Dallas blog: Speculation already out there on Leach successor

Dallas Morning News blog says speculation already out there on who will replace Mike Leach at Texas Tech.

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BigOrangeWillie writes:

Fulmer?

SemperVol writes:

This could be because of many coaching vacancies. But I understand what makes this article so interesting.

Leach needs to go over there to the Pac-10 and coach up Washington so they can start beating USC. That'd be the best thing for college football.

To echo comments from that link...Tech will really suck once Leach, Harrell, and Crabtree say adios next season.

mhillvol#275693 writes:

WOW - maybe he is already wearing vols attire?

SemperVol writes:

Does Leach call his own plays?

eduardo writes:

UT has asked for permission to talk to Bryan Kelley. This makes more sense than Leach. I sure dont want anyone associated with Hal Mumme to be our next football coach. I believe in losing the coaching like heck and see the film, but I also believe in playing smart!

mhillvol#275693 writes:

in response to eduardo:

UT has asked for permission to talk to Bryan Kelley. This makes more sense than Leach. I sure dont want anyone associated with Hal Mumme to be our next football coach. I believe in losing the coaching like heck and see the film, but I also believe in playing smart!

I would rather have Brian Kelley than Butch Davis, what does everybody else think?

bugman (Inactive) writes:

Leach is horrible. why would Tennessee want such a lame coach. this would be like hiring Buzz Peterson all over again....

mhillvol#275693 writes:

in response to bugman:

Leach is horrible. why would Tennessee want such a lame coach. this would be like hiring Buzz Peterson all over again....

If he is so lame then why is his team sitting at #2?

CedarHillVol writes:

in response to mhillvol#275693:

I would rather have Brian Kelley than Butch Davis, what does everybody else think?

I agree...I think Kelley is the way to go. He seems to win where ever he coaches. Wonder how he would recruit at Tennessee? Go Vols!

blitzshoot writes:

Leach is going someplace , but I do not think it will be UT. I am also concerned that next year, he will return to 8-4/7-5....I think UT should look for a more consistent HC.
I woud not count out Kelly nor the HC from Ball ST.

UT___a_basketball_school writes:

Oh please let us get Leach. PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE! With a good D Coordinator, he'd be unstoppable!

blitzshoot writes:

in response to CedarHillVol:

I agree...I think Kelley is the way to go. He seems to win where ever he coaches. Wonder how he would recruit at Tennessee? Go Vols!

Can Brian Kelly adapt to the SEC and the speed? He does have ties to some talent rich areas in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Word of caution, he will jump as soon as Boston College calls. That's a guarantee.

Hacksaw57 writes:

in response to mhillvol#275693:

If he is so lame then why is his team sitting at #2?

Because of Harrell , Crabtree, etc!

johnlg00#206211 writes:

I'm not necessarily wildly in love with Leach as our next coach, but, in defense of his overall record, winning in the Big-12 at Texas Tech is like winning in the SEC at Mississippi State. It's not impossible, but it is quite a feat when it happens. True, he is recruiting in the happy hunting grounds of Texas, but TTU ranks no better than about fifth among the Texas programs in average recruiting rank, and that's not even to mention that every other major program in the country competes for Texas recruits also. Also true that Harrell and Crabtree don't come along every year, but Leach's program has for several years now put up big numbers and won more than its share with a bunch of guys no one had ever heard of before. I do think he is a bit too quirky to please all the conservatives in our fan/donor base, but he surely wouldn't be dull!

jimr07 writes:

in response to mhillvol#275693:

If he is so lame then why is his team sitting at #2?

it is the first time in his coaching career that he has even been in the top ten. look at his past record and not just this one super year. Has never beaten both texas and oklahoma in the same year.

JBruce writes:

in response to blitzshoot:

Leach is going someplace , but I do not think it will be UT. I am also concerned that next year, he will return to 8-4/7-5....I think UT should look for a more consistent HC.
I woud not count out Kelly nor the HC from Ball ST.

I would be stunned to see Tennessee 8-4/7-5 next year!

It would take jurastic improvement to get Tennessee to a 8-4/7-5 record next year.

We may end up with Kelly as the head coach and I can't argue with the choice because he is very qualified. But I still think that Leach brings more to the table.

It will take a couple of years to turn this program around. (see Alabama 6-6 in 2007)

ULTIMATEVOLUNTEER writes:

in response to mhillvol#275693:

If he is so lame then why is his team sitting at #2?

harrell and crabtree

Huttdawg100 writes:

in response to mhillvol#275693:

I would rather have Brian Kelley than Butch Davis, what does everybody else think?

