They were little short of awful much of the time... except against UT.
UF has a potent O. We don't know what UT has. If UT's O is very good then it will come down to D between those two teams... I like UT's chances against UF's secondary and DL right now. They have a good group of LB's though.
Posted by General_Watermelon on July 18, 2008 at 5:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Kosmo. Tennessee is the best team in the country PERIOD! Just remember. We have Fulmer. You don't!
Posted by tngeoff on July 18, 2008 at 5:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with FWBVol. Foster should have an incredible year which will really help Crompton show his stuff too. We have some potentially great wide receivers too. Our offense should be a beast. As a matter of fact...THE beast of the east...THe best conference in the good old US of A!
Posted by pdhuff on July 18, 2008 at 7:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Amen! Gen W 5:36- Clarity in the AM. Phil strikes fear into the heathern hordes we shall dispatch on our way to the Grail.
That said, someone tell us how many carries Foster had last year.
And what is the over/under for how many snaps Hardesty gets before is is injured?
We need loooooong sustained drives.
I would imagine the number of free games ball in row 31 will be down by 70%.
Posted by GreerVol22 on July 18, 2008 at 7:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
pd...its likely that Hardesty will pull a "dam" getting on the elevator in UCLA just prior to the game.
dam=dumb AZZ muscle
Posted by ThurmondEppy on July 18, 2008 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Nice article. Hopefully KNS will do one like this on each of the team's positions.
Posted by cjraney on July 18, 2008 at 7:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
pd-
Didn't realize Ainge could get the ball all the way up to Row 31 last year.
Posted by vol98champ on July 18, 2008 at 7:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
How often does the favorite in the east win the division? Wasn't Tennessee picked 3rd last year? What happened to Warren and Williams? Shouldn't both of those guys contribute this year? Predictions are like pie crust; likely to crumble, but this could be a good year for the vols.
Posted by pdhuff on July 18, 2008 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
cjraney 7:35 - just hope Ainge's wounded ducks aren't replaced by fluttering punts netting, say, 14 yards or so.
Posted by mparker on July 18, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
okay, here goes...
Foster is a 'decent' rb. I agree with brad, Coker was the best we had. Hardesty has never impressed me much, no moves.
We gotta go back to a couple of points:
-Crompton has to pass well enough to open the run game
-the o-line has to block better in the run game.
I'm thinking we will still struggle to run the ball.
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uf or uga....
I agree UGA is overrated. their best weapon is the RB (can't think of his name), that kid is a super player. Stafford has not impressed me much.
both uf and uga had some really bad defensive games last year, and some really good ones. however, they were not consistant.
Which brings me to....LSU. yeah, they lost 8 million starters. they just always seem to have so much talent, even in down years. saban/miles have both recruited well. I'm not saying to pick LSU, but I sure as hell am not overlooking them.
Posted by Sheepscape on July 18, 2008 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Arian is very effective. He needs to hang on to the football better...looking for Creer to provide some changeup in the running game.
Posted by tngeoff on July 18, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
SEC!!!!!!
http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story....
Bama Babes:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mC7kHdVZ8io
Posted by tngeoff on July 18, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bama robics:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yWND2ofepY...
Posted by Hopson2008 on July 18, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Can't wait to see Foster and Hardesty run all over the Bruins in person at the Rose Bowl. I'm predicting a wheel route to Foster on the first play (see Kentucky game 2007). Does anyone know the status of Brandon Warren and Gerald Williams?
Posted by GoshDarnGoodFootballPlayer on July 18, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think Foster can go for 1,200 yards on the ground this year. From what Clawson has said, it wouldn't totally surprise me if he got about 1,600 all purpose yards.
Hate to say it, but it's time to move Hardesty to the backburner and let Creer and Poole get in reps as the back-up.
If, and it's a big if, we can get back to 175 yards a game on the ground, we'll contend in the East.
Posted by Greyback_Vol on July 18, 2008 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
While the success of UT's new offense depends heavily on how quickly the players grasp the system and how well Crompton plays, Foster MUST get the ball in order for the offense to click.
Let's do the math: a well-rounded senior tailback (1,100 yds and 12 tds in '07, plus 39 catches) + an offensive line that returns all 5 starters + an inexperienced, but talented, QB. The coaches are insane if Foster doesn't get a huge number of carries this year.
Also, I really believe Lennon Creer is going to surpass Hardesty for the #2 tailback spot. Creer can fly, and Hardesty just can't stay healthy.
Looking forward to see what Clawson does with the fullbacks. Hopefully it will involve the big boys going out for an occasional play-action pass.
Posted by Sheepscape on July 18, 2008 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Heck, given the lack of productive play for our fullbacks over the last few years, I will be happy if they can just block.
Posted by richvol on July 18, 2008 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This is the week we were to hear if Brandon Warren is eligible.What about it Kaplan...any news?
Posted by tngeoff on July 18, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sadly, we haven't used a fullback very well since Will Revel quit the team. He could run, block and catch passes. He was a very big strong (set a couple of weight lifting records) guy with great speed and acceleration.
Posted by General_Watermelon on July 18, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yea Kappy - what's the skinny on Warren?
Posted by Sheepscape on July 18, 2008 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
tngeoff,
Will Revel or Will Bartholomew?
Posted by mikevol on July 18, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Talented OL + Solid running backs = 10+ wins. I believe the lack of a RB's will be Fla's down fall.
Posted by marc_ash on July 18, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mparker,
Good points. The GA running back is Noshawn "don't call me Dan" Moreno.
The D for both FL and GA was suspect last season. The way the year ended for FL and GA didn't exactly prove much in the way of forcasts for the next season for either of them. FL getting pistol whipped by a very mediocre Michigan team and GA wiping up the floor with Hawaii high.
If there is ANY year where the stars are in place for a dominant running game, it should be this year. Experience and talent should mesh, as long as Clawson's system is easily picked up.
