Posted by budrhon on July 19, 2008 at 10:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One name - Joe Jackson, could be the best point guard coming out of High School.

Posted by Silent_Fulmer on July 19, 2008 at 11:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I miss the Buzzball days where we waited until the kids senior year and tried to steal Yale's recruits away from them.

Posted by nicksjuzunk on July 20, 2008 at 3:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That's nothing. Kentucky is working on the class of 2016'-2017'!

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 20, 2008 at 8:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

nicksjuzunk beat me to the KY statement. Man are we behind the curve. Get out the toys.

Posted by eb502us on July 20, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Silent_Fulmer...Forget Yale, those guys were smart enough to know Buzz couldn't coach himself out of a paper bag. I think we stole more of Belmont's recruits than anyone else and when they arrived on campus, saw how clueless Buzz was, they transferred right back.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 20, 2008 at 9:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Buzz did room with Michael Jordon. LOL

Posted by volfan5521 on July 20, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hopson unlike Lofton was a major Kentucky target as was Bobby Maze. CPF showed those Blue Misters that the recruiting entitlements they once enjoyed are "OVER"! How long before Billy G. finds a way out of there? I'll bet Tubby is glad he got out of there.GO VOLS BEAT THEM ALL!!

Posted by CatScratchFever on July 20, 2008 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

volfan5521. Bobby Maze was NOT a major Kentucky target. He was NOT offered by Kentucky because he is too much of a risk. He will be lucky to make it past one season before he quits or is cut. I predict he will be heading to Europe within a year.

Hopson is a nice player, but most likely gone after one year too. Considering some of the players Kentucky has taken out of Tennessee (Derrick Hord, Tony Delk, Ron Mercer, etc.), it was not a bad "trade".

Posted by askUncleMaze on July 20, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TO CatscratchFever

Please get your facts straight Coach Billy G was trying to recruit B.Maze. Before B.Maze signed with UT he was scheduled a visit ti UK. But B.Maze declined after he signed with UT. What risk is B.MAZE? I think you need to worry about who's going to try and check him @ UK....

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nice to get in on some of the best recruits for a change! but why shouldn't we? everybody likes Bruces style! it wins, its exciting to watch and the players like it! U DA MAN BRUCE! become a legend at Tennessee! you dont need to go anywhere else!

Posted by 2009SecChampions on July 20, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To Catscratchfever

Chech out this quote from Bobby Maze and tell me that you guys didn't want him. Plus if I was a UK fan it would make me feel pretty bad about the trend that is starting up there.

"Coach (Billy) Gillispie had come to see me, and I thought I was going there, with Kentucky having that basketball tradition,'' Maze said. "But right before I was ready to go public, Tennessee called.''

Posted by TopTenn on July 20, 2008 at 1:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rather have Josh Selby than Joe Jackson. Jackson is leaning to Memphis. There's no need in spending time on him. While Selby is a better pg that we have already offered.

Posted by itsme53792 on July 20, 2008 at 3:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rckydx...is correct on one point: Jackson is leaning to Memphis along with Mike Gilchist...which continues Calipari's high level recruiting (10 of top 25 09s have Memphis in their top 3). Memphis #4/7 Rivals/Scout while utenn (UT is in Austin) is #7/18. As to Maze, OK kicked him off the team...the way Prince was kicked off AZ...and Scooter McFadgon was dumped by Memphis. utenn: reject u.

Posted by mempuss on July 20, 2008 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

itsme- You never cease to amaze me with how dumb you are! Mempuss state= the 13th grade!

Posted by CatScratchFever on July 20, 2008 at 4:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

2009. Funny how Maze tried to save face. Kentucky had contacted Maze early on, but the more that was learned about him, it was determined that he would not be a good fit there. The "visit" you mention had been discussed, but no meniton of an offer was ever made. As matter of fact, the visit was a courtesy. No offer was going to be made PERIOD.

Maze knew that he was not going to be offered by Kentucky so of course he took Tennessee.

I still stand by my prediction that he will either quit or be cut within a year.

Posted by robvols on July 20, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why to these Mempunks ruin such a great forum?

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 5:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hey it's you, Whats it feel like gettin beat by a bunch of rejects? more of same next time. might as well get used to it!

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 20, 2008 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

its great that the mighty big blue and that team out west (i forget their name) are getting worried about basketball, because of what bruce almighty is building in knoxville . get used to it boys this aint your daddys tenn program

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 20, 2008 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

how does it feel being third in the sec big blue ? and dont throw that runnerup crap at me tigerhigh fan , cause runnerup is just first loser chump

Posted by vol4gzus on July 20, 2008 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Buzz is gone (yer happy),but don't jump someone when they can't answer back. Buzz did steal Lofton from Yale right? Buzz did steal Dane Bradshaw from Yale right? Buzz did steal Juan from Yale right? Buzz did steal Major from Yale right? Get the point? Not a bad recruiter, just a decent coach and great human being.

Posted by creepykev on July 20, 2008 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

From what I saw from Maze in the RTL he looks like he could go pro within a year and not in Europe either, right here in the US of A.

Posted by vol4gzus on July 20, 2008 at 8:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oops sorry...I left out of my rant that Buzz stole those from not only Yale , but Belmont also. However, in light of the job the Belmont coach has done ,that might not be quite the jab you intended.

Posted by Colliervol on July 20, 2008 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I see that itsmepooh is visiting from Tiggerland again. Kid, you should simply be glad that we deem to play your sad-sack little mid major school from the Conference of the Little Sisters of the Poor and hush. (Trust me, 95% of our fans nor our budget give a darn one way or the other.) Once again, nobody around here could possibly take a Memphis fan seriously so why in the world would you waste your and my time?

As far as Maze goes, I hope he makes it one year but I have my doubts. Hope he proves me wrong.

Posted by itsme53792 on July 20, 2008 at 10:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Collerfool...Memphis neither wants nor needs your little band of rejects coached by a directional school sojourner with need of a Jenny Craig gift coupon. Funny: Pearl thinks playing Memphis is critical; he called Calipari a "Hall of Fame" coach, Memphis an Elite Program to which utenn (UT is in Austin) is aspiring, etc. As to "who cares?", let us consider: Cal on Best Damn while Pearl does his "damn best" to get on radio. Top 25 recruits? All have Memphis at the top of the list. Next year's prospects? Lunardi has Memphis a ONE seed and your uthugs a SEVEN seed. Memphis plays national schedule..as the most televised team in the NCAA over the past 3 years. You're a regional wannabe, and where you "wannabe"....we are. rocky top high in noxious noxville...where outhouses are the source of relief and intellect.

