I may have to drive from Augusta, GA but raising gas prices, raising ticket prices...it sure as heck won't keep me from seeing my Vols any given season!
Everything is getting expensive, including PPV which I usually cave in to at the last minute. Might go see N. Ill or UAB. Walk-up or sidewalk ducats are dirt-cheap. Important to geezers.
My son's van runs on vegetable oil, only. So, no problem with high gas prices for our family. There's so many alternatives to oil now that high gas prices don't bother us anymore. If you don't like high prices quit complaining and do something.
Careful guys. You just identified yourselves as "fairweather".
Since I am the lone football fan (let alone Vol fan) in my household, getting away for a weekend and out of weekend chores occurs once a season regardless of gas prices.
DadwasaVol, just curious, how many McD's do you have stop at to fill a tank? How many miles to the french fry?
My health problems will keep me home more than the price of gasoline.As for the gasoline prics,that will not be a problem as there are 4 of us that share the expenses.If I were going it alone,that would be a different story.With donations and other costs associated with seeing the game live,it will cost me about 400.00 a game today.Donations to buy the ticket and the actual cost of two tickets are about 300.00 each and some people actually have the nerve to want the tickets for free or less.Serious health problems kept me home last year.I offered sell my season tickets{2} for face value and someone called and offered me 100.00 for them.Some people would like to have a bmw but for the price of a used yugo.I'll throw them in the fire first.
TT, my neighbor has an old Ford schoolbus with a 360 V8 that I would put up against the USS Constitution for lowest fuel mileage.
Several years ago 7 of us went to Neyland in that beauty, 315 miles roundtrip. The verdict- 52 gallons of regular at 6 per plus 3 qts of erl and that included coasting A LOT on the return trip. The glasspaks on it sounded good, though. It also took nearly 3 cases of Bud and 10 kielbasa's gave their all as well. Not to mention 3 bags of chips. I think we won that day.
Maybe we should pull it out of the weeds and present it to Phil as a token of our appreciation.
The only thing that depends on whether or not I am going to travel to see the Vols depends on what kind of product Phil puts on the field. If they are unprepared at the beginning of the season like last year at Cal and Florida you can forget it. But if they come on strong at the end like last year then I may go see them play for the SEC title again. Lets Go Underachieving Vols! Only time will tell what Phil has in store for us.
By the time football season starts you may not be able to get fuel. Record # of repo's of tractor rigs due to the truckers can not affor to deliver goods which includes fuel. I know of at least 2 gas station in the N Atlanta area which are already having trouble gettin fuel delivered because of the rising cost of desiel. You better be contacting your elected officals before the greed from the oil corps drives us all out of business. Over $4 in Atlanta now and at this rate a gallon of gas will cost more than a hours work at the min. wage level soon. If you think it is a joke or funny you may be out of work soon because of this. By fall they are predicting $8 a gallon and increase of at least 15% on food, 20% on clothing so just keep worring if you can afford the gas to go to a game.
TommyJack Not doom just the facts. More Gas is now in reserve than the US has had in over 15 years More oil in reserve since before katerina hit. Oil co. claim higer demand but the facts show differently. Wake up America.
Don't believe ol' G. W. is too concerned abut the average working man. Fuel increases are reflected in everything we touch, almost.
My 182,000 miles 4WD Chevy p/u most days is driven 1-5 miles. Trip to Knoxville might envolve sweet talking Ma out of her 2008 Merc Grand Marquis. List 31k+, plucked that unit for $16.8. Tell me they don't want to sell them. Hwy rated 21 mpg. Might go see them boys if I can sell enuf cans. Doldrums.
I've lived in Europe and paid ~10 bucks a gallon for gas for a long time. It did not slow anyone down, didn't kill the economy, and forced more conservation among the not so well to do's. All the doom and gloom over gas and oil prices is just hype by the media. Sure it stinks, but we are the richest country in the world and we'll survive and the football stadium will be packed.
PS I have 2 large gas guzzling SUVs and will continue to drive em until you pry them from my cold dead hands.
The price of oil is set by the world market and the value of the dollar. There are 2 billion chinese and 1 billion indians that are upping their demands. The dollar is/has been falling for several years. Exxon is not the enemy.
