Gran didn't sign memo, doesn't owe UT penalty

Tennessee athletic director Mike Hamilton said Eddie Gran was the only assistant coach to not sign a memorandum of understanding, which acts as a contract.

By not signing the MOU, Gran, who was UT’s running backs coach and special teams coordinator, is not contractually obligated to pay UT for terminating his contract after making what is considered a lateral move to Florida State.

Gran, who was paid $185,000 and was to received $195,000 in 2010, would have owed UT $92,500 payable over 24 months.

Since the rest of UT’s coaching staff has signed memorandums of understanding, each would have to pay a buyout for a lateral move to another school.

Tennessee’s coaches are expected to sign completed formal contracts in the near future.

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BTree4UT writes:

Great to hear that Gran stayed around this week and helped game plan for Va Tech!! Class act!

Voltose writes:

Did it happen to slip happen to slip their minds.. How do these coaches go so long without signing their contracts?

jcvol#215939 writes:

Somebody in the Administration needs to be cut loose ... how does this lack of internal control pass state audit?

RockinTop writes:

wow, how does that happen?

GahLee writes:

in response to jcvol#215939:

Somebody in the Administration needs to be cut loose ... how does this lack of internal control pass state audit?

This is my what I'm thinking, why are they not under contract by now, bigger question; why was Gran on our sidelines with signing something?

Good grief.

kthompson#255227 writes:

An unsigned contract, with the actions to acquiese in its terms to back it up, is enforceable. He isn't out of the woods, and UT should hold his feet to the fire, IMO. I hope UT's legal dept. figures it out.

bluetick writes:

What? I'm sure someone loses their job over this. That's a serious mistake.

steamboatticket#484773 writes:

in response to GahLee:

This is my what I'm thinking, why are they not under contract by now, bigger question; why was Gran on our sidelines with signing something?

Good grief.

Maybe Kiff and Gran had an old fashioned understanding called a gentleman's agreement.

PlaidinOrangeandWhite writes:

The better question is, why did we give him a paycheck without him signing the contract.

Major_Magilicutty writes:

Gahlee, I get a headache trying to read your posts. Slow down and type a correct sentence my friend.

TipsyCoachman writes:

in response to PlaidinOrangeandWhite:

The better question is, why did we give him a paycheck without him signing the contract.

Because he provided services to the Athletic Dept. You know...coaching, recruiting, things like that.

TipsyCoachman writes:

in response to kthompson#255227:

An unsigned contract, with the actions to acquiese in its terms to back it up, is enforceable. He isn't out of the woods, and UT should hold his feet to the fire, IMO. I hope UT's legal dept. figures it out.

I believe it takes more than that to have an enforceable contract. In this situation, there would need to be some sort of reliance by UT on the MOU. Also, my understanding is that Gran was hired/classified as a risk employee which would entitle him to leave at anytime - kind of like an at-will employee.

AppreciativeAlum writes:

Tennessee is a right to work state. I also think it is an "At Will" state.

randyarnold writes:

If the university needs $92,500, then they will raise the price of soft drinks by 5-cents at football and basketball games. This is no big deal.

Jakeriver writes:

Gran did what he needed to do. A good coach that needs to move up. What's the problem? Good luck Gran!!

volbald writes:

Demote whoever was supposed to get Coach Gran to sign his contract but didn't. What's going on with the Athletic Department? Can't they do anything but raise ticket prices? Everybody is an at-will employee unless that contract says that the employer has to have cause to discharge the employee and then defines the "cause." Public employees may have a "propery right" in their jobs if they have such a contract. Gran could have been an intentional exception from the payback arrangement but the article doesn't read that way.

heyitsme writes:

in response to randyarnold:

If the university needs $92,500, then they will raise the price of soft drinks by 5-cents at football and basketball games. This is no big deal.

Kinda like taxes... I bet you think we aren't taxed enough as is... uh?

Why should the rest of us pay for someone else's incompetence? That is what's wrong with our world today...

Okay, I'll shut up and get off the 'political' box... Sorry, but it struck a nerve.

