Tennessee head football coach Lane Kiffin and his former boss, Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis, had a chance meeting Tuesday in Oakland, Calif., where Kiffin was on hand to give his deposition in his case seeking payment of $2.6 million in salary he says the Raiders owe him under contract. Davis contends Kiffin breached the contract and is owed nothing.
San Francisco Chronicle writer Nancy Gay has this account:
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BigOrangeJeff writes:
Al Davis was quoted as saying, "You kids get off my lawn!!!"
landonrhoton#625592 writes:
Then did he say "And I would have gotten away with it had it not been for those meddling kids!"
Scooby Dooby Doo!
montanavolfan writes:
funny......
BigOrangeJeff writes:
Prediction: If Davis wins the lawsuit, his first comment will be "Excellent" in his best Montgomery Burns voice.
gerrybla writes:
Is Kiffin asking for 2.6 million or for the two months salary that he missed in between being fired and hired by Tenn. My friend in L A says it's two months.
OrangeMandM writes:
LOL!!!!
volstuckinbama writes:
Al Davis is a flipping idiot. He is a joke for the NFL. With idiots like him....no wonder the NFL is struggling so bad.
Timed_vol (Inactive) writes:
pointless article.
dvhill100 writes:
Much ado about nothing.
illinoisvolfan writes:
I think Al Davis has been on vacation since the Raiders last Super Bowl. At the very least, he's been out to lunch...
chrisw2967 writes:
you would think that old al at his age wouldnt remember what happened 5 minutes ago let alone 6 or 7 months ago.My money is on Al to screw it all up and lose.Al has breached ever contract he has ever had drawn up.
He is the most pathetic thing in the NFL and the raiders would finish last in the SoCon.
Lane will be walking out of court rapping to the song "Paid In Ful"
RoyaltyVol#280778 writes:
Al Davis chews up new HC's and spits them out. I have no respect for this man, and I didn't long before Kiffin came along. Al Davis is kind of like the Al Capone of owners.
GreerVol22 writes:
Can one really trust a writer from San Francisco named "Gay"???
pastorlee#372395 writes:
LOL. One of the best that I've heard in a while.
RoyaltyVol#280778 writes:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruit...
This is 3 days old, and most of you have probably already seen this, but I just watched the Bryce Brown interview done by rivals.com right after his announcement. I like this kid!
RoyaltyVol#280778 writes:
Sorry, it didnt work!
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
hahahaha, god you guys crack me up. Who does Kiffin think he is. At first everyone was on kiffs side, but now after all he has said its the other way around. You have everyone take Al Davis's side. Man thats hard to do.
Kiffin has no shot at winning this lawsuit or whatever it is. Davis has won these things against, gruden, shannahan, city of Oakland, city of LA, and a lawsuit again the NFL. So what does this snot nosed punk think he can do that the NFL couldnt do.
Kiffin is an ego maniac...
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
This quote from an article on SI article calls into question his decision making skills.
AS: How much did Brian Butler help you?
BB: "He helped a lot. He's taken a hard, heavy hit on this as well. But like I said, God put this in place. This could have happened to anybody, but he picked us two. Brian's been there 100 percent. Without him, none of this would be possible."
TommyJack writes:
Your ability to endure self-embarrassment is limitless.
KnoxKiffinIsMyHero writes:
Our new head coach is giving journalists all over america something to write about everyday. I hope he knows what he's doing. I know he wants his money, I would too. But taking on someone as cynical and dare I say insane as Al Davis could end badly for Kiffin. Al Davis has a lot of the NFL on his side. Let us all pray for our fearless coach.
olozbal#646632 writes:
I disagree. The kid is an honor student and person of faith. For a freaking 18 year old in the national spotlight I'm impressed he held up well.
How'd we do decision making wise when we were 18 years old? 'nuff said.
robow writes:
the car dealership called and said the new cars are ready for delivery.Wonder if nickie dropped his pants again..sure hope so, and he need's to grab his ankles while he's at it, as the N C A A is on the way.
kabzs writes:
Yeah sure... and Kiff will be spending his $2+million award long after Alabama is off its next probation, caused by Mr Genius Saban.
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
Butler called and said the money cleared and everything is a go...
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
You know nothing. If we even get probation, it wont be anything. And it started before saban got their so your logic is really busted...
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
No way he wins this...
Volunatic writes:
When you're a bama fan, you really have to keep track of the timelines of the various NCAA infractions. Tuscaloosa987 is a top-notch bama fan-- always on top of that sort of thing.
Volunatic writes:
You Gator fans sure seem concerned about UT's coaching situation.
He'll do fine.
Especially against y'all.
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
No not really, you have been on probation as many times as we have there bud...
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
I would say that too if the only time we had lasting success against you guys with while you were on probation. I feel your pain. Not really but you know what I mean...
kabzs writes:
The NFL has been on Davis for years going back to the days of "Raider football" from the AFL days forward. Most of you guys are too young to remember the days of the AFL on NBC with Curt Gowdy, from back in the early 60's.
The Raiders were notorius for utilizing what is today illegal: a)head shots and clotheslines with the forearm to defenseless receivers across the middle; b)head slaps to linemen and quarterbacks c)chop blocks to linemen when engaged with another player...intended to hurt the opposing lineman's knees.