Europeans don't drive half a mile to the convenience store like we do.
You're spot on there, WD40. Speculators have driven the price of oil futures through the roof. The dollar has literally gone in the tank and oil seems to be the next safe hedge. Until we do something about our huge trade deficits and cease to be the world's largest debtor nation oil prices will only worsen. BTW, I'll drive my eight hours to make at least one home game and the game in Columbia this year.
WD40 is on target with his comments. According to the api.org website, (January 2008) gasoline state and federal taxes average 39.8 cents/gallon in Tennessee. Recent testimony of executives of the Big Five Oil Companies indicates that their profit averages 8-8.5%, which to my calculations would be 30.96 cents/gallon. So, the government is more of a problem than the oil companies, which, after all, should make a profit, because they are so restricted by our nation's policies. We also drill for oil on only 14-16% of the areas within the US and the Gulf of Mexico, where we know oil deposits exist. We don't allow drilling off Florida, but Chavez will develop these sites. We don't drill off California, because the surfers might catch a slick wave. We don't drill in ANWR, because we might have another Valdez spill. We're pursuing a bad national energy policy. Even an official in the Bush administration declared that the polar bear is an endangered species!!! What an idiotic statement! For the forseeable future, our country will be absolutely dependent upon oil (and coal) for our energy. Even if I have to drive a Gore-mobile (Prius) after flying the company plane from SAT to BNA (as a matter of fact, I'm making a test run next month), if I get a chance to go to a game this year, I'll be there. Go Vols! SAVol
I just treated a 42 year old roughneck who while on a rig was hit by a casing tong and knocked about four feet down, where his knee hit some pipe, creating an effusion and an anterior drawer sign, with stable medial and lateral collateral ligaments (He has an anterior cruciate ligament injury.) I put him in a knee immobilizer and on crutches, gave a prescription for pain medication, and referred him for an MRI and to an orthopedic surgeon. My guess is that he'll be off work for at least six months. The oil company will provide workman's compensation and temporary disability benefits. Say a prayer for the success of the companies who provide us the fuel to drive our economy, and for the people who are injured doing work most of us wouldn't want to do! Go Vols! SAVol
In 2003 I went to 9 games.That is including the Peach Bowl and a trip to Auburn.I live an hour and a half from Knoxville.My life has changed since then so I make two or three games a year.If my life hadn't changed gas prices would definately affect my trips to see the Vols.There is no way I could afford to make the trips I used too.Unless I could get hooked up with that vegtable oil car!!
My buddy is in the process of converting a diesel Mercedes into running on waste vegetable oil. As long as he lives near Fritters-R-Us, there will be an abundance of used veggie oil for him to syphon into his tank.
'Converting' may not be the right word. He's rebuilding the car from a junker. It was in pretty rough shape. He bought a second one to use for parts. When he's finished, he will run the car on veggie oil.
My son's van runs on cheap vegetable oil and my house is heated by free sunshine so I see that it can be done. There's no need to drill or fight for more oil as the government and media would have us believe. There are so many alternatives to oil that makes drilling in our beautiful parks now obsolete.
As a single Dad with two boys, I think that gas prices are going to affect a lot of things that I'd like to do this year. We live in Roanoke, VA, and usuualy travel to 1 or 2 VOLS games per year. But 420 miles plus tickets, lodging, and food / souvenirs may be a bit too much, this year.
Wonder if a 1973 Ford schoolbus could be converted to run on glazed and fritters?
Hmmm, if they still had Ole Milwaukee Lite for $5.99 per case and Fritos were .69, might chance a run to Fulmerville. Not when we're playing the Gators, though, luck fails us way too often there.
Nafslov - I asked my friend about what you said with regard to his diesel conversion. Here is his response: "Just to let you know that from what I've read, "just mixing gas with vege oil" is a bad idea. The problem seems to be that cold vegetable oil hitting a cold combustion chamber causes "coking", a buildup of carbon deposits around the cylinder walls and valves that causes premature failure of the engine.