After a little bit of research, I think you're right about Davis; he's a good coach, but we need to go with somebody younger. Kelley maybe, but Chris Peterson is growing on me.... He gets his guys motivated for big games, and in the SEC, every game is a BIG game. Any other opinions on Peterson?

SemperVol writes:

in response to Huttdawg100:

After a little bit of research, I think you're right about Davis; he's a good coach, but we need to go with somebody younger. Kelley maybe, but Chris Peterson is growing on me.... He gets his guys motivated for big games, and in the SEC, every game is a BIG game. Any other opinions on Peterson?

"The Broncos opened the 2008 season with a 49-7 win over their former in-state rival Idaho State in front of a new Bronco Stadium record crowd of 32,318" (Wikipedia)

He'd probably love to get out of Idaho and take a gander at the greener grasses of the SEC (pun intended)....where there's 30,000-plus in the pisser at halftime.

JBruce writes:

in response to jimr07:

it is the first time in his coaching career that he has even been in the top ten. look at his past record and not just this one super year. Has never beaten both texas and oklahoma in the same year.

Just a hypothetical question.

Since 2000, what would Phil Fulmer's combined win/loss record be against Mack Brown and Bob Stoops, if he had to play both every season?

I am going to say 5-13/6-12

cjraney writes:

in response to mhillvol#275693:

If he is so lame then why is his team sitting at #2?

Because Tech hasn't played Oklahoma yet.

MANVOL writes:

in response to blitzshoot:

Can Brian Kelly adapt to the SEC and the speed? He does have ties to some talent rich areas in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Word of caution, he will jump as soon as Boston College calls. That's a guarantee.

Death and Taxs that is a guarantee. Evryone thought Pearl would for Boston College as well.

cjraney writes:

in response to johnlg00#206211:

I'm not necessarily wildly in love with Leach as our next coach, but, in defense of his overall record, winning in the Big-12 at Texas Tech is like winning in the SEC at Mississippi State. It's not impossible, but it is quite a feat when it happens. True, he is recruiting in the happy hunting grounds of Texas, but TTU ranks no better than about fifth among the Texas programs in average recruiting rank, and that's not even to mention that every other major program in the country competes for Texas recruits also. Also true that Harrell and Crabtree don't come along every year, but Leach's program has for several years now put up big numbers and won more than its share with a bunch of guys no one had ever heard of before. I do think he is a bit too quirky to please all the conservatives in our fan/donor base, but he surely wouldn't be dull!

Are you saying that Texas, A & M, Baylor, and Rice recruit better than Texas Tech? I don't think so. Check Rivals, he's been getting 4 and 5-stars down there.

1. Will Muschamp
2. Lane Kiffin
3. Brian Kelly

cjraney writes:

in response to JBruce:

Just a hypothetical question.

Since 2000, what would Phil Fulmer's combined win/loss record be against Mack Brown and Bob Stoops, if he had to play both every season?

I am going to say 5-13/6-12

Yes, and Fulmer just got fired.

memphisvolman writes:

in response to johnlg00#206211:

I'm not necessarily wildly in love with Leach as our next coach, but, in defense of his overall record, winning in the Big-12 at Texas Tech is like winning in the SEC at Mississippi State. It's not impossible, but it is quite a feat when it happens. True, he is recruiting in the happy hunting grounds of Texas, but TTU ranks no better than about fifth among the Texas programs in average recruiting rank, and that's not even to mention that every other major program in the country competes for Texas recruits also. Also true that Harrell and Crabtree don't come along every year, but Leach's program has for several years now put up big numbers and won more than its share with a bunch of guys no one had ever heard of before. I do think he is a bit too quirky to please all the conservatives in our fan/donor base, but he surely wouldn't be dull!

I have to agree with you. He is hot right now and with so many coaches on the bubble I would much rather have him on our side than down at Auburn.

What makes Kelly and Davis any better than Leach? So what if he is quirky as long as those quirks can win games that's what we want to see!

NoMoreWooAfterGoodOleRockyTop writes:

in response to eduardo:

UT has asked for permission to talk to Bryan Kelley. This makes more sense than Leach. I sure dont want anyone associated with Hal Mumme to be our next football coach. I believe in losing the coaching like heck and see the film, but I also believe in playing smart!

Amen amen amen...

Leach is a bum. We don't need a circus, we need someone who can win with class. To all you Univ. of Fulmers, I said win, not lose with class. It doesn't take special talent for that and it sure as "heck" doesn't warrant 2.5 million or a 6 million buyout.

