Meyer status has two Gator commitments looking again at UT

Tennessee is back in the picture for two prospects from Dwyer High School in West Palm Beach, Fla.

Wide receiver Robert Clark and athlete Matt Elam are reconsidering their commitments to Florida because of Sunday’s news that Urban Meyer plans to take an indefinite leave of absence as the Gators’ head coach.

Clark and Elam were both planning to enroll at Florida in January.

Instead, Clark said the two players will likely stay at Dwyer for another semester to allow more time to make a decision.

The 5-foot-10, 175-pound Clark, who maintained he’s still committed to Florida, said he plans to visit UT next month.

Clark said he heard this weekend from UT coach Lane Kiffin.

“They have a great staff,” Clark said of the Vols. “(Kiffin) talked to me about their need at wide receiver.”

Clark could fill UT’s need for a playmaker at receiver, according to Dwyer coach Jack Daniels.

“Any time Robert touches the ball he’s got a chance to score,” Daniels said.

The 6-foot, 205-pound Elam is one of the top prospects in the state of Florida.

He took an official visit to UT in October before reaffirming his commitment to Florida.

Daniels spent time with Elam on Sunday and said along with Florida he’s considering UT, Georgia, Florida State and Miami.

Daniels said Elam has become “sick” of the recruiting process.

“He didn’t want to talk to anybody,” Daniels said of Elam. “I think he knows something’s wrong up in Gainesville and the process is starting all over again.”

Dwyer tight end Gerald Christian, who’s also committed to Florida, spoke with Elam on Sunday.

Christian said Elam was “mad” about the uncertainty regarding Meyer.

“Through all these years he always wanted to be coached by Urban Meyer,” Christian said.

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Gator_Hater (Inactive) writes:

And so it begins.

MemphisVol writes:

Come to Tennessee!!!

AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons writes:

3 days 22 hours and 11 minutes till bowl!

NFLORIDA_TNGRAD writes:

Watch the UF recruits start to flip all over the SEC.

UTBEATEMALL writes:

This is a sham to try to keep the recruiting class in place and still bring in some guys they were eyeing. Anybody that has coached anything can tell you that you either are the head coach or you're not the head coach! If he's coming back for next year, then who hires the next defensive coordinator? That's a big question these media heads should be asking. So what happens if Addazio hires a DC, Urban comes back and isn't comfortable with him? Does Urban fire someone that Addazio recruited to be his DC? How does that work actually? Am I being hired as Addazio's coordinator or Urban's? Could anybody see Tony Dungy tell Caldwell that he's going to take a break. Run the team for a year and then I'll come back and you go back to being asst. head coach! Really? What if they win a SEC Championship or National Championship without him? Ay, Steve, go back to being my assistant! Really??? Noone would do that! There selling a fraud pipe dream that he may come back to get this recruiting class on the books. A year or two from now, they'll announce that Urban has decided it's in his best interest to stay out of football and Addazio is permanent coach if he has success. If Addazio struggles next year or Urban for that matter, the fans are going to want a better scenario!! When Lane starts to raise these obvious questions in parents' heads, I think Florida will change their tune again! What kind of control will Addazio have over an 18 year old hot shot? 251 traffic incidents under Urban! What happens when they act like young people and challenge his authority? "You can't kick me out of the program without permission from Meyer!" "You're not even going to be the head coach next year or when the season begins!" What happens when the parents say, "I don't want to talk to you! I want to talk to the guy that's going to be head coach when my kid is a jumior and senior!" This on the heals of Lane preaching that the head coach being their for the four years is what's most important after the assistant coaches left. That's perfect!

AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons writes:

Yes recruits...lil' Urbie lies to all....come to Tennessee..come where you KNOW who your coach wll be AND he will not lie about your playing time.

Thad123 writes:

Where is Dc troll now i thought this would not affect Florida recruiting.

AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons writes:

Come on delta Charlie, MVuniv, 99gator, g8rgal, dc10point0 and all haters....I thought Matt Elam WAS A LOCK as a alleygator.

IThoughtIToldYa writes:

This is great news for Tennessee and exactly what happens for recruits when a great deal of uncertainty exists in coaching situations.

I can't help but think that Florida would almost be better off with a solid, concrete statement that Urban will not be back. At least if that happened, recruits would know exactly what situation they're walking into, and who their coach would be (which certainly would not be Addazio in a permanent role).

As it is though, this flip flopping by Meyer is good news for anyone looking to steal a few good recruits.

andy112382#209793 writes:

Don't forget about Mack Brown, his dad said they were looking at Tennessee before and he wanted his son to go somewhere the staff would be there for his sons stay at the school.

AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons writes:

UM will have to come out (he he, come out) and say he WILL coach next year to keep their top recruits. Man T-Bow wanted the spotlight.....dang...sniff, sniff

Bigger_Al writes:

Does anyone else see a Brett Favre-like resemblance in this Meyer situation?

TrueVol70 writes:

Who's next? Guess some recruits don't cotton well to pussyfooters. Reel 'em in, Lane!

volsfan4ever writes:

The recruits that we need most to finish off this class I think are,chaz green,torrian wilson,john cullen,christian jones,demetrius wright,and either ahmad dixon or dietrich riley.If we could get them and keep what we've got,we would definatly have a top 5 class and would be filling key spots particularly on the O-line and D-line.Throw in elam and clark and we have a possible top 3 class.

Thad123 writes:

DCs watching replays of the Urbie timothy tebow news conference all by himself in his moms basement with some Curel.

AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons writes:

in response to Bigger_Al:

Does anyone else see a Brett Favre-like resemblance in this Meyer situation?

panties4tebow writes:

Sorry, I fell asleep at my computer....What's the latest on urbie? Is he staying or has he changed his decision AGAIN?

DennisVols writes:

You have to think that the change from resigning to extended leave of absence is designed to try and stop a flood of de-commitments this close to signing day.
Yesterday His wife, Shelley Meyer, told The Orlando Sentinel in a text message that there was “no chance” that Urban Meyer would change his mind.
I would think the uncertainty is worse than knowing. If you commit to UF and then come summer time Meyer re-decides to quit, which would be possible, then you are stuck with your decision while Meyer and UF are not stuck with theirs.
This smells of a plot to deceive recruits into believing there is still a good chance Meyer is going to return come next fall. UF would not be able to put together a replacement until following the Bowl season and during that time frame it would cut the recruiting season down to about 2 weeks before signing day. UF is just trying to stem the flood by making the commitments they have think that Meyer will return. A plan that could backfire in the long and short run. The uncertainty of who will coach the gators is certainly damaging. To mislead the recruits into believing Meyer is going to return only to have it not happen could hurt the football program even worse. These kids are making a lifetime commitment, in most cases, based on what they want for their future. If UF and Meyer convinces them not to de-commit only to have that promise broken you will establish a feeling of untrustworthiness.
UF and Meyer are walking on thin ice with this. Many felt sorry for Meyer if it was his health that was causing this decision. If this turns out to be a hoax either way then trust is lost and the repercussions could be lasting.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

af_vol_fan writes:

Kiffin could use the health argument against urbie like they used it against McCain in the 2008 election.

rockytopvol writes:

in response to Thad123:

Where is Dc troll now i thought this would not affect Florida recruiting.

DC is a goon I gave him links to different places to read about it.He's just a miserable fan trying to make everybody else that way.

heyitsme writes:

Today's announcement was aimed equally at the current roster and UF's committed 2010 recruits.

Personally, I expect to see several players already on the roster defect.

But let's see if if today's deception works...

rockytopvol writes:

in response to volsfan4ever:

The recruits that we need most to finish off this class I think are,chaz green,torrian wilson,john cullen,christian jones,demetrius wright,and either ahmad dixon or dietrich riley.If we could get them and keep what we've got,we would definatly have a top 5 class and would be filling key spots particularly on the O-line and D-line.Throw in elam and clark and we have a possible top 3 class.

Don't forget RIGGS,DORSEY,SHAW and BROWN all UF commits and have been to UT and we still are in contact with them

revjulian writes:

I'm huge vol fan, but I thought this was a dead period for coaches to contact recruits? Is this going to be another secondary violation, or did the recruit call the coach (whick I think is all right).

Also, for that matter, Kiffin accusing Meyer of "cheating" last year might have had some teeth to it. Nu'Keese said that Meyer, ...'kept calling me and calling me," while he was on ut's campus. Coaches can only make ONE call (contact) to a recruit per week. Hmm...

licknpromise777#651578 writes:

in response to UTBEATEMALL:

