Posted by FWBVol on May 11, 2008 at 1:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I voted for Maze because I think point guard is the biggest need for the team next year. With the 3-point shot being moved back a foot I don't know if a shooting guard will be as big of a weapon as Lofton has been the last four years. I do think Hopson will impact the team, but from what I've read, he's more of mid-range guy as a shooting guard and we've got guys like Tyler Smith that can already do that.

Truthfully, I hope all of them are impact players that help carry us all the way to the top.

Posted by rpowell on May 11, 2008 at 2:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Maze, b/c we someone w/ experience who can be the "qb" on the court running the offense. The others can be a factor, but not like Maze will be.

Posted by utfan15govols on May 11, 2008 at 2:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I would say hopson, because i have seen the boy play. He has a raw God given talent that i have not seen from some one his age. He has a vertical leap that is unreal. Yes he will have a bit of a growing to do in maturity, but he has a point to prove too. Maze is also a good impact too, because he is older, but hopson is AWESOME!

Posted by LadyVolsEighTimes on May 11, 2008 at 4:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Your entire Team, and for that matter the entire season is defined by your point guards. I to hope Hopson comes in shooting lights out for 30-35 points a game. However if someone can't feed him teh rock he can't shoot it.

Maze or West will define just how fast and high powered our Offense can be this year.

Posted by KingsportVol on May 11, 2008 at 7:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I voted for Dupree.

Posted by pdhuff on May 11, 2008 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I voted for a frittered-up Dupree, also. We know we can count on him as soon as he gets over that cart-toe injury suffered at Halls.

Posted by chkrbrd on May 11, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This year: Maze
After this year: West

Juanny and CLo made other teams change the way they played us. They are both gone. Until we prove we have replaced them, teams will pack it in and dare us to beat them from 15 feet out. Right now, even our best players are best inside 12 feet. I'm not saying we don't have 3ball threats, we just don't have multiple 3ball threats that have proven it, as we have had for 4 years.

Posted by richvol on May 11, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The threat of the three ball is going to be different for everyone. Most everyone will follow the strategy of packing it in as mentioned by chkrbrd. That makes playing fastbreak ball even more important to scoring and pressure defense critical to set it up with steals. Our team will miss JaJuan's steals but this years squad should be much more athletic which will help both critical areas.

I would look for scoring averages to drop nationwide as three point percentages decline. Attempts should decline as well. Hopson and Maze both shoot the jumper and can drive the lane. Tyler Smith can do whatever he wants with focused effort. If Prince and Cameron Tatum improve Tennessee can be a nightmare for anyone to handle.

Posted by txvolsfan on May 11, 2008 at 9:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree on Maze, because with a real PG last year we would have won it all!!!
GO VOLS
TXVOLSFAN

Posted by murrayvol on May 11, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

chkrbrd: Absolutely, with the emphasis on "proven."

Maze can give perimeter shooters opportunities but someone has to make them, consistently.

Posted by mparker on May 11, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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Posted by mparker on May 11, 2008 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

murrayvol;
know how the ohter posters where 'eliminated' on the CBP thread??

I have concerns that pdhuff and general_fritter may now be either 'silenced' or have been replaced by imposters.

I'm thinking ol' WE40 may have been 'greased' as well.

Posted by mparker on May 11, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

...as for the topic; pretty much a tie between West and Maze. One of them has to step it up. JP is no PG, and if fact needs a right-hand and a jumper (ref Tayshaun).

Scotty may light it up, and carry the team, but I'm betting he takes some time to adjsut to SEC defense and SEC officials.

Posted by General_Fritter on May 11, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Kingsport - Dupree couldn't win a kids bubble blowing contest. Here is recent footage of TouchdownTn and Dupree (aka as Chumley):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxUaad...

Posted by johnlg00 on May 11, 2008 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Upon further reflection, I'm not so sure the new 3-pt line will have all that much effect. The shot from the side, i.e., from the corner to about the foul-line extended, will be the same as it is now. The arc will be a little deeper across the top of the free-throw circle. It is still about two feet shorter than the NBA line. True, we don't have any 3-pt shooters of the proven caliber of a Lofton or JaJuan, but we have enough to be a threat. If the defenses pack it in, the premium will be on shifting the ball from corner to corner around the top of the key. When the ball gets to the top of the key, it should be easier to find gaps in the middle when defenders get stretched out trying to cover the corners. It is good that we have a couple of great prospects to play the point, but the determining factor will be team ball movement. It would be a big help if we can apply strong full-court pressure and if we can get better at running out with defensive rebounds. I can hardly wait until the ball goes up for real next season!

Posted by pdhuff on May 11, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mparker 10:40, I fought thru it and I'm back staying the course.

Things happen in the doldrums.

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 11, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

johnlg00 - I see you never played the game. Moving the 3 point shot will defintely have an impact on the 3 point shot - namely in number of shots taken and 3 point shot success completion percentages. When I played ball, I was deadly from the Highschool 3 point shot, but move me back just 6 inches and my shot percentage went way down. Tennessee does not even come close to the 3 point shooters of last year with JaJuan Smith and Chris Lofton.

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 11, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Who is this fritter character? God God. I levae for a few months and this missing link is posting about non sense.

Fritter: What do you know about Dupreee. Get your own material, you poser.

Posted by UTfan4life on May 11, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

SCOTTY HOPSON!!

Posted by KingsportVol on May 11, 2008 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

General thats good stuff.

Posted by General_Fritter on May 11, 2008 at 2:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know a lot about Dupree Touchdown. Did you know that despite a successful business career at the Halls Crossroads Wally World and Kmart, Dupree has a famous rock star cousin? Nah, I bet you didn't know that. Well, here he is Jessie James Dupree:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlwQwM...

Posted by johnlg00 on May 11, 2008 at 2:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, Touch, I only played the game for about 40 years, and was a walk-on as a freshman at UT. When I first got there, I considered myself a pretty good shooter from the top of the key. However, the way we ran that play at UT, the screen was set about a step higher than I was used to from high school. At first, my percentage on that play went down, but after a couple of weeks I felt just as confident as before on that shot, which was about two feet longer than it was in high school. I would also remind you that the original 3-pt line in college ball was inside the top of the free-throw circle, then it was moved back about a foot. Season percentages did not change much. For that matter, NBA 3-pt percentages are about the same as those for the college game, and their line is two feet further back than even the new college line. I think the same thing will happen when players get used to the only slightly longer new distance. Besides, as I said, the shots from the wing down to the corner won't be any longer at all. Unlike some on this board, I don't usually just spout opinions off the top of my head. I don't claim to be right about everything all the time, but I usually try to have some basis for the opinions I express. As I said before, I agree we don't in fact have anyone who has proven himself to be the equal of Chris or JaJuan even at the existing 3-pt distance.