GBO

stayingorange writes:

Yeah he was clearly committed to UT. I was for him while he was here, but he can flounder at FSU with the rest of them now. Think about 1998 Seminoles!

dunnjon#224515 writes:

he was an "at risk" employee ! Can leave anytime without penalty. So what ? This was reported in an article on this sight earlier this wee = old news. GO VOLS !!!

FWBVol writes:

Here's something I want to know. If, after this season, Kiffin had fired Gran, would UT have been required to pay him anything since he didn't have a signed contract?

dvols writes:

ok then.....

go_vols_go writes:

in response to jcvol#215939:

Somebody in the Administration needs to be cut loose ... how does this lack of internal control pass state audit?

Perhaps it was understood from the beginning that he would be leaving. On the other hand, I agree that if you get the guy you want for a job you try everything lock them in.

smokies_old_soul writes:

in response to PlaidinOrangeandWhite:

The better question is, why did we give him a paycheck without him signing the contract.

i agree.

despite the smart-alec comment that we paid gran to coach, recruit, etc............. by not signing anything he gets to have it both ways.

and he did.

haven't you noticed that fla. state signed two 5* recruits in the five days that gran has left for tallahassee ? maybe he never signed his contract so he could recruit for whomever he wanted w/o an obligation to tennessee.

TinCup writes:

Wow! $185,000 plus $92,000 for allowing blocked kicks in a huge game, giving up big return yardage and not taking one to the house ourselves.

Where do I apply?

TinCup writes:

He also didn't sign a memorandum of understanding that special teams need to improve.

Observer43 writes:

I seem to recall that everyone was in agreement that Gran chosse not to go for the buyout. It cuts both ways and we appreciate him for all he has done while he was here.

hueypilot writes:

Eddie Gran worked for Tommy Turbeville for 14 years. He probably figured he would follow T to greener pastures after TT took a year off. That didn't happen and Gran probably, for whatever reason wasn't happy at UT and took off for Tallahassee, which, if you have ever been there is kinda like Oxford, kinda like Auburn. small college town, inbred culture, etc. Gran also found out that TT is headed to Georgia to be the DC and head coach in waiting for when Richt retires at an early age in the not too distant future to pursue missionary work with his wife.

So there you have it. I worked for a lot of years with no contract and lots of you do too. I had a one day renewable verbal contract. Day to day. Not a bad deal really. Anybody is unhappy, you just part ways.

txvolsfan writes:

in response to vols__72:

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Vol_72 you are dead wrong on this. Eddie Gran is one of the best people in the coaching profession. He is a total class act and a very good christian man. I hate also that he left UT BUT people leave jobs everyday for their own reasons and if he wanted to leave it was best that he left. You can't say this man is not a class act if you know him personally. You are the loser my friend or just an informed idiot!!!
Best of luck coach Gran, your family has been through a lot and I support you because I know that everything you do now is for your family.
God Bless and good luck.
GO VOLS
TXVOLSFAN

volswithclass writes:

Gran didnt sign his because he knew he wanted to leave. That way he would not have been penalized. Either he didnt like what he saw when he got there or he thought Tuberville was going to get a new job.

ramrodjack writes:

in response to FWBVol:

Here's something I want to know. If, after this season, Kiffin had fired Gran, would UT have been required to pay him anything since he didn't have a signed contract?

If he was fired without signing they would not owe him anything. On the other hand, if he leaves he owes them nothing. He took a gamble and in this situation it paid off for him. He nor the university did anything wrong. This is just like insurance. If you do not have insurance and never need it good for you. If you do not have it and need it, it could cost you.

shopsports#273141 writes:

Obviously Gran never wanted to be at UT. He was allowed to come steal infomation about the Kiffin group/UT et all to sell elsewhere. NOT a good job Lane. Maybe that is why you vow to be more careful replacing him. We can only hope Gran GETS HIS down the road. Jimbo seems to be building a dirty staff. Hope it bites them back soon and often. It is obvious that the coach and assistant trading/buying wars have started and will continue in a manner not experienced in the past so we might as well start playing HARD and DIRTY with the best of them quick and often. Lane and company should do fine at this. GO GET 'EM!!!!

shopsports#273141 writes:

Gran is a rat hiding in his sappy personal story portraying himself as a good guy. NOT

Ringside writes:

Need to dot i's and cross t's when hiring in the future. IF the prospective coach does not sign, he is not committed to UT and should not be hired.
Blitz,
Kissimmee,FL

bigorange101582 writes:

I could understand Gran leaving for more money but not for a lateral move.