This is a sham to try to keep the recruiting class in place and still bring in some guys they were eyeing. Anybody that has coached anything can tell you that you either are the head coach or you're not the head coach! If he's coming back for next year, then who hires the next defensive coordinator? That's a big question these media heads should be asking. So what happens if Addazio hires a DC, Urban comes back and isn't comfortable with him? Does Urban fire someone that Addazio recruited to be his DC? How does that work actually? Am I being hired as Addazio's coordinator or Urban's? Could anybody see Tony Dungy tell Caldwell that he's going to take a break. Run the team for a year and then I'll come back and you go back to being asst. head coach! Really? What if they win a SEC Championship or National Championship without him? Ay, Steve, go back to being my assistant! Really??? Noone would do that! There selling a fraud pipe dream that he may come back to get this recruiting class on the books. A year or two from now, they'll announce that Urban has decided it's in his best interest to stay out of football and Addazio is permanent coach if he has success. If Addazio struggles next year or Urban for that matter, the fans are going to want a better scenario!! When Lane starts to raise these obvious questions in parents' heads, I think Florida will change their tune again! What kind of control will Addazio have over an 18 year old hot shot? 251 traffic incidents under Urban! What happens when they act like young people and challenge his authority? "You can't kick me out of the program without permission from Meyer!" "You're not even going to be the head coach next year or when the season begins!" What happens when the parents say, "I don't want to talk to you! I want to talk to the guy that's going to be head coach when my kid is a jumior and senior!" This on the heals of Lane preaching that the head coach being their for the four years is what's most important after the assistant coaches left. That's perfect!

Your exactly right; This is all damage control by Foley..The bigger loss here would have been a mass exodus of the teams junior class;Without their return no amount of 2010 recruits can replace them..Meyer will probably be much healthier in the spring but once game preparation for the likes of UT:GA or bama rolls around the health problems and migraines will return..I give Meyer a lot of credit for just making it through the season..I believe his health is a way bigger problem than any of us really know..Foley would sell his soul to keep the Gators as a NC contender and will only worry about it till the coach is on a gurney in the ER

Thad123 writes:

in response to revjulian:

I'm huge vol fan, but I thought this was a dead period for coaches to contact recruits? Is this going to be another secondary violation, or did the recruit call the coach (whick I think is all right).

Also, for that matter, Kiffin accusing Meyer of "cheating" last year might have had some teeth to it. Nu'Keese said that Meyer, ...'kept calling me and calling me," while he was on ut's campus. Coaches can only make ONE call (contact) to a recruit per week. Hmm...

I tried to loook this up today, but i could not find it. I beleive it is one call per recruit for the week. I may be wrong.

Thad123 writes:

in response to revjulian:

I'm huge vol fan, but I thought this was a dead period for coaches to contact recruits? Is this going to be another secondary violation, or did the recruit call the coach (whick I think is all right).

Also, for that matter, Kiffin accusing Meyer of "cheating" last year might have had some teeth to it. Nu'Keese said that Meyer, ...'kept calling me and calling me," while he was on ut's campus. Coaches can only make ONE call (contact) to a recruit per week. Hmm...

Found it
The recruiting dead period surrounds Christmas and the New Year’s Holiday in regards to prospective high school athletes. During the period of December 16th until January 4th, college coaches can only call each prospect one time per week. While these coaches will still be calling pretty often, that one call is NCAA mandated and you are not allowed to call at any other time.

rockytopvol writes:

in response to Thad123:

I tried to loook this up today, but i could not find it. I beleive it is one call per recruit for the week. I may be wrong.

Great timing for this announcement recruits just hanging in the balance.They lose several over this for sure

rockytopatl writes:

Recruits are wavering even after Urbie said he's just taking a leave and his gut says he'll coach in the fall. Imagine how many would have decommitted had he stuck to his original resignation.

Today's last minute change of heart and news conference was a smokescreen. He's gone and all they were trying to do was hold the class together until after signing day.

I hope one phone call a week will get these guys moving to UT and elsewhere. My understanding is that is all that is allowed under the rules during the dead time.

richvol writes:

Kiffin and Orgeron need to go for the throat...

murrayvol writes:

in response to AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons:

Come on delta Charlie, MVuniv, 99gator, g8rgal, dc10point0 and all haters....I thought Matt Elam WAS A LOCK as a alleygator.

He was.....with emphasis on was.

FWBVol writes:

As others have stated, no matter how Urban tries to shuffle the deck now the damage has been done. The uncertainty about whether or not he'll come back now might be a bigger detriment to the Gator program than if Meyer had gone through with his resignation.

By Urban taking the leave of absence Florida will not have its best closer available in the recruiting process.

I'd hate to be the assistant coaches trying to keep things together during recruiting and beyond while Urban decides what the future holds.

Pudge writes:

UT fans, wake up! Instead of worrying about the Gators, how about we start worrying about next season and the number of losses we are looking at. We have no QB, our workhorse of a running back is gone, and there is no offensive line. Monte has shown an inability to deal with spread offenses defensively, Eric Berry is leaving, there are no healthy linebackers, and our special teams aren't very good. Before we can talk about "whipping the Gators", can we first put an SEC caliber team on the field in 2010?

murrayvol writes:

All these guys won't be coming to Tennessee but if they can read the tea leaves, many will be going somewhere.

