UT reporting Kiffin comment on Brown as secondary violation

Tennessee is reporting another secondary violation involving its football program.

During a radio interview Friday morning, UT coach Lane Kiffin ran afoul of an NCAA rule when he mentioned recruit Bryce Brown by name and called the highly recruited running back “a great player.”

Kiffin’s comment came in response to a question — during which it was noted that coaches can’t talk about individual players — about the recent trend of players waiting to sign a letter of intent until well after National Signing Day.

“Once very talented players do things, it becomes the cool thing to do and so the next guy does it and more and more guys do it,” Kiffin said on The Sports Page. “I think what’s going to happen is you’re going to see ... great players like Bryce Brown are doing it now. So now it’s going to be more next year and then more and more.”

NCAA rules prohibit a coach from commenting “generally about (a) student-athlete’s ability” before the prospect has signed a letter of intent. It is unclear whether the violation occurred because Kiffin mentioned Brown by name or because he referred to Brown as a “great player.”

Either way, coaches are not permitted under NCAA rules to speak about specific unsigned prospects other than to confirm that they are recruiting the athlete.

UT’s compliance office reviewed Kiffin’s comments Friday afternoon, and it will submit a report to the SEC and NCAA, UT spokeswoman Tiffany Carpenter said.

The violation does not affect the eligibility of Brown, Rivals.com’s top-rated recruit in the Class of 2009, nor should it affect UT’s ability to continue recruiting Brown.

Brown, a running back from Wichita, Kan., is already in Knoxville on an official visit. Despite being committed to Miami, Brown has not signed a letter of intent and is expected to take one more official visit.

Friday’s violation will be the third self-report involving the football program during Kiffin’s 10-week tenure. All three are considered secondary and likely will not result in any punishment from either the SEC or NCAA.

UT submitted two secondary violations last month, both for impermissible game day simulations while hosting recruits on official visits. Those two issues have already been resolved, and UT issued letters of admonishment to the coaches involved and provided further training on rules regarding official visits.

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ctownvol writes:

Oops

PoochPuntOn3rdDown writes:

Oops....

TxFatBoy writes:

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Red_October writes:

Good Grief!!

ctownvol writes:

in response to PoochPuntOn3rdDown:

Oops....

Ha! I beat you to it. Nanny nanny boo boo!

TommyJack writes:

Well let's just forfeit the season.

VOLnNC writes:

Oops!

ctownvol writes:

in response to TommyJack:

Well let's just forfeit the season.

I thought we did that last season.

thevoice writes:

Sure hope the NCAA doesn't have a cumulative rule. LOL

Waldorf writes:

What? This is ridiculous.

In other news, Coach Kiffin just walked on the same side of the street as a UT player. UT self reported the violation. Drew Edwards made sure to report it as soon as possible.

Triton1 writes:

It's a matter of time.

lomas98 writes:

I know these are minor things and the NCAA rules are comical, but this is getting a little ridiculous. If this staff is so careless on the little things, I hope they know what they are doing to keep us out of big trouble. I will take five 8 win seasons in a row with no probation vs. 1 national championship and a mass loss of scholarships in 5 years.

HartfordCTvol writes:

Sportingnews has this guy leaning towards LSU. Others have Oregon as the front runner. I hope we can steal him out from under both (especially LSU).

Volumni writes:

We will definitely lead the league in something!

Are we sure that wasn't Jimmy Hyams throwing his voice?

ctownvol writes:

Big Brother really is watching.

Tvolboy writes:

What in the world is the purpose of that rule? I mean good grief.

Txvol57 writes:

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rockytop4ever writes:

Lane I think its time to get your s**t together.

tmartin writes:

I thought he passed some recruiting test?????????????? Now, he committs violations on a daily basis and falsely accues other coaches of violations?

Volfan1 writes:

Cut him some slack. He's not adjusted to the NCAAgestapo and losing his freedom of speech, yet.
He's yet to buy a player, i.e., Albert Means; use players signed by an agent, i.e., Antonio Langham; lie about leaving a job & taking another job, i.e., Nick Satan; or be inelgible for the SEC title due to numerous violations, i.e., 1984-85 & 1990 at Florida.
When those things happen to UT, THEN I'll apologize.

cdtnladyvols931#663910 writes:

If Lane Kiffin goes to the bathroom and they are a UT recruit in there. Are they going to report it?

HA HA HA! This is ridiculous!!!

tngl4ut writes:

Who has been screwing up more lately Kiffin or Obama?

lomas98 writes:

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It is stupid, but these are the rules. He must know the rules. I don't care how petty they are. If he doesn't know the minor stuff, does he know the major stuff.

gcscvol writes:

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Much too much..Floraturd has a web site ...go there ...stay there... make us all happy.

annemarie writes:

Lane - from now on, when you are going to make any type of public comment, carry the rule book with you, and when you are asked a question, tell whomever to wait while you look it up to see if it is a violation of any rules.

