Pennington: Twenty thoughts on Pearl saga

Here are 20 thoughts, views and even some possible conspiracy theories tied to Tennessee basketball coach Bruce Pearl's flirtation with Memphis on Thursday.

1. And first of all, even though Pearl told ESPN's "Pardon the Interruption" that he didn't flirt with Memphis, yes he did. Raises - for Pearl and his assistants - and a big buyout are being handed out. The negotiations to arrive at those boosts took hours longer than UT expected. So, yes, there was some info exchanged between Pearl and Memphis.

2. So what? Flirting with other schools is how coaches set their only salary bar and how they send messages to fans and administrators. What better way to say, "you better appreciate me," than to let rumors swirl for a few hours. Plus, in four years in Knoxville, this was the first time that Pearl had ever "played the game."

3. Thursday's rumors could have easily been stopped and the fanbase put at ease with either an early-morning press release from UT or two simple words from Pearl ("I'm staying") when he spoke to Knoxville reporters. Neither happened. So don't believe that this wasn't a semi-serious situation.

4. Fans want to believe it when their coach says, "I never considered leaving." But Democrats wanted to believe that Barack Obama could fix the economy on Inauguration Day and Republicans wanted to believe that the Iraq War would be easy. Our beliefs are often tainted by our allegiances. People at UT were indeed wondering if Pearl might bolt, especially when Mike Hamilton revealed that his coach wasn't returning his calls on Thursday afternoon.

5. Last Sunday on my television show, our panel agreed that Pearl would listen to an offer if approached this year. Here's why: he wasn't happy with some of this year's criticisms, he saw Phillip Fulmer get fired after years of service, he saw Alabama hand big money to Anthony Grant, and he wanted his assistants to get a raise.

6. Pearl made it clear on ESPN that a bigger buyout was a key concern. Again, he saw what happened to Fulmer firsthand.

7. Perhaps Pearl just wanted to gauge his market value and the only way to do that was to flirt with Memphis and to make it look like he was willing to leave.

8. Pearl is getting a raise based on that market value. He admitted on ESPN that he didn't earn a raise with last year's work, but instead for his overall "body of work." I think he earned the raise because someone else was willing to pay him more. UT had to decide if Pearl was worth keeping or if they wanted to start all over. They made the wise decision. That's how the game is played.

9. Conspiracy Theory: By allowing the rumors to get out there and then by sticking with UT, Pearl let the world know that Tennessee, in his view, is a better job than Memphis. (That might have been a happy side effect, but I don't think it was the master plan.)

10. Conspiracy Theory: Memphis, it appears, was flirting heavily with USC's Tim Floyd while they also were speaking to Pearl. Perhaps they flirted with Pearl only to make UT fans nervous and to force Tennessee to spend more. (I don't believe that one, either, because Memphis wouldn't want to be turned down publicly.)

11. A school asking for permission to speak with a coach is usually the last step in the process. Deals are worked out between intermediaries and only then do public talks begin. Kentucky actually asked for permission to speak with John Calipari a day after they'd already spoken with him. It's a meaningless, antiquated custom.

12. Pearl's job just got tougher with Calipari entering the SEC East. He knows that. Will fans adjust their expectations accordingly? Nope. And Pearl knows that, too.

13. Memphis would have given Pearl more money, a FedEx paid internship program for his players, stock options in FedEx, his own kingdom where football coaches and women's basketball coaches are never mentioned, a better recruiting base, and a conference so weak that high tournament seeds and Final Fours are much easier to attain. Don't kid yourself that Memphis isn't just as good a job as Tennessee.

14. Bothered by fans' complaints this year, Pearl needs to realize that wherever he goes - certainly wherever he goes that pays him $2 million - the fans will grumble and complain over every loss. He's no longer the fifth biggest thing in Milwaukee. Now on a big stage with a big bank account, Pearl will hear gripes.

15. UT fans need to realize that an East Division title and an NCAA trip are darn good for this program. The goal might be to reach Final Fours and turn into a powerhouse, but that's never been done in Knoxville. Just four years ago, ESPN's Jay Bilas asked, "Why would anyone want to coach at Tennessee?" Pearl changed all that. Vol fans need to remember that. There's a difference between goals and expectations.

