TUSCALOOSA, Ala. — The University of Alabama has taken the first step toward appealing a ruling by the NCAA that forced the Crimson Tide football program to vacate 21 wins.
The university said Thursday it has sent a notice of appeal to the NCAA, but won’t contest other sanctions, including three years of probation.
The NCAA placed Alabama’s football program and 15 other sports on probation after 201 athletes were found to have used their scholarships to get free textbooks or other materials they weren’t entitled to.
That group included 22 “intentional wrongdoers,” including seven football players. They obtained more than $100 in supplies for other students.
Alabama is also appealing penalties vacating the individual records of 15 student-athletes in men’s tennis and men’s and women’s track.
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Comments » 57
the10sevol writes:
you got a slap on the wrist, don't poke the beast with a stick, idiots!
volzcrushm writes:
Good point. This might be a little too much agitation and the tide might get a little tougher penalty.
gohawks1 writes:
The attorneys are preparing a strong case for the defense. Page 4, paragraph 7, line 4 of the prepared document states, "We're talking about textbooks. These people down here can't read, so where's the crime?"
rusty_shackleford writes:
On probation again.
The Crimson Tide is on probation again.
The life they love is cheating on the rules, my friends.
That's why they can't stay off probation again.
On probation again.
Like a band of felons they get on the highway.
They will buy their friends,
Recruits, coaches, and moms because it's their way.
And their way...
Is on probation again....
My apologies to Willy!
VolsAllTheWay writes:
Most of the "textbooks" hadn't even been colored in yet and were returned in like new condition.
gohawks1 writes:
The connect-the-dots puzzles weren't completed either.
TommyJack writes:
Best they let sleeping dogs lie.
gohawks1 writes:
"Lie" being the operative word here.
BigOrangeJeff writes:
Bammer's on probation again, and they claim they didn't do it and/or the NCAA is being unfair. In other shocking, recurring news:
- Gasoline prices are going up during the summer travel period
- A politician was caught in an affair
- The sun came up this morning
golfballs03 writes:
I dislike Alabama
baldfan writes:
Also, they did not have instructions for the "pop-ups" in these alleged text books.
marinevol writes:
bama sleaze.
chrisw2967 writes:
those idiots just dont know when to leave well enough alone.
I hope they appeal it and the NCAA comes back with something worse.they deserve exactly what they get.
next time they will take those imaginary NCs they claim every year.
littleorange writes:
Cheat bama Cheat.....it's inbred....
spencer1989#206886 writes:
I wouldn't hold my breath on winning this appeal. It's kind of like getting caught with your pants down around your ankles when running away from an out house with a swarm of wasps stinging your butt.
jackxx#237396 writes:
Alabama 'Student'-athletes buying textbooks -- a dead giveaway every time.
I hate the Crimson Tide and the Gators and Florida is not even a close second.
Of course, I'm talking football -- not 'UCONN' and their raggedy-@ss coach who is even worse than 'Bama.
Jackfergs in VA
stevefrommemphis writes:
Whiners. I can make a reasonable argument that Alabama should have received the DEATH PENALTY. In fact, I am going to FILE MY OWN APPEAL WITH THE NCAA THAT MAKES JUST THAT ARGUMENT! ! !
February 1, 2002, when Probation #2 was announced, Thomas Yeager, chairman of the NCAA Infractions Committee, said:
"[Alabama was] absolutely staring down the barrel of a gun. These violations are some of the worst, most serious that have ever occurred." If Alabama is found guilty of further violations during the probationary period, Yeager suggested the death penalty -- the elimination of a sports program -- could result. "God forbid, there's ever another appearance -- ever," Yeager said. "Should there be one -- particularly within the five-year period -- I don't know what's left."
Alabama has now been put on probation (Probation # 3) for violations which occurred during the five year period when Alabama was on probation (Probation # 2) for committing violations which occurred during a period of time when Alabama was on probation (Probation #1). Two separate transgressions WHILE ON PROBATION FOR OFFENSES BEGINNING AS FAR BACK AS 1993.
THE ALABAMA FREEDOM CLOCK
http://spuat.wickens.ws/
The ALABAMA FREEDOM CLOCK has not yet been reset to account for the latest probation. This clock was in perpetual countdown from February 1, 2002 through January 31, 2007, the period of probation #2 (during which the textbook scandal occurred).
http://audrumline.tripod.com/bammerha...
Leftover material from probation #2. The drawing of Bear as Moses in the lower left corner is particularly funny.
My conclusion: ALABAMA SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE DEATH PENALTY.
As an aside, I do wish the Alabamians at one particular bank down there that I own stock in had spent less time worrying about Crimson Tide football over the last 5 years and more time thinking about how prudent it was to make billions of dollars worth of uncollectible loans.
stevefrommemphis writes:
http://audrumline.tripod.com/bammerha...
This link works. Check out the picture of Bear Bryant as Moses in the lower left. It says it all.
bamaperry#265482 writes:
This shouldn't even have been an NCAA issue.
BTW, get ready for another stomping this year. LOL!
stevefrommemphis writes:
Doesn't matter. If recent history is any guide, there's a good chance it will be "vacated" within 3 years.
CoverOrange writes:
I agree. This wasn't cheating, this was fraud. Why aren't those 201 student athletes going before a judge? I wouldn't expect jail time for any of them but they should have marks on their records, probationary sentences, community service, etc.
givehim6 writes:
Give them the max. Don't let them bowl for 5 years, only can recruite 15 per year for 5 years, and a fine bama 1\2 a millon. Let bama sit on that one for a while.g
Psychovol writes:
NCAA make them regret not taking their medicine. Bama has always thought they were above the rules and that false entitlement started with the Bear.