Posted by TopTenn on July 20, 2008 at 10:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bitesme...........Pearl motivate his team by hyping an underrated tiger team. That's why he owns memphis.

Posted by Ironcity on July 20, 2008 at 10:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The fact that Car Scratch brings up Mercer, Hord and Delk shows he's scared. Heck I think Hord was playing in the early 80's. As for itsme, its only a matter of time before Memphis is back on probation. No one outside of someone who grew up in Memphis would possibly choose to go there unless they were being paid BIG BUCKS!

Posted by TopTenn on July 20, 2008 at 10:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bitesme..........tigers also rank right along with the Buffalo Bills as chokers. tigers have been to three Final Fours and choked. tigers choked to UCLA, Villanova, and Kansas. memphis will always be known as Choke U.

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 11:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All of those national championship banners must look really pretty up there in Fedex forum! You play a national schedule, are an "elite" program and self-proclaimed "the most televised team in the NCAA", now where do you go to get those trophies?! Us silly wannabe's that won a MAJOR conference championship just can't claim any of that hardware! Ohh and your cute little references about "noxious noxville" and "uthugs" only got old after the first 400 times you said them...your schtick is worn out and ineffective.

I guess you missed it tonight, but Pearl was documented on "Under the Lights"...silly wannabe should know that he doesn't deserve half hour specials. After all what has he won? Ohh yeah, exactly what Coach Cal has...

Please continue to predict the future! Can you read tarot cards?! I bet you predicted Memphis to win the NC this year too...that went well!

But if you want to boast predictions, others disagree with lunardi...

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/c...
http://www.sportsline.com/collegebask...
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/82...'09

Your Kool-aid must be delicious!

Posted by 2009SecChampions on July 21, 2008 at 12:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

catscratch--
I hope you are not serious. As of right now Kentucky is looking to have the worst backcourt in the SEC. I am supposed to believe that just because billy g didnt call you and tell you that he made an offer means that he didnt. My bet is right now Kentucky would take just about anyone that can call themself a point guard. As for Bobby Maze being cut, I have seen him play and I would say be will be our starter.

Posted by budrhon on July 21, 2008 at 1:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

rckyx UT has to beat out some heavy hitters to get Selby. His list includes Memphis, Louisville, Texas just to name a few. I don't think Pearl will stop recruiting Jackson, that would be foolish. He has to make some inroads in the Bluff City. Too much talent instate to let these kids not even consider UT.

Posted by marc_ash on July 21, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

catscratch,

First off, you have no clue what Maze was going to do nor do you know what he was offered. For

UK not wanting him, they sure did pursue him hard. Courtesy visit? hahaha, now that is funny. Lets extend a courtesy visit to someone we aren't interested in...yea that makes sense.

As far as Delk and Mercer...can't you come up with players prior to 15 years ago?

UK is a declining program and the Vols are on the rise.

Posted by marc_ash on July 21, 2008 at 9:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

itsme,

Thought you might like this article my buddy sent me from up north. Funny how other parts of the country view memphis. Pay particular attention to the comment section where the author of the article talks about "The backlash of hate and vitriol I received by Memphis fans".

I'm sure you'll come back with "at least we made it to the final game" or "at least we made it past the sweet 16"...."too bad UT couldn't hold onto #1 for more than a week...blah blah blah".

Enjoy the article. Have to appreciate the truth.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/16...

Posted by marc_ash on July 21, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

itsme,

Your arguments are pathetic for making your point. You bring up a Lundari article that made a prediction 9 months before the season? Really? Not only that, but it was written before Negedu and Maze signed.

Second, do you really want to show how insignificant your coach is by continuing to talk about your top recruiting classes? Nobody disagrees with you on UM getting top talent....but that makes your team look even worse...because top talent should WIN. If UM has much better talent than UT (which you continue to say) then UM should destroy UT.

memphis plays a national schedule? hehehe, when they aren't playing in the weak CUSA. How many CUSA teams even made post season tournaments? Thats right...1. Not one single team even made the NIT. Compare that with the SEC...game over kid.

Posted by TommyJack on July 21, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Marc: you're kickin some buttz today, man.

Posted by b_neas on July 21, 2008 at 9:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

catscratch - Funny the guys you mentioning stealing from UT are years in the past. Go and educate yourself. Since Pearl has been at the helm we have stole more guys from your state than you have from ours. Also, many from neutral states that KY was seriously looking at and KY made offers Pearl got them too. I understand your bitterness. Going from the dean of the sec east to now being the 3rd best team (behind UT and UF) would make anyone upset. But you keeping reeling in those kids for the 2018 class, that's how you build a program!! haha

Posted by TopTenn on July 21, 2008 at 10:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

budrhon right now UT is the favorite and leader for Selby. He has attended two basketball camps at UT.

Posted by overatedvols on July 21, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Boy, come hear to read an article and can't help but notice the Memphis bashing continues. I'd have thought by now you would have realized that your place in the state of Tenn. basketball is second but evidently not. I'll copy and paste part of my post from another article so I don't have to type it again:

Tiger news. 2008 first round draft pick Joey Dorsey was called for a tech. foul from the bench in the Rockets summer league game which basically cost them the game. 2006 first round pick Shawne Williams has been warned by Larry Bird that he needs to stay out of trouble after the car he was driving was pulled over this weekend. A passenger in the car was charged with Marijuana possession. Unfortunantly not much good news this week for all the many many former tigers now playing in the nba. Does anyone have any news about current nba players from the vols. Oh...nevermind.

Other breaking news from the U. Of M. Tigers have been picked by the coaches of CUSA to finish 4th in the CUSA East Div. I thought they'd be 5th. Wow, is the program on the move or what.

One final note. Univ. of Memphis basketball. Best team in the country in 2007-2008 and all time best team in the state. Tigers,although a young team next season look to continue to dominate CUSA and remain unchallenged as the best team in the state for the 125th straight year.

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Otherwise, just skimming thru the many Tiger hate posts... let's see.. If Memphis's finish last year was "second loser" just what was Tennessee's? Then we have someone out there searching the internet for negative stories about the Tigers. Of course, ignoring the many positive ones trying to find that one negative story. Come on guys.

Basic fact. Tenn. Vols significance in the world of college basketball, in the entire history of college basketball = None. It's that simple. No final 4's, no nothing. Your biggest game in your history was last years Memphis game. That was it... just a regular season game who's only significance was state bragging rights...not any kind of a championship. You still gotta long way to go before you can swap stories with big brother on the other side of the state.