Posted by johnlg00 on May 11, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One other thing about the longer 3-pt distance. Just as the shot is longer--but only from the part of the arc above the foul-line extended--so too is the distance defenders must go to close out on the shooter. A good shooter with an extra fraction of a second to set up will shoot a good enough percentage to be a threat even at a longer distance. However, the wider spacing available around the arc will open up passing and driving lanes into the interior of the defense, which was one of the purposes of the 3-pt shot from the beginning.

Posted by WD40plusVol on May 11, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mparker, got lubed, not greased. Just enough to break loose some tight nuts. Ouch.

Johnlg, don't remember the 3 pt arc being inside the key, unless that was during the initial experimental phase. I'll go see if I can look up that history. However, agree with you about confidence, thus why it didn't make a difference to Chris whether he was toeing the line or putting it up from 30 feet. But you have to have an initial talent for doing it.

Posted by alfrizzle097 on May 11, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

he is just saying they can't move it back along the side line. Its already pretty close to out of bounds.

Posted by TommyJack on May 11, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

johnlg00: Someone knowing what they're talking about is not allowed on here.

Posted by pdhuff on May 11, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Is there any recruits out there who can can a three-pointer and play DT, too?

Apply at TBA or Neyland (before they sell the naming rights).......

Posted by General_Fritter on May 11, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

johnlong00- Not to take sides with the devil (TDTN) but they didn't even have a 3 point shot in the mid 60's. Also, did you ever consider that the pros can hit the longer 3's with high precision because they are well....pros? The highschool and old college 3 point shot is not a hard shot. The newer 3 point shot will make it tougher. the NBA 3 point shot is very hard to hit consistenetly. Guys like Lofton and Houston have the talent to hit from the longer range. Not everyone does. I'm sure you could since you were a walk on at UT. LOL.

Posted by overatedvols on May 11, 2008 at 6:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Fritter, I don't believe the man said anything about shooting the 3 in the 60's. Actually he didn't say anything about shooting the 3 himself at all. Try and read the posts and understand them before critizing and offering us your stellar knowledge.

Posted by gnm53108 on May 11, 2008 at 6:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pd: no dt's but i bet we can get a few more db's.

Posted by splinterdand on May 11, 2008 at 6:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I seem to remember that 3-point arc inside the key as being an experiment the ACC tried during their conference games when the 3-point shot first came into effect. I could be wrong, but that was just way too close.

Posted by pdhuff on May 11, 2008 at 6:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

gnm53108 6:18 - Man sign 'em up, we actually may be going to run a 2-7-2. Name it the swarming gnats. Ride'em down with sheer weight.

Posted by gnm53108 on May 11, 2008 at 6:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pd:i'm reminded of one of my all time favorate commercials.WHERE'S THE BEEF....
as far as basketball is concerned,bruce pearl is the most important returning vol.

Posted by chrisw2967 on May 11, 2008 at 6:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I dont think moving the 3 point line back a foot is really going to matter that much , I dont see too many players right now standing right behind the line attempting the shot , we see more and more players already standing 1 to 2 feet behind the 3 point line now taking deep 3s , how many shots did we see Lofton & Smith take from mars ? we just hope we have a player that can knock them down , we know Tatum can shoot the 3.

Posted by mparker on May 11, 2008 at 7:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

johnlg; aten't you the director of ref's for the SEC??? hmmmm, and you can't get us a fair shake at Rupp or Memorial. Sahme, man shame.

Good debate; my take on the 3 is this: because of the focus it takes to hit the long ball, I don't think it will affect all shooters the same. Before you say 'captain obvious', what I mean is that the more pure shooters will be fine, but it will be tougher for the 'occasional' shooter like Tyler was last season.

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Posted by mparker on May 11, 2008 at 7:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wd40, pdhuff, tommyjack, murrayvol:

good to know you haven't been 'rubbed out' today.

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Posted by mparker on May 11, 2008 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

<i>test</i>

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Posted by mparker on May 11, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Back to the 3 pt line...I like the thought about stertching the D out a bit more up top. You would think that would open up the FT lane a bit more.

One thing is for sure, the announcers will beat us over the head with it.

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Posted by General_Fritter on May 11, 2008 at 9:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

overatedvols - exactly dip weed. If he didn't shoot them and they didn't have the shot when he played, he wouldn't know anything about how hard it is to adjust from the old to the new 3 point shot. He's an old fart now anyway.

Posted by General_Fritter on May 11, 2008 at 9:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

chrisw2967 - you guys just don't get it. JaJuan Smith and Chris Lofton were the exceptions not the rule. Chism shoots about 25% or less from the bonus line. I guess we can bank on about 15-20% next season. Tatum is no Smith or Lofton. The best 3 point shooter left on the team (even though he doesn't take many) may be Tyler Smith - at least among returning players. That doesn't bode well unless you want to put all your money on the Freshmen. Let's hope he is everything they say he is. We already know that Maze is not the best 3 point shooter.....his former coaches words not mine.

Posted by General_Fritter on May 11, 2008 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mparker - actually I'm not snickering. Your post made sense. Tyler didn't feel comfortable launching 3's although he was really pretty good at it last year. He has perfect form on his shot and could develop into a great 3 point shooter. I don't see anyone of the returning starters being that great beind the bonus. Hope someone steps up and proves me wrong, but I think we will have to focus on pull up jumpers and drives to the basket next season. Will be harder without J Smith and Chris Lofton next year.

Posted by invisiblekid on May 11, 2008 at 9:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Apparently, mparker had a comment removed in my short absence, that's some funny stuff man.

You guys are sweating this whole 3 point shooting thing entirely too much. Have you forgotten about Chism? The guy has no conscience and a foot isn't going to make an iota of difference for a player with his deft shooting touch. (This comment written with tongue firmly in cheek to entertain the staff)

Posted by invisiblekid on May 11, 2008 at 9:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

On a more serious note, would getting away from such a heavy reliance on the 3 necessarily be a bad thing for the Vols? Not saying a wholesale change in philosophy but I do remember hearing something once about living by the three. Pearl played the hand he was dealt and went with the strength of the team he inherited, which was bombs away with two of the all-time greats from the 3 point line for the Vols in Lofton and Smith. No reason to think he can't adjust to the strengths of his new players.

Posted by General_Fritter on May 11, 2008 at 10:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

invisible - I agree that we have sometimes lived too much by the three, but if you don't have a 3 point threat, defenses can pack it in and take away the inside game and force you to beat them from outside. When that happens, it is called a long night. Other long nights involve Kingsports goat and a skanky blonde.