16. People need to remember that point next year, too, as Pearl works to get the most out of some disappointing young players. He himself said that his team, at times, had lacked leadership and heart last year. Those aren't easy fixes.

17. I've heard it said that because UT made facility upgrades for Pearl, he owed it to Tennessee to stay. I'm pretty sure those facility upgrades would have been there as a lure to a new coach and to future recruits had Pearl left. The facility improvements might have been requested by Pearl, but they were hardly a selfless act on UT's part.

18. Pearl should be loyal to Hamilton for rescuing him from exile. And he has been. But at what point does that stop being a factor? Can Pearl never leave? Is he indebted to the point that he must stay at Tennessee forever or else he's to be viewed as a turncoat? What's the statute of limitations on career salvation?

19. Did Pearl cost himself any goodwill by flirting with one of Tennessee's biggest enemies? In some circles, perhaps. I heard my share of, "well, if he wants to go then let him," calls and e-mails on Thursday. But I think most folks understand that this is just part of the business. And, ultimately, Pearl did choose the Vols over Memphis.

20. If a rival company had gotten word to you that they'd give you a bigger salary, a bigger office, a better retirement plan and an easier job . . . you'd have listened, too.

John Pennington hosts the Sports Source on Sunday at 11 a.m. on WATE.

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Voluvr writes:

Didn't Pennington say he should go?

Voluvr writes:

Pennington seems to want some level of purity or perfection from "a man." What is it with him that qualifies a coach to be worthy of his praise.

He say's it's Pearl's first time to "play the game?" I sounds as if it's Pennington's first time to realize how the game is played.

Seriouslyorange writes:

Coach Pearl chose us!!! What else matters? How,who said what, who offered what, let the Memphis folks ponder those things, let's just be damn glad he stayed. The 'black curtains' will not grace TBA anytime soon!

stayingorange writes:

More media BS. It's Pearl's fault the "rumors" were swirling? BS. Pearl didn't start them and I wonder why that means he should have to end them. You say all he had to do was say he was staying - was that the case with Butch Davis or Gruden or others for the football opening? Absolutely not. In fact the more they said they were staying the more stories you guys wrote saying how that's the way they "play the game."

These 20 opinions are just that - your opinion, without a single source to verify any of them. Exactly what was being spattered about a few days ago regarding Pearl leaving and now you're doubling down on the same BS.

Write stories with facts and no one has to put an end to rumors they have no control over.

I'm glad Pearl got the raise and he should buy all of you idiots a beer for it.

Voluvr writes:

WooOOOooooooo Pennington is such an investigative reporter...Hold the Presses.....Penn cracked the case!

This rumbling is so irrelevant.

memphis_vol_fan writes:

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SandyLoyCCM writes:

I don't have a problem with Pearl doing whatever he needed to do to get compensated as much as he can get. That is what America is about.

If he had gone to Memphis for a few hundred thousand I would have questioned his sanity though. Because John, the Memphis job will never be as good as the UTK job....NEVER.

I am glad he is staying and he has put UT back on the BB map...if and when Pearl leaves we can now get a top name guy who can carry on.

In the meantime, I hope Pearl gets all he can because he has paid his dues. That said, I also hope he gets back to coaching this year like he did in the pre-divorce era. Whatever changed this year he took a differnet approach.

He needs to go back to the one that worked the best. Despite what you may think John, TN fans will live with anything if the team gives great effort. Lack of effort and stupid bone head play will never be accepted regardless of the won loss record, ask Jerry Greene.

I am sure CBP is smart enough to know what worked and what didn't. I think we'll see the old CBP this Fall.

oasis3#214380 writes:

Pennington must think Vol fans could not get through the week without a lecture from him about how crazy we are and how unrealistic our views and expectations are. Another attempt by Penn to say he is much smarter and wiser than than the rest of us. He still reminds me of Goober from Andy Griffith. Grew a beard and suddenly was a brilliant philosopher. Pennington is still a Goober.

teampenny#658108 writes:

Different play from the same players-sounds like we could be describing our football team or girls basketball team. The hope of all fans. That is why this saying is so popular "Wait until next year." Mostly the article makes sense.