So that's where the conversion comes in... the general consensus is that if you care about your engine's life, you will 1- wait until the engine is hot before introducing vege oil, and 2- only introduce hot (around 200F) vege oil. The conversion consists of adding a second tank and a heat exchanger to allow starting the engine on regular diesel, then switching to the hot oil when it is OK. (also, I've learned a bit about octane ratings of gasoline... it makes a significant difference to how your engine can be tuned and the performance you can get out of it... so I think mixing gas with diesel is bad because it has to change the flame-speed characteristics and lower the octane/centane of the fuel... but that is just me thinking)."
TT, Can an old Chevy pick-up be converted to run on glazed drippings?
Or pork rinds?
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andy112382#209793 writes:
I may have to drive from Augusta, GA but raising gas prices, raising ticket prices...it sure as heck won't keep me from seeing my Vols any given season!
pdhuff#552644 writes:
Everything is getting expensive, including PPV which I usually cave in to at the last minute. Might go see N. Ill or UAB. Walk-up or sidewalk ducats are dirt-cheap. Important to geezers.
A lot will depend on UCLA results.
DadwasaVol writes:
My son's van runs on vegetable oil, only. So, no problem with high gas prices for our family. There's so many alternatives to oil now that high gas prices don't bother us anymore. If you don't like high prices quit complaining and do something.
tigervol9802 writes:
No, it's the product on the field that doesn't equal the prices that I have to pay that will keep me away.
CoverOrange writes:
Careful guys. You just identified yourselves as "fairweather".
Since I am the lone football fan (let alone Vol fan) in my household, getting away for a weekend and out of weekend chores occurs once a season regardless of gas prices.
DadwasaVol, just curious, how many McD's do you have stop at to fill a tank? How many miles to the french fry?
threehundredbowler writes:
My health problems will keep me home more than the price of gasoline.As for the gasoline prics,that will not be a problem as there are 4 of us that share the expenses.If I were going it alone,that would be a different story.With donations and other costs associated with seeing the game live,it will cost me about 400.00 a game today.Donations to buy the ticket and the actual cost of two tickets are about 300.00 each and some people actually have the nerve to want the tickets for free or less.Serious health problems kept me home last year.I offered sell my season tickets{2} for face value and someone called and offered me 100.00 for them.Some people would like to have a bmw but for the price of a used yugo.I'll throw them in the fire first.
threehundredbowler writes:
That should have read a pair,not 300.00 each.
volboy81#211803 writes:
no. there are just some things you do...regardless...and going to UT football games is one of them!!
pdhuff#552644 writes:
TT, my neighbor has an old Ford schoolbus with a 360 V8 that I would put up against the USS Constitution for lowest fuel mileage.
Several years ago 7 of us went to Neyland in that beauty, 315 miles roundtrip. The verdict- 52 gallons of regular at 6 per plus 3 qts of erl and that included coasting A LOT on the return trip. The glasspaks on it sounded good, though. It also took nearly 3 cases of Bud and 10 kielbasa's gave their all as well. Not to mention 3 bags of chips. I think we won that day.
Maybe we should pull it out of the weeds and present it to Phil as a token of our appreciation.
ncvol writes:
Answer to the question is yes. The price of gas will keep me away ,but I will keep up with the games and cheer for the Tennessee Volunteers.....
FishTacos writes:
The only thing that depends on whether or not I am going to travel to see the Vols depends on what kind of product Phil puts on the field. If they are unprepared at the beginning of the season like last year at Cal and Florida you can forget it. But if they come on strong at the end like last year then I may go see them play for the SEC title again. Lets Go Underachieving Vols! Only time will tell what Phil has in store for us.
DennisVols writes:
By the time football season starts you may not be able to get fuel.
Record # of repo's of tractor rigs due to the truckers can not affor to deliver goods which includes fuel. I know of at least 2 gas station in the N Atlanta area which are already having trouble gettin fuel delivered because of the rising cost of desiel.
You better be contacting your elected officals before the greed from the oil corps drives us all out of business.
Over $4 in Atlanta now and at this rate a gallon of gas will cost more than a hours work at the min. wage level soon.
If you think it is a joke or funny you may be out of work soon because of this.
By fall they are predicting $8 a gallon and increase of at least 15% on food, 20% on clothing so just keep worring if you can afford the gas to go to a game.