Goshdarn,
Not sure Foster will get 1600 all purpose or even close to 1200 yards this season. I think he will have a lot of touches, but Clawson's system calls for so many folks to be involved, I think the ball will be spread around a lot...a bit too much to give Foster those kinds of #'s
Posted by GoshDarnGoodFootballPlayer on July 18, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
marc -
Clawson said he wants a 3,000 yard passer, a 1,000 yard receiver, and a 1,000 yard rusher. I really think they are going to use his as a workhorse this year. Could be wrong, but just what I see.
Posted by miamiVOL on July 18, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
B.Warren and G.Williams status will not be unknown until early August, they both appear to be green lit.
Hardesty is a fantastic back that cant beat the injury bug, but hopefully he can finish this season healthy, if he doesnt, there is no way he can be our #1 next yr so might as well let Creer (a near 5 star stud, 6.0 Rivals Rating) get some QUALITY snaps at RB
I expect A.Foster to carry the load, especially early, apparently he has dropped a few LBS this season in an effort to be more explosive, but he just needs to concentrate on just HITTIN DA HOLE instead of his east/west dancing that he tends to do, from time to time.
Posted by tngeoff on July 18, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sheepscape.
Will Bartholomew was a great player...Will Revill (I misspelled it above) could have been...but quit the team. In a few games he played in he hit like a truck, ran with speed and conviction and hauled in some impressive passes. Sadly, he decided to quit and told Coach Fulmer he was going to quit the team to pursue religious stuff but faded into oblivion.
Posted by Sheepscape on July 18, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
tngeoff,
Gotcha. I knew he left the team early, but was foggy on the specifics...I am of the opinion our last truly effective fb was Bartholomew.
Posted by tngeoff on July 18, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sheepscape.
You are correct. Sadly, when Revill left David Holbert was coming in and then he had a bunch of injuries...but he looked destined to be a great fullback. Then we seemed to dissolve the position. I may be old fashioned, but I think a great fullback is a tremendous asset to ANY offense. Maybe with these new coaches we'll see the position rise again. I hope so!
Posted by chad_t31 on July 18, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
There is no reason this offense shouldn't put up 30 every saturday....and labor day too!
Posted by Brama on July 18, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Foster is a hard runner but needs to be 2 steps faster!
Posted by vol4gzus on July 18, 2008 at 9:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Creer had a problem with keeping the handle on the ball. Check carries to fumbles ratio. I don't remember the numbers or have not looked up. Just seems that he fumbled about four times in his short stint last year. I'm sure (hope) that has been addressed in the offseason and other scrimmages.
Posted by jhayes1911 on July 18, 2008 at 10:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Has anyone heard of Shawn Bryson...?
Posted by volguy41nlouisiana on July 18, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mparker......I unfortunately am stuck here in Bayou land...and LSU is getting a little of the UT bug as of late....they just had a a6'6 300lb offensive lineman kicked off the teamfor undisclosed reasons....appears their qb is a transfer from an ivy league school....(not too many happy people down here).....its a cycle in the SEC...LSU has been awesome for bout 5 years....now...they are gonna suffer i beleive....couple years they arent gonna be what they were....just as I think UT will be on the up....Crompton brings scrambling ability that we havent had since T Martin....(oh yeah....he did pretty well didnt he)lol...with a good running game...some blocking ....I think we are gonna shock college football....(all this said without one sip of the koolaid...)..its all there for the taking...and I think we TAKE this year....GO VOLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Posted by tngeoff on July 18, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
jhayes1911.
Yup. Great player as well! Tough, hard hitting and fast! Just what we need to supplement our traditional type running backs.
Posted by atl4canes on July 18, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tn. is building on depth and more depth while teams like UGA are getting all the press because of some kid they think is the next Hershel. Vols are my SEC and national dark horse.
Oh, and Stafford.....
Posted by Sheepscape on July 18, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bryson was a converted tailback as I recall. Do we have someone we might consider doing the same with?
Posted by GoVol on July 18, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
With this depth we should be able to keep fresh legs in the game at all times. Foster tends to tire easily and since he's not a speedster hopefully Clawson will substitute frequently.
Posted by marc_ash on July 18, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Goshdarn,
If Clawson said what you are saying he did, then maybe I'm wrong. My thoughts are he wanted to get the ball into his "playmakers" hands. As i understand this will be mainly his workhorses, I would imagine that folks like Taylor, Foster, Hardesty (if healthy), Crompton, Jones and maybe even Berry would all get touches in this system. With that mentality, it would be interesting getting the numbers he wanted.
I wouldn't argue with Foster getting 1000 yards...but the 1600 all purpose with the 1200 rushing would be a stretch IMO.
Posted by 94VOL on July 18, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tailback is going to be our strength and back bone for the first few games. This is fine with me because it should give the rest of the O time to get the new system down. UCLA will have trouble stopping our power and speed.
If these guys hold onto the ball early we should be fine!!!!!
Posted by 99gator on July 18, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
since everyone seems to be on a kool-aid high.....
give me five reasons why tenn will be the sec champion or make a bcs bowl in 2008.
Posted by TommyJack on July 18, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Brama 9:48: Yeah, and people in hell need ice-water. Foster is a very capable back. What he needed most was to be cut loose from Cut's offense.
Posted by General_Watermelon on July 18, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
#1 Phil Fulmer
#2 Phil Fulmer
#3 Phil Fulmer
#4 Phil Fulmer
#5 Orange Kool-aid taste good
Posted by General_Watermelon on July 18, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99gator - Vols plan to win it all in 08 just like in 98. Mark it down.
Posted by tngeoff on July 18, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99gator.
I for one can clearly state kool-aid is a non factor for me. What I'm talking about here is offense. I think you even have commented about what we could see with our offense in 2008. That doesn't have anything to do with our achilles heel...defensive front. If we win anything Championship wise I'll be thrilled...but I'm bettin' we field and exciting offense that scores plenty and if the defense plays well..well..we might just be the surprise team in the east.