Posted by Volchaz on July 21, 2008 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If these Junior High UK signees don't pan out, Billy G. will be looking for work...

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 21, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Colliervol, your a retard for the simple fact that you think having a 12-7 record vs. Memphis means something. You shouldn't worry about us bashing your joke of a basketball program that has taken 40 years to try and turn a corner, and still hasn't turned it yet. No final fours? ha, you don't even have an elite 8 to show for a season. You can't take us seriously? hahahhahahahhahahahha. We can't take you seriously since you have never even witnessed an elite 8 game with your team playing.....you sit at home and watch every March!!! Keep shinong in February but you might want to give your AD an update....the real meaningful games are played in the month of March hahahahahhahahaha

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 21, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey TENNESSEE fans, you want to see the reality of your program. Go checkout ESPN.com and go to the Men's Basketball page. They are counting down the top 300 programs since the 84-85 season. They have gotten to 41 so far. They are updating 10 each day. Memphis has not been listed yet. Tennessee has though, coming in just barely before three digits. Congrats guys, you are the 99th best program since 1984-1985...truly a great honor for you!

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 21, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mem10 it's "you're" not "your". you best watch out or one of "your" own might turn on you(itsme).

Posted by b_neas on July 21, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Keep bringing up history memphis whiners. Only timeline I will recognize is the one that starts with Pearl. He is, and will make history for the Vols. It's all about what you are doing now, wanna talk the past go hang out in the chat room with the IVY league schools, or even KY.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 21, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mem10 read the FYI on the same article. you'll see the words "ultracompetetive confrence" for tennessee and the sec. don't think you will see the same for c-usa.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 21, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

brownsville, the fact that you wanted to correct my garmmatical errors humors me...i didn't know this was English class. Thanks for the lesson, I wasn't sure they taught your and you're in brownsville.

Posted by CatScratchFever on July 21, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

b-neas. Name all the players that Pearl has "stole" from the state of Kentucky. By my count, there is only Hopson.....who are the others??

I am not knocking Hopson, he is a very good player with even more potential. I would have liked to have had him at Kentucky for sure. I am not stupid enough to think that Kentucky will win every recruiting battle here or there, but we will get our fair share of great recruits.

Tennessee is an up and coming program, but they have not "arrived" yet. Ask Pearl this and he will say the same thing. Right now, you need to worry on getting past the Sweet 16.

Posted by b_neas on July 21, 2008 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We stole the ones we wanted. Sorry but we do not recruit kids that have not yet grown a set. Therefore our inability to steal kids from KY. As far as you stating KY will get its fair share of recruits. True, you will, problem is you can not win the sec east with big time recruits and solid talent. Pearl has won with average talent and recruits no one wanted. What does that say about your coach? When Pearl gets big time recuits and big time talent (which he is now), we will "arrive".

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 21, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

don't really know if they do. i received my early education in europe(doubt you have been there)and colorado springs(doubt that you have been there also)and then henry county tennessee(kentucky lake/tennessee river for the geographically inept mem10).

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 21, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Studied abroad in London for 1 year (good call) and been to Colorado many times...had no reason to go to Colorado Springs though...heard from many Coloradoans that its lame.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 21, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i lived there for five years and never heard that. you must be making that up. london, really. now i know why you like new york city it stinks just as bad.

Posted by Lofton4Three on July 21, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

catscratch...

Maze was too much of a risk??? Then what would promising a scholly to an 8th grader be? To me that would be much of a higher risk. You can't see out from behind your blue colored glasses to see that though.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 21, 2008 at 3:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Not a huge fan of New York City, but I am a huge fan of the green bills I get to work here...

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 21, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well mem10 i could have swore in an earlier thread you referred new york city as the greatest city in the world.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 21, 2008 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hey stopscratchingyourballsandsniffingyourfingers
you are no longer BIG BLUE
you are now LITTLE BOY BLUE
tell your coach to stay away from my son's daycare. he is going to THE university of TENNESSEE. I know he's 4 but he is already 48" tall and has a tremendous skill set.

Posted by b_neas on July 21, 2008 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

memphis2117 - Yeah and an unreasonable amount of those green bills go to living and taxes. Which is why the mass exodus to the south. I have 15 families in my subD from Jersey, NY, or philly.

Posted by CatScratchFever on July 21, 2008 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

b-neath. Stole the ones you wanted? You said in your previous post that Pearl had "stole more guys (plural) from your state". I just wanted to know the others that Pearl supposedly stole? How about it?

As far as Kentucky versus Tennessee. We split with you. We beat you in Lexington and came within a blink of beating you in Knoxville. In BOTH games though....Gillispie clearly outcoached Pearl.

Face it, last year was as good as it will ever get for Tennessee. A year that Kentucky was with a new coach, too many injuries to count and the rest of the SEC being down.

Until you can make it past the Sweet 16, begin to even come close to our number of SEC Championships, NCAA Championships, Victories and Tradition....Then you have NOTHING!!!!!

Oh, I forgot....you do have an NIT Appearance banner...LMAO!!!!!! That is pretty weak.

Posted by CatScratchFever on July 21, 2008 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

brownsville. Your son could not carry water for the Wildcats....so, getting an offer from Kentucky to play for a real basketball team is out.

Posted by b_neas on July 21, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you have to hang you hat on splitting with UT that shows how your program has dropped and our has rose. We all know its hard to win in Rupp no matter the team. If you really think BillyG can , or ever has outcoahced Pearl you are blinded with the blue glasses. Pearl has as high a winning % as any coach in america. He is splitting with UK with kids that no one wanted or recruited. You are splitting with us and finishing behind us every year in the east with high rated recruits. Go and share your homeristic opinions with Ashley Judd and you all can giggle and have false assurance in your program.

Posted by b_neas on July 21, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Until you can make it past the Sweet 16, begin to even come close to our number of SEC Championships, NCAA Championships, Victories and Tradition....Then you have NOTHING!!!!!

blah, blah, blah all in the past.......talk to me about something my 5 year old kid can remember.......yeah you have tradition but no one under the age of 80 remembers adolph Rupp and the one decent coach you had (Tubby) you let him go. BillyG is the most overpaid idiot in the SEC. Please sell me on his credentials, Texas A&M sure was a powerhouse, right?

Posted by CatScratchFever on July 21, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Like I said....last year was as good as it will ever get for tennessee...and even then, you did not break the Sweet-16 plateau. Too bad, because it wont happen this year either.