Gilvol writes:

Pennington, he never flirted with Memphis at all. He was in Detroit giving Rick Pitino the Adolph Rupp award for Coach of the year on Thursday. There was nothing exchanged between Pearl and Memphis. This escalated because guys like you make up stuff that isn't true. Maybe you should have facts before you write!

utchris writes:

Let it go already. Memphis used the back channels to throw out a preliminary offer and Pearl used that to his advantage. That does not mean that Pearl seriously flirted with actually going there. If anything it looks like he did this more for his assistants and job security rather than a drastic raise. Reality is that he probably could have gotten more out of Tennessee if he really wanted too.

I have to believe that he never really considered Memphis that seriously or to be as good of a job as TN because he would have either bolted or milked it for more money.

abnerPeabody writes:

in response to stayingorange:

More media BS. It's Pearl's fault the "rumors" were swirling? BS. Pearl didn't start them and I wonder why that means he should have to end them. You say all he had to do was say he was staying - was that the case with Butch Davis or Gruden or others for the football opening? Absolutely not. In fact the more they said they were staying the more stories you guys wrote saying how that's the way they "play the game."

These 20 opinions are just that - your opinion, without a single source to verify any of them. Exactly what was being spattered about a few days ago regarding Pearl leaving and now you're doubling down on the same BS.

Write stories with facts and no one has to put an end to rumors they have no control over.

I'm glad Pearl got the raise and he should buy all of you idiots a beer for it.

Is your post fact or opinion?Do you have any sources to back up your opinion?

txsvol#372416 writes:

He's paid to write something, and to me, it's a pretty good article. It's an opinion/analysis-type article, and it's about basketball, not astrophysics! SAVol

jzt writes:

It is very hard for me to be critical of Bruce Pearl after we have seen the antics that went on with the football program this year. Mike hamilton doled out a ridiculous raise and extension last year to a mediocre coach. If any thing Bruce Pearl showed how sharp he was by keeping his mouth shut and not picking up his phone for a few hours. I agree that Hamilton did the right thing by ponying up to Pearls demands but the difference to me was that he was in demand. Not one university or pro team was ever after Fulmer but there he went throwing money at a coach that no one else ever considered. Lane Kiffin has a lot to prove, but if he proves it you better bet he has learned a lesson from Bruce.

Inquisitor writes:

John Pennington needs to realize that when he has nothing to go on except supposition, conjecture, and wild guesses, we'd rather not hear it. Basically he's calling Coach Bruce Pearl a liar, and I don't buy it. I think Pennington is the liar, writing a list of 20 items like they are fact. Pennington, you should have stopped at one or two points and expanded on that, if you knew any of this stuff to be true, which I don't think you did. You need to realize, and you need to remember, that we know BS when we read it.

UTvols12342000 writes:

in response to Inquisitor:

John Pennington needs to realize that when he has nothing to go on except supposition, conjecture, and wild guesses, we'd rather not hear it. Basically he's calling Coach Bruce Pearl a liar, and I don't buy it. I think Pennington is the liar, writing a list of 20 items like they are fact. Pennington, you should have stopped at one or two points and expanded on that, if you knew any of this stuff to be true, which I don't think you did. You need to realize, and you need to remember, that we know BS when we read it.

well put

DarthVol writes:

"...and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." - Sir Bedevere

DarthVol writes:

in response to DarthVol:

"...and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped." - Sir Bedevere

Trumped by MParker in the Adams article. Amazing coincidence, imo.

orangegrass writes:

in response to supersmo18:

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What article did YOU read? The man was just making some points. I don't doubt that Pearl did play the game and why not? The last line says it all. I don't see this article as criticle - just real observations and comments. Hey, if you don't like what is written - don't read anything on this site.

TK writes:

If Bruce or anyone said he did not do something. We should take them at their word until you find out you can't. Most sport writers to get a scoop over their rivals. Take a mole hill and turn it into a mountain by adding dirt.

vol98champ writes:

I'm "old school". I remember the good old days when journalists like Fred Russell and John Bibb wrote positive articles about sports. They were revered and honored for their opinions. Sometimes they were wrong(Bibb predicted a UT victory over Alabama a number of times during our long loosing streak to them in football}, but they were objective and honest. Some of those years we had the better personnel and should have won. We have the same problem in Nashville now that you do---writers who think they know it all. Could this be one of the main reasons news papers are going out of business?

rusty_shackleford writes:

What little I read of this garbage is circumstantial. The unbelievable statement is the first written as fact. There is ZERO proof in what I read.

