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Tennessee football coach Lane Kiffin may have committed a sixth NCAA secondary recruiting violation since his hiring, this one resulting from a segment featuring him on ESPN’s “Outside the Lines.”
During the segment first televised Sunday, Kiffin is shown meeting and talking with a recruit. At the end of the segment, ESPN’s Bob Ley, host of the show, brought the possible violation to light.
“Now, Kiffin’s arrival has brought several secondary NCAA violations,” Ley said. “It is entirely possible that you just saw another one. Remember the scene where Lane Kiffin is speaking with a recruit?
“Well, in the infamously thick NCAA rulebook, Rule 13.0.1, (it states) media members cannot observe recruiting contact by coaches. Tennessee tells Outside the Lines it is reviewing this matter. The NCAA is reserving comment until the story airs, so we look forward to hearing from them today (Sunday).”
UT spokesperson Tiffany Carpenter said Sunday UT is looking into the situation.
In the scene with the recruit, Kiffin welcomes the defensive back into the room.
“So, how’s it going?” Kiffin said.
“It’s going alright, man,” the recruit said.
“Yeah, yeah,” Kiffin said.
Kiffin’s appearance on “Outside the Lines” will certainly continue to stir things up.
ESPN reporter Wendi Nix reported in the segment that as of June 6, UT had self-reported five secondary recruiting violations since Kiffin’s hiring, from the simulated news conference for recruits to improper use of Twitter.
Kiffin was then shown with a response to the violations.
“If you really study recruiting violations, minor violations, they happen very often at a lot of places, unfortunately, and so you can’t do everything right,” Kiffin said. “Sometimes you make a mistake, and nothing that we’ve done has been set out to do something against the rules or on purpose.”
Nix’s report also mentioned Kiffin’s short reign as head coach of the Oakland Raiders. The segment showed part of the odd press conference when Raiders owner Al Davis fired Kiffin, and Davis reading the reasons for the firing while an overhead projector showed the text on a screen.
The Raiders then issued a statement for the “Outside the Lines” segment on Kiffin.
“Lane Kiffin is a flat-out liar,” the statement read. “He lied to the team, he lied to the fans, and he lied to the media. He will try to destroy that university like he tried to destroy the Raiders, and will eventually clash with (Pat) Summitt and (Bruce) Pearl. Other than that, the Raiders can say nothing further.”
During the segment, Kiffin again denied telling a recruit that he would end up pumping gas like other South Carolina graduates, if the recruit went to play for the Gamecocks.
“No, there’s no way that I said that,” Kiffin said. “I wouldn’t say anything like that. First of all, if you look at, I don’t think that anybody pumps gas because everything is self-serve nowadays. There’s no full-serve stations, so I’m smart enough to not have said it because of that, number one. But number two, we don’t negative recruit.”
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Comments » 492
dma38256#264746 writes:
Can watch the show here:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4238...
lovinwk writes:
It was a secondary violation at most. Number 6, if it is. Hmmm. How many do the other schools have?
crappieking writes:
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rockytop#413695 writes:
Is this the complete show? Seems like only a portion of the show. Could someone who watched it let me know. I forgot to set the recorder to get it. Darn!
FlaVol2 writes:
Are you jealous? Who do you pull for, Florida? Or is it Alabama?
tigervol77 writes:
ESPN must have a lot of Florida flunkies working for them! And as for KNS....You are slow at posting news! How many hours ago did this broadcast? I posted on here 1 min after it ended. Does that mean I get credit for breaking news?? It's only a secondary at best. Why didn't ESPN focus on why cry baby Myers would not interview??
volsn1 writes:
looks like ESPN IS THE GUILTY PARTY. THEY COMITTED THE VIOLATION
notoriousBIGorange writes:
Great exposure for the program. Who cares if it was a secondary violation. No recruits are going to care about that but they WILL remember CLK and the excitment around TN football. The only people that will care about whether or not it was a violation are the AL / FL trolls that visit this site.
FEAR THE KIFFIN !!
tigervol77 writes:
The only thing I got off OTL about Al Davis is that he is obviously the one who has snakes in his head, and skeletons in the closet. It was proof he is out to try to scar Kiffin's name. Al Davis is a crook! If you could not see that then you must be a crook too!