At least you have your girls to win some banners for your gym....HAHAHA. I suppose your sister use to take up for you too.

Posted by CatScratchFever on July 21, 2008 at 4:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Heck...just take the past 10 years....we still got you beat. You are getting pathetic now.

Posted by b_neas on July 21, 2008 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Really? If it was good as it will ever get how have we won the SEC east the last 3 years? You can keep blabbing that sweet 16 talk all you want since it is all you have to go with your arguement, fact is we are on the rise and you all are sitting still and lying to yourselves that BillyG knows what he is doing.

Posted by b_neas on July 21, 2008 at 5 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW stop being a pansy and put your name in. Joe Smith, nice to meet you I am John Doe. Did they not let you have a profile when you entered your real name, Billy Bob Jethro Smith

Posted by CatScratchFever on July 21, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

b-neath. Well I cannot say that the Elite-8 is as good as it will ever get for Tennessee because you have not made it there!! What else am I suppose to say?

Anyway, I got to go for now. I have a bit of outside work to finsish before this storm hits. Good trading barbs with you...hope to see you on hear again. Have a nice evening. J.P.Attaway (see..no pansy!)

Posted by CatScratchFever on July 21, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oops...."here again" not "hear". See you later.

Posted by Ironcity on July 21, 2008 at 5:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lets see we had Jordan Howell starting at the point (arguably the worst PG in the conference) We had our best player coming back from cancer playing at about 60%, we had a 6ft 3in undersized forward. We had no real center. Yet we still won the SEC. I think UK will be tough, Gillespie is a good coach, however as Pearl starts attracting top talent from around the country (and he is) were only going to get tougher and more talented. Your best years are behind you UK. I know its hard to realize it behind the blue colored glasses but its true.

Posted by overatedvols on July 21, 2008 at 5:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, I was going to post something to try and irritate a few but I think i'll skip it. Can't beat the banter going on between b_nease and catscratch.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 21, 2008 at 6:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sniffingballsyouscratch
you really hurt my feelings about my son. he is good enough to carry water for ol'billy g. i just would never let him. he's all orange and he could beat you in game of one on one on a 6' goal and you have to play on your knees. but his skill set is awsome trust me. talk to billy g if offers i will reconsider. nah........just jokin'
GO VOLS WUP THEM BALLSNIFFERS.

Posted by creepykev on July 21, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

brownsvillevol yous too educamated for us raguler vowl fans.

Posted by mempuss on July 21, 2008 at 10:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are all wrong about everyhting!

Posted by BSweet on July 22, 2008 at 1:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Over, I've given your team its props in the past. I've said despite the loss to us last year, the Tigers were the better team. But this whole talk about who's made it farther in the NCAA tourney is pointless. In the end, how far you make it is meaningless unless you win it all. That's something neither of our teams has done. Now, when/if your team does that, then you'll have something to crow about. If by some chance we do it first, then we'll have something to crow about. Facts are facts. Right now, because of recent success, Memphis has the more prestigious basketball program. That doesn't mean that will always be true. UT has gone from being a football school to trying to be a multisport school. So far, with CBP, we're having success. There is no reason with his current track record to think that he can't be as successful here as CJC has been there. I know you don't want it to be so, but we don't always get what we want. If both programs continue on their current paths, I think it's win-win for basketball in the state of TN. Wouldn't it be great if we are watching the birth of a new Duke/UNC type rivalry? Maybe it's just me, but I think that would be awesome.

Posted by BSweet on July 22, 2008 at 2:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

CatScratch, I'm not going to get all rude and trade verbal barbs with you, but do you really believe Kentucky is even a shadow of its old self? I mean, I want the 'cats to succeed because it's good for the SEC and it's good for the Vols. If we're going to be a preeminent basketball conference, then the competition needs to be stiff from top to bottom. Now hopefully Billy G. can turn it around for you guys, but right now, you are nowhere near the team you once were. I've seen great KY teams play in TBA. I remember how good they were. They aren't that good anymore. As for the Vols, seriously, you have to admit CBP is doing a dynamic job. As I've seen great KY teams, surely you have seen some very poor TN squads. We're not that same team anymore. We're getting better, and we're drawing better talent. We are actually competing in the SEC instead of wasting space. It's an exciting time to be a Vol fan. I hope KY gets it turned around. I will always root for my TN Vols, but it just isn't as fun to beat a bad team. I want you guys at your best so it means something when we win. :)

Posted by b_neas on July 22, 2008 at 8:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry if i got a little testy. Just kinda irks me when i have gave props to KY during their good times (Pittino and Tubby) and now most KY can do nothing but hate when UT is doing what we are doing. It pains them to give any credit. All they can bring up is the not past sweet 16. I agree with Bsweet when KY is solid the sec looks better. KY has not been solid the past few years, but big time inconsistent. I disagree that BillyG is a solid coach nor does he have a solid staff. IMO he is lucky to be in the top 4 of sec coaches. Obviously behind BillyD, Pearl, Kennedy, and Stallings, and Pelphrey and Gottfried are not far behind.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 22, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

kreepykev i am a ragulr vowls fan.

Posted by mattlock on July 22, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

CatScratch, you forgot Bobby Maze, he was going to UK until Pearl called. And there are other recruits that had UK on their short list. That's at least 2 great players in 3 years for a UT program that you say is 2nd tier. I know it hurts to constantly take a butt-whipping in football, even when you get your hopes up that you might win. And before you had basketball to fall back on, now that you don't you're just bitter and lashing out. . .we understand.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 22, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bsweet, you are exactly right...one of the few vol fans I have seen on here that can admit, we are the more prestigious program and we were the better team despite the loss, however, it isn't because of recent success. We had 2 final fours before the nasty three year run that we're on. It does mean something to make a final four. Yes, winning it all is the end goal and all that truly matters, but making it to a final four is where you wanna be, having a chance to win a game and play for the national title. Tennessee has a 12-7 overall record vs. Memphis and I'll give them props for that, they come to play everytime they play Memphis, but regular season games are just meaningful for seeding in a tournament and so far Tennessee has found a way to screw it up every year in March.

