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Tennessee head coach Bruce Pearl gives instructions during a timeout against Butler during Sunday's game in Birmingham, Ala.
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It's showtime!
Tennessee and Louisville fans following the NCAA tournament can look forward to a double-dose of entertainment this week.
The coaching matchup between ringleaders Bruce Pearl and Rick Pitino could prove to be just as compelling as Thursday's Sweet 16 game between the East Region's second-seeded Vols (31-4) and third-seeded Cardinals (26-8).
Pearl won't be bare-chested or wearing an orange sports coat when the teams tip off at 10 p.m. (TV: WVLT) in Charlotte, N.C., nor will Pitino sport the white suit he wore during the first half of his team's Valentine's Day game this season.
But in Pitino and Pearl, college basketball fans can find two of the most animated, passionate coaches in the business. The pair has 38 years of collegiate head coaching experience between them, 914 wins, two national titles and two national runner-up finishes, albeit, Pearl's were at Division II Southern Indiana while Pitino's were at Kentucky.
These coaches don't just win, they do it with flair, from their side-court dress and post-game comments, to the electrifying uptempo style their teams have ridden to wild success.
"What I've liked about what (Pearl) has done, not only is he winning, but he's made it fun for the fans, fun for the program and fun for the players,'' Pitino said. "It's about building an enthusiasm for the program and he's done that. The players like playing that style; there's a lot of energy around the Tennessee program.''
Likewise at Louisville, where by taking the Cardinals to the Final Four in 2005, Pitino became the first coach in history to take three different schools to the Final Four (Providence and Kentucky being the other two).
"I remember when I was at (Wisconsin-Milwaukee) we went to Louisville and played in their (Jim Thorpe) classic,'' Pearl said. "We were down 22 to Virginia Tech and won that game ... then I remember getting it handed to us by Louisville (90-75, Dec. 7, 2001) the next night.
"So I've gone up against coach Pitino, and it was a complete mismatch the last time.''
Pearl's respect for Pitino, however, goes back considerably further, back to the days he was serving as a student assistant to Dr. Tom Davis at Boston College while Pitino was at his first head coaching job at Boston University.
"I grew up admiring him literally,'' Pearl said. "He was there in Boston at a time when Tom Davis was coaching Boston College and Jim Calhoun was coaching Northeastern,'' Pearl said. "They watched each other, and they competed against each other, and they annoyed each other. But they all developed a system of uptempo basketball and pressure defense.
"They carried the torch that John Wooden and Jack Ramsey had established with pressure defense, and they took it to other levels.''
Pitino said that while there are similarities between his style and Pearl's, there are also differences.
"We're the same in the outcome we want, but different in how we execute,'' Pitino said. "We (both) want to force turnovers, we want to create deflections, we want to get easy baskets and, offensively, we want to share the basketball.
"But it's a different system.''
As for the similarities in their side-court antics and animation, Pearl said he doesn't think neither he nor Pitino has a game plan.
"I don't know coach Pitino that well, but I guarantee you what you see is what you get,'' Pearl said, "he's a coach that's passionate, he's animated, he's intense. … If it looks like it's a show, so be it.
"You can't try to be something else. I'm not gonna try to be calm, cool and collected; that's just not who I am.''
The guy with the shirt off at the Lady Vols game last year is who he is, and unlike some other coaches, Pitino was a fan of Pearl's antic.
"I liked it a lot - especially when someone doesn't have the greatest body in the world, it shows he doesn't take himself to serious,'' Pitino said. "I thought it was great and added fun to the game. I love things like that, because this is about fun. He's great for college basketball.''
As for Pitino's all-white Valentine's Day attire, Pitino replied, "at least I kept my clothes on.''
Pearl chuckled at the Pitino's playful ribbing.
"He out-coached me the last time, he always out-dresses me, out-dresses everybody,'' Pearl said. "I'm trying to learn. I'm good, he's the best.''
Lofton In Walking Boot: Pearl said senior guard Chris Lofton was in a protective walking boot Monday. The injury occurred during Sunday's overtime victory against Butler in Birmingham, Ala.
"Chris tweaked his ankle in the first half," Pearl said. "He will be evaluated the next couple of days, but we anticipate he will play Thursday."
Notebook: The Vols lifted weights and watched film Monday but did not practice. UT will return to the practice court today before leaving for Charlotte at 6 p.m. ... There will be a send-off gathering in the Pratt Practice Pavilion parking lot prior to the team's departure, and fans are invited to attend.
© 2008, Knoxville News Sentinel Co.

Posted by VolCane7979 on March 24, 2008 at 10:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Barring a high ankle sprain, C-Lo's gotta go against Lewis-ville. Take 'em down guys.
Posted by rabidvolfan on March 24, 2008 at 10:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Go Big Orange!!!!
Posted by kdaff51 on March 24, 2008 at 11:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Time to break out the Orange Blazer there Bruce!
Posted by jasvol on March 24, 2008 at 11:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
kdaff51: I think the Orange blazer only comes out when we get to the Final Four. I'm with you though, he needs to do a Kris-Kross or something. How about Orange Shirt with a white jacket and tie... not sure about the pant color.
I got it, he needs a small checkerboard jacket (small print obviously). Heck, who am I to give color combo's, I'm color blind and I'm showing it with my selections.
Posted by orangeblood on March 25, 2008 at 12:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
the louisville message boards are buzzing fellas. I have always been under the impression that if ANY team tries to run with us they get beat. Louisville fans thinks the same for their squad. I won't change my thought for louisville. I believe we are better, stronger, faster, and more talented. Come on chris! Stick it to the OTHER team that denied you!
Posted by utchris2003 on March 25, 2008 at 12:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Could be a high octane game. First Team to a hundred wins
Posted by utchris2003 on March 25, 2008 at 12:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow, check this out. Looks like a mirror matchup
http://www.sportsline.com/collegebask...
Posted by bluetick on March 25, 2008 at 1 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Colonel Bruce said today on TV that he only likes to break out the orange blazer for the Kentucky game, and he would for sure wear his orange blazer if Coach Pitino wore the all white again. Then he said...being that he only wore it for the Kentucky game and this isn't Kentucky, who else would want Tennessee to beat Louisville besides Tennessee ? Kentucky. We'll see if he has it on or not. He said it might be about time he put it on.
Posted by Razzle on March 25, 2008 at 1:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Looks like Louisville is an early 2.5 points favorite. How many times have we been the dog this year?
Posted by martinvolfan on March 25, 2008 at 1:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
come on vols as CBP would say, "stick it up their noses!"
Posted by stevefrommemphis on March 25, 2008 at 1:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Attention: VOL FANS HEADED TO CHARLOTTE WITHOUT TICKETS... Last week when I attended the Saturday session of the ACC Tournament, the Charlotte Arena scanned the bar code, but did not tear, tickets. Fans told me that on Friday night after the first game, fans leaving the first game were reselling or giving away already scanned tickets on the street for the second Friday night game. Those tickets were not honored, because they had already been scanned. Since Tennessee is playing the second game Thursday night, the same situation may surface for UT fans. Be careful!
Posted by anthony on March 25, 2008 at 2:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Dear Stevefrom memphis, i'd love to be there, but must win the lottery Wednesday night to do it. Thanks and hope to see you in Charlotte. If you want to beat Louisville don't make fun of anybody, and put pressure on the big red! They have to lace 'em up just like we do.