Posted by marc_ash on July 18, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99,
Although you are welcome here...using the Kool-aid analogy is reserved for Vol fan's.
Can you give me 5 reasons UF will do the same besides tebow and a wounded harvin?
Posted by VolGraduate on July 18, 2008 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
(1) fl blows it load against ut every year and will lose multiple league games
(2) ga is overrated
(3) goon squad
(4) clawson
(5) arian foster
we've been knocking on the door for 10 years and this team is ready to kick it down. put the women and children to sleep come sept 1
Posted by 99gator on July 18, 2008 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
tngeoff
tenn's offense can be very good. but, there is a lot of unknown. there is a lot to be optimistic about with the new coordinator and new qb. but, even if those things turn out to be good, i don't like tenn's weapons at the skill positions.
marc ash
1. schedule
2. depth
3. the o-line and d-line
4. the down year for most offenses in the SEC.
5. lots and lots of playmakers on offense and special teams
Posted by marc_ash on July 18, 2008 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99,
Reason #1-A new system that will make UT less predictable. The Vols sport a spread offense that will be very difficult to figure out. Like FL under Meyer in his first season.
Reason #2-A mobile QB. Although lacking a lot of experience, Crompton is mobile and will create difficulties for defenses this season. No longer do teams only need to prepare for a drop back QB, but someone who can make plays with his legs should the play break down.
Reason #3- The O line. UT brings back one of the nations best O lines with another year of experience under their belts. With new blocking schemes and the success they've had protecting their QB's, the O will have ample time to make things happen.
Reason #4- The running backs. Foster is poised to have a big season. And other backs will get their hands on the ball often. If Hardesty can stay healthy, there could be a 1-4 punch that could include Creer and Poole.
Reason #5- Expectations. Expectations are low this season from others in the SEC and also the media. Last season, UT was picked 3rd behind FL and GA. This season, UT can't even get a winning spread from Vegas over SC. UT plays very well when expectations of their season are low. Everyone is looking at GA and the golden boys of FL. With a new OC, new QB and no BSC bowl for a years....nobody expects this to be the year.
Posted by VolGraduate on July 18, 2008 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99g,
you must not keep up with the vols as much as you pretend. you will see the weapons come sept.
Posted by mikes70gto on July 18, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
1.Defense
2.Offense
3.Fulmer
4.Clawson
5.Fl's D is still suspect
Posted by 99gator on July 18, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
marc ash
fair enough.
the offensive line will be an interesting thing to follow throughout the year.
i don't know how good they are truthfully. they did not pancake people in the run game and they did not pass block for more than half a second.
was it cutcliffe's system or are there problems up front?
i don't know. most of y'all seem to believe it was cutcliffe so i will take your word for it.
one of the many reasons i think cutcliffe is and was way way way overated.
Posted by law_vol on July 18, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99gator - You don't have to be on Kool-aid to think that Tenn has a chance at the SEC championship next year.
Tenn was there last year with a chance to win, so its not crazy talk to think Tenn (or any other SEC East team) has a better shot at beating a seemingly down SEC West.
Tenn will be a better team than last year. Learning a new offense isn't necessarily a factor, because Tenn had to learn Cuts new no-huddle offense and did ok (ie-won enough games to stay in the mix and get to the SEC CG). Crompton will be good enough to at least be effective (Tee Martin being steady, effective and mobile gave us the chances we had in 1998).
So the only question is whether UGA's butt-kicking of Hawaii is really a harbinger of things to come, and if FL's defense can get its act together, because either one of those teams will only be marginally better, if at all, than last year on offense (can't improve too much when you are already operating at a high level).
Posted by tngeoff on July 18, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
One thing I do find amazing...and in general 99gator is usually less controversial...but guys who come here strictly to flame Tennessee always score and score big. It's kinda odd.
Posted by General_Watermelon on July 18, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
In all seriousness, I think Tennessee is going to surprise a lot of people this year. I went to the O&W Game expecting not to see much. I came away with more than I bargained for in terms of how good they looked. They looked bad the year before in the O&W Game - really bad. This year, a few things really stood out:
1) Crompton was incredibly impressive passing to the point of looking ALL-SEC. Same time last year, I thought he barely looked like a Div 1 talent. He made one bad IT late in the game. Before that he looked really impressive with reads, mobility, timing, release, and finding secondary receivers.
2) The Defensive Ends - more speed at that position than I have seen in quite some time which should help Chavis' defensive attack style of play.
Martin will be the man before the season is over. Mark it down.
3) The secondary is the BEST in the country. PERIOD. Morely and Berry will flat knock your head off. I remember once turning to my buddy saying, easy Morely....same team. He nearly took the WR's head off.
4) I like how much muscle we have up front on the offensive side of the ball. I like our speed and really like that we have Foster who will be fighting to break TN records and land big in the NFL.
5) Most of the talent on this team (skill positions) were Freshmen last year and they are a year older, stonger, wiser, and dangerous.
6) Clawson offense will be more creative than Cutcliffe's. You could see more imagination even in the vanilla O&W game. Play makers should really benefit from this offense.
* My only question mark on this team is the Defensive Line. I like that that we have Seniors (even Bolden if he can keep is grades up) even if they are only average, but I am concerned with the depth. I like our linebackers speed and skill to fill the holes quickly, but can UT go that far without a stellar defensive line?
Posted by marc_ash on July 18, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99gator
Lets be clear here....Crompton isn't "new" in the sense of not knowing what is going on. He's been at UT for what seems 9 years and has been tested in some hostile environments. He will be ready and will make some noise. Nobody seemed to have an issue with Tebow coming in being the guy, and he had less experience than Crompton.