Here, let me use the same logic that KP uses to make a statement of fact. "Pennington is fat. He writes columns for the KNS. Therefore, there must be free food, and lots of it at the KNS." Pretty stupid, huh? But not far from what was written above.

By printing this, the KNS has stooped to the level of the National Enquirer. And they wonder why their business model is failing miserably!

Waldorf writes:

So wait a minute......

So once again this whole thing was Foolmore's fault. If he hadn't ran the football program into the ground so bad that a change had to be made, then the last week doesn't happen.

Thanks again Foolmore.

kennedymj1#206091 writes:

Who said Iraq would be easy you dufus??????

dma38256#264746 writes:

in response to SandyLoyCCM:

I don't have a problem with Pearl doing whatever he needed to do to get compensated as much as he can get. That is what America is about.

If he had gone to Memphis for a few hundred thousand I would have questioned his sanity though. Because John, the Memphis job will never be as good as the UTK job....NEVER.

I am glad he is staying and he has put UT back on the BB map...if and when Pearl leaves we can now get a top name guy who can carry on.

In the meantime, I hope Pearl gets all he can because he has paid his dues. That said, I also hope he gets back to coaching this year like he did in the pre-divorce era. Whatever changed this year he took a differnet approach.

He needs to go back to the one that worked the best. Despite what you may think John, TN fans will live with anything if the team gives great effort. Lack of effort and stupid bone head play will never be accepted regardless of the won loss record, ask Jerry Greene.

I am sure CBP is smart enough to know what worked and what didn't. I think we'll see the old CBP this Fall.

Agree wholeheartedly with this ....UT is darn lucky to have Bruce Pearl..

jhayes0926#638474 writes:

thought this was a very good article. Has a lot of good accurate observations. I love Bruce Pearl and hope he stays a long time.

Some of you guys out there that only want "positive" comments don't want to face up to realism. Fact is, Ky. is much more competitive now. You guys that say "Bruce has Cal's number" are real dolts. Bruce's job in the East just got twice as hard.

I don't begrudge anyone getting what the market will bear and I respect Bruce for helping his assistants. Doesn't sound good for UT next yr. not having a leader. Hope Wayne changes his attitude and becomes that leader.

drwfocus#660070 writes:

Pennington going against Pearl on any aspect of basketball, including compensation issues, is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. What a dildo.

PaulTheVol writes:

I think this is a pretty good analysis of the situation. Obviously Hamilton believed Pearl was a viable candidate for the Memphis job - or some other job - or else he wouldn't have restructured the deal and given Pearl pretty much everything he wanted. I am happy that Hamilton stepped up and did this because it shows HS coaches and players that Tennessee is serious about making a commitment to men's basketball.

Pearl can claim that he didn't flirt with Memphis and maybe he did insulate himself from any direct discussions about another job, but somebody must have had contact with Pearl's representative because too many media outlets (besides Scripps newspapers) were independently reporting the interest. One thing I've learned about coaches is that for 99% of them loyalty goes as far as the checkbook will allow and Pearl pretty much confirmed that in his statements defending the deal.

I have to wonder if Pearl investigated the interest in him becoming the UConn coach if Jim Calhoun retires as expected. With his New England ties he would seem to be a strong candidate and maybe Hamilton was responding to that threat as well.

GR82BAVOL writes:

"OUR BELIEFS ARE OFTEN TAINTED BY OUR ALLEGIANCES".

He should've saved that statement for a different, more note-worthy piece because it's the only intelligent statement in the article.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to supersmo18:

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IMHO, Pennington was just trying to give some of us who do not have inside access an idea of how the modern business of hiring and retaining coaches works. What purpose does it serve for him or anyone else to write that there was no chance CBP might go elsewhere when that was not and will not be the case?

I'm sure most of us would prefer to think that all of our coaches and players think only of what WE want for the school and the program, but the fact is that they, just like all the rest of us, are mostly concerned about what they see as best for THEM in a given circumstance. Don't hold them to a standard that none of the rest of us live by.