Posted by ballewville6 on May 11, 2008 at 10:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

the three point line is only being moved back 1 foot i voted maze becausei belive he is going to be the best pg since watson he is quick and athletic and will have more assist than bothe pg from last years team but scotty will also be a huge impact because his athleticism and his ability to drive the ball to the lane,he want be another chris loften but he will hit shots from 3 point range.this team is the most athletic team that will hit the floor to this point .pg maze/west/prince,sg hopson/tatum/tabb,sf prince/tatum/woolridge/tyler pf tyler/woolridge/prince/chilldress,c chism/williams/jurick there are several players who will play 2 or 3 positions ,UT should be alot better than this past year and offense will be very good but without as many 3s .i wish season tickets would go on sale right now i saw 12 games dane senior year but only 5 last year im buying season tickets this coming year and the rest of my life .

Posted by KingsportVol on May 11, 2008 at 10:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What the General said.Jessie James Dupree for President.Bring back the real TDTN.

Posted by WD40plusVol on May 11, 2008 at 11:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

General, I think we saw that defensive display at some place called the UPS for 'em? no. feed-the-kitty fur-em? No. Fed-up Foreman?

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Posted by WD40plusVol on May 11, 2008 at 11:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Did anyone notice overated made an entire post without mentioning a certain team the resides to the west of Knoxville. Congratulations.

Posted by mparker on May 12, 2008 at 1:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

invisible:
yeah, I had a whole slew of 'em, most of which really weren't all that rowdy. Some folks got nasty on the CBP roast article, so I hit back, then someone started off on religion, which got several of us going...but we won't revisit that.

good to see ya back, guy.

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Posted by mparker on May 12, 2008 at 1:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

About not taking so many 3's....

CBP did what Pitino did at UK years back. Remember (vaguely) Rick's first season at UK?? They shot a ton of 3's, pressed, and ran the break. Pretty much like the Vols the first couple of season's under Bruce. The rationale is pretty simple: if you aren't terribly strong insdie, and you don't have tons of talent, run a 'gimmick' style that ohter teams don't see much (also like Nebraska football with the options used to be).

So, now, UT on PAPER has more athletic talent, should be able to score mid-range and inside. It still IS important to have a 3-game, but more like some posters have said, to keep the D honest.

Posted by mparker on May 12, 2008 at 1:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

About Bobby Maze;

Don't you guys see some Juanie in this kid?? He is a player that fits CBP, in that he's a bit cocky and tough-minded. You know what we are all thinking: Bobby and Danel will compete in practice, both will get better. Same goes for Scotty and Cameron, JP and Tyler.

Posted by mparker on May 12, 2008 at 2:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

...and finally: these are my observations for players going into next season. Don't get all nasty on me, I'll admit I'm just a fan, sure as heck don't know the nuances like some of you;
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Wayne: keep getting smarter, especially with the fouls.

Tyler: we know you'll work on the 3. You could use a bit more time in the game with the handle, but you are good at it. Probably the only 'work' item is composure: you gotta laugh off the hard-fouls and cheating, don't let it mess your game.

Brian: hit the weight room, AND the track.

Ryah: do ya want to play?? You are aenior, get it together and lead by doing what you can, even if it's just being a practice guy.

JP: get a right-hand, get a jumper, get a 3-ball. Hit the weights. You can be a near All-American with your quicks and ups, you just need a few more weapons.

Josh: the fans love you, just keep up the basics: hit the open look, play the tough D, take care of the ball.

Jurick: be ready to red-shirt if Ryan is back and playing.

Woolridge: looking like a red-shirt year for you as well.

Daniel West: hit the weights, shoot the 3-ball, and just be ready to go off the bench without trying TOO hard. You will get good minutes if you can handle them.

Bobby M: listen to CBP ABOVE ALL ELSE. He can give you an arena to be a star, but you can't go your own way. Bruce won't allow it. You have the chance to have UNREAL fun. It should be a PG's dream to have these kids to feed the ball to.

Scotty: Don't know enough about you, but from what I've read: work on the fundies, and bulk up. The SEC will wear you down with big, tough bodies.

Posted by mparker on May 12, 2008 at 2:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

oops, wasn't quite done:

UF shoud be the mental favorite by us to win the SEC this year. To me, it seems better to go into the season with an 'underdog' attitude, especially as we have last 5 players out of our main rotation: Chris, Jajuan, Ramar, Duke, and Jordan.

I'm thinking Bruce will pusth those same buttons: 'look at UF, look at how they pushed us in 2007 with true freshmen playing, we got to get better, guys'.

I have a ton of respect for Billy G at UK and Billy D at UF, and they are going to make life tough. So will Stallings VU.

Night y'll, i'm tired.

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Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 12, 2008 at 6:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'll tell you whose going to be tough this year. Tiger High. LOL.

Posted by johnlg00 on May 12, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A few clarifications of some points I raised that some have objected to.
--I am not and have never been supervisor of SEC officials; same name, different guy. If I had been, instilling backbone and consistency in SEC officials would have been a major priority!
--I cited my brief experience as a freshman walk-on at UT as an example of adjusting to a different distance on a particular shot. We did not in fact shoot 3's in the '60's, though I did in my subsequent b-ball experience in Army ball and on a high-level German sports club team. The point is that shooting is a matter of confidence and trained reflex. That is why the conventional wisdom, when a guy has hit several shots in a row from a particular spot, is to try to back him up a couple of feet. At first, the new 3-pt line will take some getting used to. After a month or two shooting at the new distance, it won't make any difference to good shooters. Also, again, the shots from the wing down to the corner won't be any longer at all.
--Whatever the 3-pt distance is this coming year, the 3-pt shot is not going to be as big a part of our offense as it has been in the past, for the reasons many of you have cited. We will be much stronger inside and we should have several decent mid-range shooters, such as Tyler, Scotty, West, and Maze. Several of the others should be better at mid-range next year as well.
--I was effective enough as a player to give UT athletes a good run in pick-up games into my late 40's. My point is that I have played enough to have informed, if not always 100% correct, opinions on most basketball issues.

Posted by johnlg00 on May 12, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

One more: splinterdand is correct that the 19'9" 3-pt line, the one inside the top of the free throw circle, was an ACC experiment the year before the 3-pt line was standardized in college ball at the current 20'9". When the line is moved out for this coming season, percentages may go down a bit at first and fewer players will take them. The same thing happened when the 3-pt line first came in. Some teams didn't take them at all, and others limited them to one or two players. Now, most players take them at least occasionally. I expect the same thing to happen with the new line.

Posted by splinterdand on May 12, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope the new 3-point line cuts down on the number of three's taken and opens things up for better half-court play. Some people might think I'm advocating a more boring brand of play, but to me, running and gunning is boring and requires less skill to execute. Unless, of course, you can stroke the 3 like Chris Lofton. The most important newcomer? Could be Cameron Tatum. I know he was there last year, but he was redshirted. Pearl is supposedly very high on Tatum. There must be some reason for that.