TommyJack writes:
DennisVols: thank you Dr. Doom. Sheesh. When there is a significant decrease in demand ($4, $5, $6 ??), the price will drop.
DennisVols writes:
TommyJack
Not doom just the facts.
More Gas is now in reserve than the US has had in over 15 years
More oil in reserve since before katerina hit.
Oil co. claim higer demand but the facts show differently.
Wake up America.
pdhuff#552644 writes:
Don't believe ol' G. W. is too concerned abut the average working man. Fuel increases are reflected in everything we touch, almost.
My 182,000 miles 4WD Chevy p/u most days is driven 1-5 miles. Trip to Knoxville might envolve sweet talking Ma out of her 2008 Merc Grand Marquis. List 31k+, plucked that unit for $16.8. Tell me they don't want to sell them. Hwy rated 21 mpg. Might go see them boys if I can sell enuf cans. Doldrums.
Go Vols.
UGA_GO_TO_HELL writes:
I've lived in Europe and paid ~10 bucks a gallon for gas for a long time. It did not slow anyone down, didn't kill the economy, and forced more conservation among the not so well to do's. All the doom and gloom over gas and oil prices is just hype by the media. Sure it stinks, but we are the richest country in the world and we'll survive and the football stadium will be packed.
PS I have 2 large gas guzzling SUVs and will continue to drive em until you pry them from my cold dead hands.
CoverOrange writes:
The price of oil is set by the world market and the value of the dollar. There are 2 billion chinese and 1 billion indians that are upping their demands. The dollar is/has been falling for several years. Exxon is not the enemy.
Europeans don't drive half a mile to the convenience store like we do.
vtvol#210290 writes:
You're spot on there, WD40. Speculators have driven the price of oil futures through the roof. The dollar has literally gone in the tank and oil seems to be the next safe hedge. Until we do something about our huge trade deficits and cease to be the world's largest debtor nation oil prices will only worsen. BTW, I'll drive my eight hours to make at least one home game and the game in Columbia this year.
txsvol#372416 writes:
WD40 is on target with his comments. According to the api.org website, (January 2008) gasoline state and federal taxes average 39.8 cents/gallon in Tennessee. Recent testimony of executives of the Big Five Oil Companies indicates that their profit averages 8-8.5%, which to my calculations would be 30.96 cents/gallon. So, the government is more of a problem than the oil companies, which, after all, should make a profit, because they are so restricted by our nation's policies. We also drill for oil on only 14-16% of the areas within the US and the Gulf of Mexico, where we know oil deposits exist. We don't allow drilling off Florida, but Chavez will develop these sites. We don't drill off California, because the surfers might catch a slick wave. We don't drill in ANWR, because we might have another Valdez spill. We're pursuing a bad national energy policy. Even an official in the Bush administration declared that the polar bear is an endangered species!!! What an idiotic statement! For the forseeable future, our country will be absolutely dependent upon oil (and coal) for our energy. Even if I have to drive a Gore-mobile (Prius) after flying the company plane from SAT to BNA (as a matter of fact, I'm making a test run next month), if I get a chance to go to a game this year, I'll be there. Go Vols! SAVol
txsvol#372416 writes:
I just treated a 42 year old roughneck who while on a rig was hit by a casing tong and knocked about four feet down, where his knee hit some pipe, creating an effusion and an anterior drawer sign, with stable medial and lateral collateral ligaments (He has an anterior cruciate ligament injury.) I put him in a knee immobilizer and on crutches, gave a prescription for pain medication, and referred him for an MRI and to an orthopedic surgeon. My guess is that he'll be off work for at least six months. The oil company will provide workman's compensation and temporary disability benefits. Say a prayer for the success of the companies who provide us the fuel to drive our economy, and for the people who are injured doing work most of us wouldn't want to do! Go Vols! SAVol
txsvol#372416 writes:
How else would Mr. Haslam be able to be so generous with donations to UT? Go Vols! SAVol
pdhuff#552644 writes:
Free TDTN.
