Hooker: Where do Vols go from here to sign QB for 2010?

Kingsburg (Calif.) High School quarterback Tyler Bray throws a first-quarter pass as Taft’s
Blake Emberson closes in on Nov. 26,2008.

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Kingsburg (Calif.) High School quarterback Tyler Bray throws a first-quarter pass as Taft’s Blake Emberson closes in on Nov. 26,2008.

HOOVER, Ala. - And now it's time for Plan B. Or C. Perhaps D. Maybe even E, but we could always end up back at A. Make sense? Didn't think so.

With so many moving parts, Tennessee's recruitment of its quarterback of the future is more complicated than E=mc2. That being stated; here are some possible paths.

Plan B: UT goes after what most would consider a second-tier quarterback.

Tyler Bray of Kingsburg (Calif.) High School is a great example. The 6-foot-6, 190-pounder is committed to San Diego State but would be a great fit for UT's soon-to-be gaping hole behind center.

The downside of taking that sort of quarterback for 2010 is that it could undermine UT's chances of landing a bigger name for the 2011 signing class.

Not so, said Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin.

"If we took a guy who wasn't ranked very high, which would be the guys left, I don't think that would affect a guy for next year," said Kiffin, who can't comment specifically on prospects as per NCAA rules. "Everyone realizes that you usually have to take one every year so that's not going to affect you.

"It usually affects you when you take the No. 1 player in the country at quarterback; you usually don't go get a great one the next year."

The exception is Southern California, where Kiffin learned his recruiting wares. USC secured top quarterback Matt Barkley last year and pulled coveted quarterback Jesse Scroggins from Lakewood (Calif.) High from the Vols this week.

"When you're rolling like they are," Kiffin said, "they can kind of get anyone at this point."

Plan C: The Vols keep knocking on the same ole doors.

Is Scroggins so sure he'll play at USC? Would Barry Brunetti of Memphis rather play closer to home for the Vols than travel all the way to West Virginia? How sure is Chase Rettig from Sierra Madre, Calif., about his commitment to Boston College?

"You know us," Kiffin said. "We're not going to stop recruiting people just because they committed somewhere."

Kiffin, however, admits that pulling off a quarterback switch is challenging.

"It is a little bit more difficult with quarterbacks," Kiffin said. "You can still turn them sometimes, as they have in the past. (But) they start recruiting so much for the school (they committed to). They become part of the school. It's almost like they become an assistant coach."

Plan D: Wait for a prospect to emerge.

It happens every signing class. A decent prospect has a fantastic senior season and ends up climbing the recruiting rankings. California and Texas are fertile grounds for late bloomers.

But does Kiffin want to wait that long? If the Vols find a quarterback they like this fall, they'll still want to spend some face time with him before they extend a scholarship offer. And they'll have to hope another school hasn't already set up insurmountable inroads.

Plan E: Wait for a coach to get the axe.

This is perhaps the most frustrating of all the options because it could take the longest. If UT doesn't get its next quarterback until February, fans may line up on Gay Street Bridge.

"Unfortunately, there's always some coaching changes," Kiffin said. "Watch that as well."

Firings aside, there's always the possibility that USC coach Pete Carroll could return to the NFL.

20/20 Hindsight: Kiffin said he's not ready to begin second-guessing his staff's recruitment of quarterbacks just because the Vols haven't landed their dream guy.

"Let's see what happens in the end," Kiffin said. "Then go back. We'll definitely look at 'Did we wait too long? Were we too selective?' But the first thing I think of is, that's us. We're not going to settle until we have to move down."

Clearly, not having a high-profile quarterback committed is a setback for UT's 2010 class. Other offensive players want to know who their leader will be. And those big-name quarterbacks can act as recruiters with no limitations from the NCAA on contact.

Kiffin pointed out that his staff should be commended for the class it put together in 2009 without a quarterback to lend a hand. True, but that doesn't mean UT's coaches want to do the same for 2010.

