Posted by dfreeman on June 12, 2008 at 11:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Unless someone takes it from you"? Alot of these kids like to keep their commitments silent. Wouldn't someone have to be better to take it away? If so, then that's good news! Good luck to the kid anyway!

Posted by yemmusdarb on June 13, 2008 at 12:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think recruiting is getting ridiculous. These high school kids are having their egos blown up with all the attention. Most of them know months before Signing Day, but they wait until then to publically commit just so they can stay in the limelight as long as possible (i.e. Julio Jones - Alabama). I think 90% of these kids know where they want to go from the get go, so I wish more coaches would pull scholarship offers when a kid tries to string them along. If Hood was a true Vol, he would've committed as soon as Fulmer offered him the scholly (just like our latest OL commit did). So the blame is on him. Let him go to FSU and try to transfer back home like Brandon Warren did.

Posted by bobbarbilly on June 13, 2008 at 12:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't blame them for wanting to be sure but I agree that many have an enlarged ego problem and they need to keep going and going and going....

Posted by mlbrown5454 on June 13, 2008 at 2:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is the kid with the major, major character issues, correct?

Posted by KingsportVol on June 13, 2008 at 7:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why would we even offer this guy? He play's defensive line. Good pass Fulmer. Get 10 more DB's and this class is set. Looking forward to that 2-9 defense.Go Big Orange!

Posted by duckvol on June 13, 2008 at 7:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If this is the Daniel Hood that has had the MAJOR legal issues in Sullivan County then Tennessee needs to stop his recruitment now. I hope it is not the same kid, however a brief internet search comes up with some major issues for a kid with this name and approximate same age in Kingsport where he lived before moving in with his uncle in Knoxville. It may not be the same kid but there are many similarities - Knoxnews reporters may want to follow up on this one....

Posted by wewhite on June 13, 2008 at 7:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dude! Get it in writing!

Posted by chas_turner on June 13, 2008 at 7:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by mlbrown5454 on June 13, 2008 at 2:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"This is the kid with the major, major character issues, correct?"

Understated, but correct!

Posted by txvolsfan on June 13, 2008 at 7:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's not take a run on anymore kids with baggage, I say let Randy Newman recruit this kid, "I Love LA". If UT is not contacting him, then there is a reason.
GO VOLS!!!
TXVOLSFAN
Soon to be FLAVOLSFAN

Posted by GreerVol22 on June 13, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I blame the US Army. Heck if it twernt for that darn senior bowl thang and the hat dance thang, these egos would be in check.

Seriously, other than VaTech and Dadburn, these other schools have been well, less than stellar programs of recent. Pass...next...

Posted by richvol on June 13, 2008 at 7:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If this kid has behavior problems that has caused serious legal issues already,then we don't need him or anyone like that. We have had our lifetime quota of those thank you.

Posted by Pullingguard on June 13, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good smart recruiting by UT,... Offer is good today, but tomorrow it may not be good for someone else just may commit or show more interest with just as much talent and less personal problems. These scholarship offers should not be offered and let some high school kid keep on keeing on with the recruiting to enahance his ego and keep a college team in limbo about the kids choice. Kids who give a college the silent commitment still hangs some college teams out to dry by accepting all the goodies knowing he is just riding the good times. It's a weakness in college ball.

Posted by Vol13 on June 13, 2008 at 8:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Charlie Chaplain was a silent commit.

Posted by tngeoff on June 13, 2008 at 8:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

KingsportVol.

Exactly.

Posted by tngeoff on June 13, 2008 at 8:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah. UCLA's recruiting was waaaay below ours last year. Oops. My bad. It was top ten. I guess the new UCLA coaching team doesn't know a good recruit when they see one...or how to land them. (13 in Rivals)

http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank....

Remember these days?

http://www.athlonsports.com/college-

and these?

http://interact.cstv.com/recruiting/f...
football/4473/top-10-college-football-recruiting-classes

Notice 2007. That strated the winds of change.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=taVW8Kv2HcQ

Posted by tngeoff on June 13, 2008 at 8:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

New Tennessee policy:

"Pass on any and all defendive tackles in case they might not work out or something."

This is just my two cents, but for all the juspah spouted about this kid and those being the reasons we shouldn't recruit him (you know...DEFENSIVE TACKLE)...I can bet that we recruited several other guys who had the same attitude and predisposition to whatever "trouble" is alleged with this guy. My two cents. Plus if Fulmer really said that? Expleted deletive.

