Report: Carroll says Orgeron 'not involved' in process of coordinator hunt

Tennessee assistant coach Ed Orgeron was a candidate to be Southern California’s next defensive coordinator but is “not involved” in the process according to Trojans coach Pete Carroll, according to a report posted on a Web site that covers the Trojans.

USCFootball.com speculated that Orgeron may have even been offered the position, vacated by Nick Holt, who accepted the defensive coordinator position at Washington. That, however, is unclear. The Rivals' Web site was not ready to eliminate Orgeron as a candidate despite Carroll’s claim.

Whatever the case, Orgeron appears committed to UT.

The News Sentinel learned today that LSU made another strong run at Orgeron on Jan. 1, a day before he was formally introduced at UT.

A source close to Orgeron told the News Sentinel that LSU offered him substantially more money than UT did.

Tennessee is expected to pay Orgeron about $600,000 annually. The source said Orgeron turned down the LSU offer saying he was already committed to UT.

Orgeron, who was hired as UT’s recruiting coordinator and defensive line coach, gained national acclaim as a recruiter while at USC.

USC defensive backs coach Rocky Seto and linebackers coach Ken Norton Jr. are thought to be candidates to be USC’s next defensive coordinator.

“There’s three real ways it can go,” USC coach Pete Carroll told the Orange County Register.

Seto and Norton are two possibilities. An outside hire, such as Orgeron, former Syracuse coach Greg Robinson or former Washington defensive coordinator Ed Donatell, is thought to be the third.

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VOLHbomb writes:

First

bcbobcat82 writes:

I cant believe this phooey has already started.....However, thats the price you pay with a ROCKSTAR staff.... PLEASE STAY EDDIE!!!

adamsck#591720 writes:

This is not journalism.

Linked how? By who?

Why is it unclear if Orgeron would accept it?

If you are going to run the story you need to have more info Dave.

You gave your "source" for the LSU part of the article so where did the rest of it come from.

SemperVol writes:

"...Sentinel LEARNED (not earned today that LSU..."

Just trying to help, Cap'n Hook.

Bloodrunzorange writes:

If CLK wants Coach O, he will stay. If he goes, so be it! CLK and CMK will run the show. Coach O and the Cheif would not get along anyway. Don't sweat it. Support CLK and Go Vols!

spencer1989#206886 writes:

As per reported above...The News Sentinel "earned" today... What did they "earn"? I know this is a typo and I had to chuckle

bobbarbilly writes:

This is the test of a non-alum staff that we knew would come but we did not know that it would arrive so soon. Permanant orange or just food coloring...?

RoyaltyVol writes:

This makes no sense. Don't we have a signed contract already? And why would he just now be a candidate for the USC DC job? This article lacks details!

KCHS63 writes:

This is what you get when the Sports Editor is an LSU homer. Why to go, John. You sure got back at UT for LSU....NOT.

JBruce writes:

If USC wants him to take the coordinator job, you can kiss him goodbye.

Southern Cal DC job will pay over $1million and he will get his pick of California's best players.

Tennessee can't even come close to what Southern Cal has to offer.

newtonrail writes:

This is unbelievable the Pay to Play on this staff. Most of the Pilot Oil money will be going to Billy Boy's run for governor. Got some more deep pockets you didn't alienate Mikey?

givehim6 writes:

If Coach O took a job [UT] then left just 3 days ofter looks like there would be some kind of laws broken. I think KNS working for another school trying to sway our recruits.

HtownVol writes:

How could he get a job and then someone else wants him? I thinks this is just a rumor. And a bad 1. Im sure by now he is under contract. I doubt he will leave. And come on its USC. People question why we hirede him as a D-Line coach..Why would USC want him as a D-Coordinator. Think about it folks, he is not leaving.

HtownVol writes:

hired, sorry

BigMikeUT writes:

in response to JBruce:

If USC wants him to take the coordinator job, you can kiss him goodbye.

Southern Cal DC job will pay over $1million and he will get his pick of California's best players.

Tennessee can't even come close to what Southern Cal has to offer.