Posted by overatedvols on May 12, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm thinking the addition of Tyreke Evans of Memphis will have the most impact on the Tenn. team. Once the Vols play Memphis their confidence will be so shaken that they may not be able to win a game afterwards.

Posted by auttat on May 12, 2008 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

overatedvols, ate is already in the past tense, there is no need to add the d.

Maybe you should change your name to belatedvols, since you guys did win those handy-dandy TSWA awards over the weekend. You can claim those as a victory over the Vols. But, last time I checked, 66 is still more than 62.

Posted by TommyJack on May 12, 2008 at 11:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

66>62. Love it, auttat

Posted by UTfan4life on May 12, 2008 at 11:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

the biggest impact will be Cameron Tatum.

...WATCH OUT...

Posted by BADGES0413 on May 12, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)

The only way Tyreke (Drive By) Evans could have an impact against UT next year is if he packs heat during the game.

"High school basketball superstar Tyreke Evans drove a sport utility vehicle away from the scene after a passenger allegedly shot and killed a man last month, according to a Chester Township police affidavit that was released last week. Evans, who lives in the city of Chester, has not been charged with any crime yet."

From what I understand the officials for next years
game against Memphis will be allowed to pat down the Kittens players to make sure they are complying to the no guns allowed policy. That being said, UT should easily go to 7 and 2 against Memphis State since 1996.

Posted by overatedvols on May 12, 2008 at 12:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yep, 66 does equal more than 62 and national champ. game equals better than yet another poor showing in the tournament.
Badges, big words from a program that has just had to kick 2 players off the team and brought one in that has a video out where he is rapping to "We kill em". Wouldn't be so concerned about Memphis. I'd be getting some better deadbolts.

One more time........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8h2Wt...

Posted by BADGES0413 on May 12, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Overbaked,

There is a big difference between rapping about something than actually participating. In case you skipped over this:

"High school basketball superstar Tyreke Evans drove a sport utility vehicle away from the scene after a passenger allegedly shot and killed a man last month, according to a Chester Township police affidavit that was released last week. Evans, who lives in the city of Chester, has not been charged with any crime yet."

Someone is dead and dude was involved end of story.

Posted by Longtimevolfan on May 12, 2008 at 1:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Not Memphis State....Tiger High.!

Posted by BADGES0413 on May 12, 2008 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Longtime,

It took them 127 years to figure out that Memphis is not a State. Of course since the majority of Tennesseans don't claim Memphis, I can see where the kitten fans were confused.

Posted by marc_ash on May 12, 2008 at 2:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually an interesting question. I would be very tempted to say Maze given the lack of play at pg position since CJ Watson left TN. However, not sure any of that would matter without Tyler Smith in the equation. I think Maze will make the best NEW impact, but Tyler will definitely give the Vols that edge that cannot be seen with many other players.

My vote, Tyler.

Posted by marc_ash on May 12, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

overatedvols.

Answer me this one question? why do you keep harping on a NC game vs the head to head? Yep, your team DID make it to the NC game...good job. But you blew it and choked harder than Monica did in Clinton's office. Bottom line is absoultely no one will remember (or care) Memphis for being "runner up" other than for the choke job.

So, championship game or out in the first round, who cares. You still don't have a banner, and with the embarrassment of how you lost the title, I'll take another sweet 16.

66-62.

Posted by overatedvols on May 12, 2008 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Now badge.. you have to resort to the city insults when you can't win the basketball ones.
I invite you to step out of your trailer and hook it up to your john deere and come on over to memphis. You might find it's not so bad. Less trailer parks but still, i'm sure you could find a nice place to live.

Posted by BADGES0413 on May 12, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No thanks Over, not in the mood to dodge Uzi gunfire coming from Tyreke's SUV.

Posted by BADGES0413 on May 12, 2008 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Over,

By the way, I don't have to win basketball arguments. The University of Tennessee's basketball team has taken care of that themselves 6 out of the last 8 games against Memphis.

Posted by brownsvillevol on May 12, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hilarious how these tigirls never respond to the tyreke evans thing.

Posted by overatedvols on May 12, 2008 at 3:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, marcy would rather go to the sweet 16 instead of the NC game... amazing. Some Vols fans expectations leave much to be desired.

Badger, you can keep on winning those games if the Tigers can have seasons like they have had lately. Most wins ever in a season..etc..etc.. If we can make it to national champ games while you guys fizzle out in the sweet 16 i'll take it any day.
Also when the Tigers beat the vols next season it will be 2-2 in the last 4 meetings??? Not what i'd call bragging rights but..well.. to some fans here.. I guess it would be. Also you take a 5 point swing in this years game and it's Memphis 2 to 1..so not exactly what i'd call domination. Also the years when the Vols were in the cellar you wouldn't play us and that was quite a few years.
Still, Tigers have had much success with their recruiting and It seems we will be very good again next year. I have to believe that there are many here that are converting. Becomming fans of an exciting team that always seems to challenge for the national champ. instead of win a game or two.

Posted by InMyBlood on May 12, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pearl cameo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJqNdX...

Posted by BADGES0413 on May 12, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's see-----

National Championships B-ball won by Memphis = 0
National Championships B-ball won by UT = 0

OK, so we are tied in this category so until one of the above turns that zero into a one I will go with records against the other school. I know we are 6 and 2 since 1996, but could you let me know our record against Memphis all time? It could be worse but Dana Kirk and Larry Finch refused to play UT for the most part. Pearl has had no problem beating Calapari, he is very good at reading tendencies and knows Memphis has a high propensity of choking. Cal proves it anytime he has been in a game that means something. It really has to be a burr in the craw of Memphis to know that their only chance to go 1 up on UT in anything was choked away by their revered coach.

Posted by overatedvols on May 12, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ah.. so the UT game was one of only two that meant something huh? Forget Southern Cal, Georgetown, Oklahoma, UConn, Cincinatti, Arizona,
Gonzaga, UAB, Miss. St., Michigan St., Texas and UClA. Only Tenn, and Kansas were games that mattered. Ha.. badger... get a grip. I'm afraid you think too highly of your program there.
Also you conveniently show one stat: National Championships 0. Of course if we had of won you would have put Multiple National Champioships - Memphis 0.. You are a trip.
Why not expand to show something better such as
Elite 8's (Memphis, too many to count) Tenn. - 0.
Final 4's - Memphis 3 Tenn - are you kidding.
National Champ. games - Memphis 2 , Tenn - ha ha ha ha ha. Any stats beyond sweet 16 and Tenn. scores a big 0. Yet you try to talk as if you are a big time program. You have to accomplish something before you can talk. Now, if you had of beaten Louisville and made it to the "elite" 8 .. maybe you'd have a case. ..but...
You also have a short Memory. I believe it was mr. Devoe that wanted no part of Memphis. We were an elite team back then also and mysteriously Tenn. wouldn't agree to play us.
You can talk all you want Badger..but the simple fact remains. Memphis has a better basketball program than Tenn. Deny it.

