Recruit says UT 'just trying to understand the rules'

ORLANDO, Fla. - Chaz Green has a theory as to why Tennessee's football program has drawn the ire of the NCAA.

"They're just new to the process, the NFL guys," the 6-foot-6, 290-pound offensive lineman from Tampa (Fla.) Catholic said Monday, referring to UT's coaches. "There are a lot of rules they need to catch up on that they're not sure about. That's really the main problem. They're just trying to understand the rules of college football."

The Vols have tested those rules twice since September. The NCAA is reviewing UT's possible misuse of hostesses and the Vols also self-reported a possible violation to the SEC concerning a recruiting intern, who may have met with prospects, which would be a violation of NCAA rules.

"It hasn't really affected me," Green said of the negative publicity. "I know what kind of school they are. It's something to think about and worry about, but at the same time I know that they're not really doing anything wrong."

Much of Green's opinion on UT comes from his official visit to Knoxville in October. Green had heard about UT's brash young coach, but found a far different Lane Kiffin once he arrived on campus.

"Everybody was flipping out about it, but after I went up there, Lane Kiffin, he's a good coach," said Green, who is one of 88 players selected to participate in Saturday's Under Armour All-American Game.

Green is set to visit Florida and Southern California in January. He visited Ohio State in September.

Representing: Cornerbacks Lamarcus Joyner and Cody Riggs from St. Thomas Aquinas in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., were placed on the Blur Team.

Riggs said there's plenty of pressure to uphold St. Thomas Aquinas' reputation as one of the most talent-laden high school teams in the country.

"We have a lot of guys that have gone to college football and are in these games," Riggs said. "We always want to impress those who are at St. Thomas or have been to St. Thomas. We definitely want to represent."

The Vols are recruiting several of those prospects, including Riggs and Joyner. UT has a commitment from St. Thomas kicker Michael Palardy.

Colleges: Florida has the most commitments (eight) in the game. Auburn, Alabama and Texas are tied for second with six commitments each.

UT has three commitments on the all-star game roster: offensive lineman Ja'Wuan James from North Gwinnett High in Suwanee, Ga., defensive end Corey Miller from James Byrnes High in Duncan, S.C., and linebacker Michael Taylor from Westlake High in Atlanta.

Coaches: As usual the game will have a strong NFL feel, with several former professional coaches on the sidelines.

Former Cincinnati Bengals coach Sam Wyche will serve as the Nitro coach. Former Indianapolis Colts and Baltimore Ravens coach Ted Marchibroda will serve as coach for the Blur team.

A head coach and three coordinators (offense, defense and special teams) will head up the staffs, which will also include 11 coaches, mostly from high schools.

Players: Not surprisingly, Florida, with 20 players, has the largest contingent from any state.

Texas is second with 15, followed by Georgia (13) and California (eight). Virginia, South Carolina and Alabama each have four players.

Tennessee had offensive lineman James Stone from Maplewood High. Twenty-three states are represented.

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ctownvol writes:

I'm trying to understand some rules too...Is it a violation for a coach on a leave of absence to recruit?

bcdvol#234255 writes:

Mr. Green may be right but the mafia bosses at the NCAA don't give freebies for slow learning. Especially when they don't like you anyway.

jasonsvols writes:

1st

ThurmondEppy writes:

in response to jasonsvols:

1st

fifth.

Thad123 writes:

Is the Blur team the really fast team?

VolFanNC writes:

Who knows if he is right, but UT's compliance Department is supposed to take over here. 3 mistakes (ESPN incident, Twitter, and moentioning BBrown's name on radio) were ones that shoudn't have occurred. Realistically the coach won't know every rule. That is why they have a complaince department.

TommyJack writes:

in response to ctownvol:

I'm trying to understand some rules too...Is it a violation for a coach on a leave of absence to recruit?

Would be for CLK. For Urbie, not so much.

shopsports#273141 writes:

in response to ctownvol:

I'm trying to understand some rules too...Is it a violation for a coach on a leave of absence to recruit?

That needs to be answered! Isn't there a maximum no. of coaches a school can have on staff at one time? If Urbie is out of that group then he is NOT legal to recruit. Our best bud Gators have a whole new set of rules they opened themselves up to and we owe it to ourselves to be sure they meet every restriction!

The1 writes:

in response to VolFanNC:

Who knows if he is right, but UT's compliance Department is supposed to take over here. 3 mistakes (ESPN incident, Twitter, and moentioning BBrown's name on radio) were ones that shoudn't have occurred. Realistically the coach won't know every rule. That is why they have a complaince department.

Rules are meant for guidance of the wise and obediance of fools.... Too many rules removes all judgment.

Psychovol writes:

What are the rules on calling a mulligan for resigning and then being a weenie and taking a LOA.