Some of these rules are beyond ridiculous!

HtownVol writes:

These cant really be violations. They must make up violations after anything Kiffin does. " Hey I dont like that, Lets make it a violation" This is taking it too far. Rivals should get punished. They ranked him the # 1 recruit. Thats a violation also, right?

GreerVol22 writes:

One tries to be objective but this rule is about as dumb as Forrest Gump.

volongulf writes:

in response to lomas98:

I know these are minor things and the NCAA rules are comical, but this is getting a little ridiculous. If this staff is so careless on the little things, I hope they know what they are doing to keep us out of big trouble. I will take five 8 win seasons in a row with no probation vs. 1 national championship and a mass loss of scholarships in 5 years.

I agree. Swagger is one thing. Owing appologies & earning reprimands day in day out is another.

Did the Pac-10 operate to a different standard?

Hudro writes:

If Lane speaks in the forest and there is no there to hear is it still a violation!!!!!

1dervol writes:

Has Mr Kiffin not read the rule book yet? He is showing himself as a very unintelligent person! Doh!

jimr07 writes:

Like the NCAA, the rule is stupid.

pdhuff#552644 writes:

in response to TommyJack:

Well let's just forfeit the season.

Agreed.

I would expect any coach with 3 wks on the job to know the 8,349 page NCAA manual.

Especially one who is standing the the wasteland of a BIG project he is heading up.

Wyoming anyone?

Triton1 writes:

in response to lomas98:

It is stupid, but these are the rules. He must know the rules. I don't care how petty they are. If he doesn't know the minor stuff, does he know the major stuff.

I agree, he scares the shat out of me.

jimr07 writes:

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i assume you think this comment is funny.

GreerVol22 writes:

in response to IdentityTheftVictim09:

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KNS a tabloid, not a newspaper. Remember what I said earlier bout this bunch of writers?....in the abscence of substance...they invent perception.

Waldorf writes:

Maybe he's read the rule book, figured out what is and isn't a secondary violation, is willing to stretch the rules, and now Mr. Brown gets to hear all the time all over the country that Coach Kiffin called him a great player. Not a bad little recruiting tool.

If you've been around him.....it's worth a thought.

GreerVol22 writes:

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gator, if you touch yourself everytime Tebow is mentioned, its your business.

Waldorf writes:

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That's not funny to use cancer-boy. Ever though maybe other people's lives have been affected by heart-attacks the way you lie and say yours has by cancer?

yabadabadoo1026 writes:

those 25 minutes at the airport waiting for driver could have used studying the rules primer rather than just standing around fuming and letting urban and saban get ahead by 25 minutes

gcscvol writes:

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Couldn't agree more. There is nothing else to report that could possibly hurt us..at least if there is KNS hasn't heard about it yet

GreerVol22 writes:

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the difference is someone with an agenda has decided to keep score.

lomas98 writes:

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Never mentioned Marlon Brown by name. All he said he was going to Memphis and everyone assumed it was brown. Orgeron said he was going to Memphis at his press conference and his first contact was Greg King.

StroVol writes:

in response to Hudro:

If Lane speaks in the forest and there is no there to hear is it still a violation!!!!!

That was funny as he((!

dehvols writes:

in response to tngl4ut:

Who has been screwing up more lately Kiffin or Obama?

neither...who really cares about this stupid violation? I believe Kiffin has made some questionable moves, but I dont think this one of them. And his questionable moves have been generating excitement, and the more important thing is what does on in the weight room, then on the field.

As for Obama, how good can he really do a month after being president with the economy in shambles? Thank you Mr. Bush

1manningfan writes:

This must be the dumbest violation and rule I have ever heard. Come on giving someone a comment, and BAM you get slapped with a violation. NCAA has some F-ED rules.

RockyTop1_old writes:

in response to tngl4ut:

Who has been screwing up more lately Kiffin or Obama?

Stay on topic...please!

gcscvol writes:

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and while they're at it maybe they could see if lil gatorzz's @#$% have been located

gvegasvol writes:

in response to TommyJack:

Well let's just forfeit the season.

Won't have to forfeit the season, but if this idiot doen't settle down the ncaa is going to help us forfeit the post season for a few years.

KENVOL writes:

This is getting old. Kiffin knows the rules. I think this time his mouth was faster than his brain. I can see this happening in an interview. That said this is getting old.

invisiblekid writes:

The folder of meaningless reprimands will be getting mighty thick at this rate.

Self-reporting secondary violations had little effect in the Fulmer era, no reason to think it will lead to ruin under Kiffin either.

According to Mike Griffith:

"What you need to know is self-reporting secondary violations is nothing new at UT. In fact, the Vols became well-known for the practice during Phillip Fulmer's tenure, easily leading the SEC in self-reported secondary violations, an SEC office insider once informed me."

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