RichRollinz2 writes:
Well they put some good things to try and juice it up, but it was CLEARLY another chance for ESPN to drag us through the mud, JMO! Since when is it ESPN's job to report a violation that we have not been charged with on a world wide network? I'm pretty sure we will be hit with a secondary, but it's our job to report it not ESPN's. Now lets hope that we get the recruit. I mean Kiffin did get the boy and his dad on ESPN, LOL.
PrideOfTheSouthlandBand writes:
From what I can tell, that was a pretty good recruiting tool. I'll take a slap on the wrist for a cornerback anyday.
PepperGrinder writes:
Not suprising. The last time Kiffin was on ESPN they tried to get him to commit a violation. So I say F@#% ESPN.
Agent_Orange writes:
If espn creates the violation, that's not exactly the same as discovering a violation. The NCAA should slam espn over this one, not UT.
Go Vols!
tigervol77 writes:
This is very true.....maybe it was a set up!
RichRollinz2 writes:
I'm with you! Damn right it was a set up.
govols1295 writes:
ESPN has never liked TN. They just set him up for this one. Plus it's a secondary violation everybody gets them.
volmeister writes:
Kiffin got those recruits on ESPN, I guarantee you they were thrilled. That is worth a slap on the wrist.
RichRollinz2 writes:
I agree. Plus the DB was a Fla. kid, his dad had the state of Fla. on his jacket. If we get him who knows what pipeline we could be tapping into in the Sunshine State. BTW, DID ANYONE SEE LAYLA ON THE SHOW? WHOOOOOOAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If anything, showing her on TV may be the recruiting violation, LOL. If I were a prospect and seen that, I would instantly call CLK and ask: Where do I sign? I'm just saying....
wagee12 writes:
why didn't Hooker put his name on this, I bet his azz was burning trying to get to a computer. Entraped would be a better word than caught. So friggin, what, it's the same thing Auburn had to report last week when some recruits were shown on a local TV station at the log roll or whatever it was. Good to know though that the KNS has become nothing more than a foot soldier for ESPN. BTW, Gators, I'd be a lot more worried about the mounting number of arrests on your roster than an innocent 10 second piece of footage. Your lead for the Fulmer Cup is about to become insurmoutable.
mbible1utk#324980 writes:
i have pretty much zero concern about this one...
a.) It was ESPN who both filmed and aired the footage, not UT or the local media
b.) Secondary violation, and a pretty sad excuse for a violation
c.) Florida and USC are always in the news for something, and they've had success in recruiting. Atleast we aren't having to bail our guys out of jail (like Florida) or getting called on major violations (like USC). I'll take that any day of the week
d.) Kiffin said something Phil never would have said. Who cares what every other school's fans think... he wasn't hired for them.
I couldn't care less what the trolls want to think. Let them get hung up on that, we'll be reeling in the Bryce Brown types in the world.
Navalorange writes:
Two recruits on ESPN. That's the "story" for these recruits. It may be another SECONDARY violation. CLK still has a few to go to break the last regime's single season record, and that of a few other SEC schools. I think CEO nailed it when he said Kiffin is ahead of his time. Anybody that thinks things like this escape Kiffin's attention are just naive.
chad_t31 writes:
I agree with most of u...about espn and kns! If no media is allowed, then why the heck was espn there?! It's one of two things..either they are trying to get us in trouble or the excitement being brought to tn can't even keep espn away. U know they aren't doing us any favors by being there! Have they purposely tried to bury any other schools?! If it weren't for the spelling bee, I personally would never watch espn again, lmao!!!
Witch_Doctor writes:
Witch Doctor ask this the "scoop" KNS want? Witch Doctor say KNS stripes starting to show. Witch Doctor now question objectivity of KNS tone last few articles. Witch Doctor ask why other schools have not jumped on this but KNS does. Witch Doctor not shooting poison darts at KNS but hold up mirror so reflection can be seen. Bones never lie
Elkabong1940 writes:
The reporters are still harping about the "pumping gas" statement. Kiffin said he did not say that. Even the recruit he is supposed to say it to said "Kiffin did not say that." Enough already!