Secondary Slams: I found it interesting that Scroggins mentioned UT's secondary violations as a concern he had with the Vols. The comment came shortly after his visit to Florida and USC.

Given Kiffin's relationship with USC, I'd bet a day's pay that Scroggins was reminded of UT's secondary violations while in Gainesville.

Kiffin said it's important to identify when prospects have such concerns and educate them.

"Our number of secondary violations is not way above everybody else," Kiffin said. "Recruiting is a very competitive field. So what happens is people say things to players and parents that aren't very educated in the process."

Schools will often get dirty, telling a prospect that he won't be able to play in bowl games or compete for post-season awards such as the Heisman Trophy if they chose a school with too many violations.

"Unfortunately some kids buy into that," Kiffin said, "so we have to educate them."

Kiffin vs. Carroll: Kiffin said he has no problem facing off against Carroll, his longtime mentor, because of their relationship. The Trojans' success, however, is a different story.

"That's why it's difficult," Kiffin said of battling USC in recruiting, "not because of my relationship with him."

Kiffin said he and Carroll went after some of the same coaches this past off-season, so chasing the same prospects is no big deal.

"He would never get upset with that because he's the most competitive guy there is," Kiffin said. "He has fun with it especially because he's a little more powerful than we are right now with all those wins they've had lately.

"He kind of likes it when we go after the same people because he's been winning a lot lately."

Dave Hooker covers recruiting. He can be reached at hookerd@knoxnews.com.

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ULTIMATE_VOL_WARRIOR writes:

FIRST

FWBVol writes:

I keep reading that Bray is a second-tier QB, but Rivals has him as a 4-star guy rated just about Montana as far as pro-style QBs. He also rated higher than Scroggins at a recent camp.

It seems that in the recruiting of QBs that Kiffin is looking at the area he knows the best, the West Coast. I know he offered the kid from Cincinnati, and maybe on other from east of the Mississippi, but most of the guys he's going after at QB are from the west.

IMO he'd have a better shot at a QB from the Midwest, Southeast or Atlantic Coast regions as all of those areas are within a day's drive of Knoxville and it would allow a kid's family more opportunities to see him play, which seems to be a big factor for a lot of these young men.

vol_chaz writes:

Once these HS kids see first hand what our offense can do, they will start to commit to us, until then, we are unproven to them..

BasketVols writes:

in response to FWBVol:

I keep reading that Bray is a second-tier QB, but Rivals has him as a 4-star guy rated just about Montana as far as pro-style QBs. He also rated higher than Scroggins at a recent camp.

It seems that in the recruiting of QBs that Kiffin is looking at the area he knows the best, the West Coast. I know he offered the kid from Cincinnati, and maybe on other from east of the Mississippi, but most of the guys he's going after at QB are from the west.

IMO he'd have a better shot at a QB from the Midwest, Southeast or Atlantic Coast regions as all of those areas are within a day's drive of Knoxville and it would allow a kid's family more opportunities to see him play, which seems to be a big factor for a lot of these young men.

Both Andrew Hendrix and Tommy Rees have committed to Notre Dame. After a season of this new Vol offense (if it is successful), I could see one of these guys changing his mind.

DrJCrown_theMagicMan writes:

I say keep going after the QB's listed in the article and if we don't get one this year then we will land one next year.

We may get Bray though I really think there might be a surprise.I just see Kiff turning it up a notch or 10 after this..

Plus there are other QB's out there other then the guys we missed that could be better.

utkvol95 writes:

There is a kid over in Concord, NC named JEREMY CANNON who CLF should take a serious look at. I sat next to him on a flight out to LA about a month ago where he was heading to attend a USC football camp. His cousin was traveling with him and let me watch his highlite tape. He is a Jamarcus Russell type QB, with smarts, who can flip it 40 yards off his back foot with accuracy and also has 4.7 speed. Now the tape I watched was from his sophomore year because he blew out his ACL before the start of last season but if his knee is back to 100% he is a legitimate SEC caliber QB. He attended Coach Meyer's camp in early June and I was told coach fell in love with him. He also told me that he would like to stay close to home so that his family could watch him play. Definetly some UT should keep on the radar!!!