Posted by BSweet on July 22, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Memphis, I won't argue that last point, but even a blind man could see UT basketball is on an upswing. Memphis fans seem to like to try and tear CBP down, but he has shown that he is an up and coming coach. You won't hear me say CJC is a bad coach and that he can't measure up to CBP, but Memphis fans seem to be fond of doing that in reverse. They are both good coaches. And CJC has had quite a bit more time to rebuild Memphis than CBP has had to rebuild TN. Facts are that UT basketball was very low before CBP. Now we're rapidly rising and even breaking onto the big time recruiting scene. Is Memphis doing better at recruiting, sure, but they've spent more time with the big boys than we have. Look at CBP's recruiting progress and you will see an upward trend. He's not falling back, he's pushing forward. Put down the cool-aid for just a second and actually look at UT basketball in an unbiased way. We are an up and coming program and it is possible, no matter how much Memphis fans want it to be otherwise, that in a few years, our program will be just as good as yours. It's also possible we won't, but CBP's current progress supports the former more than the latter.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 22, 2008 at 12:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why though BSweet? Tennessee continues to hit a road block EVERY single year. What is different besides getting better players that STILL can't get you over the hump. Sure you are up and coming, but that's only because there was barely something to come from.

Posted by VolsRyourmaster on July 22, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hear the 'Cats cry now, Hear the 'Cats cry later! I LOVE Bruce Pearl!!! Poor Poor Kentucky! They were good once.....when white boys wore tube socks... no football team...no basketball team...no lady sports to mention.... nothing other than coal mines and girly whines....did I say I love Bruce Pearl?? Ya I did!!

Posted by b_neas on July 22, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

just bite your tongue and say good job in the last 3 years memphis2117 - geesh, thinking UT can go from nonexistance to a power in 3 years is nuts. Simply making it to the sweet 16 3 years in a row is a huge huge step. Rome was not conquered in a day. If we have not broke the sweet 16 3 years from now i will agree with you, but coming from where we have came is an amazing feat in itself.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 22, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mem10 we had a five year slump don't be so bold to say you haven't because i believe while we were going to four straight ncaa tourneys from 98' to 01' mempfis was not and in 100 years of basketball our program has never been on probation has yours?

Posted by BSweet on July 22, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Memphis, it's obvious that you have drank too much of the blue kool-aid as you can't acknowledge that a team you hate so much is getting better. I do not like the Tigers but at least I can give them their props. Is it still bitterness over the loss or can you simply not put personal feelings aside and be objective? Simply acknowledging UT's rise does not make you a UT fan. You can still hate us but give us our due. Really, it's okay. Besides, as I said earlier, if we could turn this into the next Duke/UNC rivalry, both teams could win.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 22, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We have made 3 final fours. You've never been past the sweet sixteen. Stop being dumb.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 22, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have acknowledged you are on the rise, but like i said, on the rise from where....the bottom.

Posted by b_neas on July 22, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No one the rise from being a top 75 (or maybe worse) team. Now we are easily a top 20.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 22, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And the difference brownshick, is that when we go to the tournament, we go with a purpose...doesn't seem like the potheads @ Tennessee did the last two years...Duke and Ramar just wanted to hit the blunt....our players go to clubs and do stupid things, but we come to play in March as seen by our results being far better than yours in the tournament, far far better.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 22, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

top 75 is pretty much the bottom...that's barely NIT worthy

Posted by b_neas on July 22, 2008 at 4:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You act worse than Ky basketball fans. Why? Yeah for now you are the elite program in the state. But we are close behind. Give props not hate. D@MN! As far as mentioning players getting in trouble, you are barking up the wrong tree there. Your team is full of thugs that get in trouble constantly, yet Cal does not have the guts to kick them off the team, unlike Pearl who is teaching his kids lessons in life that you may get a scond chance but after that you are usually screwed. Cal is rewarding bad behavior by simply a slap on the wrist and it will hurt his kids in the long run of life.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 22, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Weren't like 9 tennessee football players arrested in a 14 month period a couple years ago? Yes...

And cal doesn't throw a kid out on the street like Pearl and give up on him...

Posted by VolsRyourmaster on July 22, 2008 at 4:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When I was in Memphis there were NO banners hanging for Tiger high no matter where you looked. Alot of talk from a "school" with nothing to show other than lip-service....do you work for the GOP?

Posted by b_neas on July 22, 2008 at 4:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First no one is talking anything about football. The coaching styles and character of the football and basketball programs could not contrast more. So why bring that up? As far as Pearl throwing kids off the team, does life give you 3rd and 4th chances? Pearl is preparing kids for real life while Cal hampers his kids in the real world. Difference is Pearl really cares for and has a personal relationship with his players. Do Memphis players go hang out regularly at Cal's house? Your points on your last post are uninformed and make you look even more silly.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 22, 2008 at 5:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hahahaha, you obviously know nothing about the Memphis program. Actually, the players go to Cal's house to hang out and kick it with his son Bradley all the time. They swim at his pool and do things all the time. That is your opinion if you think pearl carea about Crews and Ramar, but Cal recruits way better than tons of coaches because the players love his relationship with former players, even those in the NBA. That is what Cal is known for. Thanks for proving my point!

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 22, 2008 at 5:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Crews and Ramar will probably never speak with Pearl again...sounds like some real caring going on there...he kicked them off the team because they were doing drugs, something that Memphis players have never been caught doing. Andre Allen was something of a steroid that he was using to rehab an injury, so don't try and use that.

Posted by BSweet on July 22, 2008 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Memphis- When Cal took over, where did he have to bring the tigers up from? As for your take on how CBP deals with players in trouble, it's called tough love. Duke and Ramar could have still helped our team but there comes a point where you stop ignoring transgressions and letting them slide. Sometimes the only way a boy learns to be a man is to have reality slap him in the face. It would have been easy to ignore their behavior and let them keep playing because, hey, maybe they'll help us win. But the message you send with that is it's okay to break rules as long as you win. That's not caring for your players that's caring for yourself. I'm glad you know CBP's heart so well though. I'm glad you know how easy it was for him to kick these two talented kids that he cared for and promised their families he would take care of, off the team. Please, keep your comments to things you are actually informed about and not wild speculation fueled by your own unending man-love for Coach Cal.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 23, 2008 at 7:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Google "Memphis basketball arrest" and you will find an impressive array of stories from John Calipari's tenure.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I know more about CBP than you do. He is jewish and has attended many events that I have had to go to while in Memphis. I doubt you are lucky enough to be jewish to even understand how we think. Tough Love is not what it was. It was failure on his part to keep these players in line. Cal doesn't just say "no problem as long as you win." There are consequences, but one's that do not result in being thrown off the team. Jeremy Hunt for example, Cal allowed him to come back after being kicked off the team one year and he graduated and is now making tons of money playing overseas. You are uninformed one sir, and like many Vol fans...only see what's right in front of them without looking at the big picture...well, I guess the big picture is trying to finally make it past the sweet sixteen, ha, I wonder when that picture will finally get painted.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 23, 2008 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mem10 so you have had better showings in the tournament. so what. you don't have championship just like us. you can brag about your final fours all you want but without a national title you are just hot air. our program did not come from the bottom as i stated there was a 5 year fall off but now we have the right coach who has won at every level he's been and didn't cheat,unlike calipari(umass),to do it. we know it bothers you to see us rise to the top or you wouldn't be here. and the reason you don't see banners in memphis is because it is not their areana it belongs to the memphis grizzlies and they only hang them when it's their turn to use it.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If you are even trying to talk sh** about our building, you may want to think twice since it was voted the third nicest arena in the nation. It doesn't bother me as much as it bothers UT fans who never get to see Tennessee play a meaningful game in March.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 23, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i'm in that building more than an average tiger fan. if you don't believe me ask overated. not knocking it just speaking the truth. it is not yours it belongs to the grizzlies and it is a very nice NBA arena. state of the art actually.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, and we get to play in it which attracts recruits and gives us a better chance to get the bigtime players....its pure genious. I don't care, nor do I think any tiger fans care, "who it belongs to." When you start getting good players and making deep runs in March (if ever), you'll find out how helpful it is to have bigtime players.