TommyJack writes:
vols72: Nice
davidray31#232814 writes:
In 2003 I went to 9 games.That is including the Peach Bowl and a trip to Auburn.I live an hour and a half from Knoxville.My life has changed since then so I make two or three games a year.If my life hadn't changed gas prices would definately affect my trips to see the Vols.There is no way I could afford to make the trips I used too.Unless I could get hooked up with that vegtable oil car!!
HotlantaVol writes:
My buddy is in the process of converting a diesel Mercedes into running on waste vegetable oil. As long as he lives near Fritters-R-Us, there will be an abundance of used veggie oil for him to syphon into his tank.
Go Fritters!!
HotlantaVol writes:
'Converting' may not be the right word. He's rebuilding the car from a junker. It was in pretty rough shape. He bought a second one to use for parts. When he's finished, he will run the car on veggie oil.
HotlantaVol writes:
Here's my buddy's blog if anyone is interested . . . http://blog.briangallimore.com/?cat=5
DadwasaVol writes:
My son's van runs on cheap vegetable oil and my house is heated by free sunshine so I see that it can be done. There's no need to drill or fight for more oil as the government and media would have us believe. There are so many alternatives to oil that makes drilling in our beautiful parks now obsolete.
vscebail#247785 writes:
As a single Dad with two boys, I think that gas prices are going to affect a lot of things that I'd like to do this year. We live in Roanoke, VA, and usuualy travel to 1 or 2 VOLS games per year. But 420 miles plus tickets, lodging, and food / souvenirs may be a bit too much, this year.
TommyJack writes:
TDTN: Doubt you will here from him. He's a chuck and duck kind of guy.
tigervol9802 writes:
Shoot boys, didn't anybody see the episode of the Dukes of Hazzard where they enter Uncle Jesse's moonshine into the alternative fuel contest?
Come up to a game then detour home through Sevier and Cocke counties and get you some real powerful ethanol to get you home!
Or go get it before the game and that way if Florida hangs 59 on us again, you'll be able to forget it ever happened!
clausenforheisman writes:
Gas prices will probably keep me from making it to Knoxville this season, but I still plan to make the trip to South Bend to see little Jimmy play.
ULTIMATEVOLUNTEER writes:
NAFSLOV--YOUR KNOWLEDGE IS LACKING. CASEY CLAUSES WAS A WINNER. 2ND BEHIND PEYTON I BELIEVE!
pdhuff#552644 writes:
Wonder if a 1973 Ford schoolbus could be converted to run on glazed and fritters?
Hmmm, if they still had Ole Milwaukee Lite for $5.99 per case and Fritos were .69, might chance a run to Fulmerville. Not when we're playing the Gators, though, luck fails us way too often there.
Oh well, beat the Bruins!
pdhuff#552644 writes:
Staying on sports subjects in the doldrums, sad to see where Earle Hagen passed away.
Yeah, you knew his work. Clue, he wrote and whistled the opening song to the Andy Griffith show. See what trivia the doldrums can provide.
We're going to have to get Dupree to give us the day count if Ashley doesn't step it up.
HotlantaVol writes:
Nafslov - I asked my friend about what you said with regard to his diesel conversion. Here is his response:
"Just to let you know that from what I've read, "just mixing gas with vege oil" is a bad idea. The problem seems to be that cold vegetable oil hitting a cold combustion chamber causes "coking", a buildup of carbon deposits around the cylinder walls and valves that causes premature failure of the engine.
So that's where the conversion comes in... the general consensus is that if you care about your engine's life, you will 1- wait until the engine is hot before introducing vege oil, and 2- only introduce hot (around 200F) vege oil. The conversion consists of adding a second tank and a heat exchanger to allow starting the engine on regular diesel, then switching to the hot oil when it is OK. (also, I've learned a bit about octane ratings of gasoline... it makes a significant difference to how your engine can be tuned and the performance you can get out of it... so I think mixing gas with diesel is bad because it has to change the flame-speed characteristics and lower the octane/centane of the fuel... but that is just me thinking)."
DadwasaVol writes:
HotlantaVol - that is the kind of conversion my son got. Vege oil needs to be warmed so as to not coagulate.
pdhuff#552644 writes:
TT, Can an old Chevy pick-up be converted to run on glazed drippings?
Or pork rinds?
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