Posted by MOOREVOLS on May 12, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tennessee's record against Memphis all time is --
Tennessee 12
Memphis 7

Also, during the early 2000's it was Memphis that wouldn't play Tennessee. They wanted to play Tennessee in football for the big pay day, but they didn't want to play Tennessee in basketball because of what's happening right now. Tennessee is getting better and Memphis can't win. Tennessee said basically if you won't play us in basketball we won't play you in football. Needing the big football payday caused Memphis to change their minds. That's the only reason Memphis is playing Tennessee now in basketball.

Posted by MOOREVOLS on May 12, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Devoe is the coach that started the Memphis rivalry. That was in 1989 and Tennessee won the game.

Posted by BADGES0413 on May 12, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Over,

I know it helps psychlogically to talk about your problems over and over and overated again. You must have learend that in 11th grade psych at Melrore High. You still can't come to grips with the fact that UT's basketball program is Elite and has no problem beating this supposed elite Memphis program. Poor Coach Cal knows that choking can become contagious and seems to have caught on. How can you respect a coach that can't hold the lead in the only game that matters? He can win all the recruiting wars, UAB games, etc he wants, but until he can beat Tennessee or win a National Championship the program is nowhere near Elite.

Posted by overatedvols on May 12, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Moore, I guess the fact is that Memphis needs Tenn in football and Tenn. needs Memphis in basketball. The game clearly means more to Tenn. than it does to Memphis. Memphis is already a big time program and Tenn. is trying to become one. Just the facts. Any ole fool would know it.. right Brownie

Posted by BADGES0413 on May 12, 2008 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I heard somewhere that big time programs don't choke in big time games. Memphis choked against UT and Kansas. Also, Calapari wanted to drop UT from their schedule. He almost had to be shamed into playing UT the last few years by his AD. Then he wanted to move the game to Nashville becasue he is afraid of Pearl coming to Memphis once every 2 years. Now I know why he wanted to drop the game, falling to 1 and 3 vs his biggest rival after next years game has to be an embarassment.

Posted by MOOREVOLS on May 12, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

overrated-you don't have to talk facts to me. I lived the first 31 years of my life in Memphis and still have alot of family in the Bartlett and Arlington areas. I know all about Memphis sports. I know Memphis has had many very good, if not great teams. But, they've had many down years too. I was a kid during the Larry Finch, Ronnie Robinson, Billy "The Kid" Cooke and "Dead Eye" Dexter Reid years and was plenty old enough to know all about Keith Lee, Phillip "Doom" Haynes, Baskerville Holmes and all the rest. So I know almost as much about Memphis as I do Tennessee.

I know one thing for sure--Tennessee can do without Memphis in basketball a whole lot easier than Memphis can do without Tennessee in football. 99% of the Tennessee fans look at Memphis as just another basketball game. But for Memphis, Tennessee is "the" game, no matter what the sport is. Tennessee just wants to play basketball in Memphis for recruiting and there's no other reason. After the way Memphis fans acted toward the Tennessee game this past season I'd say the Tennessee fans will have a little more interest in the Memphis game here this next season.

Posted by overatedvols on May 12, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Badger you skated past what I asked.. pretty slick. Your "You are only elite if you win the national championship" is nonsense. You know it, I know it and everybody knows it. So why say it?
If you want to continue to talk about choke then let's examine your performance in this years tournament. I guess I should say tournaments. What about the big time Vandy choke. Come on now. i'll always have a comeback simply because Memphis has the better program. Tenn. has the better football program and Memphis the basketball. What's so hard about that? I'm freely admitting the Vols football program puts the Tigers to shame. Why can you not admit the same about the Tigers basketball program. Our football team beat the Vols and yet we still knew we weren't the better team.

Posted by volwalk on May 12, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The fact is we haven't been a big time program in basketball until the Pearl era. And now that we are mempuss can't take it and some of their fans like to hang out on our site and cry about the would'ves, could'ves and should'ves.. Face the facts: Mempuss is a great basketball school and now that UT has joined the upper tier of college basketball...Some of the haters like to come and rain on our parade...Here is another fact we are at the same level of greatness that your mempuss basketball team is and when it comes to head to head---THE BIG ORANGE has DOMINATED your beloved tigers. Get it over it---The Basketball VOLS are here to stay and the tradition will only get better.

Posted by auttat on May 12, 2008 at 4:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

overatedvols, one more time, 66 is greater than 62.

Bye-bye, see you next year.

Posted by volwalk on May 12, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Are you kidding me??? Vols football over mempuss football is similar to mempuss basketball over VOLS basketball. I may agreed when we had Buzz but now that we got Pearl and we kick you A$$ head to head 6 out of 8....You have no argument. When is the last time a mempuss football team made it to a New Years Bowl game???? To relate to NCAA Tourney that would be like a Sweet 16 Appearance. mempuss, what a joke...the more you post the more your ignorance shows.

Posted by overatedvols on May 12, 2008 at 4:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Volwalk says that the vols are at the same level of greatness. Ha.. this for a team that has not advanced past the sweet 16...ever. You guys are fun cause you just cannot bring yourself to admit the Memphis superiority at anything. You think Tenn. has to have that title. the fact is we've been really good on a fairly consistant basis since 73..that's 35 years. You guys come along with a good year and talk as if you are the kings of basketball.

Posted by volwalk on May 12, 2008 at 5:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Since you brought up football---what is your preseason ranking??? Are you guys looking to make a BCS game or maybe a New Years game??? Since your football team is like our basketball team---you should be looking good--maybe not a National Championship game or a BCS bowl birth but a good solid Top 10 finish and a News Years Bowl game. WOW. this is news to me---wasn't aware that mempuss had such a solid football team--thanks for the insight mempuss fans...I will go check it out.

Posted by brownsvillevol on May 12, 2008 at 5:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you're the only fool i see here overrated tigirl.no need to squabble with this memphidiot.
oh yea....... tennessee is a better program tham memphis and we will destroy you next season.idiot.