I'm sure gator fans didn't like TN's weapons at skill positions last year...and they made it to the SECCG. Like it or not, the WR's were very successful last season as was Foster. This season, we have all the pieces of the "skill positions" coming back, with some new wrinkles. Do we have a Harvin to blow the doors off? No, but it takes more than 1 or 2 players to make a difference.
I think the main think FL has going for them is their schedule. Other than UT and GA, its a cake walk....the weakest I've seen a FL team have in years.
Lets see how well FL's defense can stop folks. IF they do well at that, they have a chance.
Although you say there are a lot of unknowns with a new OC,QB, etc remember....FL had those things a few years back and won a NC.
Don't forget, we have Drayton...who will also prepare us a lot better for Fl's system than in years past.
Posted by 99gator on July 18, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
all
i joke about the "kool aid" high not because you all expect to contend for the sec title....but, that every part of the team is going to be awesome.
the offensive line is awesone (did not knock anyone off the ball last year except georgia). the secondary is the best in the country (could not cover anyone last season). the qb will be better than ainge (hasn't proven anything yet), clawson is going to be our next head coach (hasn't coached a day at a division 1 school yet), etc, etc, etc.
it would be like me expecting the florida defense to be awesome (which i don't). better, yes. awesome, no. how good. have no idea until they prove it.
Posted by law_vol on July 18, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99 - you overexagerate as usual. Tenn fans don't think that every part of the team is going to be awesome, because I bet you can't find one person that thinks the LB's and DL will be awesome. Every part of the team doesn't have to be awesome for fans to get excited about the chances to have a successful season. Again, not awesome last year, and Tenn pulled a rabbit out of its hat and beat UGA, and then was an EA INT away from maybe winning the SECCG and going to a BCS bowl.
Posted by DennisVols on July 18, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It will be an offense like we have not seen. Clawson will get the playmakers, be it Foster, Hardesty, Creer, Poole or our receiving corps into open spaces and let they run. No longer will we see run up the middle, run up the middle, short pass, punt.
This offense will keep every defense guessing. It will give you the same look twice but do different things. Sometimes out wide, sometimes up the middle and sometimes long.
Foster will have over 1,000 yds rushing and don't be surprised if he totals over 2,000 counting receiving yards. Watch for UT to start out running against University of Cal Loses Alot and then exploit their inexperienced defensive backfield by sending the receivers long and crossing Foster over the middle with a play-action pass. Spread em out and then run it down their throat.
UF will look at the tapes from the UCLA and UAB games and will determine that they must expect any and everything unlike years past when conservative wasl our only play.
30 points will be an off week for this team and the 2nd half of the game could and should be more explosive than the first as the defense will wear down reacting to this wide open attack.
Keeping it Real
GO Vols!!!!!
Posted by volwalk on July 18, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99,
1.Low expectations from the media.
2.Experienced backfield, O-line and receivers.
3.One of the most talented and experienced secondaries in the country. Linebacking corp better than average as well as the D-line.
4.We owe a whipping to FL and UA...both games are at Neyland..Favorable Schedule.
5.New Offensive Coordinator with a mobile QB. Crompton is a gamer and may not put up some of the numbers that Ainge did...but Crompton will be a better QB in the crunch. JoCro will give us our first SEC Championship in 10 years and will take us back to a BCS game.
GO VOLS!!!
Posted by marc_ash on July 18, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99,
In fairness you are correct about the O line and their blocking...they really didn't have to block much longer than a second or two with Ainge getting rid of the ball so quickly. However, I don't think teams will be able to blitz with effectiveness given the options available in the spread formation.
Cut implemented a system IMO that fit the talent on the field. He had a QB that wasn't mobile and worked within the system he had. He isn't overrated for his style.
I feel UT had some question marks over the years, and Cut had a mess on his hands after Sanders left. I am thankful for him reviving the O...it should be revived on crack now.
Posted by 99gator on July 18, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
law_vol
understood.
i just think some of the things people here seem to be question marks as opposed to sure things.
crompton is an example. to me, he's a question mark. which is not say he won't be a good player or have a good year. only, that he is an unknown commodity. people assume he will be better this year than erik ainge last year.....and i don't think that's a safe assumption.
there are other examples. there are lots of questions. and maybe tennessee will have all the answers. but, i don't know.
Posted by volguy41nlouisiana on July 18, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99gator...thats not koolaid talk...its just pure optimisma and love for ones team....we all know that we arent gonna be "awesome" everywhere....but then again...we have alot to be optimistic about.....table kicking..hair pulling....cat throwing play calling by an OC last year...(now being replaced by some young ...fresh blood)...YEAH...there isnt a UT fan around that isnt fired up to see what Clawson has....but to think we THINK were gonna be perfect....NAHHHHHH...we just hate FLORIDA....LOL...and talk the most trash to you....we respect....but goddddddd...do we hate you...so understand...we love our team ..as you do yours....and this is our site....so the orange love will flow
Posted by marc_ash on July 18, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What makes me excited about whats to come for Vol football is the recruiting talent we are starting to get in. Folks are looking at UT for some reason! You would think, having a school with as many changes as UT has had over the past few years, some recruits would have reservations. However, something is selling these young men to commit to UT early....hell, Nunes committed without even seeing the campus.
IMO, Clawson's system excites recruits. Something about it makes players say "yea, I want to go to UT". I think it is probably similar to what Meyer was able to do at FL when he arrived.
Posted by law_vol on July 18, 2008 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
McBrim - Crompton didn't play against the first team defense in the O&W game. Even so, he had zip on the ball, recognized routes and knew where to put it, and generally looked strong. Of course, spring games are not all that telling.
99 - also, blue ribbon analysis grades Tenn better than FL, even if it doesn't pick us ahead of FL in the East.
Posted by General_Watermelon on July 18, 2008 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99 gator - what you don't realize about the secondary was that Morely wasn't back there (grades) last year and Berry was a Freshmen and making a lot of mistakes early but by the end of the season was named a Freshmen ALL-American - I think he ran a TD back on Tebow. Remember? Rogan - is extremely dangerous and has been clocked very near Harvin's time (4.2 40) he is just one of many emerging stars with lightening speed.