I agree with you to some extent, but with a mega-recruiter like Coach O, his credibility with recruits would take a huge hit if he bails on us after a week. That being said, I'd be surprised to see him around for more than a couple years max.

littleorange writes:

Hooker this is not journalism.......you have been around John Adams to long......you are losing credibility!

ballewville6 writes:

i believe that spurrior or some other teams fan are starting this stuff just to try and hurt ut in recruiting ed will stay at ut atleast this year just listen and hope for the good recruiting news

jobrando#216494 writes:

Last 2 headlines.. Kiffin's Best Man and Now Orgeron to California. These writers have to much free time to invent phooey. Not one article on internet to support this.

indianacurly writes:

old news (3 days old - nice scoop kns) ... pete wouldn't do it and neither would O. would ruin credibility of both.

johnlg00 writes:

This would be a terrible blow if he goes after committing to us, holding his press conference, and talking to all those recruits! Hard to say if I would feel worse if he goes to USC over LSU. I agree that on one level he might not get along with Chavis at LSU--their personalities seem to be the opposite of each other. However, with Coach O on the staff, Chavis wouldn't feel as much pressure to recruit. The USC offer seems more threatening as to the money and DC position, if in fact there is anything to that story. I would hope Coach O would have enough concern for his future credibility to turn down ANY outside offers for this year at least--I never thought we would keep him forever.

jobrando#216494 writes:

KNS is trying to burst a growing bubble. Is there another website that just talks VOL football?

JBruce writes:

From USC rivals site:

Pete Carroll could look to his past for new DC

Ed Orgeron

The Trojans' former recruiting coordinator left USC after the 2004 undefeated, national championship season to become the head coach at Ole Miss.

After going 10-25 with the Rebels, Orgeron was fired and took a position as the defensive line coach with the New Orleans Saints.

After former USC assistant Lane Kiffin took the head-coaching position at Tennessee on Dec. 1, he hired Orgeron as the Volunteers' defensive line coach and recruiting coordinator.

Still, Orgeron would almost certainly be interested in returning to the Trojans as their new defensive coordinator.

A tireless recruiter who has helped groom stud linemen like Shaun Cody, Mike Patterson, Warren Sapp and Cortez Kennedy, Orgeron would seamlessly slide into Holt's role.

Orgeron is comfortable coaching in the bright lights that shine on the Trojan football program, and he's very close to Carroll.

While Orgeron was criticized for his work at Ole Miss, he left the fridge stocked for Houston Nutt, who led Ole Miss to a Cotton Bowl over Texas Tech.

The_View_From_Memphis writes:

GO Coach O Go!! I know your preference is to be a D-Coordinator as opposed to only a D-line coach. And my preference is for the Vols to land top notch talent without landing on NCAA probation after you're gone. So again.... Go Coach O Go!!

utchris writes:

in response to JBruce:

If USC wants him to take the coordinator job, you can kiss him goodbye.

Southern Cal DC job will pay over $1million and he will get his pick of California's best players.

Tennessee can't even come close to what Southern Cal has to offer.

The last guy made around $500,000.

TNfaninMS writes:

go back to hell BAMMER. You are not welcome on this site. How did it feel to get trounced by something called a UTE?

volfan_stuck_in_jersey writes:

Here is an even better article well a link that was attached to the article on a USC blog site.

http://wearesc.com/news/story.php?art...

Sounds like they are going to be hiring from with in.

JBruce writes:

If they are getting this from rivals, then it is just speculation. No interest has been expressed from either side.

If Carroll offers him the job, I don't like our chances.

nikesportsfan writes:

Pete Carroll will promote from within his staff like he did with the offensive coordinator job. My guess would be Rocky Seto their secondary coach. If he isn't promoted to D coordinator he will be somewhere else. I think there is very little worry about Coach O leaving.

BigMikeUT writes:

in response to TNfaninMS:

go back to hell BAMMER. You are not welcome on this site. How did it feel to get trounced by something called a UTE?

As much as I hate Bama...and trust me, its a lot. And as much joy as I took from watching them get shown up on a national stage, I don't think we have any room to talk this year. Let's not act like Vandy fans.

TNfaninMS writes:

Im just telling him how it is. He needs to stay off of a TENNESSEE site and go play with his little bammer for a while

cjraney writes:

ESPN is reporting USC's DB coach is a leading candidate.

If EO goes, that's understandable as DC is a promotion from position coach, regardless of schools involved. However, if utchris above is right that the last DC made $500k, the money may be better here at UT. I know that $600k will get you further in TN than in southern California.

BigMikeUT writes:

Did you see in the article where Washington is paying $2.1 mil for USC's defensive coordinator? Makes Monte Kiffin at $1 mil (or whatever the exact number was) look like a steal doesn't it?

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to bama987:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Stop reading his worthless comments and he will go. He does not even live in Alabama.

Waldorf writes:

Shoddy journalism at its finest.

HotlantaVol writes:

Holt left USC to be the DC for Sarkasian at Washington. Apparently, Pete Carroll is such a micro-manager that he wouldn't even let Holt call the defensive plays during the game. CEO has to know this about CPC since he worked for him before at USC. Hopefully, he will stay at UT and be the DC-in-waiting. Monte retires before JoePa does. Guaranteed.