Posted by overatedvols on May 12, 2008 at 5:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whew..where to start. Badger your posts are beginning to be like RobVol.. no sense at all.
Volwalk i don't think we have ever been in a new years day bowl game. I do believe we were in a new years eve bowl game .. i think it was the Detroit bowl.. impressive huh? I make no claims to Tiger football. I've said that over and over.
MooreVols, i'm impressed with your posts. You definitely have some idea of what you are talking about which is more than I can say for most on here. I am impressed with your recollection of past players...not bad at all...even bill cook and dexter reed.
I do have to disagree with you on the tenn. doing without memphis in basketball easier than memphis doing without Tenn. There are years that we don't even play Tenn. in football. There was about 3 or 4 seasons where we did come darn close to beating you guys everytime we played.
Our biggest football game each season is Ole Miss. Not Tenn. and in basketball it's always been Louisville. They are gone so I guess it defaults to Tenn. but hopefully we'll be back in a conf. with Louisville soon so we can go back to hating them. I think Tenn. is just a fill in team. Tenn, just doesn't have the history in basketball like Lousiville does.
So you think the Vol fans will take a diff look at the Memphis game next season huh. I hope they don't get like the UAB crowd. If so, you know Pierre might slap a few.

Posted by brownsvillevol on May 12, 2008 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you see overated tigirl that is our problem with you and bob(mr.law school)bryd tigirl.you guys ONLY have a basketball program and WE have many athletic programs.

Posted by invisiblekid on May 12, 2008 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

General, in response to the 10:21 post, notice I did say that I wasn't suggesting wholesale changes but do agree with the need to have a three point threat to keep the defense honest. As far as the goat and skanky blondes, no comment.

Posted by overatedvols on May 12, 2008 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brownie, special message to you. the Tigers will beat the Vols next season.

Posted by TK on May 12, 2008 at 5:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why do you VOL fans reply to people who are not Vol fans??? They are like any animal...if you feed it they will not go away. I think Scotty Hopson will have the most impact on the team. Maze needs to shut up and play before he opens his mouth. "Talk is cheap...supply exceeds demand" - Mark Twain

Posted by brownsvillevol on May 12, 2008 at 6:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

that is a mighty bold prediction since you only have a 25% win at TBA but then again you are a memphidiot tigirl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by rckydx on May 12, 2008 at 6:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

overrated memphis has had more lean years in basketball over the last 35 years than good. It took Cal five years at memphis to start winning. I know you remember the wayne yates era. Tic Price. Larry Finch. Probation years.

Posted by rckydx on May 12, 2008 at 6:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Overated the Tigers are not an elite program. It can not compare with UK, UNC, UCLA, Duke, Louisville, NC State, UNLV, Texas, Florida, Kansas, Maryland, UC, Syracuse, Georgetown, Connecticut, LSU, Arkansas, Arizona, and more.

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 12, 2008 at 7:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Did Memphis get it all over her blue dress too?

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 12, 2008 at 7:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

overatedvols: do you also plan to win the lottery?
Pearl owns Memphis. Remember?

Posted by robvols on May 12, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OVERATED DOES NOT KNOW WHAT NEXT YEAR NOR SEASON IS

LET'S SEE HERE:

THE TIGERS LOSE EVERYBODY; THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS FROSH CLASS WILL BE THAT GOOD.
THE VOLS GET A STRONG CLASS COMING IN (LED BY HOPSON) AND AN UPGRADE AT THE POINT

THE GAME WILL BE IN..................KNOXVILLE NOT MEMPHIS.

THERE YOU HAVE IT- MORE TO SHOW WHY OVERATED IS LEAVING IN A FANTASYWORLD.

There is word at the Tennessean website in a couple of user comments section under Vol articles that Mempuss fans are getting feisty over the addition of Maze. Either they are jealous or crying foul that we were able to overcome the losses of Crews and Smith with an upgrade.

Posted by jasvol on May 12, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Overated: take your scientology assss off our site. It's obvious based on your 'rambles' that you live in a delusional state of mind...which is the world according to 'Momphes'.

Posted by threehundredbowler on May 12, 2008 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Memphis is no where near the Vols in anything.

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 12, 2008 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually Memphis can boast a higher ranking in one area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mon0uo...

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 12, 2008 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuJlz4...

We now know the answer. Monica Memphis Lewinski

Posted by budrhon on May 12, 2008 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Or was that Memphis Monroe TDT?
(I approve of this message on behalf of the KNS)

Posted by rckydx on May 12, 2008 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

overated hang another NIT banner. We don't want one.

Posted by robvols on May 12, 2008 at 9:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jasvol,

Overated does not know what get your a$$$ off our site means. He didn't understand me in another post when I told him why he is still here a month after the college basketball season ended, that we don't want him here, and go back to your own fan board.

Posted by overatedvols on May 12, 2008 at 10:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey here's one for you touchdown. I hear the reporter asked to never have to interview him again: Such a class act:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsGCIt...

Rckydx, your posts are totally ridiculous. Let's see, Memphis is not in the same league as,
NC State, UNLV, Texas, Maryland, UC, Syracuse, Georgetown, Connecticut, LSU, Arkansas, Arizona, and more. Pleaseee.........

Robvols, i've already written your posts off as ridiculous. You don't even deserve a reply. Refering to next years game you say that we lose everybody and there is no guarantee that our freshman class will be that good and yet when you name why Tenn will win you say you have a great freshman class coming in. Hmm...so..there is no guarantee that the memphis freshmen will be good but it seems there is one that the Vol freshmen will be good. Typical Vol comment.

Posted by robvols on May 12, 2008 at 10:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey overstayed,

Is it because YOU CAN'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH BECAUSE THE TRUTH HURTS?

You have called every anti-Memphis posts as ridiculous because each posts contains the TRUTH. We VOLS FANS know how to recognize facts from fantasy. You can't accept the FACTS because you REFUSE to recognize it because you don't want to ADMIT IT. You make one bold prediciton of beating us without realizing that Tyler Smith is coming back, that we added an upgrade in Maze after the loss of Smith and Crews (Williams will offset that and so will Prince), and have a strong class coming in headed by Hopson? Therefore,not only are you a complete IDIOT, you are an IGNORAMOUS MORON.

Please go back to the board where you belong and stay there until it is time for the game.

DO WE NEED TO TRANSLATE THIS IN SPANISH?

Posted by mparker on May 12, 2008 at 11:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey y'all, I see overrated has you worked up again.

I will say this: I'd really like to see Mem step it up in football. Why not?? They have a good location with accss to Ark, Indiana, Chicago, Miss, Kentucky, Iowa, and kanasa (just looking at states within a few hours drive). Good rivalries are good for your program.

Remember when Auburn was one of our fottball rivals?? VERY heated.

Posted by mparker on May 12, 2008 at 11:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Speaking of rivals....it's been a while since I lived in the southest. Has the Bama rivalry changed??

It used to be fun. I can remember visiting Gatlinburg on the 3rd weekend in October and seeing the palce full of orange hats and crimson hats. Everyone was pretty friendly and loved to talk about the game.

Nowadays, I see a lot of 'I hate bama' or 'I hate UK' or stuff like thatn.

I mean, to me, if you want to hate, HATE Jim Delaney and HATE Ohio State. They are obstructing our football playoff!!!!