I'll give you the argument on the OL. They are stronger than any unit in the country but can they get it done up front? They were not exactly impressive last year except in pass protection last season and a lot of that was Ainge throwing the ball quickly to the stands. Still, I know what I saw in the O&W Game, and I'm telling you, Florida better not underestimate this team.
Posted by DennisVols on July 18, 2008 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99gator
Every team has questions that will only be answered at the end of the season.
Questions for the gatos include
1) Tebow got his shoulder injured last season and it cost UF their shot at the SEC. Once a shoulder is injured like that it is much eaiser to happen again.
What adjustments will Meyers make and how can that not be a negitive for UF
2) Harvin's foot injury will affect his running ability. I know the reports say healing fine and ahead of schedule but the fact is there will always be a scar there and the next time could end his season. You know his cuts won't be as sharp so it will be easier for defense's to take shots at him.
3) UF has not had any running backs. The kid that transfered from USC did not impress Meyers and his work habits are a concern. Without a strong runing back performance it puts a lot of pressure on both Tebow and Harvin and as before both have potential injury problems.
GA rattled UF last year. It doesn't matter if you agree with or disaggre with what Richt let his team do when they scored the TD the outcome worked.
UF's offense can score but their defense gives up too many points against good offenses. They could not even stop Mich. That has to be a concern when playing against the elite teams in the SEC.
Posted by VolFanInAtl on July 18, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Am I the only one that is irritated by the fact that ESPN and Yahoo have Georgia listed above us in the SEC East in 2007? HELLO! WE WON THE EAST!
We darn near won the SEC!
This article makes me worry about how good we will be if Foster gets hurt.
Posted by VolGraduate on July 18, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mcbrim:
it's been a long time comin and a change is gonna come.
sincerely,
sam cooke
Posted by law_vol on July 18, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mcbrim - I find you misplaced sarcasm entertaining. Didn't I just admit that spring games are not that telling? However, on the other hand, it doesn't take a QB playing against the 1st Defense to be able to generally assess how his fundamental skills are developing. Back to my earlier comment, Crompton will at least be able to effectively lead the offense, even if he doesn't blow the doors off and get heisman consideration. A steady, dependable offense with an improved defense will make some noise. How much noise does remain to be seen.
Posted by General_Watermelon on July 18, 2008 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sure Crompton is a question mark, but I guarantee anyone who saw him in the O&W Game came away going WOW! His backups were far less impressive to be honest. What impressed me about JC was his reads, his picking up secondary receivers, the speed in which he was getting the ball released, and the accuracy of the throws. He may fall apart against 1st team SEC defenses, but I am much more confident than I was before I attended the Spring Game. JC loks like he is for real!
Posted by marc_ash on July 18, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99,
I suppose Crompton is a question mark. However, last year Tebow was a huge question mark...could he throw the football?
I don't think people "assume he will be better than ainge", but he will definitely be better in this system than he was in Cuts IMO. You won't be able to compare the 2 different styles, but I do think Crompton is the best fit for the O that will be run.
Nobody thinks UT will have all the answers...there are a lot of question marks, no doubt. But there are also a lot of factors that are in place for success.
Posted by General_Watermelon on July 18, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
One thing is for sure. Clawson's offense will be far less predictable. That alone has UT fans excited.
Posted by GoshDarnGoodFootballPlayer on July 18, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mark -
I just have this gut feeling we're going to rely heavily on Foster. Don't know why.
Posted by marc_ash on July 18, 2008 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
goshdarn,
That would make sense. We relied heavily on him last season and he will be making a push to break the rushing record.
I am hopeful that other play makers will get involved. The system is in place for that to happen...just need to see if it translates onto the field.
Posted by zanebreeding on July 18, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with tngeoff , Will Revill was a beast. I knew the guy while i was in school , actually had a few classes with him. They had some pretty big plans for him , offensively. I mean he came in as a LB and they immeduately got him over to FB , i was looking forward to seeing him in the future. I think when he left so did our athletic fullback theme. He was always a little strange though , seemed to be a very impressionable young guy , kind of naive , if thats how you spell it. Oh well , he probably wishes he would have stuck with it now.
Posted by auttat on July 18, 2008 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
general, you on med's today? That's the tdtn I grew to love, bro!!
Posted by volwalk on July 18, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Easy mcbrim,
We realize that JoCro hasn't proven anything, yet. We are simply speculating that there won't be a big drop off at the QB position and it may end up being an upgrade. The OL, Receivers and Backfield has another year of experience. JoCro is very intelligent and is learning the new system. He is mobile and has a strong arm. JoCro will be able to spread the ball around better than Ainge, because he can throw it down the field. Last year, Ainge had an injury that enabled him to throw the deep ball with accuracy.
In conclusion, nobody here is claiming that JoCro is the next Peyton Manning. What we are saying is that based on what we have seen so far is he has the tools neccessary to lead his team to a SEC championship. Crompton is surrounded by talented experience that will carry him through the first half of the year and then he will come into his own in the second half. T Martin wasn't as good a passer as Peyton Manning but he was able to ride the talent that surrounded him...Also the mobility that T possessed helped his offense to keep the chains moving. Go JoCro!
Posted by General_Watermelon on July 18, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mcbrim1998 - I'm not underestimating the Gators, but I like the fact that the game will be a revenge game and in our house. We've got players who are lifting harder than they ever have using the Florida and Alabama game as inspiration. I think you will see a completely different Tenn team this Sept. I promise you one thing. Your boys will not be hit this hard all season. I can't wait until Morely and Berry light up one of your heralded receivers coming across the middle. If you are at the game and hear "SWEEP HIM UP" as they carry your boys off the field - that will be me. F#%* the Gators!