SEAL_9821 writes:

in response to ctownvol:

I'm trying to understand some rules too...Is it a violation for a coach on a leave of absence to recruit?

Good question...that was the first thing that come to mind when I heard he had changed his mind to a leave of absence.

shopsports#273141 writes:

"It's a unique situation," said Grant Teaff, executive director of the American Football Coaches Association, who has been in college coaching or administration for more than 50 years. Meyer "is going to have to find out about a lot of different aspects about it, (aspects) that he hasn't even thought about."

Explain please. Spout some rules. How can he recruit while on leave? Surely that cannot be legal. Sqwirm Gators.

shopsports#273141 writes:

This is an interesting part of a longer article:

2) And another thing, Mr. Meyer: Lane Kiffin really got to you, didn’t he? It was Kiffin who sucked you into an impossible expectations game which set a terrible tone and tenor for the whole season. It was Kiffin who made you (and equally gullible/dumb Florida fans) get angry at ugly wins, which are never anything to apologize for. It was Kiffin who made you angry and testy. It was Kiffin who got under your skin. It was Kiffin who made you feel that going 12-1 wasn’t acceptable. It was Kiffin who baited you into sinking to a lower common denominator (much as Rick Neuheisel sucked Pete Carroll into doing the same thing). And it was Kiffin who – while having accomplished precious little at this point in his coaching career – made you act and feel like the smaller guy in the room, even when you had the big-boy results to show for your labors. As you take time off, Urban (well, do we really know that, actually?), reflect on this point with your brother coaches: While football necessarily features physical strength and demands virile athletic prowess, the truest form of strength is most deeply and spiritually found in acts of gentle restraint, quiet dignity, and other deeds which reflect an ability to walk away from unwise or unnecessary fights that imperil both your values and your health.

By Pete Fiutak
CollegeFootballNews.com
Posted Dec 27, 2009

http://cfn.scout.com/2/932403.html

HAHAHAHAHAHA....and we don't even have to say it....HE DID

vol75 writes:

19th. Stop the insanity.....

Ayres_Hall writes:

Kiffin also got to him when he said soemthing like: Florida has the better players but Alabama has the better coaches.

sidwalkvol writes:

in response to shopsports#273141:

This is an interesting part of a longer article:

2) And another thing, Mr. Meyer: Lane Kiffin really got to you, didn’t he? It was Kiffin who sucked you into an impossible expectations game which set a terrible tone and tenor for the whole season. It was Kiffin who made you (and equally gullible/dumb Florida fans) get angry at ugly wins, which are never anything to apologize for. It was Kiffin who made you angry and testy. It was Kiffin who got under your skin. It was Kiffin who made you feel that going 12-1 wasn’t acceptable. It was Kiffin who baited you into sinking to a lower common denominator (much as Rick Neuheisel sucked Pete Carroll into doing the same thing). And it was Kiffin who – while having accomplished precious little at this point in his coaching career – made you act and feel like the smaller guy in the room, even when you had the big-boy results to show for your labors. As you take time off, Urban (well, do we really know that, actually?), reflect on this point with your brother coaches: While football necessarily features physical strength and demands virile athletic prowess, the truest form of strength is most deeply and spiritually found in acts of gentle restraint, quiet dignity, and other deeds which reflect an ability to walk away from unwise or unnecessary fights that imperil both your values and your health.

By Pete Fiutak
CollegeFootballNews.com
Posted Dec 27, 2009

http://cfn.scout.com/2/932403.html

HAHAHAHAHAHA....and we don't even have to say it....HE DID

Wow! And I do mean, wow! The line about gullible FL fans makes me think mostly of zz or beersheba or whatever-the-he** his name is now. They think they are abusing us, when the reality is that they are being abused and don't know it.

I think the funny thing about this is Forde and this guy suggesting that Coach UM has gone 'round the bend and that the love-fest between the press and all-things-gay-tor is over.

Can he recruit? Is he still a coach if he is on LOA? Is he MIA? Is he NUTS?

The vultures are circling and I, for one, could not be happier to see them.

tennezz writes:

in response to Thad123:

Is the Blur team the really fast team?

Yes and the Nitro team is the explosive team!

ccVOLSdhf writes:

As stated in the recruiting intern flap. Only the 8 position coach's can do recruiting. So only if there are special rules in place for coach's on a LOA can urban do any recruiting. Possibly since they don't have a DC then they would be still at 8 coach's recruiting. If lil ole urbi can't have contact with these recruits. UF will be in big TROUBLE

Vol1967 writes:

I am sure that if it is deemed a violation for Meyer to recruit while on his LOA then it will no longer be called a LOA. Heck, he can take a vacation in his office for all I care, but I believe there are a few lawyers in the state of Florida also.

VOLume27 writes:

in response to DC_10point0:

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Fine. So UM can recruit. So UF gets another top 5 class. OK.