FU has a mess on it's hands and it won't be cleaned up with a quick rewind and a convoluted press conference.

UTOTIS writes:

If I were a recruit I wouldn't go within a hundred miles of Soap Opera U.

Volsfan94 writes:

in response to Pudge:

UT fans, wake up! Instead of worrying about the Gators, how about we start worrying about next season and the number of losses we are looking at. We have no QB, our workhorse of a running back is gone, and there is no offensive line. Monte has shown an inability to deal with spread offenses defensively, Eric Berry is leaving, there are no healthy linebackers, and our special teams aren't very good. Before we can talk about "whipping the Gators", can we first put an SEC caliber team on the field in 2010?

haha how bout we have David Oku oh and this freshman named Bryce Brown as RBs....We have at least 4 QBs to have competition with each other and you saw what Lane did with Crompton. O line will be young but I am not too worried bout them considering we had 2 walk-ons starting this year so anything can happen. Monte will figure it out with the spread, he is just not used to it because he is from the NFL and they didn't wildcat alot in the NFL before he left. EB probly is leaving but Janzen Jackson will be great and you know Kiffin can find some good ones. Our Linebackers will be great. We will have Nick Reveiz, Savion Frazier, and Greg King or Josh Hawkins. Our special team will be better because we will find a good kicker and we would have a great returner in Nukeese Richardson but he had to mess up his athletic career and David Oku has givin us a little dose of what he can do with returns.
I believe we will have a great SEC team on the field in Big Orange next season and I am looking forward to the Florida game which will most likely be at home since we played in the Swamp this year.
GO VOLS!!!

Thad123 writes:

in response to Pudge:

UT fans, wake up! Instead of worrying about the Gators, how about we start worrying about next season and the number of losses we are looking at. We have no QB, our workhorse of a running back is gone, and there is no offensive line. Monte has shown an inability to deal with spread offenses defensively, Eric Berry is leaving, there are no healthy linebackers, and our special teams aren't very good. Before we can talk about "whipping the Gators", can we first put an SEC caliber team on the field in 2010?

Sombodys is angry. Pudge is a good name for you cause thats about all that comes out when you type.

Vol_Fan_4_Life_615 writes:

dont you love how it always works out so that rome always gets taken to its knees. you have urbie going farve and usc going car and house shopping for all its rbs. gonna miss hearing about usc and the Gators

TnScooby writes:

in response to Pudge:

UT fans, wake up! Instead of worrying about the Gators, how about we start worrying about next season and the number of losses we are looking at. We have no QB, our workhorse of a running back is gone, and there is no offensive line. Monte has shown an inability to deal with spread offenses defensively, Eric Berry is leaving, there are no healthy linebackers, and our special teams aren't very good. Before we can talk about "whipping the Gators", can we first put an SEC caliber team on the field in 2010?

You must not follow the Vols very closely...In case you missed it, these guys will be part of the team next year if we sign'em...We have 4 QB's in the mix, great OL committed and available, Bryce Brown and David Oku are ready to start, linebackers have a year to get healthy (plus great recruits at that position) and how in the world can you even question Monte's ability to coach the defense?...CLK finished 2nd in the SEC East with the squad decimated by 23 missing scholarship players due to injuries, dismissals, leaving etc. ....What is your point?????? We just hired a GREAT Special teams coach and you post this BS???? Get Real!!!

ccVOLSdhf writes:

Guys i watched the press confrence and im telling everyone. Biggest bunch of BS ever. You could see it in their faces. Everytime someone asked questions that would out their little cover up. NO WAY did lil urbi tell his wife and 3 kids oh sorry i changed my mind we will just all hope daddy doesn't keel over on the sidelines. NOPE sorry didnt happen. Notice his answer to how do you intend on fixing the problem in your time off. AH I don't know we will have to figure that out. BULLSH*T whats to figure out how to take stress long hours and exictement out of collage football GOOD LUCK with that one URBI. Right now tonight he 's telling his wife and kids i'm not coaching next year period. As someone already posted this hurts UF any way it goes UF has fumbled badly on this one

GBO!!!!! Down with UF...Liars U

Down_The_Field writes:

in response to panties4tebow:

Sorry, I fell asleep at my computer....What's the latest on urbie? Is he staying or has he changed his decision AGAIN?

it's too early to call but dweebo's still crying.

KiFFiNOMiCS writes:

in response to Pudge:

UT fans, wake up! Instead of worrying about the Gators, how about we start worrying about next season and the number of losses we are looking at. We have no QB, our workhorse of a running back is gone, and there is no offensive line. Monte has shown an inability to deal with spread offenses defensively, Eric Berry is leaving, there are no healthy linebackers, and our special teams aren't very good. Before we can talk about "whipping the Gators", can we first put an SEC caliber team on the field in 2010?