Be glad when they decide that their personal goals and ours coincide to the point that we can all continue to work together, rather than taking the attitude that "they owe us" anything that they DON'T perceive to be in their own best interest.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to Inquisitor:

John Pennington needs to realize that when he has nothing to go on except supposition, conjecture, and wild guesses, we'd rather not hear it. Basically he's calling Coach Bruce Pearl a liar, and I don't buy it. I think Pennington is the liar, writing a list of 20 items like they are fact. Pennington, you should have stopped at one or two points and expanded on that, if you knew any of this stuff to be true, which I don't think you did. You need to realize, and you need to remember, that we know BS when we read it.

I don't have any more inside info than anyone else, but what Pennington wrote rang true to me. When CBP said that he had not been contacted (directly) by Memphis, he was probably telling the truth. When Pennington said that feelers had been extended from Memphis interests, he was ALSO probably telling the truth.

As has been stated over and over on here, what happens in the initial stages is that some booster for a school contacts the AGENT of the coach the school wants, in order to gauge mutual interest. That kind of contact happens ALL THE TIME but it is deliberately kept out of the public view as much as possible so no responsible OFFICIAL of any school has to make public statements that they may later have to disavow.

It is really beside the point if anything Pennington wrote ACTUALLY happened, but it WAS at least a pretty good guess as to how it may have happened. The fact is that the public may NEVER know just what actually was said by whom when, but it is really none of our business until the process is over. All of the parties who have to make decisions about coaching moves or retention are looking out for THEIR OWN personal or institutional interests, NOT those of casual fans like us.

As I said in an earlier post, we Vol fans should be glad that, in the end, however unpleasant the details may be for some of us, all the UT parties involved have reached a basis on which they can all continue to work together, and the result of that is that CBP will remain here to make the UT program the best it can be. I for one am glad for that.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to kennedymj1#206091:

Who said Iraq would be easy you dufus??????

Dick Cheney for one. He said our troops would be greeted as liberators and that his man, Ahmed Chalabi, would lead a seamless transition into democratic civilian rule. He was quoted to that effect on several occasions.

johnlg00 writes:

Of course, I did NOT use Cheney's formal name in my post, I used the one that all of us know him by. Stupid site filter!

devault1#205322 writes:

#13 - Don't kid yourself that Memphis isn't just as good a job as Tennessee.

When it comes to men's basketball, I agree.

- Tiger Fan in Townsend

johnlg00 writes:

in response to PaulTheVol:

I think this is a pretty good analysis of the situation. Obviously Hamilton believed Pearl was a viable candidate for the Memphis job - or some other job - or else he wouldn't have restructured the deal and given Pearl pretty much everything he wanted. I am happy that Hamilton stepped up and did this because it shows HS coaches and players that Tennessee is serious about making a commitment to men's basketball.

Pearl can claim that he didn't flirt with Memphis and maybe he did insulate himself from any direct discussions about another job, but somebody must have had contact with Pearl's representative because too many media outlets (besides Scripps newspapers) were independently reporting the interest. One thing I've learned about coaches is that for 99% of them loyalty goes as far as the checkbook will allow and Pearl pretty much confirmed that in his statements defending the deal.

I have to wonder if Pearl investigated the interest in him becoming the UConn coach if Jim Calhoun retires as expected. With his New England ties he would seem to be a strong candidate and maybe Hamilton was responding to that threat as well.

Well said. It was also speculated that CBP might be considered for the Arizona job. The fact is that when a spot opens up at a place like UK or Memphis, that means that just about every OTHER job in the country looks less settled than it was before the coaching carousel started spinning. It is "musical chairs" all around until everyone finally sits down or gets left out. Let's be glad that CBP's seat is still HERE rather than somewhere else. Don't hate the player(s), hate the game.

Slystone writes:

in response to devault1#205322:

#13 - Don't kid yourself that Memphis isn't just as good a job as Tennessee.

When it comes to men's basketball, I agree.

- Tiger Fan in Townsend

Agreed, the only difference is UT plays in a BCS conference and UM plays in C-USA which is weak in comparison. Memphis should bounce back, but the coaching rejections are very embarassing. Right now I hear Reggie Theus, Andy Kennedy or Derek Kellogg. If none of them are interested then it will really get ugly.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to jcvet:

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If you watched the semi-final between MSU and UConn, you may have noticed that MSU's big man, Suton, stepped outside for a couple of key 3's that kept Thabeet from camping in front of the rim all night. As a result, a smaller MSU squad was able to get repeated offensive rebounds which were HUGE factors in their win.

