Giles takes back UT commitment

Another day, another lost commitment for Tennessee.

Tailback Jarvis Giles became the latest to rescind his pledge to be a part of UT’s 2009 signing class, according to Internet reports.

“I’m going to be calling them (Tennessee’s coaches) today and set everything right and let them know I’m officially de-committing,” Giles told GamecockCentral.com. “I’ve been with them for a long time and I want to handle it the right way, but it’s not the right situation for me.”

The decision isn’t really a surprise. Giles was one of the most vocal UT prospects following head coach Phillip Fulmer’s ouster last week.

Giles told the News Sentinel last week that he planned to follow UT recruiter Stan Drayton to wherever he coached next season.

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Jamey1210 writes:

we need a coach and fast!!

nivatne writes:

This is not good

OrangeMandM writes:

Maybe Drayton told him something that we don't know yet

TommyJack writes:

It could become "the right situation" again with the proper hire.

SKO_Vol82 writes:

never thought i'd say this but... FIRST!

oh well, Phil could recruit, but he never was able to develop all the talent he brought in. Let's hope that the new staff can lure him back to UT.

nivatne writes:

Do we have a shot at getting him back?

SKO_Vol82 writes:

in response to SKO_Vol82:

never thought i'd say this but... FIRST!

oh well, Phil could recruit, but he never was able to develop all the talent he brought in. Let's hope that the new staff can lure him back to UT.

Dang, I got beat by 1 minute. Gotta go study the film and see where I blew it!

LifetimeVolFan98 writes:

He'll only stay if Drayton stays AND the "right" HC is chosen. Most likely he's gone -

JMP_Vols writes:

Bye.

Volunatic writes:

Not a shock. He would be stuck behind Tauren Poole on the depth chart.

Volsrbest writes:

If Drayton stays, he'll come back, but don't count on Drayton being in Knoxville next season. Besides, he graduates in Dec and plans to enroll in Jan. If we pursue a "sitting" coach, we probably won't make an announcement before then. Especially if it's Davis...they still have a shot at a BCS Bowl.

We'll see. Just have to expect these things to happen and ride the storm out.

givehim6 writes:

Something tells me Drayton and Giles will be Gamecocks next year.

ATLVOL1 writes:

OKU AND THIGPEN SOUND LIKE MEN, HE SOUNDS LIKE A SPOILED BRAT.

BuckheadVol1 writes:

Nuts!

Alabaster_Jones writes:

I heard he's going to an up and coming program out west Wyoming"

SemperVol writes:

Remember when he said he was excited about playing with Oku. I used to like to play with my teammates and for the game I loved. You get into trouble when you play for a coach.

Good riddance, Giles. Does this mean Drayton thinks he'll be toast?

orangeJACKET writes:

forget him. i don't want drayton anyway. he's one of the guys telling players to "do what you have to do". when he was recruiting this kid, he told him tennessee was the school for him but now that we are cleaning house, he's practically telling players to back out of thier commitment. hamilton should have campus security escort that guy (cus he sure isn't a coach) off the campus and fight to not pay him his buy out. the same should go for any coach that tries to influence these kids to back out. after all they are STILL getting checks from the university. how sad. how very sad that these chumps (fulmer included) are acting so unprofessional.

byobbio writes:

This is one of many things to come. It always happens. I believe we'll see 10 or so transfers in the summer no matter who the coach is. They are going to change the entire environment over there and there will be a different athletic department. So, probably half the commits will de-commit. BUt, with a coach who desires to be who he is and will not suck up to these incoming freshmen and the current players (a la Jerry Green), we'll be fine in a couple of years. So, all of you people who wanted Fulmer out, this is what you asked for. It will take a few years to get us back to where we were. We'll see. Good luck!

whocares writes:

With Hardesty returning and hopefully healthy next season, Poole and Creer already in the mix... add Oku and Toney Williams (really think he's a sleeper and should be rated a tad bit higher, not sure if he's still firm or not. Any info savg?) I think we'll be fine until the new HC starts his recruiting trek.

BOL Giles.

lomas98 writes:

Recruiting takes a hit during a coaching change. Just look at last year with the unknown of the offensive coaching changes that happened. Unfortunately this will be 2 years in a row recruiting has suffered. That is why the choice of coach is important. If we go 3 or 4 years of bad recruiting we are in for more than a 1 or 2 year slide. On a bright note, depending on who we get as coach there could be other commitments to other schools who may take another look at TN. I suspect half this class will decommit before its over. Some haven't decommmited but will look who is brought in before they make a decision. That means they are decommited right now.

caskew#218608 writes:

SCHIT!

ColumbusVol writes:

Can't do much worse than this year so really any improvement is "turning the program in the right direction".