Ringleader writes:

Hamilton needs to resign today, he is in way over his head.

The1 writes:

It is likely that Gran never intended to stay....he probably just let the memo fester in his email inbox. Had the FSU deal not come through he could have simply turned the signed memo in late. It does appear he did not really intend to stay for more than a year. I would not expect much change at FSU. Fisher has been there and the program has gone down hill. If Fisher knew what to do to bring FSU back then why didnt he already do it? Is it possible he was sabotaging Bowden??

tedvolNC writes:

I was just thinking that the majority of people blasting Mike Hamilton for not making Coach Gran sign the MOU are the same people that write in every day complaining about the money we are still paying Coach Fulmer.Had coach Fulmer did the same as Coach Gran, UT would not owe him a penny. (I have great respect for Coach Fulmer and I back CLK 100% and I am not slighting either or implying anything about what the University pays either one of them). This is just like an Insurance policy that Fulmer signed and Gran did not, it worked out best for each coachs. Also the University DID NOT lose $92,500 they just did not get come out ahead by $92,500. They payed him for 1 years work and that is all. It works out best for Gran, and if CLK hires a better coach to take Gran's place then UT comes out ahead also!

Titans_Vols777 writes:

in response to BTree4UT:

Great to hear that Gran stayed around this week and helped game plan for Va Tech!! Class act!

Good ridance "coach" gran. I hope FSU does terrible, and you are looking for a job real soon. Again good ridance boy

givehim6 writes:

in response to txvolsfan:

Vol_72 you are dead wrong on this. Eddie Gran is one of the best people in the coaching profession. He is a total class act and a very good christian man. I hate also that he left UT BUT people leave jobs everyday for their own reasons and if he wanted to leave it was best that he left. You can't say this man is not a class act if you know him personally. You are the loser my friend or just an informed idiot!!!
Best of luck coach Gran, your family has been through a lot and I support you because I know that everything you do now is for your family.
God Bless and good luck.
GO VOLS
TXVOLSFAN

Yes Gran my be a classy Christen guy, but I think he is a smart guy. He knew after a year he knew he would leave that is why he did not sign the letter. I am a christen also, but I know know one is purfect. After all He is just a man looking out for his family and future.

TipsyCoachman writes:

in response to LazhilUT:

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Even without a signed memo, UT would still have had to pay Gran for the services he performed. If they refused he could have sued and would have won. It is called quantum meruit.

ncvol17 writes:

c'mon guys, you hire mercenaries and they act like mercenaries... A revolving door cannot be good for a program. Lose a coach, no big deal, lose 3 or more the month b4 signing day cannot be good..these kids have no idea who their position coach will be.....I foolishly thought we would get a minimum of 2 yrs out of these mercenaries but no

Ringleader writes:

in response to steamboatticket#484773:

Maybe Kiff and Gran had an old fashioned understanding called a gentleman's agreement.

That is exactly what happened with Tubbervile and Muschamp. They had an undisputed agreement concerning pay and term, which the AD did not accept. Muschamp to Texas, end of that story. Auburn wanted to interview him last year for the Head job, and he would not interview unless the AD resigned.

Ringleader writes:

in response to LazhilUT:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

He signed a memorandum of understanding, which obviously had no buy out clause. The final contract showed up with a buy out clause, and he refused to sign. End of that story.

GAGAVOL writes:

Frick and Frack. Mumble and Jumble. It's beginning to all sound the same.

dowhatsright writes:

in response to kthompson#255227:

An unsigned contract, with the actions to acquiese in its terms to back it up, is enforceable. He isn't out of the woods, and UT should hold his feet to the fire, IMO. I hope UT's legal dept. figures it out.

Florida State would have paid the buy-out to get him. We don't want someone to stay who doesn't want to be at U.T. I assume he got a raise to the $250,000 range, or that FL State is closer to home. If so, it's natural for him to take the higher paying job.

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