BuckFama writes:

Perhaps it's as Scroggins came right out and said ... the many secondary violations made him think twice. NOT about Tennessee, but about Tennessee's coach. It matters not whether that subject was brought up on visits to other campuses ... if they had not occurred, there would have been nothing to bring up. Maybe other recruits felt the same way.

Early on, Kiffin intimated that the actions that put him in hot water were by design, and that he committed the violations in order to keep the program's name "out there" in front of recruits. Now, when Slive chews Kiffin's backside in Hoover, Kiffin denies having done anything on purpose.

So, Kiffin: 1)makes the stupid comments; 2)drags the issue straight to the forefront of college football's front page; 3)is made to apologize to coaches, principals, towns, many of his team's own fans; 4)loses out on a highly-ranked QB prospect because of them; 5)then gets his hand slapped by the SEC's commish.

And all of this after telling two perfectly serviceable QB's that he didn't want them.

I don't recall this ever happening at Texas Tech or Cincinnati.

stayingorange writes:

It's not just Kiffin looking west. Except for Crompton and Coleman UT hasn't had a QB from east of the Mississippi since Manning and Martin.

chargervol writes:

Kiffin is the coach. They have already signed him. Its too late to sign texas tech or cincinnati's coaches.

chargervol writes:

GO VOLS!!!

chargervol writes:

I think Lane is learning as he goes. He has the media dazzled right now. Seems to be a quick learner. That's a quality you want in a new hire. GO VOLS!!!

OakyVol09 writes:

in response to BuckFama:

Perhaps it's as Scroggins came right out and said ... the many secondary violations made him think twice. NOT about Tennessee, but about Tennessee's coach. It matters not whether that subject was brought up on visits to other campuses ... if they had not occurred, there would have been nothing to bring up. Maybe other recruits felt the same way.

Early on, Kiffin intimated that the actions that put him in hot water were by design, and that he committed the violations in order to keep the program's name "out there" in front of recruits. Now, when Slive chews Kiffin's backside in Hoover, Kiffin denies having done anything on purpose.

So, Kiffin: 1)makes the stupid comments; 2)drags the issue straight to the forefront of college football's front page; 3)is made to apologize to coaches, principals, towns, many of his team's own fans; 4)loses out on a highly-ranked QB prospect because of them; 5)then gets his hand slapped by the SEC's commish.

And all of this after telling two perfectly serviceable QB's that he didn't want them.

I don't recall this ever happening at Texas Tech or Cincinnati.

First off, he said that he made the comments about other schools and coaches to keep our name out there, not the secondary violations. Second, I don't see any of these highly ranked QB's interested in or even considering Texas Tech or Cincinnati.

FWBVol writes:

in response to stayingorange:

It's not just Kiffin looking west. Except for Crompton and Coleman UT hasn't had a QB from east of the Mississippi since Manning and Martin.

A.J. Suggs came in about the time as Casey Clausen and was from the metro Atlanta area. Brent Schaefer, who eventually ended up at Ole Miss after being dismissed by CPF was from Central or South Florida, James Banks was from Indianapolis and Joey Matthews was from Seiver County and Burney Veasey (sp) was from Mississippi. And there was some other kid from Jackson, Bo Haregrave and C.J. Leak. In reality, Stephens, the Clausen brothers and Ainge are the only four quarterbacks from west of the Mississippi in the last decade.

TotalPackage1 writes:

"FOURTEENTH"

Is that 13 times as lame as "FIRST"?

elsinoresam writes:

in response to stayingorange:

It's not just Kiffin looking west. Except for Crompton and Coleman UT hasn't had a QB from east of the Mississippi since Manning and Martin.

Uh.. Manning was from New Orleans Louisiana (west of the Mississippi).

Voluvr writes:

I think we learned a big lesson on the important of keying on local/state/ and regional talent. I don't think too many SEC schools put too much into Heaps or Scroggins. Although Tennessee would launch their careers, their still kids that don't think too much of going far.