BigOrangeCrazy writes:
Not sure if anyone has seen the new Football Time magazine but here's a song by Steve Lawrence that was on the back page. Good stuff, if you're a UT or Johny Cash fan.
BTW, if anyone finds a video please post the link. Here's the lyrics.
I see the train a comin'
It's rolling down the track
It's headed up to Rocky Top
And it ain't comin back
We're getting on the Lane Train
for Knoxville Tennessee
When we pull into the station
We'll build a football team
When I was just a baby
My daddy said to me
You've gotta be a Volunteer
That's all you need to be
I'm jumpim on the Lane Train
for Knoxville Tennessee
When we pull into the station
We'll make some history
Well the train whistle's blowing
I can hear it loud and clear
So get aboard the Lane Train
With a brand new engineer
We're rollin' up to Knoxville
...the Kiffin calvary
Ole Smokey's at the station
Rocky Top Tennessee
So get aboard the Lane Train
Rocky Top Tennessee
tweetdriver63#346474 writes:
CLK was very diplomatic when asked about Oakland, and the Raiders organization's statement showed what dooshbags they, and Al Davis, truly are.
Good job taking the high road, Coach.
bd40pe writes:
If there was in fact an infraction ESPN is as much responsible as Tennessee. Especially if they knew about it beforehand and notified the NCAA before they aired the footage. The NCAA rules in regards to recruiting are in place to protect young high school players. ESPN can not reap the rewards of these huge TV deals and then take no responsibilty when they are involved in a violation of the rules.
RichRollinz2 writes:
I do have to agree, them gator women like your momma are hot. BWAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
BolivarBob writes:
Seems you know a lot about turds and nothing about football.
Navalorange writes:
zz or DC, which ever one you are, NOBODY gives a sh_t about your bias, da OPINION of UT's head coach. It's your opinion, therefor, everyone already knows it's wrong. You're problem is that you are too simple minded to realize this. Your knowledge of football and the coaching thereof, is laughable at best. You never have had any CREDIBILITY on this board and you NEVER WILL. In other words, you're meaningless here, so keep spewing your drivel that nobody takes seriously. It seems like a fruitless effort to me, but then again I'm not a TROLL.
The_Four_Horsemen writes:
The Ohio State has had over 300 since 2004
chad_t31 writes:
Yeah I'll respond to the troll. Not only are the points in ur post ridiculous, they are absurd. The one that sticks out the most is al davis being one of the most successful owners. Really??? C'mon, ur better than that. The raiders have been relevant once since the 80's. Part of being a successful owner is putting a quality team together. He's done it once in almost 30 years and to you, he's successful. Man I wish u were my boss.
BolivarBob writes:
Instead of KNS continuously jabbing at Kiffin and the program why don't they list the number of secondary violations of all the SEC schools and/or top 20 teams. It appears they do not want to keep things in context. Just a concentrated effort to keep shining a negative light on the program. What gives?
rockytopman writes:
CLEARLY a ploy by espn... plain and simple. But hey, who cares. If they wanna show just how sorry they are, let 'em. CLK knows what he is doing, and it want be long till the rest of the SEC understands.
volfan7 writes:
I watched this clip. Al Davis said Kiffin was fired because he engaged in propaganda and because of his tenedency to lie. He also complained of his continuously making excuses for his failure at Oakland. We have heard the propaganda and lies at Tennessee. There is at least some truth to Davis' claims. Kiffin even has his wife making excuses for him.
As far as the sixth secondary violation is concerned, all I can say is this: Scandal after scandal after scandal after scandal! I wish we had a Coach who could win and have at least a minimum of class. Kiffin has neither.
pdhuff#552644 writes:
Put in a call to Swayback and get back to us.
chad_t31 writes:
And then if duke wins it next year, u will be a blue devil fan...we get it.
SandyLoyCCM writes:
I watched the video, Al Davis' comments will only motivate Kiffin even more. There is nothing that will get the juices flowing more than an ex boss crticising you...I would trust Pete Carroll's comments much more than Davis'.
Overall, every clip I see of a practice shows me much more intensity than was there at practices under Fulmer. I was at some of those practices and I could talk to the person next to me in a normal voice...not at Kiffin's practices! WOW...as Majors said, that is how football is supposed to be practiced!