Posted by alfrizzle097 on March 25, 2008 at 5:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Pitino is the guy that I grew up liking at Kentucky. His style of basketball is what made me hate Buzz Peterson (that and losing).
When we hired Pearl, Pitino was the first guy that came to mind to compare him with. I dunno, Pitino may have the coaching edge on this one. Pearl has done a great job, but no coach in the SEC except Pearl even holds a candle to Pitino.
Posted by GreerVol22 on March 25, 2008 at 7 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I dont care if you wear a wonder bra Bruce and pumps, just win!
Posted by kceltic on March 25, 2008 at 7:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'll take any win we can get in this game,but would love to really take Pitino down.I haven't forgot all the blowouts he gave us while at Ky.Especially that SEC tournament game when we lost by 60.Also,as you probably guessed by my username,I like the Celtics and he almost ruined them,so "sic 'em" vols and get a little payback.
Posted by murrayvol on March 25, 2008 at 7:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
kceltic: You should be enjoying the NBA season for the first time in a very long time.
Posted by Madkels on March 25, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This game will be similar to the game in Memphis. This will be one we will remember for a long time. Vols win by two!
Posted by ThurmondEppy on March 25, 2008 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
StevefromMemphis- Did anybody stand up in front of you at the game??
Posted by kceltic on March 25, 2008 at 8:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Murrayvol:It is good to be a Celtic fan again,but my first love are the Vols.Really dislike Pitino and would love to pour it on Thursday night.Go Vols!!
Posted by Gigavol on March 25, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Pitino is a liar and a cheater.
Tennessee fans that root for Vol football and Kentucky basketball are the worst, especially the "we" guys.
Posted by VolJunkie on March 25, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
GreerVol22 -
I could have gone all day without that mental image! ;)
Go VOLS!!!
Posted by mparker on March 25, 2008 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Here's the deal:
everyone is thinking run and gun. okay, yes, there will be that when available. HOWEVER, it comes down to who can run the best half-court sets.
We've been in a lot of grind-it-down games lately, so the men know how to play that style pretty well. With UL packing the zone, we won't be able to shoot 3's all day (unless we are on one helluva streak, which has not happened lately).
I'm really looking for another tough game, one that will be decided by ref's calls and no-calls.
Posted by chkrbrd on March 25, 2008 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Do you'all think CBP starts JP at PG, or Ramar?
Posted by beachvol1 on March 25, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This one could be in the 90's when all said and done...hopefully in the Vols favor..got to defend better and cut down on turnovers to win this one...
Posted by grvol on March 25, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If Howell and Childress get zero playing time Vols have a chance.
Posted by VolBall on March 25, 2008 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The key stat that will dictate the outcome of this game is REBOUNDS. We have to really get after it on the boards. Louisville is long and athletic and thrives on put back baskets. Look for Williams to play a bunch although he has struggled somewhat against quick post players this year.
The attack employed in the win against Memphis is exactly the formula for success against Louisville. Lets go Vols! Go get 'em!
By the way, I do believe Prince will start again at point. Louisville likes to press, so Prince will really be tested at point. But, Prince brings size that we need badly in the backcourt to challenge the three ball.
Posted by Ashley on March 25, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Pat, I'd like to buy a vowel.
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I'd like to buy another vowel Pat.
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I'd like to solve the puzzle Pat.
NO RESPECT
5 of the 16 teams left in the tournament have faced Tennessee this season. 4 of those teams have come away with a loss. WHERE IS THE FREAKING RESPECT?
Butler's opponents this season were held to an average of around 55 pts a game. Tennessee, in a somewhat sloppy effort, laid 74 on them.
All around Tennessee has to be the most disrespected team in the nation. Agree? Disagree?
Posted by kimzy1961 on March 25, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Coach Bruce Pearl stated that he would only wear the Orange Blazer against Vandy and Kentucky in Honor of Coach Ray Mears!
If he had taken Tennessee that far I believe that Coach Mears would have wore it again only in the National Championship game!
To honor the man who gave us "BIG ORANGE COUNTRY",
only wear it then Bruce!
GO VOLS ! ! !
Posted by VolJunkie on March 25, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
chkrbrd -
IMHO, JP gets the start. The team was off to a great start against Butler, he has the athleticism in a "run and gun" game. He may not be the best point guard but he contributes way too much, especially defense and rebounding, to not get playing time. Ramar will also get time at the point, I think the fact that he was "fresh" in the Butler OT made a lot of difference.
Ashley -
Doesn't matter. Vols fans know and appreciate how successful this season already is. 31 wins ... wow! The way you gain respect, just keep winning.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Go VOLS!!!
Posted by VolBall on March 25, 2008 at 10:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Respect" is overrated. Tennessee has been off the radar so long in men's basketball so true respect will only come with time. Bruce has everyone's attention and has his peers in SEC grimacing. The season we have had is tremendous. 31 wins and counting. We cherish the underdog role, we feed off it. I don't want respect until we take the championship.
Posted by kimzy1961 on March 25, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Well said VolBall ! ! !
GO VOLS ! ! !
Posted by EastTNVol on March 25, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Respect will come our way if we earn it. Respect ain't never won a game for anybody. Vol's just go out and beat whoever you have to play and everything else will fall into place.
Posted by marc_ash on March 25, 2008 at 10:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hmmmm. Interesting they talked about Loftons injury the last part of the article. I've not heard much buzz about it, so hopefully this isn't an issue.
Pitino is a class act and he runs a great program. Louisville will be tough and they have a very strong team. The bigs will have to play well and the Vols must get to the ft line at least 20 times in the game.
It appeared last game that the ref's were letting teams play. If this continues, it favors the Vols.
Pitino has always liked to run and look for the transition 3. LIve by the 3, die by the 3. I think Prince at pg creates a lot of match up problems for teams.
I'm excited about everything other than the 10pm tip off. Hope nobody expects me to be productive Friday morning.
Posted by GreeneVol on March 25, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Quote from VolBall: The key stat that will dictate the outcome of this game is REBOUNDS.
That is a real good point. How can Vol fans expect to out-rebound Louisville when both American and Butler had the edge on the glass against us? Though we won both games, we won't fair as well against more talented competition going forward.
Posted by PHIL on March 25, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THIS GAME, PEARL HAS DONE WHAT NO OTHER ONE COULD DO.....MAKE ME WANT TO WATCH A BASKETBALL GAME! WE BETTER PAY HIM!!! IF WE DONT NO ONE SHOULD BLAME HIM IF HE LEAVES.
Posted by marc_ash on March 25, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ashley, funny post and very true. To a large majority of the country, I think UT is the "flavor of the week". Respect has come over the years for teams that have shown they have earned it. Teams like George Mason, Gonzaga and UT have had good short term success, but really haven't shown they belong with the big boys consistently. That isn't to say I don't feel UT belongs, but it appears that people are just waiting for the Vols to fall flat so we can hear a resounding "figures".
The best way for the Vols to gain respect is to win. Obviously the #1 RPI didn't mean much, as UT finished as the lowest of the #2 seeds. Hard to believe a team goes from potential #1 seed to the 8th team.
This should be a close matchup, but the Vols definitely have what it takes to win. A big guard at pt such as Prince should be able to do some damage if he can throw over the trap effectively (AND QUICKLY). His inexperience may be his undoing, but we shall see.