Posted by THE_VOL on July 23, 2008 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mempiss - why are you trying to come on here and flat out lie? That building has NEVER been voted #3 in anything! Answer this too - EXACTLY how helpful were all those big-time players against TENNESSEE AND KANSAS????? Your boys LOST their TWO biggest games of the year pal! I guess it doesn't really help to have big time players though when you have a moron for a coach!

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 12:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The_Hick, Those players helps you get past the sweet sixteen I know that, hahahaha....and yes, it was voted the #3 stadium in the country behind the Staples Center and Conseco Fieldhouse...gosh you are an idiot.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 23, 2008 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mem10 you should look at our recruiting class. not much different than yours. the sec nabbed the top players this year including tennessee. four teams in the top 25 recruiting classes and some have six.
most say 1. tennessee
2. florida
3. vandy
4. kentucky
and some include alabama and miss st.
recruits just don't look at an arena.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Derrick Rose did and he went #1 overall to the NBA...thanks for playing.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 2:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And, you are sadly mistaken if you think the SEC nabbed the "top players." Lets go down the list so I can prove you wrong in front of all your friends:

This is Rivals top 25 guys, and for the sake of time I will only type the school the players are going to, if you'd like to know there name, you can go look it up:

1. Ohio St.
2. UCLA
3. Southern Cal
4. Europe
5. Tennessee (1)
6. Memphis
8. Georgetown
9. Louisville
10. Oklahoma
11. west virginia
12. Florida State
13. Uconn
14. Uconn
15. UNC
16. Duke
17. Wake forest
18. Louisville
19. Ohio St.
20. Wake Forest
21. Alabama (2)
22. Cincinnati
23. Miami
24. Michigan St.
25. UCLA

So 2 of the 5 start top 25 players are going to SEC schools. Man you really "nabbed" those top notch players...8% are going to SEC schools, hahahaha

POINT MEMPHISTENN2117

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 2:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

5 star*

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 23, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

no idiot i didn't secify only 5* out of the top 150 i believe the sec signed more than any other confrence.
POINT BROWNIE

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You said top players....usually 5 star guys are known as the top players.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The SEC blows in basketball. Absolutely dominant in football. Horrific in basketball after all the gators left. Not one team past the sweet sixteen and most gone after round 1.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 23, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

that was last year. and the sec has always been one of the best confrences. c-usa not so. like i said top 150 are the top players. 36 out 150 and that means the confrence that blows had more recruits that, i guess want to blow. and for further reference don't assume.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 23, 2008 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and ROSE was good but he didn't like memphis enough to stay.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 23, 2008 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

derrick rose 0-1 vs. tennessee
joey dorsey 1-2 vs. tennessee
cdr 1-2 vs. tennessee

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rose went #1, it had nothing to do with "liking Memphis." All he does is rave about how good Memphis was to him.

LOFTON, CHISM, T. SMITH, J. SMITH 0-2 in chances to advance past the sweet sixteen.

All they do is win games that don't matter. CDR Joey and ROSE ALL in the NBA...sorry you couldn't cut it Lofton and Jajuan...

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 23, 2008 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

joey will be out of the league before you know it and cdr too. tyler smith only played last season for tennessee so he is 0-1 in sweet 16 games. lofton battled cancer and still whooped your tiger butt. no one on memphis' team can hold a light against him. i still remember the look on all your punk tigers when he drooped 30+ on em' in TBA. it will happen to tyreka evans this year.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Really? Cause your predictions about Joey and CDR is just plain hope. Both are signing 2-3 year contracts (good call once again). Can't hold a stick to Lofton? hahahha CDR was FIRST TEAM ALL AMERICAN AND IS PLAYING IN THE NBA. Listen good...N-B-A. Lofton couldn't make the league. Your statements are not supported by facts and mine are and that's no surprise because I am talking to a Tennessee fan. I remember the look on all tennessee fans faces when they were down 20 in the sweet sixteen game against Louisville hahahahahahhahaha.

Posted by BSweet on July 23, 2008 at 5:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Memphis- So let me get this straight, because you are Jewish and CBP is Jewish, you know how he thinks? So Calipari, is that an Italian name? If I get another Vol fan with an Italian last name then he can come on here and tell you how CJC thinks and he'll be right and you'll be wrong? What sound reasoning you have my friend. Maybe CJC's Catholic? I don't know , I don't really follow him that much, but let's say he is. A Catholic Vol fan can then tell you that CJC is a sleazeball and he'll be right, despite what YOU say. I mean, that is the logic you are using. Wow, I really try to stay civil with my conversations but sometimes people say things that just really blow my mind. So do you speak for all Jewish people or just ones that coach basketball? Can you tell me what they're thinking about over in Israel with your special Jewish telepathy? Grow up. I don't care if you're Jewish, Islamic, Christian, white, yellow, or black; you DO NOT know what CBP was thinking anymore than anyone else. Maybe he is a jerk, but then again maybe he isn't. The very same can be said of CJC. I'm sure CBP has former players who will back him the same as CJC does, and I'm also sure both coaches have ex-players who won't, because that's the way life works. Stick to facts, not opinions, because we all know that opinions are like a-holes. Everybody has one and you sir are acting like one.