Posted by RichRollin on July 18, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Mcrimm, does Florida not have their spring game against their 2nd string d-fence? And if not then your D is pathetic!! Was that not a 2nd stringer that smashed Moody and made him fumble at the goal line? General, I agree with your 10:52 post. Depth is my #1 concern as well but the starters on our D-line are gonna be awesome! Crompton showed both touch and strength with his arm. Actually he threw a few laser beams, hard to believe he had particles floating in his elbow. Plus look how we finished last year, good 2nd half and nice bowl victory. Look how Florida ended 2nd half, getting a55 kicked by nearly everyone and getting spanked in bowl game. People underestimate how much the bowl game and how you end can carry into the next year.
Posted by law_vol on July 18, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tenn is not overlooking UCLA, and will be ready and focused to put the team's best foot forward this season. Head to head, there is a good argument to be made that Tenn will have the upper hand, which means that in addition to a new look and better position play against FL, at home, after Urban Meyer went for it on fourth down in his own territory in the second half up by more than two touchdowns, Tenn will have some early confidence to make it a game (lost opener to Cal last year).
Posted by RichRollin on July 18, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
General, I'm with you F*^! FLORIDA!! Were General and I the only 2 at the O/W game or did everyone else see it?? The way Berry and Morley scan and cover the field is really special, gonna be hard to throw on them dudes. I tried not to get to hyped, figured I was seeing things through Orange shades. Good to here Generals comments, now I know what I saw was true. Hey Mcbrimm, you had better tell Emanuel Moody to carry the ball in the correct hand or he's gonna fumble alot more once he meets Mr.Berry, Mr. Bolden, and MR.MCCOY!!!!
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on July 18, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
How do you get a Gayter cheerleader into your dorm room?
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on July 18, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Grease her hips and puuuusssshhhh!!!
Posted by RichRollin on July 18, 2008 at 12:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Don't know.?.?
Posted by marmotman on July 18, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Jon's ability to stretch the field will be the biggest area of improvement of our offense. Safeties out of the box = more running room. IMO our offensive line took more of the blame than it deserved last year b/c it was matched up against 8 and 9 in the box.
On defense, Mayo is a huge loss, but Ellix Wilson seems capable and the overall athleticism is improved with Karl graduating. While he was good in pass coverage, fast, and very smart, he was playing at about 210lb last year and often was swallowed up by the OL. Don't expect Florida to single out one player to run at like they did last year.
Posted by RJ_Vol on July 18, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Florida game last year = rear view mirror
Florida game this year = in front of us
I hope UF continues to live in last year's game - just like Arkansas did. Last year's score won't win this year's game. I really think Urban thought Fulmer would be fired after hanging 59 pts on him. Instead, he has to face him again this year. Obviously, I don't know who will win, but I know who I expect to win - the Volunteers! This I can tell you, UF will leave knowing they played a football game. Has anyone noticed how quiet the team has been in the off-season? I always worry when UT plays a team that doesn't say a word and is all about business. In this case, I think the quiet team is us. In any case, UF will have 107,000 screaming UT fans ready to welcome them to the new and improved Neyland Stadium. Jon Crompton was born a Volunteer. I believe that's why he came here. He understands the rivalry and will play accordingly.
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on July 18, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm with you guys when you say F_uck Florida, but I wouldn't put too much stock in that O & W performance. The practices leading up to the O & W game weren't exactly stellar. We are going to be a good team this year, but we need to make a lot of progress this summer and when practice starts back up if we are going to win the SEC. That being said, I think our boys can play with any team in the country. USC, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Georgia, and Florida all put their britches on one leg at a time just like we do. They can all be beat.
Running backs look real good this year. Foster is going to be hungry to prove to the NFL scouts that he is a sure thing first rounder and he'll want to go out with a bang. What I really want to see is some production from Creer and to see him get a fair share of carries also.
Posted by Volchaz on July 18, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This time last year, "PinkyGate" came about, and we suffered against UCLA. Crompton is going into this thing healthy, and believe that he has every reason to shine.
Posted by chrslyp on July 18, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
that damn pinky and those asss backwards handoffs.
Posted by GatorHater326 on July 18, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
guess my screen name: blah blah blah blah.... tebow is my man lover .... kindest regards.
and number two: The proliferation of the outstanding caliber of players that Urban all Mighty has brought upon the great state of Florida suggests that all attempts from the rest of the SEC will be futile... WE are perfect in all aspects of the game except defense in which we will be much improved .... oh yeah Tennessee isn't too bad...
keep the watering hole safe... kill a gator!!
Posted by GatorHater326 on July 18, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
come on now ashley... they did well against the mamby panzy Big 2 1/2 Michigan team, then again App. State beat them.... oh wait... you're kidding me..... they didn't win that one... Oh well I tried...
Kindest Regards
Posted by orangebloodgmc on July 18, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DaddyVol, I was at the O&W game and also noted 1) Crompton zipping that ball like it was laser-guided, and 2)Wes Brown coming off the edge so fast, it left me wondering if he could really be that fast or was he guessing the count or was the OT that slow (don't think so).
Also was impressed with the hard running and explosive bursts thru the hole of Creer and Poole.
Lastly, thought I saw some good plays from Chris Donald, but again not sure who the competition was at the time.
Posted by givehim6 on July 18, 2008 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Anyway, 1 little post on the running game,which i think will be great with Foster and some good fresh legs from help from 2 good backs and 1 good back ( as long as he stays healhy). But we need that short yard runner for 2nd & 7/8 or 3ed & 9.
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on July 18, 2008 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Our running backs total yardage vs. Florida's D the last 2 years combined is 26 yards (-11 in 2006 and 37 yards in 2007). Yawn.
Posted by longtimefan on July 18, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
amazing isnt it? if not for fumble/muffed handoff, we're still in that game!