Posted by johnlg00 on March 25, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks for the link, utchris. Wow, you could cover both of these teams with a dime, statistically. IMHO, it will come down to which team executes better in the last few minutes. I would be astonished if either team runs away with it early. If anyone does, I hope, oddly enough, that it is Louisville. We tend to get stagnant with leads, but we stay relentless and focused when playing from behind. This could be the most intense, fast-paced, entertaining game of the entire tourney so far! BTW, Louisville's pressure notwithstanding, I think JP could be even better in this game than he was in the Butler game. An up-tempo game with lots of open-court situations and lots of possessions not only fits his speed and athleticism better than does a more deliberate pace, it doesn't require him to think so much as to react and makes each possession less critical if he does make a mistake. That said, I would prefer to see Ramar in there in the last few minutes if, as I expect, the game is still close. GO VOLS!!! PLUCK THE BIRDS!!! ON TO SAN ANTONIO!!!
Posted by VolJunkie on March 25, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
johnlg00 -
Good post, I have been touting JP as well, especially in a running game. Ramar will be fresh at the end, just like the Butler game.
GreeneVol -
I agree rebounding will be key, not to split hairs, UT outrebounded Butler 43-34.
Go VOLS!!!
Posted by VolJunkie on March 25, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Another example of how classy CBP is, this is in response to the traveling call at the end of the 2nd half of the Butler game:
"Rather than throw Prince under the bus, who was making his first career start at point guard—a position he hasn't played fulltime all year—Pearl put the blame on himself in an effort to calm his team before overtime.
"I told them to bail me out because I didn't close it out the right way offensively. Whether I believed it or not I wanted to give them something to rally around. I didn't want them blaming themselves, I wanted them to put the blame on me and bail me out," Pearl said of his approach after the end of regulation."
That's the kind of coach I want my kids to play for.
Go VOLS!!!
Posted by mtoms1272 on March 25, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Go Vols!!!!!!
Posted by tlc429 on March 25, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Not to look past any foe, but wouldn't it be nice if the championship game was a rematch between us and Memphis? I can almost taste victory. Ladies, put to Purdue tonight. GO BIG ORANGE!!!
Posted by THE_VOL on March 25, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Prediction - this game will not be a high scoring shootout. Both teams in the 70's tops IMO. Too much intensity, physicality and focus on defense from both sides. Louisville has only scored 80+ ten times all year and several of those were in paycheck games. Much like the Memphis game IMO.
Posted by mparker on March 25, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
the_vol:
that is my thinking, as well. Chris doesn't have that 'touch' he had last year, and if Jajuan is playing D on someone, he gets tired.
Childress doesn't play, and Howell can't shoot, so we have no real, dedicated 3-pt guy. So, we gotta pound it inside, draw fouls, and play defense.
You know, just thinking about it...Bruce would be well ahead to pick up some sharpshooters. I'm talking about the kids who you know are just there to pop 3's on you. I think Childress gave him some of that, but Howell never really has. The kind of kid I'm thinking of wouldn't be a starter, bh'd be a desingated shooter. Mayve even a couple of them.
Posted by brownsvillevol on March 25, 2008 at 12:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
hey greenevol we out rebounded butler 49-36
Posted by johnlg00 on March 25, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I see what you're saying, THE_VOL. Both teams will likely be so tough on defense that the shooting percentages will go in the dumper. I still think the game will be fast-paced, at least until the last few minutes, but it could be a ragged game in which neither team shoots over 40%. In that case, it will be not so much a matter of which team's game plan prevails as a matter of which team functions better in the midst of chaos. I still like our chances. GO VOLS!!! PLUCK THE BIRDS!!! ON TO SAN ANTONIO!!!
Posted by brownsvillevol on March 25, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sorry wrong game stat i meant 43-34
Posted by brownsvillevol on March 25, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
louisville is good and tennessee is better at the uptempo game just need to keep the defensive intensity going and we have a good chance of winning this one.
Posted by thesavageorange on March 25, 2008 at 12:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overatedvols, are you there?Hello?Aren't you gonna rub it in about us getting killed by Butler?Hello?
If ,for some reason,BP couldn't coach another game at UT, there are only a few coaches out there that would make me say we are going to be fine.Roy Williams,Mike Krzezewski, and Rick Pitino.After the game I wonder if BP & RP will shake hands, or high five and chest bump.In my "very humble" opinion, these are the 2 best coaches in college basketball.
Prediction:UT 73 UL 69
Posted by utchris2003 on March 25, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Good point The_Vol ... ala the game versus Memphis. Should be a similar match-up to that game.
maparker - chris may not have had quite the touch he had last year, but he has shown it at times this year. Maybe he gets a few early buckets, and catches fire. Or he just continues to do what it is he does and hits the shot that matters most.
Great article posted below. I imagine most Vol fans could relate to at least some part of this story.
http://www.sportsline.com/spin/story/...
Posted by oveRRatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
here i am ... i never have anything interesting to say ... blah, blah, blah, blah,
more contradictions, blah, blah, blah
i like to wear a dress when i watch the memphis tigers play ... it makes we feel tingly all over
blah, blah, blah
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Vols vs Cardinals.
Win this game and you get respect. There
is no doubt Louisville is good. They are Memphis's former rival and we used to beat up on each other all the time so I know they are for real. You beat them and you have respect. It's been hard to show any respect for a team that came from a weak SEC. Most of the wins were against SEC teams that weren't good. You lost to Vandy and you closed out the regular season almost losing every game you played. You went into the SEC tournament and almost/should have been beat by a horrible team and then you got killed by Ark. Arkansas turns around and gets masacared by NC making you look all the worse.
You go into the big dance with a chip on your should and nearly fall to American and had to go to overtime against Butler. Not two big name schools. You have not won a game decidedly in over a month. Now, you finally face a real team. What will you do? How will you handle a real team. I'm curious. My thinking is a loss by 15 or so. Try to win. Memphis is waiting.
We will be playing Michigan state, a regular in the sweet 16, 8, 4 and even won a championship not long ago. No doubt a good team and all their fans and newspapers say they will win easily. Of course...they won't. They will go home just as all the SEC teams have been doing. After Sunday, no more sec's out of how many.. 5? Tenn. will have managed to beat mightly American and Butler and lose against the first real competetion and finish in the sweet 16. Their norm.
Make sure you watch us in San Antonio.
You're going down in your next game. If you win. I'll actually repect you but have found no reason to yet.
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Memphis knocks out SEC team.
CDR of Memphis one of 4 finalist for Naismith award. Other finalist are Beasley - Kansas State,
Love - UCLA, Hansbrough - NC.
Go Tiges!!
Posted by thesavageorange on March 25, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Here is a couple of things Bruce said that keeps me optimistic.
BP:
"We turned the ball over too much. We rushed a little too much. I hope we learn from those turnovers and some mistakes. There's some learning that still needs to take place," Pearl said. "But to be able to do this without JaJuan and Chris putting up huge numbers tonight speaks to what this team is capable of."
BP on Mike & Mike:
"We are stupid enough to give up the lead ,but dangerous enough to get it back.
Posted by KyScGaFlAlAkMiTnLa on March 25, 2008 at 1:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If we score 80 we will probably win, but I like the 'halfcourt' idea. American is 63rd in slowdown games for tourney teams, Butler is 64th. We are well prepared for that, and Louisville will not be. Plus, Washington State is 65th! So if they upset UNC, we will already have 3 games experience for them, and we will be fresher to run if UNC wins. All good points. And Ramar does do better coming in with fresh legs when the other team is tired. So play JP most of the game, and use Ramar when its crunch time.