We would have had Brunetti had we loved on him early, but they did'nt want him that bad.

So, like the song says, to paraphrase, You can't always get what you want...but if you try sometimes ...you just might find.. you get what you need.

gohawks1 writes:

in response to elsinoresam:

Uh.. Manning was from New Orleans Louisiana (west of the Mississippi).

Seems to me that the muddy Mississippi runs through New Orleans, meaning it is east AND west (and even north, if you look at the map) of the river. Then again, it's past my bedtime, so I could be wrong.

rbhobbs73#226545 writes:

The problem, as I see it, for QBs in high school is that more and more of them are running the spread, especially here in the south. West Coast seems to have the most Pro-Style guys...seems that way anyhow...

die_hardvolfan_trucker writes:

Feb. is along ways away....

scvol12 writes:

Perhaps Kiffin was a bit arrogant when he let Boyd go. A bird in the hand......

VOLinAthensGA writes:

I am excited as anyone about the change. However, now we are feeling the affects. I guess Fulmer wasn't as much the problem in recruiting as we originally thought, huh? Also, we are reaping what we sowed when it comes to the treatment of our struggling quarterback last year. That stays in the minds of parents and would you want to send your kid into an environment where he will receive death threats? We need to stand behind the guy who stands behind the center no matter what and not forget these are kids we are dealing with.

TommyJack writes:

in response to elsinoresam:

Uh.. Manning was from New Orleans Louisiana (west of the Mississippi).

Uh, that depends....

CrankE writes:

in response to vol_chaz:

Once these HS kids see first hand what our offense can do, they will start to commit to us, until then, we are unproven to them..

My thoughts exactly.
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If Crompton can be a capable leader this season, then it's a signpost that our coaching staff can point to when recruiting. "We know what we're doing. Here's the proof. We turned this kid around."

Consider another USC. Steve Spurrier has been hindered at South Carolina by inconsistent QB play from the likes of Blake Mitchell and Stephen Garcia. Spurrier has done very well at SC, but how much better could they have been with a really sharp QB? Sorry, I won't be on the Gay Street bridge for a jump. Things will work out.

tdtnsee writes:

in response to VOLinAthensGA:

I am excited as anyone about the change. However, now we are feeling the affects. I guess Fulmer wasn't as much the problem in recruiting as we originally thought, huh? Also, we are reaping what we sowed when it comes to the treatment of our struggling quarterback last year. That stays in the minds of parents and would you want to send your kid into an environment where he will receive death threats? We need to stand behind the guy who stands behind the center no matter what and not forget these are kids we are dealing with.

Could not agree with you more!!!!! We(vol fans) want to trash and threaten our players (QB's) that we have and then sit back and exspect these high school kids to want to play here. You know Scroggins and his family were told about J.C death threats, and because of some stupid redneck peace of trash , that's probaly never played a down of football in there lives prospects and their families are going to hear that everytime we get into a heated recruiting battle. What parent or kid for that matter would want to go to a school where their kid will receive death threats and be put through all that nonsence. The people(propects and their familys) that haven't been told about this(death threats) will find out soon enough, cause you know ESPN will bring it up at some point and do a story on it, especially if Crompton does real well this year. We think its bad now just wait till this happens, we will never get a QB and the same people that do this will be the first ones to start doggin Lane Kiffin. We as fans need to really stop and think before we do anything that could reflect baddly on OUR program!!!! Sorry so long had to get that off my chest. GO VOLS!!!!!
BTW- let's show MR. Crompton how much we believe in him this year , let's have his back and go out there and support our players.