Volunatic writes:

Hire Kyle Whittingham, with Trooper Taylor for OC.

VolTex writes:

in response to cjraney:

Are you saying that Texas, A & M, Baylor, and Rice recruit better than Texas Tech? I don't think so. Check Rivals, he's been getting 4 and 5-stars down there.

1. Will Muschamp
2. Lane Kiffin
3. Brian Kelly

Texas, OU, and A&M have better recruiting classes then Tech year after year. I'm a Tech grad and to say he pulls 5 star recruits is BS. He might get one a year at most. Sprinkle in a few 4 stars and the rest are 2 and 3 stars. He does a lot with very little compared to the other big boys down here.

Volunatic writes:

in response to JBruce:

I would be stunned to see Tennessee 8-4/7-5 next year!

It would take jurastic improvement to get Tennessee to a 8-4/7-5 record next year.

We may end up with Kelly as the head coach and I can't argue with the choice because he is very qualified. But I still think that Leach brings more to the table.

It will take a couple of years to turn this program around. (see Alabama 6-6 in 2007)

I loved that movie Jurastic Park.

orangesox writes:

in response to johnlg00#206211:

I'm not necessarily wildly in love with Leach as our next coach, but, in defense of his overall record, winning in the Big-12 at Texas Tech is like winning in the SEC at Mississippi State. It's not impossible, but it is quite a feat when it happens. True, he is recruiting in the happy hunting grounds of Texas, but TTU ranks no better than about fifth among the Texas programs in average recruiting rank, and that's not even to mention that every other major program in the country competes for Texas recruits also. Also true that Harrell and Crabtree don't come along every year, but Leach's program has for several years now put up big numbers and won more than its share with a bunch of guys no one had ever heard of before. I do think he is a bit too quirky to please all the conservatives in our fan/donor base, but he surely wouldn't be dull!

I agree with you. Tech is a second tier Big Twelve program, although I think anyone would have to say it's a better one now than it was when he took over. As for Tech next year, of course they will be down some. It's safe to say Crabtree and Harrell will be in the NFL and Tech will be in rebuilding mode. I get the feeling that Leach looking to ride off into the sunset where his Texas Tech career is concerned.

orangesox writes:

As for Chris Peterson, there's no doubt he's a good football coach who does an outstanding job with the limited resources available to him. Sometimes, though, it's about fitting in at a job. I'm not sure if it's of any consequence to me, but the Scientology thing seems like a barrier that would make it harder for him at UT than maybe some other places. I've even heard a couple of the so called experts say that makes him more unlikely to land at Tennessee than people realize.

pdhuff#552644 writes:

in response to KingsportVol:

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They are supposed to have more beans. Its even noted on the can.

Volunatic writes:

in response to hiresanders:

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Hiring Sanders make the "T" on the helmet stand for "Turd".

SemperVol writes:

in response to hiresanders:

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Meeeeow!

jimr07 writes:

in response to hiresanders:

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we all realize what a football powerhouse kentucky is what with all the national championships and SEC championships they have won. Oh , really, none?

SemperVol writes:

in response to KingsportVol:

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Kareful....Konsider that Kitty Kat Kan't taKe the KupKaKe Komment.

The UK stands for UnKempt.
GoOOOOO Wildcats!!! Meeeow!!!

volsfansc writes:

in response to bama987:

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yea that is probably true but he has averaged 8 win a year.. and what has brian kelly done he can't even win the Big East the Big 12 is way more competitive that what brian kelly is in... that is a bad bad move we want to get better not worse. kelly is not the anwser !

byobbio writes:

Everybody says he has such a recruiting mecca in Texas. If so, why doesn't Texas win big every year? Why does T A&M do so poorly. I think the guy can recruit. Especially if he pulls off a conference championship. I would very much like a guy of his caliber here. Doesn't he have a doctorate at Princeton or something? It looks to me that it does translate onto the football field. I say bring on Leach and forget Davis. Man, what a pool to choose from Mike Hamilton has. But, my vote goes to Leach.

blitzshoot writes:

in response to KingsportVol:

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No sir. That's his dream job. He is from there and has always had a desire to coach there. Friends of mine from Cincy told me that has always been their concern.

BigOrangeinCharge writes:

in response to SemperVol:

Does Leach call his own plays?

Yes. A lot of very good coaches, including some HOFers, consider him the best playcaller in football. His offense is really very simple. Just a handful of plays that he runs out of a ton of different formations. He's like Spurrier used to be in the 90s.