So what's your point? Troll. . . .

volfan53 writes:

in response to DC_10point0:

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So I guess the kids he is going to recruit are really stupid. If his LOA starts after NSD then it won't be very long because spring is just around the corner. The smart kids will realize that the LOA is a smoke screen for this year to try and get kids to come to UF. Urban Crier has had enough and is ready to move on. The kids will see through the tactics and if they don't, well, let's just hope the NCAA doesn't check to see how these kids are really passing their classes because they are just plain stupid, just like you. Now go away. Your presence here is no longer needed.

sitinhere writes:

in response to ctownvol:

I'm trying to understand some rules too...Is it a violation for a coach on a leave of absence to recruit?

Are you kidding, Slive is taking over recruiting for FU for Urbie Cryer

GerryOP writes:

in response to VOLume27:

Fine. So UM can recruit. So UF gets another top 5 class. OK.

So what's your point? Troll. . . .

His point is that UF/Foley/Meyer is about to commit the all-time sleazy/slimeball move of the decade. Lil' Urbie is going to hang around G'ville until after NSD, then he is going to disappear never again to be seen on the UF campus. Will the recruits and their parents see through this smokescreen? Naaawww, never!

Hey trolls, enjoy the Lame Duck Bowl!

Southland writes:

Kiffin is no more than a pesky fly to Meyers. Be real. Kiffin may end up being the greatest football coach ever. But he has not frightened anyone except Hamilton and us that are afraid we are going on probation.

Slystone writes:

in response to shopsports#273141:

This is an interesting part of a longer article:

2) And another thing, Mr. Meyer: Lane Kiffin really got to you, didn’t he? It was Kiffin who sucked you into an impossible expectations game which set a terrible tone and tenor for the whole season. It was Kiffin who made you (and equally gullible/dumb Florida fans) get angry at ugly wins, which are never anything to apologize for. It was Kiffin who made you angry and testy. It was Kiffin who got under your skin. It was Kiffin who made you feel that going 12-1 wasn’t acceptable. It was Kiffin who baited you into sinking to a lower common denominator (much as Rick Neuheisel sucked Pete Carroll into doing the same thing). And it was Kiffin who – while having accomplished precious little at this point in his coaching career – made you act and feel like the smaller guy in the room, even when you had the big-boy results to show for your labors. As you take time off, Urban (well, do we really know that, actually?), reflect on this point with your brother coaches: While football necessarily features physical strength and demands virile athletic prowess, the truest form of strength is most deeply and spiritually found in acts of gentle restraint, quiet dignity, and other deeds which reflect an ability to walk away from unwise or unnecessary fights that imperil both your values and your health.

By Pete Fiutak
CollegeFootballNews.com
Posted Dec 27, 2009

http://cfn.scout.com/2/932403.html

HAHAHAHAHAHA....and we don't even have to say it....HE DID

Wow... that was some article. Thanks for posting the link Shoppy and have a great New Year.

ETSU_Vol writes:

in response to DC_10point0:

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thats interesting, i didnt know you controlled urban meyers mind!?! according to espn adazio (sp?) will take over immediately after the sugar bowl. but im glad we have the real master mind to tell us the truth....also just because he is an employee of florida doesnt mean he can recruit, if that was the case UT wouldnt be having any issues over the "hostess gate" you like to run your flap about. so your contradiciting yourself on a couple of points there buddy

dvols writes:

thanks chaz, love it when 17 year old kids educate "reporters" ......and for what its worth, i could care less where you go to school at!!! ur just a confused lil boy!

RCVOLIN10 writes:

They know the rules. they need to stop the dog and pony show and get out and recruit. Grow up and be men.

Orangeblood13 writes:

that blur team looks pretty good

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Orangeblood13 writes:

in response to VolnotHAMILTONfan:

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seriously?

Monte don't recruit?

Your post makes no sense

volstuckinMI writes:

Hello Vols, just joined the site, hope I can help support the Great Vol Nation with some good insight.

VOL03_NC writes:

in response to VolnotHAMILTONfan:

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You are wrong. Monte has recruited...ect

GR82BAVOL writes:

WOW! Fiutak just kept swinging the proverbial hammer, striking the nail's head squarely every time.

The bottom line is that HE brought all of this on himself. I just don't see that as a move made by a confident, straight-thinking man; all the more reason for him to have taken the time to work it out internally until he was 110% sure. The timing of it all is quite curious too, particularly when one considers recruiting. Absolutely insane if you ask me. If I were a Florida fan, I'd want him out...I'd want him to get well, but I'd want him out because he is simply not thinking straight...seriously.

69grad writes:

in response to FreeTDTN:

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Write about COACH Kiffin you azzhole. Leave the man's wife out of it and tell mama you need your diaper changed even if you are old enough to vote.