Posted by Vol13 on June 13, 2008 at 8:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The reason that UCLA's recruiting was so bad last year is because they changed coaches. Remember, if you ever change coaches then your recruiting will be terrible (just like UCLA's was last year). I read that here one time and I try to live my life by that adage daily.

So the moral of the story is don't ever change coaches.

Posted by bobbarbilly on June 13, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

although i feel that there is more stuff cooking under the lid of this skillet than we can see, if these 'cruits want to play "string-along" then the coaches should also have that option.

Posted by tngeoff on June 13, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oops. I forgot:

http://texasholdemblogger.files.wordp...

Posted by KingsportVol on June 13, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

geoff good to hear from you this morning. Good post 8:26.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on June 13, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ummmm...probably best that we move on from this kid:

http://www.tsc.state.tn.us/OPINIONS/t...

Posted by pdhuff on June 13, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dupree will sign only after seeing his favorite career path offered as a major.

K Kreme baking/clean-up attendant 101.

Leads to a BS in Rotunda Engineering, minor in finger aerial.

Tngeoff, could we get a visual on doughnut dusting II?

Posted by tngeoff on June 13, 2008 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

KingsportVol.

Thanks Bro'. I'm still a bit groggy from the California, Mississippi trip, but I'm starting to wake up a bit. Hope all is well. Keep the Faith!

Posted by sjt18 on June 13, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Before you guys spout off on UT backing away from this kid... google him. The details of his crime are in a public document posted to the internet concerning the ruling on his APPEAL.

If you still think UT should be recruiting him after looking that document over then you lose the right to EVER complain about a discipline problem at UT again.

I feel for the kid... but the family vacation to Vegas suggests that some of the problems with the home aren't gone. I'm very surprised he was allowed to go there.

Posted by tngeoff on June 13, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If that is this kid..I withdraw my support in any way shape and form. That is about as sick as a player raping an underage semi retarded girl and getting help at the highest levels to get away with it. Sick.

Posted by Brama on June 13, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Offer The Kid & be done with it! He is a Tennessee Kid

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on June 13, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

little sjt, I've already provided a link to the court document/case in my post at 9:06 a.m. It's pretty bad reading. You are late as usual though. LOL!!!!!!

Posted by sjt18 on June 13, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I seldom read your post anymore... Every time I do I feel I've become less intelligent for the trouble.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on June 13, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff, is right on the money.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on June 13, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Already back to the "I don't read your posts anymore" claim. Pathetic, even for you.

Posted by sjt18 on June 13, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Proverbs 26:4

Posted by givim6 on June 13, 2008 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff: I hear what you're saying but I'd rather Fulmer get the "clean kids" than have another social rehab project.

Some fans want it both ways; they want the "best" athletes but scream bloody murder at Fulmer when these "best" athletes get in trouble.

Some of these kids are born into a violent, unstable, and criminal existance. We should not expect any coach, Fulmer included, to rehab a kid in a couple of years from 17-20 years of anti-social existance. Many of these kids do not know how to spell character much less know what it means.

I believe Fulmer trys to get good kids overall. Sometimes he takes chances when he thinks the kid has a chance to overcome his "raisin". Sometimes they turn on him and prove him wrong.

If any of you have ever been an employer, you know what I'm talking about. We try to hire people who are good citizens and will perform. We find ourselves suprprised and disappointed by some that never live up to our first impressions of them.

If someone applies with me that I have a strong sense of doubt about, I pass on them.

Fulmer may be doing the same thing here.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on June 13, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18 must know that verse well in order to apply it to himself. I hope it can help you one day.

Posted by tngeoff on June 13, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

givim6.

Well put. Good post.

Posted by jhayes1911 on June 13, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That is one sick dude to do that to a family member...Yeah coach pull that scholly, we don't need any Chester's!!!

Posted by TommyJack on June 13, 2008 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

vol13 8:34p: Like the drop-off LSU had when Saban left?

Posted by tngeoff on June 13, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack.

I think his response was "tongue in cheek" since UCLA had a monstrous recruiting year in 2008.

Posted by sjt18 on June 13, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah TJ, I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that about 25% of the Rivals 100 last year were from within a 2 hour drive of the Rose Bowl, huh? There are 5 or 6 times more top recruits in metro LA in any given year than the whole state of Tennessee.

Posted by T0MMYJACK on June 13, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That's right, morons. Blame the head coach for retracting the offer. And I bet, if the kid ended up signing with the Vols, then getting into trouble while at UT, you would blame the head coach for that.

You gals are really staying the course.

Posted by tngeoff on June 13, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18.