I too used to pull my hair at SOME of Wayne's 3's last year, but, with a little more discipline from CBP about what is and what isn't a good shot, Wayne's 3-pt shooting can and should be a major weapon for us next year, along with more of the progress he showed in the low post last year.

In fact, I would go so far as to suggest CBP invest a bit of his new riches to spend a week or two with Tom Izzo to see how he does it. He can even deduct the cost from his taxes as a legitimate business expense. MSU teams always rebound well, run the half-court offense well, play tough defense, and this year they could also run with the ball. Notice how many run-outs they got from the half-court defense without pressing full-court at all.

Of course, it helped that MSU started three seniors and two juniors, which, come to think of it, is not far from what UT may well start next year, if Tyler stays. Still, MSU might be a good model for UT to emulate unless or until CBP gets the players he wants to get back to playing the 94' game.

Colliervol writes:

John, I've agreed with a lot of your comments over the years but I hope you didn't spend a lot of time coming up with this column. (I mean we waited a month to get this from you?) At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if he was in touch with them or not. He's staying and that's all I care about.

Cherokee writes:

Sure wish Pennington could have figured out a way to talk abuot the "flirtation" with Memphis without basically calling Pearl a liar.

I think Pearl probably did what anyone would do - allow the fact that he has earned the interest of other schools to drive up his worth. May be semantics, but it probably depends on what someone says is "flirting". Pennington should have used the sense to note that rather than saying "I know he said he didn't, but he did".

TomMorello writes:

Pennington made his name from one article in 2006. Since then it's been on cruise control.

TomMorello writes:

in response to ButchIsBack:

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Butch,

Come on you don't call Jimmy Hyams and Chuck Cavalaris "real connections"?

They are always in the know.

richvol writes:

in response to johnlg00:

I don't have any more inside info than anyone else, but what Pennington wrote rang true to me. When CBP said that he had not been contacted (directly) by Memphis, he was probably telling the truth. When Pennington said that feelers had been extended from Memphis interests, he was ALSO probably telling the truth.

As has been stated over and over on here, what happens in the initial stages is that some booster for a school contacts the AGENT of the coach the school wants, in order to gauge mutual interest. That kind of contact happens ALL THE TIME but it is deliberately kept out of the public view as much as possible so no responsible OFFICIAL of any school has to make public statements that they may later have to disavow.

It is really beside the point if anything Pennington wrote ACTUALLY happened, but it WAS at least a pretty good guess as to how it may have happened. The fact is that the public may NEVER know just what actually was said by whom when, but it is really none of our business until the process is over. All of the parties who have to make decisions about coaching moves or retention are looking out for THEIR OWN personal or institutional interests, NOT those of casual fans like us.

As I said in an earlier post, we Vol fans should be glad that, in the end, however unpleasant the details may be for some of us, all the UT parties involved have reached a basis on which they can all continue to work together, and the result of that is that CBP will remain here to make the UT program the best it can be. I for one am glad for that.

Thank you,thank you...I can't see how anything that Pennington wrote was offensive in any way and it does ring accurate on many points. In any case the article was praiseworthy of Pearl and made perfect sense. The bottom line is as Pennington suggests...Pearl turned down big money for a job here that was and now is much tougher than the Memphis job. Any way you cook that it's a positive.

I do take issue with Pearl complaining about criticisims of his teams performance this past season if that is indeed how he felt. They made more bonehead plays in one game than we have seen in the past several games in the NCAA tourney...and he let them get away with it. The criticisim is justifiable...sorry.

I'm glad Tennessee had the sense to hold on to Pearl but I want to see something much better in the way of basketball IQ next year. If not,then the heat is really coming to an arena near you.

Ralph_Crampton writes:

I think that most of this talk was caused by the dominance of Kentucky of the Vols...The Cats have won three out of the last four...If our coach realized it Vol fans will not accept a Kentucky team defeating a team in Knoxville,,,Its been that way for 45 years. Vol fans have always been disgruntled after Kentucky wins at Knoxville..Vandy and Memphis games not near that important to the big Orange fans. I think all this talk is over the devasting loss to the Cats when Meeks scored 54 points.

deakinbi writes:

in response to Plasticman:

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Don't win the SEC East outirght, Don't win the SEC tourney, Elminated in round 1...HAven't won anything with his own players (BTW KY Killed us!)