Posted by gnm53108 on May 13, 2008 at 12:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mparker...i might be a little old school but i would go see tn play bama if they played in bagdad,or birmingham,same thing.good natured jibes,trash talking.for the most part a great college football experence.to me that is our biggest game of the year.

Posted by robvols on May 13, 2008 at 12:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bama may be a classic rivarly, but the BIG 10 is our MORTAL ENEMY, especially Ohio State-the school that thinks they are all that.

Thank goodness we are talking football for a change.

THE MORTAL ENEMY LIST

THE BIG 10
OHIO STATE
ESPN
NICK SABAN

KNOCKING TO COME IN
JOHN CALIPARI
MEMPHIS FANS

PREVIOUS STAYS
STEVE SPURRIER = THE FLORIDA GATORS
MICHIGAN

Posted by gnm53108 on May 13, 2008 at 12:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

robvols...you forgot a couple.penn state,notre dame,and chris fowler.i know you mentioned espn but he needs his own notation.

Posted by overatedvols on May 13, 2008 at 12:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I do believe your big orange caravan was in Memphis today. Both Fulmer and Pearl were here.
I'm not sure but I think I heard something on the 10 o'clock news about a double mugging and the name Vols..... you better check on em.

Posted by pdhuff on May 13, 2008 at 5:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TK Back on 5:42 -No truer words were ever uttered.

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 13, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Heh I don't blame Pearl for that one. She's a looker. And for all we know, the dress remained clean.

Posted by TommyJack on May 13, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What PD said about TK

Posted by brownsvillevol on May 13, 2008 at 12:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

what TJ said about PD saying about TK

Posted by Longtimevolfan on May 13, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey everyone....

Overated is just like all the other Tiger High fans. They resort to smoke and mirrors because they have nothing else to use. They can't seem to understand that choking in the big game is bad. All they see is they made it to the game. They don't want to admit that they HATE UT when they lose to UT. But everyone knows that the Tiger High kitty cats and their Highland 100 club all HATE UT. The UT game is the biggest game on their schedule in all sports. Over/under you can deny it all you want, but I have a LOT of Tiger High friends and associates that prove you wrong. Losing to UT is the absolute worst thing that can happen. In football, it is always one of those under the table things because they know it probably won't happen. In fact your football rally cry is "Wait until Bas-etball season". You can argue that it isn't, but I live in West TN and have all my life, so I know and you know, even if you don't want to admit it to the Vol Nation.

I have relatives that are avid Tiger High fans...some that donate very large sums of money to the school...so don't give us any b.s. that the game isn't circled on the schedule...like I said, I know better....you just can't stand it. Give it up, your record against UT is a losing one.

Also, UT tried to schedule Memphis back in the Grunfield/King days and Memphis would NOT play them. There is nothing you can argue here, because it is a FACT. Memphis needs UT more than UT needs Memphis. Why? for the $$$

Again I say, go back to your kitty cat den, lick your wounds from the KS choke game, and come back when Tiger High grows up. Even if you win next year, you will still have a losing record against UT!!! The program you seem to think Tiger High dominates.

Posted by DaddyVol on May 13, 2008 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't think there is any question about this one. Scotty Hopson will be one and done, and that will catch recruites eyes! There is just as big of a need to fill Lofton's shoes as there will be for a point gaurd. Bobby Maze is just icing on the cake. Maze will help alot up front, but the Hopson recruit really could have set the tone for this program for a long time, plus he is just SOOOO GOOD!!

Posted by robvols on May 13, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well done, longtimevolfan

THE MORTAL ENEMY LIST (UPDATED 5-13)

THE BIG 10
OHIO STATE
ESPN
PENN STATE
NORTE DAME
NICK SABAN
CHRIS FOWLER

KNOCKING TO COME IN
JOHN CALIPARI
MEMPHIS FANS

PREVIOUS STAYS
STEVE SPURRIER = THE FLORIDA GATORS
MICHIGAN

ANY ADDITIONS? KEEP IT ROLLING. BEWARE OF THE PREVIOUS STAYS LIKE THE GATORS

Posted by TommyJack on May 13, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

robvols: Add Lou Holtz

Posted by brownsvillevol on May 13, 2008 at 3:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

what about kansas state?

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 13, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hopson couldn't perform to his full potential if the point guard postion was not enforced. If Maze and the Freshmen cannot handle the duties we will be in trouble regardless of signing Scotty Hopson. We need a good point guard who can get Hopson and Tyler the ball. We already know that JP is not a point guard. In that respect, Maze and the true Freshmen point guard (one or both of them) are critical for this team's success. you can't win without a good point guard.

Posted by brownsvillevol on May 13, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

very true and i agree tdtn

Posted by golfballs03 on May 13, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm not sure point guard play from either of the two new PG's will be far and away better than that of Ramar Smith. I think the playmaker of this bunch is Scotty Hopson, and we will need some big plays from someone in order to win games on the schedule we have next year.

He's not technically a new guy, but the one person that I think will allow this team to get to the next level is Brian Williams and maybe Jurick if he plays. This will allow Chism and Smith to return to their natural positions with Chism at 4 and Smith at 3. That means Williams has to be a solid center which I think he can be. Getting boards, a few points every game and playing D. He's shown he can do it and I hope he's ready to start later this year.

Posted by TK on May 13, 2008 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ramar was a drive 1st...pass 8th pg. At the first of the year CBP was going to use Josh Tabb at pg because he had a very good asst/turnover ratio. Then he hurt his ankle and then seemed to get in the dog house(?). I think he could be added to the pg mix if he works hard this off season on his game. I hope Bobby Maze can give UT strong pg play without the mouth. I have seen WAY to many young players who's mouth is the best part of their game. I picked Hopson to make the biggest impact. I think he can create his own shot. I would pick Tatum as the sleeper player.

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 13, 2008 at 7:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Go back over the years and look at the top basketball teams boys. Nearly all of them had one thing in common - great point guards. Look at North Carolina before Lawson went down. They were nearly unbeatable. When he went down, they lost a couple right away because their star scorers were not getting the ball as often and they were making more turnovers than creating them. The point guard is the field general. He runs the offense and creates opportunities for everyone. I think not having a true point guard was the single missing ingredient on UT's team last year. I'm excited to see what Maze can do, and I like the fact that he is cocky. I've not seen too many great players that didn't have some swagger.

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 13, 2008 at 7:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Agree with you TK on Tabb and he's a great defensive player. If he could work on the rest of his game, he might be the starter before it is all over......at least a solid backup.