TommyJack writes:

in response to byobbio:

Everybody says he has such a recruiting mecca in Texas. If so, why doesn't Texas win big every year? Why does T A&M do so poorly. I think the guy can recruit. Especially if he pulls off a conference championship. I would very much like a guy of his caliber here. Doesn't he have a doctorate at Princeton or something? It looks to me that it does translate onto the football field. I say bring on Leach and forget Davis. Man, what a pool to choose from Mike Hamilton has. But, my vote goes to Leach.

No, he has a law degree from Pepperdine.

BigOrangeinCharge writes:

in response to byobbio:

Everybody says he has such a recruiting mecca in Texas. If so, why doesn't Texas win big every year? Why does T A&M do so poorly. I think the guy can recruit. Especially if he pulls off a conference championship. I would very much like a guy of his caliber here. Doesn't he have a doctorate at Princeton or something? It looks to me that it does translate onto the football field. I say bring on Leach and forget Davis. Man, what a pool to choose from Mike Hamilton has. But, my vote goes to Leach.

Leach graduated 3rd in his class from Pepperdine Law School before deciding he'd rather be a football coach. He's a very smart guy. I think his "quirks" are probably partly due to bipolar disorder, and partly due to salesmanship, based on stories I've heard. Former Vols' basketball coach Ray Mears was bipolar too, and he did great in the 70s, so that doesn't bother me.

As for Leach's recruiting, his classes never look all that good on paper, but what he does with them is pretty impressive. A typical class for him is mostly ** and *** recruits, with maybe 3 or 4 **** thrown in and an occasional ***** standout. However, he takes those guys and has consistently had winning seasons with them, all while competing against the likes of Texas, Oklahoma, etc. The Big 12 is the only conference that can rival the SEC from top to bottom, and Leach has proven he can win and be competitive there at a 2nd tier program with players other elite programs don't want (imagine winning 8-9 games a year at Miss. St, Kentucky, or SC for 8 years and getting them in position to play for the NC).

Another thing about Leach: he's also really good at finding diamonds in the rough-- those unheralded gems that Fulmer and Co just don't find. IIRC, Harrell and Crabtree were both only *** recruits out of high school.

One thing about Leach, even if he doesn't win the NC in his 2nd year here, he would at least make UT football competitive and fun to watch again. He's definitely on my shortlist of coaching hopefuls.

tennisvol writes:

They will probably come after ole Phil.

TNisPeerless writes:

in response to country410:

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Fulmer = Mack Brown in a less fertile recruiting bed. SSDD.

TNisPeerless writes:

in response to KingsportVol:

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HILARIOUS

7_Game_Maxims writes:

in response to orangesox:

As for Chris Peterson, there's no doubt he's a good football coach who does an outstanding job with the limited resources available to him. Sometimes, though, it's about fitting in at a job. I'm not sure if it's of any consequence to me, but the Scientology thing seems like a barrier that would make it harder for him at UT than maybe some other places. I've even heard a couple of the so called experts say that makes him more unlikely to land at Tennessee than people realize.

The only problem is that the experts don't know what they are talking about. This is a rumor. see the link...

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=147&am...

txvolsfan writes:

in response to bama987:

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U SCARED???

chad_t31 writes:

Not saying that it would or wouldn't but what is everyone's opinion on leach's offense working against sec defenses week in and week out. I realize what he did with "kentucky" talent at UK so don't give me that as an example please. Just curious what you all thought about it.

utfan15govols writes:

I see a lot of negative comments about Leach, but you got to look at it this way. Texas Tech is not a dominate school in the big 12, recruiting wise he has to compete with Texas, Oklahoma, etc. So yes it took him a bit to get to this position. And the comment about Leach being with Hal Humme, if you watch any UK games during that time, it was probably the most exciting days for a non-football school, but then again they went to some bowls, and what bowl are we going to this year? Leach was interested in the Kentucky job before Brooks was hired, i would say he would be interested in Tennessee. Leach is not a bad choice at all. Put him in a school like ours and he will have great years. Course this is coming from the guy who wanting Bruce Pearl as coach and posted it on these forums before they hired Buzz Peterson and posted it again after buzz was fired, and some of you thought i was crazy, well?

Colliervol writes:

in response to hiresanders:

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Tell me again why we would give one rat's rear end what a Kentucky fan thinks about UT?

Your handle tells me all I need to know about your football knowledge. I might let him be equipment manager but that would be about it.

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