Hey Bro'. Hope all is well. Just for clarification, I'm pretty sure that your point about the local recruits in Southern California is not new to this year and has ALWAYS been that way. However, in 2008 UCLA scored a lions share coup of recruits. Thus the differentiation over previous years. Just a thought. Also, when you peruse the link I posted above, until around 2006. Tennessee ALWAYS had a top ten or fifteen and often times top five recruiting class under the current coach and our demographics for recruiting have not changed that I am aware of. Just a thought.

Posted by IPOrange on June 13, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

WorkinLikeHeck on June 13, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. -

If this is the same kid as the one in this link, then this one is a no-brainer. There is NO WAY we should even be considering offering him anything. For those of you who haven't checked out that link, go take a look at it. If you still aren't convinced, then heaven help you.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on June 13, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by sjt18 on June 13, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Yeah TJ, I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that about 25% of the Rivals 100 last year were from within a 2 hour drive of the Rose Bowl, huh?"

****OK, little sjt, considering the fact that there were about 12 guys from the Rivals Top 100 from the state of California, that claim is a little absurd. It doesn't surpise me though that you were off by so much though. (Hint: 12 out of 100 is 12%, which is less than half of the 25 that you tried to claim). Congrats on being wrong. LOL!!!!!!

Posted by Vol13 on June 13, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's kind of funny that Oklahoma signs players on average from as far away as we do. Yet, we can't get any talent close to Knoxville and you "can't really count Oklahoma because all those kids are from Texas." LOL!!! What a double standard. And we go into Alabama, Mississippi, etc. and sign their best players at times. How is that different?

At the end of the day you can only sign 25 or less. I don't care if you have 10 million 5*'s within a city block of your campus. You can still only take 25 or less. And for every kid that wants to play close to home, there is one that wants to play on the other side of the country. You just have to be able to identify them and market your program to them. I have worked with all kinds of people from all over the world and one thing is for sure - they all love living in Tennessee.

If we can get kids to visit campus, we have as good a shot to sign them as anyone, regardless of where they hail from. And I haven't heard anyone complaining that the quality of our official visits has waned in the past few years.

tngeoff is dead on! Our demographics and geography is only an issue when we aren't recruiting well. When we are, you don't hear a soul even mention it. It's nothing more than a convenient excuse for those who make excuses.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on June 13, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

little sjt, aka The Excuse Maker

Posted by pong982 on June 13, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, this is the same Daniel Hood with the legal issue linked on here already. He will play at a major D1 school next year and has hopefully already begun the redemption process over his legal issue. He will probably be a model citizen in college too. Having said all that, I do not want him at UT. Some things are more important than football and I simply cannot forgive or forget his past indiscretion.

Posted by sjt18 on June 13, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Geoff,

Yeah. LA has always had its share of talent.

For all the ballyhoo... UCLA's 13th rated class wasn't light years ahead of what Dorrell has done the past 2 years. In 06 he had the 17th ranked class. Last year they were 40th but only signed 11 players- final star average was actually a little better than this year.

FWIW, Tn HSFB produced twice as many 4/5* players in 07 as 08. This year Tn produced NO 5* players. Also teams get "punished" in the rankings for signing smaller classes. They get a bump for signing larger classes but both recruiting svcs use a correction factor for that.

In 07, UT signed 32. That helped them reach 3rd with a 3.63 star avg. They signed Donald an in-state 5* and Berry a legacy 5* who went out and helped recruit Martin, Jones, and Paige at the Army AA game.

In 06, they were 23rd with 22 players and a 3.09 star avg. In 05, 4th with 27 players and a 3.63 star avg. In 04, 11th with 24 players and a 3.25 star avg.

In 08, they were 34th with a 3.06 star avg but only signed 18 players. Hubbs has already acknowledged that Poole was underrated. That isn't out of range for what UT has been doing and especially if you throw in Faison and Warren.

Posted by nicksjuzunk on June 13, 2008 at 11:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe what Coach Fulmer actually said was this "He said ‘Look, with this offer, it’s yours. The only thing that can keep you from getting this offer is if someone takes it from you... or if you are involved in some horrifically perverse sexual deviation with a mentally challenged family member.’

I think that's what he said anyway.

Posted by sjt18 on June 13, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewrank.asp

I stand corrected on my ESTIMATE. CA had 13 of the 100, 13%, and 34 of the Rivals250. The vast majority of these players were from southern CA.

Posted by sjt18 on June 13, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TDTN, are you saying that UCLA survives on USC's crumbs?