Posted by robvols on May 13, 2008 at 8:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THE MORTAL ENEMY LIST (UPDATED 5-13)

THE BIG 10
OHIO STATE
ESPN
PENN STATE
NORTE DAME
NICK SABAN
CHRIS FOWLER
LOU HOLTZ
KANSAS STATE

KNOCKING TO COME IN
JOHN CALIPARI
MEMPHIS FANS

PREVIOUS STAYS
STEVE SPURRIER = THE FLORIDA GATORS
MICHIGAN

ANY ADDITIONS? KEEP IT ROLLING. BEWARE OF THE PREVIOUS STAYS LIKE THE GATORS

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 13, 2008 at 9:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kevin O'Neil was just hired as an assistant at Memphis. The Memphis players are going to hate practice. What a jerk he is.

Posted by brownsvillevol on May 14, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

robvols don't forget about nebraska as a mortal enemy.

Posted by robvols on May 14, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THE MORTAL ENEMY LIST (UPDATED 5-14)

THE BIG 10
OHIO STATE
ESPN
PENN STATE
NORTE DAME
NICK SABAN
CHRIS FOWLER
LOU HOLTZ
KANSAS STATE
NEBRASKA

KNOCKING TO COME IN
JOHN CALIPARI
MEMPHIS FANS

PREVIOUS STAYS
STEVE SPURRIER = THE FLORIDA GATORS
MICHIGAN

ANY ADDITIONS? KEEP IT ROLLING. BEWARE OF THE PREVIOUS STAYS LIKE THE GATORS

WOW, AND NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THE EGO-CENTRIC USC PROGRAM YET!

Posted by auttat on May 14, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to add Phil Fulmer to the mortal enemy list. He is such a punk! How dare him to ever take a vacation?

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on May 14, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Robvol-

Need to add Workinlikeheck, marijuana, and the anti-playoff Pac 10.
For basketball- the 2 seed.

Posted by Longtimevolfan on May 14, 2008 at 2:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How about Alabama and Overated?

Posted by robvols on May 14, 2008 at 6:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THE MORTAL ENEMY LIST (UPDATED 5-14)

THE BIG 10
OHIO STATE
ESPN
PAC-10
PENN STATE
NORTE DAME
NICK SABAN
CHRIS FOWLER
LOU HOLTZ
KANSAS STATE
NEBRASKA
WORKINLIKEHECK
MARIJUANA

KNOCKING TO COME IN
JOHN CALIPARI
MEMPHIS FANS

WITH A PASSION (NEW)
ALABAMA (always)
OVERATED (can be also added to the soon to be BANNED LIST)

PREVIOUS STAYS
STEVE SPURRIER = THE FLORIDA GATORS
MICHIGAN

ANY ADDITIONS? KEEP IT ROLLING. BEWARE OF THE PREVIOUS STAYS LIKE THE GATORS

WOW, AND NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THE EGO-CENTRIC USC PROGRAM YET!

Posted by robvols on May 14, 2008 at 6:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

FULMER?

We'll need a vote on this, and yes coaches to get lazy during the offseason-it's the only time.

LET THE MEETING ADJOURN TO VOTE THE FATE OF FULMER TO THE MORTAL ENEMY LIST.

Posted by robvols on May 14, 2008 at 6:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THE MORTAL ENEMY LIST (UPDATED 5-14)

THE BIG 10
OHIO STATE
ESPN
PAC-10
PENN STATE
NORTE DAME
NICK SABAN
CHRIS FOWLER
LOU HOLTZ
KANSAS STATE
NEBRASKA
MARIJUANA

KNOCKING TO COME IN
JOHN CALIPARI
MEMPHIS FANS

WITH A PASSION (NEW)
ALABAMA (always)
OVERATED (can be also added to the soon to be BANNED LIST)

CURSED (NEW)
THE 2 SEED

PREVIOUS STAYS
STEVE SPURRIER = THE FLORIDA GATORS
MICHIGAN

IBLEEDORANGE444,

NEED YOUR CASE FOR WORKINLIKEHECK- HE IS ON OUR SIDE

ANY ADDITIONS? KEEP IT ROLLING. BEWARE OF THE PREVIOUS STAYS LIKE THE GATORS

WOW, AND NO ONE HAS MENTIONED THE EGO-CENTRIC USC PROGRAM YET!

Posted by vols1314 on May 14, 2008 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I voted Daniel West, I know he is only a three star, but the only reason he is is because he didn't play AAU ball. He didn't play that because his grades were slipping and CHOSE to stay for summer school. Besides the scouts come watch AAU instead of high school ball.

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 15, 2008 at 6:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope that you right on West, but the coaches didn't go after a Juco because they thought he would be a good backup to a Freshmen. More likely West will get an opportunity at early playing time as a true Freshmen because Ramar Smith is off the team. He might have to redshirt elsewhere. Maze already started for Oklahoma and was a Juco All-American. West played Highschool ball last year.

Posted by leonfatts on May 15, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It doesn't matter who you get or who has the biggest impact. The Kentucky Wildcats are back on top. The Vols don't stand a chance. Which is somewhere that you guys are used to being. On the outside looking in.

Posted by Dawghater on May 15, 2008 at 4:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How is Kentucky back ?????? You got bounced in the first round & cant recruit, by the way I think we have beat you 24 times in a row in football......Just thought I would remind you !!!!!! Go Vols

Posted by leonfatts on May 15, 2008 at 5:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh I'm Sorry.....I thought we were on a basketball forum..Oh wait, that's right, You don't have much of a basketball program so you revert to football for your safety...Just keep watching the CATS and maybe you'll learn something about basketball..

Posted by Dawghater on May 15, 2008 at 6:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Like they taught us this year, I have been to Lexington many times after stomping that -ss in football & they would always say "wait till basketball" I ask you, what happened, will it be wait for badminton next.......Take a seat & by the way Gillespie will be toast in 2 years, while Bruce is landing McDonald All Americans.....C-A-T-S Cats Cats Cats ..... We will sweep your boys next year & make it 25 in a row while your at it.....

Posted by mempuss on May 15, 2008 at 7:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Billy Clyde is watching & waiting.....

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i10...

Posted by volwalk on May 15, 2008 at 7:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice photo mempuss..cuntucky is turning into a real joke. Signing 12 and 13 year old kids???--what a nut for a coach. We are going to spank that a$$ again in football and basketball and take a second straight SEC title. The glory days of cheating are gone for the cuntucky kitties. We own the SEC now! GO VOLS!

Posted by TouchdownTennessee on May 15, 2008 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Heh Kentucky - We are real scared of those children Billy keeps offering. Where do you plan to have the signing, Chucky Cheese?

Posted by robvols on May 15, 2008 at 8:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good,

We are back to our natural tendancies with UK fans. Soon we'll have the Bama crowd back as well.

Posted by brownsvillevol on May 16, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

kentucky's glory days are over and with the loss of 2 of their 3 scorers i for one do not see them as a threat next year.