FWBVol writes:
What everyone seems to be overlooking is the NCAA cares about one thing, MONEY!!! The money from the bowl games is why they don't go to a playoff system in Division I (although I still would need to see a working model for that). But the bowls bring in millions and millions of dollars. Like Bama or hate Bama, nobody can deny that Bama is a cash cow for the NCAA. Every time an Alabama T-shirt is sold, the NCAA gets a percentage, just like it does when a UT item is sold.
Bama fans travel well, pay well and Alabama is a big TV draw. The NCAA says it doesn't want to penalize other teams that would be hurt by not having their games with Bama on the tube. The translated version is, "ESPN and CBS want to have Nick Saban and Alabama on TV." Since the networks now control the NCAA it should come as no surprise that Alabama wasn't given more than a slap on the wrist.
Does anyone think that Mississippi State or say Colorado would have gotten off with such a mild slap on the wrist?
gangrell84 writes:
kiffin needs to recruit more rapists in my opinion...seriously you UT fans have no room to talk about another school...
UT 5-7 again this year
murrayvol writes:
Willie will appreciate the apology.
murrayvol writes:
When FSU filed their appeal the NCAA response was essentially "are you kidding me?"
This should elicit a similar response and perhaps a tomato upside the head.
Volunatic writes:
Good work, Rusty.
tdforvols writes:
No room to talk? Are you kidding me? How many times has the Vols football team been on probation in the last 20 years? And giving a kid a second chance is considered some kind of crime by the bammer fans. Totally classless Gangrell84. Go back to ESPN.com where you normally spew your mindless drivel.
smyrnavol writes:
ok bubbacherry, by your thinking, the fog machine shouldn't have been an ncaa issue right? we are so glad you can look into your crystal toilet bowl and predict the future. lmao! me thinks the stomping will be on the other foot this year. GO VOLS!!!
volhome#407234 writes:
Oh, thank you Lord that the Tidiots are here. My guess is they have some organized alumni association to peruse the net so they can post some pathetic drivel on every website that ever mentions their cheating U. Truth be darned, they'll post away. Roll, Tide, Roll, straight onto probation. Again.
BigOrangeJeff writes:
To all Bammer lurkers:
The problem isn't the Bookgate scandal in and of itself. The problem is that your oversight people allowed this while still within your probabtionary window.
Just like when a thug (Bammer) commits a major felony (paying HS coaches), then gets paroled early with a period of time on probation. He then gets picked up for something relatively minor (improper benefits, lack of institutional control). At that point, the judge (NCAA) has the right to sentence the slimeball (UAT) more heavily for all of his previous transgressions (list to long to itemize here).
cc623 writes:
Yes they do need to recruit more rapists so that after these next few years of being beaten by a former 5-7 team you guys will have someone to blame it on.If that doesn't do it for you or you guys happen to actually win the next few understand the record books do serve as the only correct account of what happened and with all the cheating going on I don't think anybody has to worry about Bama since there wins get wiped often!Keep it up and we won't ever have to actually beat you guys to pass you in the record books considering you guys are going backwards down the list every year regardless of your efforts!
tdforvols writes:
And when exactly would that be tide man? I can find no records anywhere of these two probations you mention. Everybody Google "NCAA places tennessee on probation" (with the paranthesis) and see what comes up. Now that's some funny sh*t right there!
cc623 writes:
Why would the joke be on him considering our school's record gets better every year with all the cheating going on at Bama.You guys will never learn it is hard to sound relevant when your school can't even manage to keep actual wins because they are too stupid to play by the rules.Better yet they are not even smart enough not to get caught(maybe you guys should contact Coach Cal since he would at least get somebody to make you look smart and not get caught).
huntined#565710 writes:
If this were at U.T of GA. or any other school they would appeal this also..what do they have to lose?
spvol writes:
Bammer Attorney handling the appeal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBZUaY...
smyrnavol writes:
provide some links. hearsay is just that. i've looked, can't find anything either.
smyrnavol writes:
that's off the charts funny td. think it would take six months to read all that material about the cheatin turds. GO VOLS!!!
tdforvols writes:
TideRoll, My original post said in the past 20 years. If you want to count the 91 incident then OK as that barely fits into the 20 year timeframe. I see the NCAA imposed zero sanctions on the Vols for that minor incident. Face the music: the Vols are a mean & clean football team while the tide is always in the NCAA doghouse.
blitzshoot writes:
Either way, it's great just knowing they are having to appeal. Enjoy the process.
cc623 writes:
First off he is "free and clear" from Memphis while they are being investigated(if you are insinuating UMASS seems to me everybody else took the fall for Cal).Yes it does hurt you for the future because it will continue to happen until Bama finally gets the death penalty from the NCAA.Last I checked we had coaches in every sport and are not minus any and as a matter of fact there's plenty that that the turd staff would give their left testicle for(especially after Saban rolls out the door).
belayvol writes:
Why couldn't Baby Jesus be born in Alabama?
They couldn't find 3 wisemen or a virgin.
belayvol writes:
Why don't bama fans fart?
They never keep their mouths shut long enough to build up any pressure
belayvol writes:
FBI bust's a new terrorist group in Tuscaloosa. Arrested in the bust were Bin Losin', Bin Whinin' & Bin Cheatin'
crimsonviper writes:
thought i had heard them all.that is a pretty good one,made me LOL,thanks belay
belayvol writes:
How you doing Viper? Hot enough for you? 95 again here today with 77% humidity. I saw a bird pick up a worm with a pot holder today.
crimsonviper writes:
Doin' good belay.about the same temp here on Lookout Mtn...too hot!
belayvol writes:
I dread August.
crimsonviper writes:
me too.i get started by daylight.that helps some.i have noticed you posting sometimes very early.i have tried to catch you but have missed by a few minutes.not many are up at 5 a.m.
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