Posted by marc_ash on March 25, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overatedvols,
For a second, I almost thought you could possibly be making a legit point...but then, I realized this wasn't the case. In fairness, do you really want to compare a "down" SEC with CUSA? I will admit, the SEC is down this season. HOwever, it got 6 teams into the tourney (5 more than CUSA).
Again, I agree the SEC was down this season. However, UT's OOC schedule more than made up for any lack of in conference schedule. Memphis had to do the same because their conference was weak again this year. It paid off, and they did well against their OOC opponents.
You talk about respect, but how can you say you "can't respect a team from the weak SEC"? I think if you match up the "weak" SEC against the "weak" CUSA the SEC blows them away. You expect Memphis to be respected playing in a weak CUSA but won't give it because UT plays in a weak SEC? That makes no sense...especially since your team lost to a "non-respected SEC team".
In case you didn't realize it, basketball is about "W's". It doesn't matter if you win by 2 or 20, a W is a W....just ask UCLA.
I don't understand why folks like yourself are so down on caring what the Vols do. What we have done is beat Memphis what...4 of the last 5? I think we beat you this season at your place. If you don't like the Vols then great...go back to the Commercial Appeal and hang out with your crew. Bottom line is at the end of the day....Memphis has just as many National Championships as UT has.
Posted by thesavageorange on March 25, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 12:48 p.m
It's been hard to show any respect for a team that came from a weak SEC.
Uhh,what conference does Memphis play in again?
Most of the wins were against SEC teams that weren't good. You lost to Vandy and you closed out the regular season almost losing every game you played. You went into the SEC tournament and almost/should have been beat by a horrible team and then you got killed by Ark. Arkansas turns around and gets masacared by NC making you look all the worse.
And Tenessee beat Memphis on you're floor ,so that makes the Tigers look terrible!
Sunday, no more sec's out of how many.. 5?
C-USA in the tournament...1.After Sunday ...0
If you win. I'll actually repect you but have found no reason to yet.
I'll give you 2 good reasons!2006-2007 UT 76 UM 58!
2007-2008 UT 66 UM 62!
Posted by marc_ash on March 25, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Where is that gatornation guy? Didn't he say he would be back on here after the Vols get knocked out in the second round?
I think Memphis falls to Michigan State. The Spartans will present some match up problems for UM and will play a banging game. Memphis...your ft % will be your demise....watch.
Posted by marc_ash on March 25, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
thesavageorange,
"We are stupid enough to give up the lead ,but dangerous enough to get it back."
I think its time to get some t-shirts printed off with this on the back. What a great quote!
Posted by thesavageorange on March 25, 2008 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
your floor not you're.Ohh well, we didn't want you to repect us anyway.lol
Posted by thesavageorange on March 25, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
marc_ash ,Izzo will make UM win it from the line.Uhh ohh!
I would love to hear some of the stuff BP says during practice.Uncle Bruce is the best.
Posted by VolJunkie on March 25, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
savage -
nice post ... love the M&M quote.
Go VOLS!!!
Posted by rbhobbs73 on March 25, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I posted this on another thread, but here is I how I see us beating Louisville from the offensive side...
we handled the zone exceptionally well in the 2nd half at Alabama. We fed Tyler in the middle of the zone and he made decisions. If Alabama collapsed on him, he hit C-Lo and JaJuan for open 3s (which they made consistently) and when the wings stayed at home, Tyler went one on one to the basket. We torched Alabama in the 2nd half with this.
Take this same game plan to Louisville! Make them get out of that zone and then let Ramar, JP and Tyler drive the ball at their bigs and get them in foul trouble.
Look for Ramar to play a lot more point against the press.
Go Vols!!!!
Posted by thesavageorange on March 25, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
VolJunkie ,The M&M quote is classic.This one just made me laugh.
BP:
“I could probably make an Armani suit look bad. It's not a very pretty look. When I wear my orange coat, I look like an orange barrel on the highway.”
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey you guys were the ones speaking of what a diff. a great conf. makes. Always knocking c-usa and talking of the mighty sec. I'm just saying it wasn't so great after all was it? Now you have to try and cover up for all the other sad teams you have to play all year. Very familiar to us. We can't hide behind our conference. You have all the SEC and ACC teams that say..hey..look at our great conf. The truth is there is usually 1 or 2 good teams and the others are nothing. Still, if you are in one of the bcs conf. you can hide in it and say your loses are due to your strong conf. That gets exposed as a lie year in and year out in the ncaa tourney. Came really close to exposing you guys also. As I see it, Tenn. only has one thing to really boast about and that's the Mem win and boy oh boy do you ever use it. The fact is Mem was headed for a loss for about a month before that game. They were getting worse and worse with one player saving them each game. They were not the same team as earlier in the season (and still aren't). In the Tenn. game we were hoping they would come back and they didn't and only 1 player showed up, Rose. Still, as bad as we played we almost beat you. If two tigers had not of fought for the same rebound we win. In the last 3 years you are 2 and 1. When we beat you next season it will be 2-2. What then? Oh to the usual, Tenn. has won as many championships as Mem. (please get something new). Well, have you been to as many sweet 16's, 8's, 4's and championship games as us?? Changing the subject to conf usa doesn't change the fact that your sec was bad and that's been exposed now and it doesn't change the fact that you have proven nothing and have not looked good for a long time and that you will lose your next game and we will win.
Posted by PennVol on March 25, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
When it comes to respect for our basketball team, let's look at ourselves. We're in the Sweet 16, yet we'll get 450 posts for something the new football offensive coordinator said (in March!) and maybe 150 for a basketball story about the Sweet 16. Respect comes from winning, and right now we're about where we should be nationally when it comes to basketball. People will remember what we do in March and we're only a Top 15 or so team (nationally) based on the last 2-3 years. Beat Louisville and we'll kick it up a notch. GO VOLS!
Posted by BOASoldier on March 25, 2008 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overatedvols? what is a tiges? is that kinda like a Liger and is that your favorite animal?
Posted by VolJunkie on March 25, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
savage -
Should be a coaching study in sartorial splendor Thursday night ... Pitino tends to out "GQ" himself, Bruce and his staff always look great ... "orange barrel on the highway." ... LOL
Go VOLS!!!
Posted by BOASoldier on March 25, 2008 at 1:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
one more question? is your four year old child typing for you? if so they are doing a heck of a job... if not ... bwah ha ha ha ha that's some funny stuff.
Posted by marc_ash on March 25, 2008 at 1:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey you guys were the ones speaking of what a diff. a great conf. makes. Always knocking c-usa and talking of the mighty sec. I'm just saying it wasn't so great after all was it?
What are you talking about? Guy, the facts are obvious to everyone but you it seems. Let me respectfully point out some facts that I don't feel I can be ANY more clear on. Here are the facts about the different conferences:
The NCAA Tourney got in 6 teams. CUSA got in 1. If CUSA was so good, then why only get in Memphis?
Also, if SEC was so BAD...then why give them 6 spots? Also remember, UF was a bubble team (and is close to winning the NIT if I'm correct).
For a conference to "suck" so bad, then why do the last 2 NC teams hail from the SEC?
If you've read my posts, I don't talk about the "mighty SEC". However, I will say the SEC is far and above a stronger conference than CUSA. This is a no brainer and the case is made simply by how many teams were in the tourney this year. 6 to 1 says it all.