Wow...the point just went over your head huh McPudge? We have a chance to steal some 5* Gator committed kids...the fastest way to build up a championship team is to have the best of the best elite talented N.F.L. caliber kids on the field. Kids we've been trying to look our way with the chance to play early and often now see after one season that it wasn't B.S. Some of the best high school prospects were committed to the U(niversity) of F(elons) and now we may be able to sway a few to the Hill. You need soldiers to build an Army dude. That is what all this Meyer is gone is back is extended absence junk is really about to the VolNation...that and ruling the S.E.C. East.

crimsonviper writes:

in response to g8rgal:

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Your're just sayin'?
You should'nt be saying anything if you are ignorant of the rules.
They can make one call a week.

UTBEATEMALL writes:

in response to crimsonviper:

Your're just sayin'?
You should'nt be saying anything if you are ignorant of the rules.
They can make one call a week.

To add to, this rule also does not exclude a kid from calling them. All this does is limit the coach from initiating the phone call once per week. You better believe that there were plenty of parents and high school coaches calling Kiffin and a lot of other coaches to get their professional take on what this means.

CadmiumOchre (Inactive) writes:

in response to af_vol_fan:

Kiffin could use the health argument against urbie like they used it against McCain in the 2008 election.

The smartest thing for Lane to do is say nothing. Slive is just waiting to hit him again. Plus silence let's this Meyer-mistake play out with the full consequences. Which I too think means recruits jumping ship. The recent coach hires of LK speaks volumes for those aiming for the NFL. The hirings are incredibly timely and not lost on wavering recruits. We may even see decommits from FSU and Miami coming to the UT.

Sick or not, I think UM has done more to damage his rep than anything anyone else could have done. But if truly sick as claimed he should step down. Not that I want him to. I want him there so Lane teams kick him in the groin by stomping his Gators. Of course the excuse may be that he had a migraine and couldn't game plan as well as usual. No, he had the flu. I mean he was dehydrated. Or was it distraction due to an Orange Pride tit tap?

crimsonviper writes:

in response to CadmiumOchre:

The smartest thing for Lane to do is say nothing. Slive is just waiting to hit him again. Plus silence let's this Meyer-mistake play out with the full consequences. Which I too think means recruits jumping ship. The recent coach hires of LK speaks volumes for those aiming for the NFL. The hirings are incredibly timely and not lost on wavering recruits. We may even see decommits from FSU and Miami coming to the UT.

Sick or not, I think UM has done more to damage his rep than anything anyone else could have done. But if truly sick as claimed he should step down. Not that I want him to. I want him there so Lane teams kick him in the groin by stomping his Gators. Of course the excuse may be that he had a migraine and couldn't game plan as well as usual. No, he had the flu. I mean he was dehydrated. Or was it distraction due to an Orange Pride tit tap?

You make valid points CO.
If you go back to this time last year and ask the question,One year from today who do you think will have the most stable program Meyer or Kiffin?
If you ask the same question today what would the answer be?
DC, I know you will read this at some point.Do you think this has damaged the Gator program as a whole?
ZZ, You can bite me.

CadmiumOchre (Inactive) writes:

in response to g8rgal:

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Can't speak for your rant target but one can recruit without recruiting. Hire NFL level coaches. If we pull it off, beat a mid-ranked team in a bowl game with the patch work team the Vols have, which speaks much of the coaching quality. Then kids see that their chances for the NFL are darn good if they head for the UT. As opposed to the Days of Our Lives (or is it One Life to Live) comedy, I mean drama at the UF.

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Soap
May do
For lads with fuzz
But sir, you ain't
The kid you wuz
Burma-Shave

CadmiumOchre (Inactive) writes:

in response to DC_10point0:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

The damage is done and ' ' '

You can drive
A mile a minute
But there is no
Future in it.
Burma Shave

oldvolsarge writes:

DC

How can Meyer recruit if he isn't a coach? Sounds like you are just asking for trouble from the NCAA. If he isn't a coach, he had best throw away his blackberry and leave the recruiting to the coachs. Just asking.

USNVOL writes:

in response to g8rgal:

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I'm just saying........Go away trollturd !
You better go to your lizzard site to check if your lying @ss coach has retired ,quit or changed his mind ........AGAIN !
It's a shame what the @ss whipping by Bama has done to this crybaby..........
Im just saying !

USNVOL writes:

in response to DC_10point0:

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I told you to stay off this site,now.......
GO AWAY !

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