BTW, you are much too gracious... now please go to sleep and bring back the General.

Posted by 99gator on June 13, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

can't have it both ways.

ucla can't be a bad football team that tenn will just walk over.....

and

be a talented football team because of the amount of quality players in the state of california.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on June 13, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Your "ESTIMATE"? Nothing like being off by nearly 100%. Good job.

Posted by Vol13 on June 13, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Anyone thinking we'll go to a calkwalk at UCLA this year is not paying attention. I don't doubt that we'll win the game. But they have a lot of talent and a new reason to live. Could be a dandy.

Posted by sjt18 on June 13, 2008 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator, UCLA was a SR laden team last year. They lost half of their two deep and most of their statistical leaders- especially on defense. They are very young... and I'm not buying Neuheisel as a great coach. They may beat UT and be world beaters but his record doesn't suggest that.

Posted by TommyJack on June 13, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's not complicated. USC gets the best (now)in a talent rich state. California crumbs can be real tasty. UCLA is down, injury riddled, etc.
Coaching at TN & UCLA suspect, thus could make for an interesting match-up. Could be a barn burner.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on June 13, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yawn....Foolmore goes to the West Coast with a New OC, he'll be kicking FGs from the tarmac, especially since he thinks he molded Lincoln by yelling at him and throwing stuff at him during fall practice last year. The real question is do we have a punter that can kick the darn ball out of bounds?

Posted by givim6 on June 13, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Working and TDTN: Ye of little faith.

Posted by 99gator on June 13, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18

i would pick tenn to win that game, so don't get me wrong.

whether one likes neuheisel or not....i would take a young team coached by neuheisel and norm chow over an experienced team coached by karl dorrell.

they lost to notre dame for crying out loud. what i said about a new staff and taking time to learn things applies to ucla as well. but, when you are nowhere near playing to the level of your capabilities, there is nowhere to go but up. but, it will take time at ucla too.

Posted by thesavageorange on June 13, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UT is not recruiting Hood period ,and I think it's the best thing for the program.Hood's dad said that Fulmer hasn't called in a month.The university is way too close to this situation and can't afford the black eye.

By the way Hood is not being recruited by anyone at DT.He is a OG/OT.When he commits watch this story go main stream especially if he commits in the SEC.If he's smart he'll take the UCLA offer and stay low.

Posted by dvols on June 13, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

who?

Posted by givehim6 on June 13, 2008 at 12:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with yemmusdarb.

Posted by invisiblekid on June 13, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

70 posts on a kid that the Vols should take a WIDE berth on, doldrums indeed.

Posted by chas_turner on June 13, 2008 at 5:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think it is Hood's best interest to get as far away from East TN as he can. Unfortunately, he is now a national recruit and this is going to dog him. Whatever idiot appealed the case and allowed this info to become unsealed public record needs to be flogged. JMO

Posted by BSweet on June 13, 2008 at 5:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, that is just.... sick. I really hope we don't sign this guy.

Posted by camoman270 on June 13, 2008 at 6:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Frankly i am sick of the egos displayed by some of these kids...ex julio......and others. Just sign the dotted line when its time and forget the over hyped hooplah.

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on June 13, 2008 at 7:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Let this guy go somewhere elese! I would've caught a totally different charge if I saw someone doing that to some poor girl, not to mention if it was my own cousin. What a P.O.S!!

Posted by pdhuff on June 13, 2008 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I asked the beagle what he thought about doldrum recruiting. He opened one eye and broke wind.

Posted by TommyJack on June 13, 2008 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PD: Sounds like that beagle has met the minimum standards to post here.

Posted by ncvol on June 13, 2008 at 10:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't know what to say concerning his actions that night at home with his cousin. Sad indeed...
too sad...

Posted by tngeoff on June 14, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pdhuff:

The hidden camera captured the moment just before you asked the doldrums question:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafers/3...

Posted by tngeoff on June 14, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Allegedly the Hood family reunion in 2006:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTcRuV...

Posted by tigervol9802 on June 14, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's just reassuring to know that there is a line even Fulmer will not cross......granted this kid wasn't a 5 star player, so I'm not for sure how hard of line it really is.

Posted by RJP11 on July 16, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Where's the criticism of Catholic for enrolling this kid & suiting him up to play ball? Obviously allowing a kid with a record like that to matriculate & play ball is as questionable a decision as UT taking him would be ... unless becoming & remaining competitive in football is more important than any sort of institutional morality or the safety of female students. How's that going unchallenged for the new private school darlings of the media?