Some might argue that it is no sin to play the game within the rules as they existed at the time, and that is to be applauded. I consider it unethical to injure someone permanently in order to win a game. Davis's aggressive tactics resulting in permanent injury helped foster the environment create the player's union to provide for disabled players.
Davis has earned himself scores of enemies through the decades. It's tough not to walk into a hearing and win when you have already have baggage. I believe the abritrator is probably unbiased yet, he is human. It's tough to be unbiased at all.
The NFL sued him during the moves from Oakland to LA and back. Long term negative animus is hard to overcome. Kiff's claims have more cred because it is against Davis himself.
And let's not forget Kiff's attitude...he will not quit. He will keep on competing. On the field and off.
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
Ya they layed some people out. Not the only team to play like that though.
If Davis won a lawsuit with the NFL, why do you think kiffin will be able to get his. Kiffin has no cred outside vol nation.
Ya he wont quit on ego hoging recruits, youre right...
kabzs writes:
Yep, Alabama's cheating has been going on for decades; long before Saban got there. The allegation is the textbook coverup was there long after Saban's arrival.
suppression of evidence...willful non-responsiveness to Open Records Act requests is a really big deal.
VOLKING writes:
Bama and Gator fans (especially Gatorz2 with 7000 posts in the last month)......shameless and spineless. Keep on writing, girls, if it makes you feel better.
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
Lane Kiffin is the college football equivalent of pee wee Herman taking a huge spill off of his brightly colored bicycle, then getting up and saying to everyone, "I meant to do that."
I dont believe for one second that all of his gaffes over the last couple of months have been "intentional." Hes a complete boob just for thinking that anyone would believe that. From now on, his nickname should be Lane "I meant to do that" Kiffin
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
You keep proving you know nothing about the situation. First of all how is it a cover up if we self reported it.
It is not a big deal unless you are a sports writer. If they wanted to know, they could have found out. We didnt hide anything, we suspended players for four games and self reported this. The NCAA reinstated the players for the bowl game. Some sports writers are made they Alabama didnt say anything. Give me a break...Nothing was official yet, why say it...
sidwalkvol writes:
Please call a therapist about your O/C. I am not kidding. It isn't healthy, this lather you get into about CLK. Still calling him names (and me, too; I am not sidney) and obsessing on every story is, well, disturbed and disturbing.
kabzs writes:
Neither you nor I know what he actually thought when he called out Urban. In Pee Wee's case he did mean to do it, and pretending the fall made him more effective to play off it.
Assuming for argument you are right,that Kiff was caught with his foot in his mouth, it's brilliant of him to roll with the subjective puzzle created by it. You will never know will you? It drives outsiders like you nuts and we are having a ball with your frustration!
All that you do know for sure is that his critics (to date) have been exasperated and outwitted; recruits have been charmed; the team is enthusiastic; and the fan base is very seriously fired up!
Looks like things are going very well indeed.
kabzs writes:
And your rebuttal to my point of not responding to the Open Records Act request, required under state law is what?
gaytorzzandnafandmikefromUCANTrgay writes:
HI GUYS...IM GAY
Volunatic writes:
I don't recall UT being on probation to the point of being banned from postseason play. Please, refresh my memory.
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
I didnt expect you to get it...You will after October...
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
Hey we didnt deny anyone access. No one asked and we didnt tell. That act dosent apply to this.
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
No never had a postseason ban, but been on probation twice nonetheless.
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
Thats what he likes to take credit for, but he was just saving his own azz. it was the NCAA and the coaces of memphis that took us down...Thats why you had success against us.
kabzs writes:
Sorry bro... it most certainly does. Alabama is in deep poo.
http://www.acca-online.org/acca_mag/c...
Try again.
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
Sorry but that does not pertain to this case. We self reported in and it was common knowledge that we suspended those players and they were reinstated by the NCAA. We arent going to put it in the front page but I guarantee there was no foul play. You are just fishing for something. Keep digging...
Ironcity writes:
You are an idiot Sabenated987! Kiffin has no shot losing the lawsuit. He was fired he had a contract the contract stipulates he get paid. Their is mountains of case law that backs up Kiffin. I could defend him and win this suit. Its really just a matter of how much he gets.
The reason why Al is slandering him any chance he can is in the hopes that Kiffin would drop the suit.
The other big reason Kiffin will win is the coaches association is looking closely at how the NFL conducts itself in this situation. If Al somehow prevailed then every coach in the NFL would be holding a contract that had no value.
If you comeback to suggest just cause, their is nothing that Kiffin did to suggest he didn't do his best. His team was competitive every week but one. He played to win every week and he had no choice as to who he played or who was on the team. Even if he gave the Raider playbook to the the Raider opponents after he was fired, Al would have no case since he was no longer an employee.
Old Al is not only going to lose he is going to lose big.
kabzs writes:
The allegations were the textbook issues began in 2005 and 2006 BUT CONTINUED into the fall of 2007, when Saban was there. Most importantly there were no institutional controls in place as safeguards.
The suppression followed.
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/ind...
Alabama is in deep poo
FulmerWasSabanated987 writes:
Im sure Mike Shannahan and John Gruden thought the same thing. Its not a suit, see thats how much you dont know. Its an arbitration, no litagation. The arbirtator the NFL hired will rule in favor of the NFL franchise. Sorry...Kiffin has no chance to win this. He is an ego maniac. Hes won these things before and won lawsuits against the NFL and whole cities...
Im sure Al's lawyers had Kiffin trippin all over his tounge...
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