I can't wait till September! Go Vols!
embarssmentofriches writes:
The burden is on the institution. NCAA bylaw is as follows...
13.10.1 Presence of Media during Recruiting Contact.
A member institution shall not permit a media entity to be present during any recruiting contact made by an institution's coaching staff member. Violations of this bylaw do not affect a prospective student-athlete's eligibility and are considered institutional violations per Constitution 2.8.1. (Adopted: 1/9/96, Revised: 1/14/97)
DennisVols writes:
The Orlando Sentinel reported that 24 of UF’s football players have been arrested since Meyer was hired in 2005. That is a 10% arrest rate (24 out of 239 players on the active roster) which is double the rate of the general population.
If the NCAA wants to be taken seriously then quit worrying about who had a camera pointed at CLK when he was legally talking to a recruit. Heck a cell phone may have been used to film it. By the way NCAA it is all the media hype that fuels the machine of college football which by the way pays your salary. The NCAA needs to address the issue of crimes being committed by student-athletes at universities such as UF at a rate higher than what the general public faces. The slapping of the hand treatment those coaches like Meyer uses to promote the “win at all costs” theory has to be stopped. These kids need to be dealt with stiffly and punished to a point that the next player will think twice about what they do before doing it.
The people living around the campus of UF have twice the chance of being attacked by a football player than anyone else. I guess if you win a NC in football the NCAA will turn its head and close its eyes to the fact that your players should be put in jail instead of the weight room.
RichRollinz2 writes:
You must be Gatorz7, because you are not a Vol fan. We had a coach with "class" and all he did was get crushed by the ENTIRE SEC. When he wasn't doing that he was setting up police ride alongs for his players/convicts. Could you guess who I'm talking about?
MrKnoxville writes:
Notice in the video of the recruit in Lane's office, how Monte talks about how he loves how aggressive he is and Lane says that is your kind of DB.....either Lane wanted the kid and I assume his dad to see how much they wanted him and didn't care that ESPN was there in the office...only for this kid to turn on his TV and say OMF'nG I'm on ESPN in Coach Kiffin's office that is bad arse....or ESPN was there trying to just simply be negative.
CLK wasn't hired for the trolls or other schools in the country...so in the fashion of the Oakland Raider trash....F_ck all the Haters!
By the way...if Pete Carroll believes in Lane.....that is good enough for me.
OrangePride writes:
You know something ESPN, you guys are the absolute pits! I watched that stupid show you produced and it was about 20% positive (barely) and 80% negative. And surely, if they know enough to call attention to it, then they knew at the time it was a secondary violation and went ahead and aired it anyway. They must have had hours of tape that they edited, so why leave that in? It's rhetorical question, bloggers.....we all KNOW why. ESPN.......LOUSY JOB! I just hope LK and staff go out this fall and really shock some people in big games!
OrangePride writes:
Oh.....and by the way. LK and staff.....you may have passed the written test on NCAA rules, but you are failing the live test big time! READ AND LEARN THE DANG RULES GOOFAPOTAMUS!!
Pacemaker writes:
I will remember your name after 3 yrs. If and I say If we have a great couple of recruiting classes and IF we have a rebounding season after this one....I dont want to ever see you on here again. Go to the Kentucky website and fight along side a real cheater!
MrKnoxville writes:
The NCAA should do something about this....but hey...its Florida....turn the head the other way...if it was UT, Bama, 'Canes, FSU, etc. they & the liberal media would be talking about this everyday...just like they are on these silly 2ndary nick nack violations.
And such is life.
OrangePride writes:
Hey! Bamaboy!! It may be on the coach to have known better, but that does NOT absolve ESPN from its contribuatary part in this.
utclassof1992 writes:
You are out of luck wishing for class out of Kiffin. All the Vol Nation cares about nowadays is winning, no matter what the cost. And dont make the mistake of mentioning our national-championship winning former coach. He is persona non-grata right now, no matter how much he did for UT. All these kids care about is "just win baby". They will wake up when the NCAA comes calling.
txvolsfan writes:
Did the Gay-tors make it through the weekend with out an arrest?
I doubt it!!!
n2thecheckerboards2 writes:
Still on Phils teet?????
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