If you think UT has to "cover up for all the sad teams they played all year" then I know you are joking. Name me one other team in CUSA that deserved to make post season play and then talk to UT fan's about playing sad teams.
People don't have any problems with discussing legit arguments, but yours hold no water.
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 1:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Tigers = Sweet 16 three years in a row
Elite 8 two years in a row and headed for 3
Tenn = Sweet 16 is their best in history. Not much of a history. Will tie their best
this year and that's it. Louisville is the better team. Louisville will not only beat the Vols but they will beat Carolina.
After next game - Memphis advances to elite 8 for third year straight.
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on March 25, 2008 at 2:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Overated-
Scoreboard bitch!!!
Since when are rebounds worth 4 points????
By the way, the weak Miss St team that almost beat you got beat by the Vols on their own court, much like we beat you guys on your home court.
Who cares about past seasons? There's a new era in UT basketball. You know it and you hate it because it is going to be the end of the Mempiss reign. Sorry buddy.
Posted by marc_ash on March 25, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overratedvols,
No, if you win next season you will not be 2-2. Go back and do your research young man. You obviously have no knowledge of the records of the games recently (or not recently) played.
I also think it is amazing the number of times you say "if". Stop with the "if this would have happened" garbage, its getting old. And as for the NC argument, it may be old...but is a fact. Memphis has a long standing history of being decent at basketball. Thats all they have been decent at. So, for the Vols to be good now is considered over acheiving....they have never been there. Imagine how bad memphis will look having been decent for so long, and still can't win a title. UT has an excuse...what is memphis?
Posted by oveRRatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 2:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
same whiny stuff ... blah, blah, blah
memphis is great, ut sucks ... blah, blah, blah,
C-USA is so great, SEC sucks ... i wish i was back in kazakhstan with my sister
i wish i was a memphis cheerleader, i like their skirts ... niiiice
blah, blah, blah
Posted by GoVol on March 25, 2008 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Overated - bottom line is that TN beat Memphis on Memphis' home court with Memphis refs. All of the other conference crap about SEC & C-USA really doesn't matter. We beat you straight up on your own floor and gave Memphis its only loss this year. If you don't respect that, then you must surely respect your own team even less!
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
BOASoldier, whew what a manly masculine handle. Gosh, wish I had one that great but overated vols is more appropriate.
Tiges.. what we call our team sometimes you know.. like Vols.. .use some common sense! When you are down to trying to find grammer errors you know you are beat and haven't gotten any valid defense against the insults so you try to sway the conversation. You know like.. well, look at c-usa. Who cares about c-usa. We are the class of that conference. We are still standing and yet from that crummy ole conf. We'll still be standing when you sit and yet from that crummy conf.
BoaSoldier..ha.. gimme a break
Posted by marc_ash on March 25, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 1:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Tigers = Sweet 16 three years in a row
Elite 8 two years in a row and headed for 3
Tenn = Sweet 16 is their best in history. Not much of a history. Will tie their best
this year and that's it. Louisville is the better team. Louisville will not only beat the Vols but they will beat Carolina.
After next game - Memphis advances to elite 8 for third year straight.
Memphis, 0 national championships.
Memphis, 3 sweet 16's and 3 losses in those sweet 16's after being highly ranked.
Memphis, 2 Elite 8's and 2 losses.
Listen lunchbox, all the sweet 16's, Elite 8's and final 4's mean squat unless you can boast a NC. UT has never been good at bball and now are...I'm sure that is quite scary that big brother is getting better at yet another sport....shall we talk some football at some point?
Posted by brownsvillevol on March 25, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
very dangerous prediction for only beating that weak sec team by 3 and as for next year we will be waiting in the confines of TBA where unlike you, are undefeated for two seasons.
Posted by thesavageorange on March 25, 2008 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overatedtigers,Facts are the enemy of the truth aren't they.Atleast you're truths.
Fact:Tennessee has played 5 teams that remain in the tournament.Record:4-1
Fact:Memphis has played 1 team left in the tournament.Record 0-1
Fact:Tennessee SOS #1
Fact:Memphis #27
overatedtigers, you can slice it anyway you like it, but the score is still 66-62.
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on March 25, 2008 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Overated-
By the way, the Vols record against Sweet 16 teams is as follows:
West Virginia - W
Memphis - W
Xavier - W
W Kentucky - W
Texas - L
Texas may be the only other team that can boast that type of winning record against the teams that remain.
Memphis on the other hand:
Tennessee - L
That's it. 4-1 against the Sweet 16 or 0-1, which looks better. Sorry to keep hitting you with all these "stats" that make us look better than Memphis, but I just can't help it. They are everywhere I look!
Posted by rbhobbs73 on March 25, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overratedvols,
You contradict yourself every other sentence.
You say UT isn't good because 1) the SEC sucks and 2) it isn't beating people convincingly.
I noticed you made no mention of the fact the your beloved Tigers only beat Miss. State by only 3 points on Saturday. Did I miss something or is 3 points somehow more convincing than 5 (that UT won by) and I could swear that Miss State was a member of the SEC.
You also stated some out right lies. You said that UT closed out the regular season "losing almost every game you played"....really, so losing 2 games out of the last 15 games leading into the tournament is almost every game?
Here is the bottom line...WE Beat you, on YOUR home court. CASE CLOSED.
We have won 5 of the last 6 times we have played you. That includes wins when BUZZ was coaching. Tennessee owns the series in basketball over Memphis by a 2 to 1 margin!!!
Why are you here talking crap?
Posted by rbhobbs73 on March 25, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overratedvols,
You contradict yourself every other sentence.
You say UT isn't good because 1) the SEC sucks and 2) it isn't beating people convincingly.
I noticed you made no mention of the fact the your beloved Tigers only beat Miss. State by only 3 points on Saturday. Did I miss something or is 3 points somehow more convincing than 5 (that UT won by) and I could swear that Miss State was a member of the SEC.
You also stated some out right lies. You said that UT closed out the regular season "losing almost every game you played"....really, so losing 2 games out of the last 15 games leading into the tournament is almost every game?
Here is the bottom line...WE Beat you, on YOUR home court. CASE CLOSED.
We have won 5 of the last 6 times we have played you. That includes wins when BUZZ was coaching. Tennessee owns the series in basketball over Memphis by a 2 to 1 margin!!!
Why are you here talking crap?
Posted by rbhobbs73 on March 25, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overratedvols,
You contradict yourself every other sentence.
You say UT isn't good because 1) the SEC sucks and 2) it isn't beating people convincingly.
I noticed you made no mention of the fact the your beloved Tigers only beat Miss. State by only 3 points on Saturday. Did I miss something or is 3 points somehow more convincing than 5 (that UT won by) and I could swear that Miss State was a member of the SEC.
You also stated some out right lies. You said that UT closed out the regular season "losing almost every game you played"....really, so losing 2 games out of the last 15 games leading into the tournament is almost every game?
Here is the bottom line...WE Beat you, on YOUR home court. CASE CLOSED.
We have won 5 of the last 6 times we have played you. That includes wins when BUZZ was coaching. Tennessee owns the series in basketball over Memphis by a 2 to 1 margin!!!
Why are you here talking crap?
Posted by marc_ash on March 25, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overratedvols,
I've never heard the phrase "haven't gotten any". Please do not attempt to insult others grammar when using phrases like this, it just isn't classy.