Plus, if Hamilton makes a hire with some "wow" factor, the staff might be able to get some kids to switch before the signing deadline from other schools. I would have to believe that these kids know we will go after the best coach money will buy and a name that is relevant to them so they are curious as to who it will be.

gobigorange8464 writes:

We need a coach fast!

jturne44 writes:

like giles cared about UT anywyas. I thought Phil Fulmer taught his players to love this great university not to bash it for doing what's best (in reference to the vocal players on the current team too). Tajh, Oku, Thigpen, and most of the other recruits chose the school, the city, the program and the real reason to come to UT and they are still committed. The most interesting thing to see is if clawson stays and to see if he finally gets his players to run his offense without phil sayin woah woah woah dave thats too risky for me. haha

VolGraduate writes:

18 year olds make really bad decisions. following an assistant coach is the worst decision giles could make in this situation. what if drayton doesn't find a job in 2 months? what if he doesn't get fired? what if he finds a job and is fired after one season like he was this year? what if he finds a job at a lower tiered school, community college or high school????

OdessaVol writes:

Would like to have him and he is an explosive back, but I question his durability. I live in Tampa and he has been in and out of several games due to injury. Play will be a lot rougher in the SEC.

DC_Vol writes:

Everyone blames Fulmer for the entire dabacle that is 2008 Tennessee football season. Yes Fulmer should be blamed partially but not entirely. He made a very bad hiring decision when he hired Clawson. I guarentee that if David Cutcliffe were still here, fulmer would still be here. How come no one is placing blame at Clawson's door. He is the man most responsible for the demise of Tennessee football this season. His offense has been atrocious all season. Yes, I do believe Fulmer has responsibility, but ultimately for decision he made which can be attributed to a bad hire.

I have followed Tennessee football since 1990. Since Fulmer took over his good years were always associated with David Cutcliffe. When Cutcliffe is here we are competitive. When he leaves we suddendly can't function on offense. I guarentee Fulmer regrets hiring Clawson and probably considers his decision to hire him as the offensive coordinator the biggest mistake of his 17 year coaching carreer. Agree or disagree?

Sheepscape writes:

People need to relax a bit. This kind of introspection happens to recruits during transitions. We just don't have that kind of experiences since we haven't had an open coaching search in quite literally decades.

Fans that are so involved in recruiting to the point that the 'thrill of the chase' should honestly ask themselves whether they care more about signing day than they can about what happens to that team in the fall. That 05 recruit class was supposedly loaded, but look at what it has actually accomplished. Nothing.

We are not the University of Fulmers, we are the University of Tennessee. We just lost to Wyoming...homecoming. The player's that were so obsessed and angry with Fulmer's dismissal should frankly be ashamed at the performance on Saturday. 21 losses in four years...two losing seasons in four. There are bigger problems with the football program than the mercurial temperament of high school recruits.

Lastly, on a practical note I am not sure any running back worth his salt will want to run behind the so-called linemen over there right now.

This team needs tackles on both sides of the line of scrimmage more than it needs skill players. How are those highly touted skill players on offensive working out for the Vols this year?

arkyvol writes:

if losing this years recruiting class is the price of regime change, i believe its a price worth paying.

burpee_von_rotweiler_IV writes:

Just another 18 year old mouthy punk. Good riddance. Let him go. UT doesn't need any more of these "wise" junior philosophers (e.g. Jonathon Crompton, etc.)

whocares writes:

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Agree Rich,

We have a good group of backs in the stable should be good to go for at least 2-3 years. QB is still a huge concern but Boyd might be an impact player from the go or we may see Nick or BJ step up under a new system.

But I would like to see more OL in this class for sure. With only 3 3* now with a few decommitting we might see a push to pick up at the least 2 more or as you said 2 more DT's but I think we are a bit deeper on the DL than OL. JMO

Sheepscape writes:

in response to DC_Vol:

Everyone blames Fulmer for the entire dabacle that is 2008 Tennessee football season. Yes Fulmer should be blamed partially but not entirely. He made a very bad hiring decision when he hired Clawson. I guarentee that if David Cutcliffe were still here, fulmer would still be here. How come no one is placing blame at Clawson's door. He is the man most responsible for the demise of Tennessee football this season. His offense has been atrocious all season. Yes, I do believe Fulmer has responsibility, but ultimately for decision he made which can be attributed to a bad hire.

I have followed Tennessee football since 1990. Since Fulmer took over his good years were always associated with David Cutcliffe. When Cutcliffe is here we are competitive. When he leaves we suddendly can't function on offense. I guarentee Fulmer regrets hiring Clawson and probably considers his decision to hire him as the offensive coordinator the biggest mistake of his 17 year coaching carreer. Agree or disagree?