Where's the Ad's AX?! Hamilton you're getting soft...

johnlg00 writes:

in response to Colliervol:

John, I've agreed with a lot of your comments over the years but I hope you didn't spend a lot of time coming up with this column. (I mean we waited a month to get this from you?) At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if he was in touch with them or not. He's staying and that's all I care about.

Well, one can seldom go wrong focusing on the bottom line, but, judging from the number and tone of the posts on all the various columns on this subject, it does matter to lots of us how CBP is viewed nationally and how likely it is that some other program might make a serious run at him. Also, it is clear that many who post on here have no real idea of the psychology of the process of hiring and retaining coaches in today's world.

Pennington may not have the BEST info on this situation, but anyone who has much better info isn't likely to share it with us anytime soon, and his peek into the process should be enlightening to anyone who doesn't feel they already know all that matters about it, whether they actually do or not.

I'm as glad as anyone that CBP is staying put AND that we were able to keep him without totally breaking the bank. Comments by some to the contrary, I think this incident shows that CBP DOES feel loyalty to UT AND that the athletic dept was smart enough to reward him for it without a lot of distasteful posturing on either side.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to deakinbi:

Don't win the SEC East outirght, Don't win the SEC tourney, Elminated in round 1...HAven't won anything with his own players (BTW KY Killed us!)

Where's the Ad's AX?! Hamilton you're getting soft...

Please tell me you were joking! If not, you are either not a Vol fan or you have serious amnesia regarding the state of the program before CBP came here. If it WAS a joke, all is forgiven(;-P)!

gbeejr#1354500 writes:

in response to johnlg00:

Well, one can seldom go wrong focusing on the bottom line, but, judging from the number and tone of the posts on all the various columns on this subject, it does matter to lots of us how CBP is viewed nationally and how likely it is that some other program might make a serious run at him. Also, it is clear that many who post on here have no real idea of the psychology of the process of hiring and retaining coaches in today's world.

Pennington may not have the BEST info on this situation, but anyone who has much better info isn't likely to share it with us anytime soon, and his peek into the process should be enlightening to anyone who doesn't feel they already know all that matters about it, whether they actually do or not.

I'm as glad as anyone that CBP is staying put AND that we were able to keep him without totally breaking the bank. Comments by some to the contrary, I think this incident shows that CBP DOES feel loyalty to UT AND that the athletic dept was smart enough to reward him for it without a lot of distasteful posturing on either side.

I don't always agree w/Pennington commentary, but I agree with you, Paulthevol and richvol (and maybe their was 1 or 2 more) that this was a informative, in-depth piece on what different scenarios could have taken place, and nothing more. For those of you that are still unsettled (seems like the majority of the posters) just relax, take a breath, Pennington is not casting ill will or seeds of rebellion. The article is only mentioning what we were all thinking about just a few days ago, what's wrong with that? Get a grip.

bmaples writes:

I'm not going to waste time reading all these comments. I think it was a good article, with some good points.

I think there was a possibility CBP would leave. And I'm dang glad he stayed.

Now let's see if he can do something with the returning team.

Bruce in Louisville
brucemaples.com

budd#207344 writes:

Do any of the people who post here ever read the article. All Pennington did was give you the list of 20 different quotes, comments, etc. that were said or published during the time. I heard a couple of these myself. His comments are true especially bilas's comment about "who would want to coach there".
You guys are either really poor at reading comprehension or maybe John is doing your wives. Can't figure out which but please stop making yourselves look sooo stupid

murrayvol writes:

in response to budd#207344:

Do any of the people who post here ever read the article. All Pennington did was give you the list of 20 different quotes, comments, etc. that were said or published during the time. I heard a couple of these myself. His comments are true especially bilas's comment about "who would want to coach there".
You guys are either really poor at reading comprehension or maybe John is doing your wives. Can't figure out which but please stop making yourselves look sooo stupid

They can't help themselves budd.

And when Bilas made that comment, it was a damn good question.

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