Posted by marc_ash on March 25, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hobbs and Ibleed,
Great posts. Facts are facts. I always love it when fans say how much the Vols suck only after we've beaten them. Must suck to lose to a team that sucks so bad.
Posted by VolJunkie on March 25, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
marc_ash ... you never were around my frat house on a Saturday night ... that phrase was usually said more than once!
Posted by rbhobbs73 on March 25, 2008 at 2:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sorry for the triple post...computer froze.
Maybe it will take reading it 3 times to get through overrated's hard, stubborn, ignorant head...LOL!
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on March 25, 2008 at 2:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
VolJunkie-
Good stuff. I was thinking the same thing. Ha ha!
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on March 25, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
C-USA doesn't even have a team left in the N.I.T.
UAB, who was out-ref'd in the final seconds of their home game w/ Memphis got knocked out last night.
To put everything into perspective, 6 SEC teams went to the Big Dance. 1 is left. The only one that we on this site care about. UK didn't deserve their bid. It should've gone to Va Tech. UGA lucked up and won the SEC tourney. Nobody was surprised to see them fall in the 1st round. Vandy's body of work surely earned them their spot but they couldn't win a game away from home all year. No big secret, no real surprise that they went down. The other 2 teams to get knocked out got beat by 1 seeds, no real surprise there either.
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
VolJunk, feel free to chime in. I told you earlier that I am not zander. I do not know the guy. I want you all to be angered by me. It's my intention. It seems to work. This message board is dull and lacking and I come in with some hurtful facts and boy does it come to life. I'm simply a person telling it like it is. It's fun to see you guys sit and try to figure out everything to your advantage. Let's see...Mem is in conf. usa..there's something. and.. let's see..we beat them..there's another.. and. let's see..what else.. let me look hard for anything..anything. Well.he got us on that Arkansas loss.. but.. let's see.. let me look up what year they lost to Ark... Wait, if i say Conf. USA is bad he'll just come back and point out that 50% of the sec teams lost their first game and out of 6, 5 are already gone a new tournament record. ..what else..what else can i say... ha ha
You can dig and dig and point out everything you can think of in the Vols favor but you can't change the fact that Memphis is better, Tenn. has not looked good for awhile and can't seem to beat anybody by more than a few points no matter who they are. Memphis has a better history and Memphis will still be standing when the Vols sit. (Friday).
I was wondering if I should stop this and especially after your loss on Fri. I was wondering if it would be cruel to hit you guys when you are down. I know how you will be hurting. Then I stopped and thought about the Vol fans behaviour after the Memphis game. Yea..i'll be back after your Louisville game. That's why i'm here now.
Do you really think you will beat Louisville? I'm telling you now.. you will not. By midway thru the second half they will have a big lead..big. It's over.
Now.. sit down and think of all the stats in your favor. Try not to repeat the same ones over and over like you usually do and please...no more of the "tenn. has won as many championships as you have" that one is particularly sickening.
Posted by mparker on March 25, 2008 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
the possession that did in Miss State was the one where the ball kept taking bad bounces, and Memphis ended up with something like a 1.5 minute possession.
Still, MSU had a look, and arguably J. Gordon was fouled on the last shot.
I really don't think the 'other' MSU beats Memphis...I think you beat Memphis inside, and I don't knnow if Mich state has that presence.
Texas will be a challenge for Memphis, simply because Tex guards play good D.
If UL meats UT, they will NOT beat North Carolina. No way. UNC MAY struggle with Wash State. I think that Wash State ends up in 'foul trouble', wink-wink n0d-nod.
Posted by VolJunkie on March 25, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overated -
I stopped worrying about you long ago, I feel no need to respond, you are no different than a barking dog or an annoying child.
Go VOLS!!!
Posted by mparker on March 25, 2008 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dang....
http://loserwithsocks.files.wordpress...
double-dang...
http://loserwithsocks.files.wordpress...
I think I'd be smiling !!
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on March 25, 2008 at 3:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Overated-
You haven't come with any facts. You've come with you're opinion that Memphis is better. You complain when we state the facts that support our opinion that UT is better. Memphis is a good team. They are yet another good team that UT has beaten this year. Our game is on Thursday, by the way. Hopefully, on Thursday we can add L'Ville to that list. I think you guys have a clear advantage over Mich St and you should beat them, but that's why they play the game. You never know, they may not show up as you know they are proned to do. I'm sure it would be a pretty tough pill for you to swallow if we went marching on and you guys were sent packing. I'm sure you won't be on this site if that's the case, but take comfort in the fact that we will all be having a good laugh at your expense.
Posted by nafslov on March 25, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Coach Pearl is the greatest thing to happen to UT sports in the past 5 years ( except for Jimmy Clausen going to ND and Mark Packer being boycotted by UT athletics)! Go Vols !
Posted by VolJunkie on March 25, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mparker -
another good reason (maybe 2 good reasons?) for CP to stay at UT!
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on March 25, 2008 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by mparker on March 25, 2008 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dang....
http://loserwithsocks.files.wordpress....
double-dang...
http://loserwithsocks.files.wordpress....
I think I'd be smiling !!
Nice!!!!!!!!
I wonder if there are any pictures of Calapari floating around with him and a couple of hood rats w/ weeves and gold teeth. Ha ha ha!
Posted by GoVol on March 25, 2008 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overated - the only thing that DOES matter is that we beat memphis and you cannot dispute that!!! I know its eating you on the inside that TN cost memphis the overall number one seed and that we beat you on your home court. It eats you on the inside...like a cancer you can't get rid of. All of the other smack about which conference is better and who is left doesn't really matter. Talk all you want...we won!!!!!!
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow, a few decent comments acknowledging Memphis has a good team. I'm impresssed. Wish I could say that I do think Tenn. is better than Louisville but I truely do not. While you all were busy saying all we were doing was beating up on bad cusa teams you were doing the same in the sec. Vandy getting killed by Siena was even more proof.
If you beat Louisville i'm a believer. I'll change my handle to ImpressiveVols and stop antagonizing
Posted by mparker on March 25, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Prediction:
Tyler Smith and CBP both stay at UT. UT does NOT get Hobson (hopson??).
I think Tyler will stay to work on his ball-handling and 3-point shooting. Next year UT will be a diff team, it will be a power team as Williamsn matures and Jurick and Woolridge come in.
Add to that Ramar is a slasher, and JP...
So Tyler can work on 3's, along with Cam Tatum and the new point guard.
CBP stays at UT because, as much as I despise the Big Ten in football, the Big Ten in basketball is a freaking nigtmare of rock-hard teams.
The SEC is getting tougher, and most alwasy has 4-6 very good teams, but let's face it: the SEC still relies on home-cooking reffing for several teams (vandy, UK), whereas I DO NOT see that same contention about the big ten.
Bottom line: CBP can be more successful in the SEC than in the big ten.
You know, Memphis maybe has it right playing in a creampuff conference; it got them a one seed, after all.
Posted by bernardking on March 25, 2008 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The the overrated dumbazz,
The only stat that matters is our record against you. You want to check it and see how lopsided it is. Memphis is better? Prove it. Oh, that's right, the only proof and facts we have are that UT is BETTER than Memphis. UT won this year on YOUR court and last year on their's.
You're the stupid one and look more stupid every time you post
Posted by thesavageorange on March 25, 2008 at 3:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overatedtigers ,You think you're making people mad?Bwa ha ha ha!
This message board is dull and lacking and I come in with some hurtful facts and boy does it come to life.