Respectfully DC, your argument further indicts Fulmer rather than letting him off the hook.

Spence at Clemson was the other finalist for the vacated OC position. Spence's offense was also atrocious at Clemson, particularly early on, so much so that it also resorted in a head coaching change. Randy Sanders, JR Stephens, and Pat Washington were all offensive coaches that Coach Fulmer allowed to remain longer than they should. Coach Fulmer's judgement of offensive coaches not named Cutcliffe is poor at best.

He is responsible for the whole program, he was paid well to be...and Fulmer has failed.

The fans have turned, en masse. It's all academic at this point.

GoVol writes:

Drayton and Brooks should be fired immediately for telling recruits to do what they need to do. These coaches are still on the TN payroll and are supposed to have the University's best interest in mind until the bitter end. This is the price you pay for firing someone and then letting them stay....this is why most succesful business do not operate this way...they know better.

newtonrail writes:

Unless Ham head hires Kiffin, which would be a mistake, Davis, Kelly, Leach(ugh) won't be in place until Jan. unless they accept the job before then, and old school tells them to get lost. A la Rodriquez. The best they could keep would be Latrell Scott as recruiter, but don't know how he'd feel about separating from Clawson.

RemembertheAlamo writes:

in response to DC_Vol:

Everyone blames Fulmer for the entire dabacle that is 2008 Tennessee football season. Yes Fulmer should be blamed partially but not entirely. He made a very bad hiring decision when he hired Clawson. I guarentee that if David Cutcliffe were still here, fulmer would still be here. How come no one is placing blame at Clawson's door. He is the man most responsible for the demise of Tennessee football this season. His offense has been atrocious all season. Yes, I do believe Fulmer has responsibility, but ultimately for decision he made which can be attributed to a bad hire.

I have followed Tennessee football since 1990. Since Fulmer took over his good years were always associated with David Cutcliffe. When Cutcliffe is here we are competitive. When he leaves we suddendly can't function on offense. I guarentee Fulmer regrets hiring Clawson and probably considers his decision to hire him as the offensive coordinator the biggest mistake of his 17 year coaching carreer. Agree or disagree?

I don't know how you can blame Clawson and his offense. Neither was used, because the offense was not any different than the last 10 years. Did you see one play that was different than what was used in past 10 years? Fulmer made the right hire for him, he wanted someone he could control and he did, the problem was it was his downfall. The reason UT was so good when Cutcliff was here, was Fulmer didn't tell Cut what to call or who to play. If Clawson had had the same luxury then we may have won more games.

Duke writes:

What y'all have to consider is this. A kid who backs out and is as vocal as this one, probably isn't worth his weight in salt. A class act, and one who has talent that can be molded into that of greatness, is going to sit on the sideline and watch until the coach is named. Then, and only then, will that kid, his parents, HS coaches, and mentors make a final decision on the program. That goes for others who are willing to jump ship right now.

JeffBleedsOrange writes:

in response to SKO_Vol82:

never thought i'd say this but... FIRST!

oh well, Phil could recruit, but he never was able to develop all the talent he brought in. Let's hope that the new staff can lure him back to UT.

You were atleast the FIRST idiot to post...

kdaff51 writes:

Not to worry. Lets just make sure that we get coaches that can take potential and turn it into greatness. We will get our share of the talent and it will be up to the staff to develop it.

DC_Vol writes:

in response to Sheepscape:

Respectfully DC, your argument further indicts Fulmer rather than letting him off the hook.

Spence at Clemson was the other finalist for the vacated OC position. Spence's offense was also atrocious at Clemson, particularly early on, so much so that it also resorted in a head coaching change. Randy Sanders, JR Stephens, and Pat Washington were all offensive coaches that Coach Fulmer allowed to remain longer than they should. Coach Fulmer's judgement of offensive coaches not named Cutcliffe is poor at best.

He is responsible for the whole program, he was paid well to be...and Fulmer has failed.

The fans have turned, en masse. It's all academic at this point.

Sheepscape,

I agree with you that Fulmer is ultimately responsible for the success or failure of the Tennessee program and should be held accountable for all decisions related to the progam. Including the hiring of Clawson responsible for the worst offensive statistics in fifty years by a Tennessee offense. In addition, I do agree with most fans on this site that a change needed to occur and do believe we will be better of with a new coach in the future.

My point, was that a great deal of the blame for this season needs to also be placed squarely at the doorstep of Clawson. Whether you like his offensive philosophy or not, the results of his supposed creative offense have been horrendous. I am not just talking about x's and o's and scheme, I am talking about preparation and understanding of the kids to run Clawson's play calls. To say the least, the QB play and line play shows kids who simply don't understand the offense and aren't prepared to run the offense play calls. That is Clawson's ultimate responsibility as the offense coordinator.

shoalcreekvol writes:

We need a good "UT Airplane" rumor to get going. Ok, I'll do it:

UT's airplane flew to Atlanta today. Still there. Paul Johnson, anyone?