12packvolfan writes:

we very well could end up with q great qb next year

yeavols#228407 writes:

I love articles that sound an alarm and get everyone worried. Kiffin pulled off a top 10 recruiting class when everyone was wringing their hands and crying the blues..now we have an article that is about to have every VOL fan take a swan dive off Dead Man's Bluff. Now who was Graham Harrell of Texas Tech? Who was Matthew Stafford? Who were those unknown QB's Spurrier groomed while at Florida? AHHH..those unknowns, those competitors that come from nowhere who were overshadowed by the highly recruited players out of high school. Ya, some of those highly recurited players lived up to the billing, but others haven't. No worries about Kiffin not finding a QB for 2010. Let all the USC QBs sit on the bench. But, let a young kid who has the vision to see the potential greatness he has at Tennessee by coming in and making an immediate impact, whether he is a walk-on or another Peyton Manning.

stayingorange writes:

in response to FWBVol:

A.J. Suggs came in about the time as Casey Clausen and was from the metro Atlanta area. Brent Schaefer, who eventually ended up at Ole Miss after being dismissed by CPF was from Central or South Florida, James Banks was from Indianapolis and Joey Matthews was from Seiver County and Burney Veasey (sp) was from Mississippi. And there was some other kid from Jackson, Bo Haregrave and C.J. Leak. In reality, Stephens, the Clausen brothers and Ainge are the only four quarterbacks from west of the Mississippi in the last decade.

you're right and I did consider some of those, though you pulled out a longer list than I could come up with. But none of those guys saw much playing time and the rest didn't last on the team. The starters have come from the West Coast.

As far as New Orleans being west of the Mississippi, I'm in less agreement with that counterpoint.

utfpmd writes:

Winning games this year will solve this problem.

camoman270#222859 writes:

He was worried about secondary violations?
What happened to the scandal involving major primary violations of free living quarters of REGGIE BUSH'S FAMILY WHILE HE WAS AT USC??????????????????
Absurd!

oldsmokey67 writes:

Tyler Bray once he fill's out.Will be a awesome qb.I say we go after him and stay on him.If he puts 35 pounds of muscle on his frame look out.he's got a gun.Just my opinion.I'm new here to the site.Looking forward to a good season of UT football and basketball.

bigham writes:

Is this web site on dial-up? Fire the administrator of this site. It takes 5-6 seconds for a reaction. I could drive down to the store and buy a paper faster than I can read this one! Maybe thats why it's so slow!

VolFanNC writes:

For the record I did want Scroggins from the beginning, he could have come here and been a starter next year.

Just food for thought, but before we offerred Heaps, Bell, Simms or Scroggins, this staff was pursuing Lamaison. He had great stats last year in JC and he only played in the 1st half on a good portion of the games due to the leads. He is supposed to be very accurate in the deep ball, so don't count him out yet as he may contribute.

I don't completely blame Clawson for last years debacle as Fulmer took over the play calling, but anyone could see in the UCLA game JC had a concussion and was had a gimp ankle. There is no way an injured JC was better than a non-injured NS or Coleman. That was a huge coaching error in the 2nd half.

This year in a pro set where these guys were recruited to play in they should be a lot better or at least not lose games.

MemphisVol writes:

JC had a decent 2nd half in the UCLA game if I recall. He led us to two touchdowns in the fourth quarter. The D couldnt stop norm chow in the end.

invisiblekid writes:

in response to BuckFama:

Perhaps it's as Scroggins came right out and said ... the many secondary violations made him think twice. NOT about Tennessee, but about Tennessee's coach. It matters not whether that subject was brought up on visits to other campuses ... if they had not occurred, there would have been nothing to bring up. Maybe other recruits felt the same way.

Early on, Kiffin intimated that the actions that put him in hot water were by design, and that he committed the violations in order to keep the program's name "out there" in front of recruits. Now, when Slive chews Kiffin's backside in Hoover, Kiffin denies having done anything on purpose.

So, Kiffin: 1)makes the stupid comments; 2)drags the issue straight to the forefront of college football's front page; 3)is made to apologize to coaches, principals, towns, many of his team's own fans; 4)loses out on a highly-ranked QB prospect because of them; 5)then gets his hand slapped by the SEC's commish.

And all of this after telling two perfectly serviceable QB's that he didn't want them.

I don't recall this ever happening at Texas Tech or Cincinnati.

Nice bit of biased conjecture on your part regarding several subjects, nothing more.