Posted by orangebloodgmc on July 18, 2008 at 2:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
True, longtime but we also can't give up any more cheap kick return scores to them. Its all doable.
Posted by 99gator on July 18, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
the game in 2007 was lost in the 1st qtr when tenn had the ball on florida's side of the field the whole quarter and trailed at the end of the 1st qtr 14-3.
Posted by longtimefan on July 18, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Different game this year! no cheap stuff for Gutters! if they want it this year, they'll have to earn it!
Posted by TurboFan on July 18, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Workin, what was the RB rushing totals for those games if you subtract (add?) out the QB rushing (sack) yards?
One thing nobody is talking about is special teams, the biggest worry last year. Sure Lincoln has proven accurate but not for distance either on FGs or KOs, and Cunningham is more than a question mark.
Posted by longtimefan on July 18, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
only way flooradore can win is get a big lead! when it comes to smashmouth ftball,they wilt like little flowers!
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on July 18, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Turbo...it's still not good. Remember we only gave up 4 sacks last year.
Posted by gwaidley on July 18, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I hear both of UCLA's starting OTs are out, in addition of course to their QB sitution. Of yeah, and their suspended strong safety. I want me a Bruin.
Go Vols!!
Posted by GatorHater326 on July 18, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DC said:
who gives a Sh@t what DC said he's a gator fan...
His opinions are like tits on a bore hog they don't make much sense and are pretty much useless...
kindest regards via lickrim.
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on July 18, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Too bad my Mom has never had to work. Working at Shoney's? LOL!!!!!
Posted by 99gator on July 18, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
turbofan
37 yards on 21 carries in 2007 (there were no sacks)
16 yards on 19 carries in 2006 (with the sack yardage removed)
Posted by GatorHater326 on July 18, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sure she has workin' prostitution is the oldest known occupation ... it's considered work
kindest regards
Posted by 99gator on July 18, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
longtime
florida has beaten tennessee every way that you can.
they even beat tennessee by using the thoroughly getting outplayed approach in 2000. tennessee beat the snot out florida and florida still won the game.
Posted by GatorHater326 on July 18, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
they've also used the pay off the ref way... see the phantom catch in Neyland ...
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on July 18, 2008 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Florida owns Foolmore....5 and 12 vs. the Gators. Majors couldn't beat Bama (4-12) vs. them and Foolmore can't beat the Gators (5-12). Foolmore should send Zook a Christmas card because had it not been for those 3 years and 2 wins, Foolmore's record would be even worse.
Posted by 99gator on July 18, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
gatorhater
we're even on the whole referee deal. in 2004, a referee standing two feet away from dallas baker and a tennessee player (staring right at them) saw the tennessee player hit baker in the head and baker hit the tennessee player back.
flagged florida for 15 yards.
then did not wind the clock after the play.....making wilhoit's game winning field goal possible. the extra time and 15 yards allowed tennessee to win.
sec even admitted to the mistake regarding the clock.
Posted by GatorHater326 on July 18, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sweet it worked ... bwah ha ha ha ha sorry gentlemen excuse me gentleman as 99 is probably the only one worth the title... however it's still football season and you're still florida fans so anything you say has absolutely no bearing on this board... and everyone is used to workin's crap, he's kinda like a stray we can't get rid of ... we ignore till we want to argue for a while .... then we respond to his ignorance... for the record... it's not that the opinions you have or comments you post aren't true or contain no facts... it's just football season and you're cheering for the wrong team...
Posted by DennisVols on July 18, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
On CSS right now they are replaying the '06 UT-LSU game. Crompton was the QB in that game and even with his limited practice time with the 1st string offense you see somethings that will shock some defenses this year. The biggest thing will be the rate in which the ball gets to the receivers. Crompton just threw his first TD pass in this game threading the pass through several defenders to the back of the endzone to Mech. What a laser throw. No wasted airtime and right into the receiver.
By the end of this season we are going to wonder why this kid was not given the leadership role before. He shows toughness even then being put in the mix in a major contest with limited practice time. He kept UT in that game and with some better tackeling by our defense we would have won.
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on July 18, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This ironoically is Foolmore's fault as well.
Posted by orangebloodgmc on July 18, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Its funny to see multiple gator fans who feel such a desperate need to go to a TENNESSEE site and so desperately try to put their own spin on good news items about TENNESSEE. Won't help 'em. We're loaded. They're sweatin'. See ya in September.
Posted by Sheepscape on July 18, 2008 at 3:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I hope Crompton is the real deal. I know people like the effort he put up against LSU and Arkansas, but let's face some facts. He was less than 50% completion in those two games and threw 2 touchdowns in each game. That's good, but not great...and one of those TD's in the Arky game was with a junk score with literally seconds on the clock. His mop up duty since those games really wasn't spectacular, although I imagine the gameplan was pretty vanilla at that point.
I hope that with more time in the program he has matured greatly because it won't be facing the secondary he did in the spring game. I don't think Coleman or Stephens is ready yet so let's all keep our fingers crossed for Jon.
Posted by auttat on July 18, 2008 at 3:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Its funny to see multiple gator fans who feel such a desperate need to go to a TENNESSEE site and so desperately try to put their own spin on good news items about TENNESSEE. Won't help 'em. We're loaded. They're sweatin'. See ya in September."
orangebloodgmc, this site wins awards, why wouldn't they come on here?
Besides, they have even admitted that their own websites s*ck. I personally like them coming on here and giving their perspective.
However, most UT fans are smart enough to keep their mouths shut when their team beat yours 59 to 20 the year previous.
Posted by GatorHater326 on July 18, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
heck yeah ... bout time some UT fans started shuttin some gators up. September here we come...
Posted by RJ_Vol on July 18, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This is one of my all-time favorite quotes from the movie Miracle(should be underlined) as said by Herb Brooks.