FYI it flew to Richmond and back on Friday. Unfortunately it was not returning Clawson and Drayton (I assume, since they were supposedly at the game Saturday. Or were they? Hmmm...)

Also it flew to Gulf Shores and back yesterday, but I assume that had something to do with Coach Pearl's new "love of his life".

khelton657 writes:

in response to GoVol:

Drayton and Brooks should be fired immediately for telling recruits to do what they need to do. These coaches are still on the TN payroll and are supposed to have the University's best interest in mind until the bitter end. This is the price you pay for firing someone and then letting them stay....this is why most succesful business do not operate this way...they know better.

I don't believe they told the recruits that alone, those poor sounding words were just the ones the recruits wanted to remember / quote since it matched what they were going to do anyway........my bet is that after trying to pursuade them to stay, it appeared futile and that was a closing remark, not what the coaches were trying to get across. These coaches would not have gotten this far if they had that little integrity. The kid is like a disgruntled employee, don't believe everything you hear until you hear the other side.

rep88 writes:

as long as we keep oku this dont matter if you watch their videos its clear who the better player is anyway. We need to hire someone though because we dont need to lose all of our commits

shoalcreekvol writes:

Wait, wait, wait. I need to clarify something in that last post. I'm not recommending Johnson or his Pop Warner offense. I'm just pointing out that he works in Atlanta.

BTCHSLPN writes:

Imight be wrong but didnt Drayton tell him a couple a weeks ago that he should start shopping???...If that be the case we have got to narrow this thing down quick and get a coach in here////the thing here is we are done for the year and when i say that NO BOWL.So you would think they would be going after a guy that cant start now , the bowl games carry all the way through December,we will be exactly right where we were last year.Davis will guide his team to a good bowl game,we wouldnt have a chance waiting on him.... WE NEED A COACH SITTING ON THESE YOUNG MENS COUCHES...feedback would be nice

khelton657 writes:

in response to SemperVol:

Remember when he said he was excited about playing with Oku. I used to like to play with my teammates and for the game I loved. You get into trouble when you play for a coach.

Good riddance, Giles. Does this mean Drayton thinks he'll be toast?

Giles is a kid, kids unknowingly do stupid things. He's leaving at the absolute worst time for him. If he were in the stock market his philosophy would be " Buy high and sell low", our stock is now at it's lowest and is about to skyrocket.

Every morning glows bright Tennesse Orange now and it's a beautiful sight.

Happy Birthday, SemperVol.

The_the writes:

in response to khelton657:

Giles is a kid, kids unknowingly do stupid things. He's leaving at the absolute worst time for him. If he were in the stock market his philosophy would be " Buy high and sell low", our stock is now at it's lowest and is about to skyrocket.

Every morning glows bright Tennesse Orange now and it's a beautiful sight.

Happy Birthday, SemperVol.

Stock is about to skyrocket? You're about to be DELISTED! YOU JUST LOST TO WYOMING!!!

djstatik writes:

If he's anything like the Running backs Fulmer has recruited in the last few classes he can go somewhere else. A Division III school maybe....

Let the new coach find an RB that can actually run....AND HOLD ONTO THE BALL!

Volfantm writes:

This gives a more accurate picture. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recrui...
And it's only logical to think that the situation could easily get worse before it gets better; certainly not a statement of "fanhood".

paulvol writes:

Who can blame the kid anyway? Who would want to go to a school with a record of 3-7 and maybe worse in the end unless you just knew that you did not have the ability to beat out starters on a better team. Good luck Giles! UT needs even better luck to get back to what we once were anytime soon.

99gator writes:

a couple of predictions for you.....

1. the class of 2009 for tennessee will be a wasted year. it is for every first year head coach. i would ask that you all look at most head coaches recruiting classes and see what they signed in their first year. it isn't pretty. you should see urban meyer's first signing class at florida. it's the bullet that has to be bit.

2. giles will not go where drayton goes. i believe drayton will have a hard time finding a job at a school that will be to giles' liking. the loyalty will not end up being that strong. in addition, giles is not good enough to hire drayton just to get giles. and no, giles will not be at florida.

3. if tenn finds the right head coach.....heads will roll and transfers will be many. new coach will demand that all jump on board his ship or be left standing on the dock.....which is also the way it has to be.

4. be prepared to offer up way more money than fulmer dreamed of making.

i think y'all are in for more of a rebuilding process than florida and bama went through.....unless you get someone like butch davis.

for your sakes, i hope i am wrong but that is how i see it.

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