A few facts you fail to acknowledge with your post:

1)That Slive met not only with Kiffin, but Chizik and Mullen as well

“As we told our coaches earlier this week in our SEC new coaches orientation program, any time they commit a secondary violation, they place themselves, their program, and he institution and the prospect at risk."

http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2009/07...

2)Secondary violations had little, if anything, to do with Scroggins' decision

"USC, however, held the strongest family tie. Lakewood is about a 20-minute drive from USC’s campus.

“It’s close to my home, where I live,” Scroggins said. “That’s in my backyard.”

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2009/j...

3)Boyd and Petty have yet to play in a college football game. There is no way to determine if either are "serviceable" at this point.

utkvol95 writes:

There is a kid over in Concord, NC by the name of Jeremy Cannon that needs to be on CLK's radar. Rivals currently only has him as a 2 star prospect but that is more than likely because he missed his entire Jr. season rehabbing a torn ACL. He attended coach Myer's QB camp down in Gainesville this summer and Urban was more than impressed with him from what a family member told me. He is a dual threat QB with speed and a strong, accurate arm. He also wants to stay close to home so that his family can watch him play. I have seen him play and he is without a doubt an SEC caliber QB.

HallowedHill writes:

in response to BuckFama:

Perhaps it's as Scroggins came right out and said ... the many secondary violations made him think twice. NOT about Tennessee, but about Tennessee's coach. It matters not whether that subject was brought up on visits to other campuses ... if they had not occurred, there would have been nothing to bring up. Maybe other recruits felt the same way.

Early on, Kiffin intimated that the actions that put him in hot water were by design, and that he committed the violations in order to keep the program's name "out there" in front of recruits. Now, when Slive chews Kiffin's backside in Hoover, Kiffin denies having done anything on purpose.

So, Kiffin: 1)makes the stupid comments; 2)drags the issue straight to the forefront of college football's front page; 3)is made to apologize to coaches, principals, towns, many of his team's own fans; 4)loses out on a highly-ranked QB prospect because of them; 5)then gets his hand slapped by the SEC's commish.

And all of this after telling two perfectly serviceable QB's that he didn't want them.

I don't recall this ever happening at Texas Tech or Cincinnati.

If it were Tennessee's coach, as you state, then Tennesse would not have been in the running with USC until the final moments of his decision. Personally, I believe Scroggins who said it was the distance (he preferred the school 20 minutes from his parents house).

In addition, Kiffin's comments landed a top 10 class in the month prior to signing day, if you think Texas Tech, Cincinatti, or even Coach Fulmer could have done that, you are sadly mistaken.

Further, if you think that Kiffin and crew are going to stop recruiting with 7 months before the next signing day, I'd tell you to hold on to your hat, the ride is just beginning.

HallowedHill writes:

in response to BolivarBob:

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Well said. For those of us that went to UT, and want "our" school to suceed, Kiffin is our coach now and he needs our support now. For those with impossible standards and no tolerance for failure, 'kiss off.'

FWBVol writes:

in response to stayingorange:

you're right and I did consider some of those, though you pulled out a longer list than I could come up with. But none of those guys saw much playing time and the rest didn't last on the team. The starters have come from the West Coast.

As far as New Orleans being west of the Mississippi, I'm in less agreement with that counterpoint.

I didn't say New Orleans was west of the Mississippi. Stephens is from Texas, the Clausens from California and Ainge from Oregon.

The thing is Fulmer did recruit more QBs from the Southeast and Midwest. THere was no way of knowing that three (four counting Stephens) of the kids from West would end up being the starter at one time or another on the Hill.

armyvol22 writes:

Does anyone remember a 2nd tier quarterback that played of the University of Delaware who is around 6’6” tall?
I think his name was is Flacco.

tovolny writes:

in response to bigham:

Is this web site on dial-up? Fire the administrator of this site. It takes 5-6 seconds for a reaction. I could drive down to the store and buy a paper faster than I can read this one! Maybe thats why it's so slow!