[Great moments... are born from great opportunity. And that's what you have here, tonight, boys. That's what you've earned here tonight. One game. If we played 'em ten times, they might win nine. But not this game. Not tonight. Tonight, we skate with them. Tonight, we stay with them. And we shut them down because we can! Tonight, WE are the greatest hockey team in the world. You were born to be hockey players. Every one of you. And you were meant to be here tonight. This is your time. Their time is done. It's over. I'm sick and tired of hearing about what a great hockey team the Soviets have. Screw 'em. This is your time. Now go out there and take it.]
Here is the link as a reference:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349825/q...
Though the Gators are not most definitely not communists, I hope you see the point. Eventually, the other team has had enough. Eventually, our boys will go out their and take it.
Posted by RJ_Vol on July 18, 2008 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
edit: "their" to "there"
Posted by volguy41nlouisiana on July 18, 2008 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thats the key right there auttat.....however you look at it....coaches..players....wearing the wrong jersey in your living room....we got OWNED....i know this pizzes off our fans...it pizzes me off as well.....BUT.....we have to let that go....new season....(god knows it cant get worse)...new era....new qb...new oc....and its at our HOUSE.....i really cant imagine the anger...and drive in those boys hearts at NEYLAND the day the Gators come to town....the amps put out from there that day will be amazing...but bottom line is this guys....yeah...we got owned...by our worst nightmare...the gators...period...there is nooooooooooooo bright spot from that game....none....39 point defeat...swallow the pill....let it settle awhile...and redemption will be ours....pump our guys up on here....praise the coaches....get that fan base rocking...and lets deliver some carnage game day.....(anyone up for some Gator Meat)
Posted by GatorHater326 on July 18, 2008 at 3:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgjZad...
Posted by GatorHater326 on July 18, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
alright UT linebackers this is what you're supposed to look like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0qeHp...
Posted by marc_ash on July 18, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DCFlorida,
Not too much of a concern for the "new offense". Meyer came into FL and did ok in his first year, finishing 9-3. If not for that choke against SC and the ole ball coach, you might have had a shot at beating LSU in the SECCG that season.
Either way, the new offense shouldn't be an issue. UT has been watching Florida run the system on them for going on 3 years now...they will be more than fine.
Posted by marc_ash on July 18, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I love how the gator fans that have come in here use the term "we" as if they are members of the team.
Very humorous.
Posted by TurboFan on July 18, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Plus, the change from Cut to Claw won't be as dramatic as from Zook to Meyer. For all the talk about DC using the spread Clawson says its really still a pro style with west coast variations, not so different from what Cut ran. What will be different will be the terminology and signals. That first year for Meyer was a struggle because Leak wasn't the right guy to run the spread.
Posted by TurboFan on July 18, 2008 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A bit petty Marc.
Posted by marc_ash on July 18, 2008 at 3:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
turbo,
you're wrong. sorry.
Posted by volguy41nlouisiana on July 18, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
arguing over pettyness towards a gator....i think not...lo...Turbofan....after all...hes directing towards Gators.....blitz em for all I say
Posted by pdhuff on July 18, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
errr, don't we play UCLA first?
Posted by volguy41nlouisiana on July 18, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
yeah pdhuff....but we hate Florida much more...lmao
Posted by Sheepscape on July 18, 2008 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think we roll UCLA, personally. I just hope the UAB game goes well, purely from a superstitious standpoint...after all, they were the home opener during the disaster of 05.
Posted by VolFanInAtl on July 18, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"the change from Cut to Claw won't be as dramatic as from Zook to Meyer" - totally agree, just thinking that
It sounds like there will be quite a few changes in blocking assignments and how they are signaled. I think we can expect some mix-ups early on. It's a good thing we have experienced kids on the o-line.
Posted by TurboFan on July 18, 2008 at 4:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
volguy41, I'm sorry, but amongst all those dot dot dots, I'm sure there's a sentence in there that I can not find.
After Marc's "we" admonishment, I see PD used "we" as did Sheepscape. It's not unusual since it is hard to differentiate "they" from "them" without "us" and "we".
I generally like Marc's posts, wasn't a harsh criticism.
Posted by volguy41nlouisiana on July 18, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Turbofan...oh I know bro. I was just messing with ya. To me, any Gator taunt is a good one. Just have to keep in check with the whole thing, seeing as we were their beotches for the entire game. But, they are the enemy. Period. LOL
Posted by Sheepscape on July 18, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I use "we" when referring to the Big Orange Nation as a whole. I pay my donation and tickets gladly. These arguments over semantics are petty and trite.
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on July 18, 2008 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mcrimjob-
They don't call UF "Bingo Wing U" for nothing.
Kindest Regards
Also, I use we when refering to UT sports teams also. What's the big deal?
Posted by rockytop47 on July 18, 2008 at 4:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Someone asked about Warren ans Williams status. Warren is waiting on word of his appeal to the NCAA and the coaches sound optimistic he will be able to play this fall. Williams still has some correspondence work to complete to be eligible, but he should be here this fall.
Posted by TurboFan on July 18, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sheep, so the Big Orange Nation is going to "roll" UCLA like a drunk in the street? LOL
Volguy, "enemy" on the playing field or court. Just saw no reason for tangent to pots and kettles calling names.
IBleed, no big deal at all.
Posted by TommyJack on July 18, 2008 at 4:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DCf: "..Most obnoxious piece of real estate on the face of the earth". At last, we agree.
Posted by volguy41nlouisiana on July 18, 2008 at 4:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Turbofan--------Florida (IMO) is the number one enemy of all Vol Fans. Admittedly, we got our azzes handed to us., but yes, they are the enemy in my minds. It doesnt matter what sport. When the rivalry is this fierce, lines have to be drawn. LOL..
Posted by TurboFan on July 18, 2008 at 5:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Volguy, in my career I've worked with Florida grads, Ohio State grads, Michigan grads, Auburn grads, Georgia Tech grads and had a Penn St grad as a