Posted by BSweet on July 23, 2008 at 5:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, and Memphis, I remember the look on all the tiger fans when they blew the NC. It was much the same as the look on the faces of the Vol fans when we lost to Louisville. Go ahead and tell me how you were at least playing for the NC, but please, don't try to deny the sting of the loss. It was right there. It was theirs for the taking. And then it just slipped away. On a coaching error, no less. And please, don't deny that it was a coaching error. CJC did a heck of a coaching job last year, but not calling the TO there at the end of regulation was a HUGE coaching blunder. I know this, you know this, and I'm sure he knows this. Heck, all the b-ball fans in the country know this. It just goes to show he's as fallible as the next guy. Great coach, but still only human.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 5:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Judaism is a religion, being Italian is not. Are you serious dude?

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 23, 2008 at 5:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yes, it stung even worse than when tennessee lost because we were playing for the national title, you were playing to get to a place where you have never been before and you got embarrassed, wasn't even a game unlike ours which was the best NC game of the last 15 years.

Posted by BSweet on July 23, 2008 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, and that thing I do where I acknowledge his coaching prowess despite not being a fan, that's called class. Try it some time when you're talking about CBP.

Posted by BSweet on July 23, 2008 at 7:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I've known Jewish people in my life who saw it as both a religion and an ethnicity, hence my examples of both. It's called POV. Nice how you deflect away from answering about your so-called ability to understand the thinking of Jewish people worldwide. Do they even know you are speaking for all of them? If I run into Bruce I'll let him know that you have been translating all his thoughts and actions for me. I'm sure he'll be relieved, when he's done laughing that is.
You(as in the tigers), also, were playing to reach a place you've never been before, the national championship. Runner-up, is still second, not first. And if you don't think there are Memphis fans who were embarrassed by how you blew a sure thing, you're kidding yourself. It's not shame, but embarassment. Yes, there is a difference.
As for it being the best NC game of the last 15 years, well, it was for some, but certainly not for the tigers. It was a blown oppurtunity.
Heaven forbid CBP field a NC winner before your beloved Cal. Then you might have to face a very unpleasant reality. Of course, if Bruce pulls it off, then I'm sure you'll explain it away as luck or some other such nonsense. There's just no way he could be as good a coach as Cal, huh?
You know, it's one thing to root for your team, it's another to get so tied up rooting for your team that you start choosing to ignore reality. Believe it or not, there are coaches out there as good as Cal. And pssst....I hate to break it to you, but there are some who are better too. And before you go all gung-ho about CBP not being better, unclench, I'm not refering to CBP yet. Let me stress yet. History isn't closed on these two yet. No, I'm refering to the Coach K's and Pitino's and Donovan's(that's painful to admit) of the world who actually have NCs they can claim. So take off the blue glasses, put aside the kool-aid, and actually try reasoning. It's something us grown-ups do.

Posted by Colliervol on July 23, 2008 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You guys do realize that football season is coming right? Oh yeah, I forgot. Memphis fans still only have ONE lone thing to talk about in its athletic department and have to do it 12 months a year. (Pretty pitiful if you really stop and think about it.) Again, don't worry about us and our basketball team. We are quite pleased with the growth after 3 years. Give us 3 or 4 more like you did Cal and let's see where it is.

And by the way, the 12 and 7 record is sweet only because Memphis considers itself to be so much more superior in basketball to the "regional" schools. The fact you have such a poor record against a pitiful little football school is a major disconnect in the idea that you are that much better. How can the Mighty Tigers be so woeful against our little team of overachievers? Please explain.

Time to move along now. I'm through discussing basketball until fall. Unlike you, we have other things to talk about.

Cancel this series.

Posted by TopTenn on July 23, 2008 at 9:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cancel the series. It doesn't benefit the Vols program. We already schedule teams like Kansas, Gonzaga, Temple, Marquette, and top tournament teams.

Posted by b_neas on July 24, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

memphis - 1st, the #3 voting you listed was for Pro basketball arenas. Lets compare apples to apples here please. 2nd "I doubt you are lucky enough to be jewish to even understand how we think" Lucky to be Jewish? I know one thing you believe. You guys are decendants of Jesus Christ yet you are to blind to acknowledge who he was, he was just a prophet right? Go read your Koran and eat some kosher meat. Sorry it had to come to this, but you made this bed now sleep in it.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 24, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sorry partner but i'll stick by what i said mem10. lofton out played your beloved tigers twice and once after battling cancer. if you can't realize this then you're just an obnoxious homer.

b-neas that's exactly what i told him.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 24, 2008 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

this place needs to be like a bar: no politics, no religion.

Posted by b_neas on July 24, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree but he wanted to bring it up, my bad i broke a man law

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 24, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Temple is not a good team. Gonzaga we also play. We are scheduling Kansas in Las Vegas this season. Bneas, you are absolutely clueless my friend. We don't schedule ahrd out of conference? How many of these people on here just don't know one thing about anything? It obviously doesn't benefit you since you can't win the big game in the tournament. Tennessee football is a joke now too, nobody is even considering you for the SEC east title much less the SEC champions. Tennessee football hasn't been a worry to anyone in a long, long time. Its Florida, Georgia Lsu and Auburn's conference now.

Posted by b_neas on July 24, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

really? who represented the SEC east last year in the SEC championship. It is obvious to me you simply babble just to try and irritate, because hopefully you really do not believe half the stuff you post.

Posted by brownsvillevol on July 24, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

really mem10 shows how ignorant you are we were picked as a darkhorse to win the national title by espn.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 24, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

National Title? hahahahahahhahahha

You guys are right, I'm sorry, Crompton is going to lead the vols to the national championship...oh one thing...that team that beat you 59-20 got better this season and Moreno is going to have 200 yards against your D between the hedges. I do believe everything I type Bneas, and if you think for a second you will even be in a position to win the national title, you are just plain stupid. You made the SEC championship game because you didn't have to play Auburn or LSU...you got pounded by Florida and I love that they ran up the score on that azz..

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 24, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tennessee is now in the middle half of the SEC with Alabama, MS State and Arkansas.

UF, UGA, Auburn and Lsu are in the upper half

Ole miss, vandy, USC and Kentucky are in the lower half.