Amen on that! I can work through buckeyextra.com about as fast as I can push the keys and work the mouse...so, this tell me that the GoVolsExtra.com needs some updating. The streaming videos somehow just will not work e.g. try the Spring video of Coach O. Let us know... if I need to get a new, faster laptop, or what?

TnScooby writes:

in response to utkvol95:

There is a kid over in Concord, NC by the name of Jeremy Cannon that needs to be on CLK's radar. Rivals currently only has him as a 2 star prospect but that is more than likely because he missed his entire Jr. season rehabbing a torn ACL. He attended coach Myer's QB camp down in Gainesville this summer and Urban was more than impressed with him from what a family member told me. He is a dual threat QB with speed and a strong, accurate arm. He also wants to stay close to home so that his family can watch him play. I have seen him play and he is without a doubt an SEC caliber QB.

We read your first post

TnScooby writes:

I just wonder the how many high school QB's there are in America......How many are 4*'s and above?......You can't always get a 3, 4 or 5* QB and even when you do, they aren't always as good as their rating would indicate......Right now there is an unknown number of high school QB's who will become outstanding QB's in college that are not even on anybodys radar, much less rated 3*'s or above....I have confidence CLK will get the right QB....we just need to be patient

Volgrad777 writes:

in response to FWBVol:

A.J. Suggs came in about the time as Casey Clausen and was from the metro Atlanta area. Brent Schaefer, who eventually ended up at Ole Miss after being dismissed by CPF was from Central or South Florida, James Banks was from Indianapolis and Joey Matthews was from Seiver County and Burney Veasey (sp) was from Mississippi. And there was some other kid from Jackson, Bo Haregrave and C.J. Leak. In reality, Stephens, the Clausen brothers and Ainge are the only four quarterbacks from west of the Mississippi in the last decade.

Do some research. All of the guys you listed were not very good and none played at UT. Pro style QBs on the whole mostly come from Cali. That said , we offered a guy from Va, Oklahoma, Kansas, Cali, Ohio, Washington. We offered plenty of guys. There just arent many pro style guys in the SE.

DC_Vol writes:

in response to invisiblekid:

Nice bit of biased conjecture on your part regarding several subjects, nothing more.

A few facts you fail to acknowledge with your post:

1)That Slive met not only with Kiffin, but Chizik and Mullen as well

“As we told our coaches earlier this week in our SEC new coaches orientation program, any time they commit a secondary violation, they place themselves, their program, and he institution and the prospect at risk."

http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2009/07...

2)Secondary violations had little, if anything, to do with Scroggins' decision

"USC, however, held the strongest family tie. Lakewood is about a 20-minute drive from USC’s campus.

“It’s close to my home, where I live,” Scroggins said. “That’s in my backyard.”

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2009/j...

3)Boyd and Petty have yet to play in a college football game. There is no way to determine if either are "serviceable" at this point.

Excellent post Invisible Kid.
You saved me the trouble of replying to BuckFama's obviously biased/nonsensical post. Scroggins did in no way shape or form choose USC because he was worried about UT's secondary violations. If he were, he would have opened up recruiting and selected three new schools to consider. USC and Florida both have secondary violations as well. USC's has even more significant recruiting violatoins in regards to Reggie Bush than Florida or UT. So again, to be sure, secondary violations did not cause Scroggins to spurn UT.

Scroggins has said on his blog and in the press he chose USC because they represented the home team he routed for growing up. In addition, at USC he would play close to home and his parents would be able to see him play all his games.

Kiffin has done a great job recruiting and getting UT's name out there in the press. This has been as exciting an offseason as I can remember. The #10 recruiting class for 2009 was an amazing job considering he only became the coach in mid December. An amazing accomplishment. Great job Kiffin!

pdhuff#552644 writes:

How about plan Z?

Kick W Ky and UCLA's azz and give it your all vs Satan's hordes. Worry about QB's later.

Just a thought.

LetemLookThruTheirEarholes writes:

in response to TCHDWN10C:

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dont hold out ,spill the news

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