Mule_Days_King writes:

in response to DC_10point0:

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Smokescreen by Captain Half Truth.

Mule_Days_King writes:

in response to VolnotHAMILTONfan:

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How about you think before you post something, douche bag?

steamboatticket#484773 writes:

in response to DukeDeLuca:

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I disagree. If anything, Chaz Green's remarks reflect a generous outlook towards other people, specifically the coaches at both Florida and Tennessee. There is nothing dumb about that. He appears to be an intelligent and well spoken young man, the kind I want at Tennessee.

steamboatticket#484773 writes:

in response to Southland:

Kiffin is no more than a pesky fly to Meyers. Be real. Kiffin may end up being the greatest football coach ever. But he has not frightened anyone except Hamilton and us that are afraid we are going on probation.

If you looked at a photo of the coaches' handshake after the Tennessee/Alabama game, then you could not honestly make the above statements. And I suspect that you did see that picture. You say that you are afraid; perhaps it's just your nature to be afraid and to make false statements. Coach Kiffin radiates confidence and obviously works very hard to run a good, clean program. O.K., let's be real. Poor Coach Meyer can hardly think of Saban and Kiffin without being carried off to a hospital.

steamboatticket#484773 writes:

in response to volstuckinMI:

Hello Vols, just joined the site, hope I can help support the Great Vol Nation with some good insight.

That would be welcome. As you see, many here are somewhat confused.

steamboatticket#484773 writes:

Southland claims to be a Vol fan. But I do not recall reading a post by Southland which was positive about Tennessee. With him, it's all bad. So I can't help thinking that he is either a troll or one extremely negative individual.

Down_The_Field writes:

in response to GerryOP:

His point is that UF/Foley/Meyer is about to commit the all-time sleazy/slimeball move of the decade. Lil' Urbie is going to hang around G'ville until after NSD, then he is going to disappear never again to be seen on the UF campus. Will the recruits and their parents see through this smokescreen? Naaawww, never!

Hey trolls, enjoy the Lame Duck Bowl!

excellent point. you've nailed this one.

why else does a guy back off his statement? it's because you have a top 5 class and flar-duh donors who don't want the house of cards to cave so quickly. urb was leveraged into recanting the statement with fuzzy language about "leave of absence."

Pedro_theVOL writes:

in response to DC_10point0:

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DC ....you will be lucky to stay in the top 5 this year... 10 of your 20 recruits either re-opened their recruiting... or where de committing from UF after urbie said he was leaving... this smoke screen called a "leave of absence" will slow down the de commits. But it will ultimately change your recruiting class and ours... and i bet u know witch one for the better.

Ringside writes:

Green would be an awesome pick up.

steamboatticket#484773 writes:

in response to A_VOICE_RETURNS:

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So why don't you and the other trolling brainiacs go be negative, I mean "smart" somewhere else? Honestly, you do not belong here and are not wanted here. Surely there is a board on the net where you might fit in with the other folks.

steamboatticket#484773 writes:

in response to Ringside:

Green would be an awesome pick up.

True. We really need a few more commitments from O-linemen with the ability to contribute in games next season. I think Green could do that.

MoralVictory writes:

are all Tennessee fans retards? Lane Kiffin couldn't spell integrity if you spotted him the first 6 letters. He is not even in the same class as Urban

Mule_Days_King writes:

in response to MoralVictory:

are all Tennessee fans retards? Lane Kiffin couldn't spell integrity if you spotted him the first 6 letters. He is not even in the same class as Urban

You are so right. I mean Urban would never use his mental incapacity as an excuse to take an extended vacation only after securing his recruiting class. Or Urban would NEVER say that his faith, family and health mean everything to him when in fact they don't as shown by the lame a** way he conducted himself this weekend.
Not Urban. Ever. Classy guy you got there.

Mule_Days_King writes:

in response to A_VOICE_RETURNS:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Thought your name was A_Douche_Returns and thought I was on a cosmetic blog.

steamboatticket#484773 writes:

in response to MoralVictory:

are all Tennessee fans retards? Lane Kiffin couldn't spell integrity if you spotted him the first 6 letters. He is not even in the same class as Urban

Nobody is in the same class as Urban. How many ncaa coaches lose a football game and get carted off to the hospital a few hours later? One. How many ncaa coaches quote their daughters(I have my daddy back.) as a sign from God to justify a resignation? One. How many ncaa coaches defy that so-called "sign from God" and take back their resignation the very next day? One. I could go on and on. How many coaches try to recrute a quarterback(Jevan Snead) by telling him that the other quarterback(Tim Tebow) is being recruited as a linebacker? One. When it comes to integrity, Urban Meyer is in a class by himself.

chuckfromwoodbury writes:

southland and volnotkiffinfan, you can now break the suction between your lips and fat phils butt. as i was told for the previous 16 years, he's gone now get over it.

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