JBruce writes:

Nick Holt who will join Sarkisian, is expected to make upwards of $2.1 million!

CoverOrange writes:

Some of you guys have complained endlessly when KNS gets scooped, now you complain when they do manage to make a report first.

Do you think everything you find on all those other (even ESPN) internet sites have all been vetted before being posted?

soddydaisy777 writes:

Hook you need to shut up! Coach O is not going to SC. Your trying your best to hurt recruiting. So leave K town. This is a shame that KNS is trying to hurt UT cause their man is not there no longer.

invisiblekid writes:

in response to JBruce:

If USC wants him to take the coordinator job, you can kiss him goodbye.

Southern Cal DC job will pay over $1million and he will get his pick of California's best players.

Tennessee can't even come close to what Southern Cal has to offer.

Cold, hard dose of reality right there.

wagee12 writes:

Orgeron has twins that are 12 years old. Why in the world would he want to take those children back to Los Angeles. He is already associate head coach, recruiting coordinator and defensive line coach at UT. I would suspect he is also defensive coordinator in waiting for when Monte retires in two or three years. But thanks KNS for running this so that other recruiters can use it against us as we try to mount a closing kick in recruiting this year. Good lord!!

utmdm writes:

in response to volfan_stuck_in_jersey:

Here is an even better article well a link that was attached to the article on a USC blog site.

http://wearesc.com/news/story.php?art...

Sounds like they are going to be hiring from with in.

Sounds like the roar should tone down about what we are paying Monte also:

"Upon further review, the move seems squarely based on the amount of money Holt is set to earn as an assistant under head coach Steve Sarkisian. Holt, is expected to make upwards of $2.1 million, will automatically become the highest paid assistant in UW history."

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to cjraney:

ESPN is reporting USC's DB coach is a leading candidate.

If EO goes, that's understandable as DC is a promotion from position coach, regardless of schools involved. However, if utchris above is right that the last DC made $500k, the money may be better here at UT. I know that $600k will get you further in TN than in southern California.

If he got the job over Norton then we would just swap Orgeron for Norton. Not a bad swap. I think Norton is expecting the USC job and Carrol wants it in the current family.

bls8617#370509 writes:

This is THE stupidest article I have ever read on this site (and I've read some dumb ones). I know the news has been slow the last couple of days, but wow I never thought they would resort to making up half-truths. Plus the bulk of the article was about him being offered more money at LSU not the supposed "link" to the USC job. What a joke, this sounds like something you would read in a middle school class paper.

kyvol98 writes:

in response to HtownVol:

hired, sorry

Thanks for the correction. You "learned" my respect for that!

HotlantaVol writes:

in response to JBruce:

Nick Holt who will join Sarkisian, is expected to make upwards of $2.1 million!

$2.1 million over 3 years - that's $700,000 a year (on average).

VolsRoadRash98 writes:

in response to jobrando#216494:

KNS is trying to burst a growing bubble. Is there another website that just talks VOL football?

I agree. Let me know if you find one. I mainly visit GVX because I get some insight from other posters.

I'm not a big fan of irresponsible "articles" like this at all.

There most recent articles have been either unsubstantiated speculation or a rehash of the UT press conferences.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to volfan_stuck_in_jersey:

Here is an even better article well a link that was attached to the article on a USC blog site.

http://wearesc.com/news/story.php?art...

Sounds like they are going to be hiring from with in.

This guy seems to be a West Coast counterpart to Chris Low. At the top of the page was the note "An ESPN affiliate". If so, he may know with reasonable certainty that USC will promote from within. Besides, I can't see Pete Carroll doing that to CLK. From what I have read, Pete was supportive of CLK taking the UT job. He would have to know that hiring CEO away would be a body blow to CLK.

cobbwebb writes:

if sc does come after orgeron, tenn should pay up, if kiffin really wants orgeron! the reason being, tenn could prove sc isnt as big as everyone thinks they are, whats another 400,000 to the deep pocket boosters? plus it sends a message, that tenn is serious about the rebuilding efforts! make a statement hamilton, do not let sc take orgeron! let the bashing begin, IM A MAN, I CAN TAKE IT, IM 30 YRS OLD, IM A MAN!

lilvolcoach writes:

I believe this staff isn't going anywhere. They want to show everyone that they can be successful in the Southeast as well as out west. Our staff seems pretty confident in CLK and want him to succeed very much. With that being said go get'em Coaches and bring him home to Knoxville. GO VOLS!

allntl1#565211 writes:

Cal schools are broke and stink at football. If he wants to go to a lesser conference and work for a school in a dump like LA then go.
I lived in LA and USC stinks.

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