Uhhh,what facts?What you give is opinion, and then you try to blast us for giving facts. rbhobbs73 is right.You contradict yourself every other sentence.
If you don't use common sense and objectivity in an argument, your not making anyone mad, you're making them laugh.
Posted by mparker on March 25, 2008 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overratedvols;
c'mon, stop the bull; vandy and sienna have nothing whatsoever to do with anything.
Very few people beat vandy at Memorial. Very few people beat UK at Rupp.
I honestly have NO idea about Louisville. As I posted earlier, lots of people built up Butler as a team to kick our butts. They didn't, and we had to play putz-ball to let them back in. Butler is good, and doesn't give up.
I can't see UL running us out of the gym. That would be bad for you, since we basically played badly and still beat you.
True BBall fans acknowledge Derrick Rose as a killer. I think it's a joke that CDR is rated over Rose. Rose wins you games, he is the player who keeps things going.
Something else: you are under-using Willie Kemp. the dude is a tough player.
Don't get me wrong about CDR, he is an All-American player. I just think Rose is better.
You have your same weakness, tho, and that is you have, well, questionable insdie play.
Posted by mparker on March 25, 2008 at 3:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
also, overrated, a little add-on;
if we beat UL does NOT mean squat other than going on the the next round.
Getting to the final four would mean something. It'll take years to wipe away the bad memories of last years OSU f*ckup. Years.
Good luck to the Tigs, I think they take Mich State and get to play Texas...
Posted by mparker on March 25, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
blabbing like a dang woman, I am;
last bit, I promise:
most overrated team left: UCLA. They basically got the game handed to them against A%M. A whistle every 2 seconds against the aggies. Total crap.
Most dangerous teams left: Wash State, Wisonsin; both can beat the crap out of you down low.
Posted by GoVol on March 25, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Memhphis has a very good team, but they'll get out-coached and lose a close one at the free throw line. Will not make the final four this year.
Posted by VOLS85 on March 25, 2008 at 3:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overated, spell your name right and be a bigger man. Just because there were a few stupid fans on your blogging site doesn't mean you need to lower yourself to them. I don't recall doing this on your site and 99% of the people on here haven't.
You have your stupid fans, so do we, too bad for you that you fit into your stupid fan category. Classy guy though
Posted by bleed_orange on March 25, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TN vs Louisville will be a great game. Defense,Turn-Overs,Rebounding=Effort (Who wants it more will win). TN averages more Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, fewer Turn-Overs, fewer blocks, shoot about the same from the Field, 3-PT line & Foul Line. The starting line-up and Bench is about the same. These 2 teams all so close it's crazy. TN 75-Louis 72= VOLS MOVE ONTO THE EILITE 8 TO FACE NC OR MAYBE EVEN WASH ST FOR A CHANCE TO GO TO THE FINAL 4! GO VOLS!
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
bernardo the king, The last 3 times we've played it's 2 wins Tenn. and one Memphis. We play again next season. We will win. It will then be 2 and 2 over the last 4 games. What will you have to say then? I stay amazed at how the vol people look at that game. It was no blowout. If we hadn't of fought over that rebound when we were ahead by 1 with less than 30 secs to go we probably win the game. To listen to you guys it would seem it was a blowout. The game stayed close througout despite the fact that our big man didn't show up nor did anybody else except for Rose. Also, as I have previously stated over the last 3 games it's 2 for vols 1 for the Mem. If one or two things had of happened differently in that game it's two wins for Mem and one for Vols in the last 3 games.
We played bad, we choked. Our worst game of the season. It still doesn't change the fact that we are better. You won the game but we are the better team. Now, take a look at your game against American. Truth is, they could have beaten you. If they had of would you say they were the better team? Of course not. You'd say they played a better game that day but we are really better. Get it? We have the better team.
Now if you beat Louisville and we lose to Michigan St. then you are the better team..no doubt. So, let's see.
Posted by thesavageorange on March 25, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Agree on UCLA.What is the lovefest w/ the Bruins?I don't think Memphis is just good ,I think their great.They have enough NBA guys on that roster to compete in the NBA's Eastern conference.Whoever wins the South(Memphis or Texas IMO)will make it to the title game.
overated,That is how you imply objectivity.
Posted by hiresanders on March 25, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Pearl is no Pettino, they're not even in the same league. Bruce has not even been to the elite 8 and Rick has Final Fours and a National Title. Get real. That's like comparing Fulmer or Neyland to Knute Rockne.
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
North Carolina is the other media darling thesavageorange. You have one in your region. Whoever wins the Tenn. Louisville game is who I will be pulling for to beat NC.
Posted by bernardking on March 25, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
To the overrated dumbazz
No one said we blew you out. The American analogy is stupid.
Again, you don't like the facts. Truth bothers you doesn't it? You got beat on your home court by the only team you played after the beginning of your conference schedule ( a joke). Face the facts...they all point to the VOLS being the better team.
Go check the all time series results. SEE, I have facts to back me up. You have an uninformed opinion to back you up.
Face it, until we play again, we are the better team.
Think Dorsey can keep from being such a thug the next time we play? Or do we have to make him look like a little boy again.
You will beat Mich St, I have no doubt
Posted by VOLS85 on March 25, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
you continue to make your memphis brethren look stupid "overated". Stop being as childish as the tennessee fans on your site. You're lowering yourself and in no way do you sound intelligent as a result. Go talk about the help that your tigers need to beat mich st. and we'll talk about ours. You realize you look like a complete fool right?
Posted by marc_ash on March 25, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overatedvols,
"You can dig and dig and point out everything you can think of in the Vols favor but you can't change the fact that Memphis is better"
Hey yo-yo....UT beat you...in Memphis....how can Memphis be better than UT? Spin-spin-spin...how are you going to spin that one?
Posted by marc_ash on March 25, 2008 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overatedvols,
YOu might want to stop worrying about Louisville and start worrying about Michigan State there young man. I can assure you, if Memphis goes down you have sure sparked the interest of a lot of Vol fans coming to visit you on the commercial appeal.
Better yet, please tell us your log in name in the CA...do you at least have the courage to do that?
Posted by thesavageorange on March 25, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overated, You better wait to see which of your guys are coming back next yr before claiming a victory in K'Ville.(A venue Tennessee hasn't lost in in 2straight yr's)
Allen:SR gone.Dozier:NBA ready..?CDR and Rose=both lottery picks...?
Posted by thesavageorange on March 25, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I forgot about Dorsey: SR is gone as well.
Posted by VolCane7979 on March 25, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overrated,
No matter how you want to put the dress on that pig... it still ended up 66-62. In your house. UT is better. End of story. Thanks for playing though.
Posted by rbhobbs73 on March 25, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Overrated,
How hard is this to comprehend....
Tennessee 66 Memphis 62 - game played at Memphis.
CASE CLOSED.
IT is the fact that trumps all others!!!!
Posted by VOLS85 on March 25, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
hahaahah, this has got to be some 7th grade kid who got in way over his head trying to talk smack and has nothing to back it up...
Posted by GoVol on March 25, 2008 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overated thinks he is getting to us vol fans, when in fact we are simply laughing at his stupidity. Thanks for the humor today overated! come back again when you have more jokes to tell.