Posted by b_neas on July 24, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Go check the UGA vs UT series in the last 5 years (check the score last 2 years and btw check how many yards Mr. Moreno had vs UT last year). If they are in the upper we have to be also. Also Ut has represented the East in the SEC champ game as much or more than anyone in the last 10 years. Funny if your basketball team had won a NC in the last 10 years and had played in the conf champ game as much or more than anyone else in the conf, I wonder what you would be saying about your team (fact is they have not accomplished half that much and you talk about them like they are the 90's bulls)? I will say our football team is not a solid top 10 team in the country like they used to be (mid to late 90's til early 2000's). Still, if any team of yours had accomplished what our football team has in the last 15 years and a UT fan was saying what you are saying to us, your kippah would flip from your head being so hot.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 24, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I went to Florida for undergrad....hah, I think my record at school (3 national titles) is enough for me to make fun of you Vol flamers. I love memphis becuase that's where I grew up, but "its great to be a florida gator."

Come get some now B neas

Posted by b_neas on July 24, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good for you. Your qb touches little kids wee wees doing the offseaSON and holds his hands under center longer than necessary. Think he might be a little fruity??

Posted by b_neas on July 24, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Also why did you bring up beating UT so bad last year in football, but when we use that in saying UT beat Memphis in basketball you throw it out the window as non important information? You have a little double standard there dont you?

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 24, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I love that you are making fun of Time Tebow when all he has done is beat Tennessee. Urban has had no problems with fat phil...

And the difference B neas is that Florida and UT games mean something within the conference...does UT beating Memphis or visa versa mean anything in the long run of the season...absolutely not.

59-20

Posted by b_neas on July 24, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah he beat UT but he needs to win more conference games, since he led his team to 4 losses last year and was not playing in the sec champ and getting embarassed by a average big 10 team. If all you care about it beating UT then go 1-11 and have a nice day? Timmy is 1-0 vs UT, not exactly what i call dominance.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 24, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As a starter yes, 2-0 as a player and yes he did play both games, and it was not even close, 59-20 last year, 39 points. He also has a National Championship and ran over Tennessee linebackers as a freshman. Tennessee fans have nothing on Florida, but I love hearing them try to act like they do. More heisman winners, more sec titles, better overall record and the last 3. Two titles in the last 11 years. Quiet, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 24, 2008 at 2:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh yeah, and 2 National titles in basketball...that's just bonus talk though.

Posted by b_neas on July 24, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh so now you cheer for two basketball teams. That's real stand up. You simply pick the one that is better that year. If you are choosing to be a UF basketball fan, I give BillD props. He, unlike Cal, is very demanding of his players on and off the court and is a stand up great guy. He is a great coach and has built a powerful program. Yeah Pearl beats him regularly but I have to give props to UF and their basketball team and coach.

Posted by b_neas on July 24, 2008 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The whole point here is you are using two different types of arguements for basketball and football (whjether it be for memphis or UF). If a Ut fan uses those same types of arguements, you call BS and refute it. It really makes you look desperate. Talk about UT fans having nothing on UF, no we do not in football or basketball. But Memphis really has nothing on UT basketball by your arguements. They have no national titles, which means so much in your arguements, lets see what do you have that we do not? Elite 8's? Hmmm thats the equivalent to a BCS bowl game which UT has as many as UF so throw that one out. Come on give me some reasons, remember stay with one arguement here.

Posted by BSweet on July 24, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Memphis- Don't be a hypocrite. Different sport or no, it's either where you end it or about single games. If you want to say it's where you end it, fine. Last year the tigers were a better b-ball team than the Vols. If it's about the single games, then they weren't. I'll let you decide which criteria is correct but let's keep it real and uphold the one you choose. Stop trying to butter your toast on both sides. And by the way, we did play LSU last year in football. You remember, it was in that meaning less SEC championship game(which if true means the tigers NC game was meaningless too), and we played them pretty darn well. We had the same results as your beloved tigers, and we were just as close in winning as they were too. Bottom line, stop being hateful and trying to stir up the bile. Actually try a civil conversation. If you can't do that, then feel free to crawl back under the bridge with the other trolls.

Posted by b_neas on July 24, 2008 at 3 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually Ut played LSU a lot closer than OSU in the NC game.

Posted by BSweet on July 24, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

b_neas-Please let's not drag this down to a my religion is better than your religion arguement. Yes, Memphis and I talked about Judaism, but he did not promote it over Christianity. He simply said that because he and CBP are Jewish and he has some amazing superpower to know how all Jewish people think, he has a better understanding of our coach than any Vol fan could. And not to pick on you or anything, but I believe the Quran is for Muslims while the Jewish faith uses the Torrah, which I think, but since I am not Jewish am not certain, is basically the Old Testament. I am Christian, but I also believe as I am entitled to my faith, others are entitled to theirs. I would understand your righteous anger if he had promoted his faith over others, but he was simply making the point that he and CBP were of the same faith. And you have no idea how much actually defending him hurts, but it does. Let's keep this a Vol forum and not turn it into a religious soapbox. "And that's all I got to say about that."

Posted by BSweet on July 24, 2008 at 3:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

b_neas- Sorry, I should have been more clear. By tigers I was refering to his Memphis Tigers in their blown op.... championship game.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 24, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SEC championship is a conference title not a NATIONAL TITLE!!!!!!!!!! SO DUMB

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 24, 2008 at 3:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bneas, your telling my religion and who I should and should not believe in makes you look stupid and nobody else..thank you for being honest with yourself bneas and recognizing the error b_neas has made

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 24, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And, I said the reason you were in the SEC title is because you didn't have to play LSU or Auburn in the regular season...make sure you dumbies read before you post.

Posted by memphistenn2117 on July 24, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Since 1984-1985 Memphis was ranked as the #14 team in the nation. Sorry Tennessee, you were a distant #99, hahaha

14. MEMPHIS TIGERS, Conference USA
Positives: 12 conference titles (7 regular-season; 5 tourney); 4 30-win seasons; 20 postseasons (13 NCAA, 7 NIT); 2 No. 1 seeds; 5 Elite Eights; 8 All-Americans; 5 NBA top-10 picks
Negatives: 3 losing seasons; 0 national championships; lost to 12th-seeded DePaul in 1989, lost to 12th-seeded Drexel in 1996; 1 NCAA sanction
Total points: 204
Did you know? The Tigers have won at least 30 games during the last three seasons, and that recent run of dominance helped them leapfrog some of their rivals. With the butter-soft C-USA providing little resistance lately, Memphis is a program with a high ceiling in our rankings. The Tigers come in first among the three schools tied with 204 points because of the best combined winning percentage (.686) since the 1984-85.

Posted by b_neas on July 24, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wow hang that plaque on your wall. Im sure Cal will mention that great feat in interviews!

Posted by b_neas on July 24, 2008 at 4:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The religion thing was nothing more than poking fun. Memphis was poking fun/talking bad about UT and Pearl, etc. So i