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm not worried about Mich. State just like I was not worried about Miss. State. There is no need to be. They think they can win. I'm sure 90% of the national media think they will indeed win. That we are from Conf usa and have only played bad teams and we can't shot free throws. Mem. will lose. Yet the truth is, we will win. Afterwards the story will not change.no respect. We have been to the elite 8 two straight times and back to the final 16 this year, still no respect. They will say we don't have a chance against Texas. It never changes. We continue to win and it just kills everybody. Most of us love it but it bothers others.
I'm looking forward to Texas at Texas. Now that will be a challenge. That team could be the best in the nation at this point or at least playing that way and it's a home game. Will be a real challenge. Michigan St....bye bye.
I mention Louisville more because I have so much doubt that you can beat them. If you do i'll have to go back and question my basketball knowledge because with the way you have been playing, I don't see it. Now, if you were to play a really really great game, like you are capable of you might win or at least keep it close but I just have not seen you guys play well in a long time. I thought you played well in the Memphis game but not since. Take it as an insult if you must but i'm not trying to insult. I'm telling the truth. Memphis went thru a month to month and a half where they did not play well and honsetly they never totally have climbed out of it but they are playing better now. You are still in that slump. Unless you play better you will lose. It's just a fact.
Marc_A** you were the one that came over and did the most talking of anyone on the memphis site. So, other vol fans can thank you and about 100 other vol people for me being here.
Posted by IBleedOrange444 on March 25, 2008 at 4:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Overated-
There are so many ifs, buts, would haves and should haves in your 3:31pm post that it is just ridiculous!
If UT had just recruited better and hit more shots and played better defense and won more games then we wouldv'e won the NC every year!
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas!
I hope we both make it to the Final 4 so I can keep bagging on you for a little while longer. You're a complete tool.
Posted by Laydbakvol on March 25, 2008 at 4:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Chill!
Tennessee 81
Louisville 69
You heard it first here.
Posted by EastTNVol on March 25, 2008 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I was just looking at Memphis' schedule for the year. Not only was their Conference schedule about as weak as you can find, but their non-conference schedule was pretty pathetic as well. Arizona wasn't a great team, didn't deserve to be in the NCAA. USC was decent, but other than OJ Mayo they have nothing. Georgetown was good but in my opinion vastly OVERATED (lol), as was Conneticut. You played 2 SEC teams this year. The weak SEC that is, that you can't respect, yet in both instances the weak SEC done pretty well. MSU pushed you to the limit in the NCAA tournament. Probably had a few Memphis fans sweating that one out. Then there is the other weak SEC team that you faced. Which did nothing more than stop the Tigers longest in the nation home court winning streak at 47, cost you an undefeated season, and showed everyone the weaknesses of the Tigers. In my opinion the WEAK SEC did pretty good against your tiggers. There are at least 7 SEC teams that could have beaten everyone of the Conference USA teams as you did. In home and home games those same seven teams probably would split with your mightier than thou tigers. I'll take a WEAK SEC over your pathetic Conference USA anytime. Just a question, when Louisville and everyone else left the conference why did Memphis not leave as well. Were they afraid of competition in the Big EAST or some other Conference that would've gladly taken them? Something to think about HUH
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
GoVol you know you love it. What would this board be without me. You'd all be sitting here saying silly things such as.
I think Pearl is the greatest coach in the nation, don't you.
I think we'll win the national championship and I don't think Louisville can touch us.
We got cheated. We should have been a 1 seed. Forget the fact that we limped into the ncaa tournament. The refs cheated. They were great in the memphis game but they were horrible in the vandy game. Tyler Smith should be named player of the year. Pearls a better coach than Pitino.
You know..just the usual trash among fans where you boast of your team. Point to articles that say good things about your team..boring..boring. I give you motivation to defend your team.
Here's the bottom line guys. As much as you want to think the Vols have arrived as a basketball powerhouse that will be good year after year..come here..come close..... they are not.
You know as well as me, their season ends Thurs. night.
Hey you have a great women's team and your football team is one of the best year in and year out. Why does it kill you to have to be second to Memphis in basketball? I'll not argue about your ladies team or your football team being better. What's the deal with basketball?
Let go of the hostilities and jealousy. It' not good for you.
Best ever for Tenn. basketball sweet 16. I'm not going to even mention our 2 final 4's and 3 elite 8's nor the 73 championship game against UCLA.
rbhobbs73 - Seedings - Memphis a one .. Tenn a two. Rankings Memphis 2. Tenn. 5.
Posted by EastTNVol on March 25, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
We were not second best to Memphis this year in BBall. Last time I checked Tennessee 66 Memphis 62. On your home court even
Posted by VOLS85 on March 25, 2008 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Overated...memphis hasn't accomplished anything in basketball and is not any better. We were on par this year, and you had the chance to prove that you were being disrespected and you absolutley blew it. Shut up, go home, your points count for zero.
Posted by GlennMaxwell on March 25, 2008 at 4:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I haven't been a part of this conversation, EastTNVol, but one thing you say begs for a response.
Memphis didn't decline to join the Big East or any other conference out of fear of competition. That's ridiculous. We didn't go to the Big East because, frankly, we weren't invited. Believe me, I wish we had been. There were probably a number of factors involved, one being that we don't have a very strong football program (which I'll be the first to admit). Going strictly by basketball, however, Memphis would be an attractive addition for any conference and we'd gladly make the jump. Obviously, we need a higher level of competition; you don't go undefeated in league play for two consecutive years unless you're in a league beneath your ability.
The Memphis basketball team would compete for the league title in any conference in the country, and that certainly includes the SEC. We're consistently better than the bottom half of SEC teams and are competitive with the best.
If you want to flame Memphis for being in a lousy conference, fine. We are. But don't make it sound like we're in this conference because we're afraid to be in a better one; we'll gladly take you up on that challenge.
Posted by mparker on March 25, 2008 at 4:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overrated;
imho, you will not overlook Mich State. Your danger with them is that the msu guards outplay you, which you can never predict. I think you have an advantage on offense.
As for UTex, should you play them: the danger for you is that UTex's guards can D you up AND UTex plays tough inside.
UTex played killer against UTenn, really the game was never close. That was early, and Tyler was still working in. Still, Utex was better underneath AND out top in that game.
As I've said, your worries are that your inside guys don't show up. If that happens, even Mich State can beat you. Miss State came pretty close, so that most likely gets Mem's attention.
Posted by MOOREVOLS on March 25, 2008 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Overall series between Tennessee and Memphis:
Tennessee 12 wins
Memphis 7 wins
And yes, that is in basketball. We don't need to mention football or any other sport where the difference is even worse.
No more needs to be said.
Posted by overatedvols on March 25, 2008 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
EatTnVol there you go, just like i said, digging for everything you can. Stats, schedules, conferences and then you come in with the usual. 66-62. Basically you all say the same thing in every post.
Laydbakvol here is my prediction:
Louisville 86
Tenn. 73
Posted by brownsvillevol on March 25, 2008 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
hey overrated every sports media outlet has memphis picked to be the first #1 seed to lose.thats gotta sting.
Posted by FLAVOLS on March 25, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Overrated,
Your knowledge is questionable. That being said, this is the reason the games are played. We will see this week whether these teams are really worthy. IMO if Louisville starts to run with us it will only open up our offense again which we desperately need. Getting our guys on the run and then getting Lofton into his rhythm will spell doom for most teams. We will see. Just gotta love March Madness!!!
Go Vols beat Louisville!!!
Posted by DadwasaVol on March 25, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes, the "usual" win over Memphis, decided on the floor.
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