Report: Ex-Vol Ramar Smith took $6K, gun, half-pound marijuana

Ramar Smith

Ramar Smith

Editor's note: Corrects Smith's age and that one gun was reported taken.

KNOXVILLE - Former University of Tennessee basketball player Ramar Smith is accused of taking $6,000 in cash, a gun and a half pound of marijuana during an armed home invasion robbery Monday night.

Smith made a $15,000 bond this morning and was released from a Knox County jail after a one-hour stay.

Smith surrendered to police about 2:02 a.m. at the City County Building downtown, according to Knoxville Police Department Officer James Cox.

Smith was transported to the Knox County Detention Facility and, with the aid of a bail bondsman, was released after an hour, at 9:52 a.m., records show.

Smith, 21, was charged in connection with the 6:43 p.m. Monday home invasion robbery at Steeplechase Apartments, 5800 Central Avenue Pike, according to KPD spokesman Darrell DeBusk.

Police also are trying to determine if the home invasion robbery was connected to a Tuesday night shooting at a South Knoxville apartment complex that left one person in critical condition.

"We interviewed him in great length this morning," DeBusk said, but he declined to divulge any details gleaned from those discussions.

"There could be additional arrests as the investigation moves forward."

According to court records, the victim, Kinder Tuckwiller, said Smith had come to his apartment to buy marijuana. Tuckwiller, a UT student, said he knew Smith.

While he was dealing with Smith, Tuckwiller said another person he didn't know entered the apartment at Steeplechase and robbed him of his personal property at gunpoint.

Tuckwiller flagged down police at 6:43 p.m. Monday, and Tuckwiller told police he had been robbed and that he had fired a round from a shotgun in the air to scare the suspects, a report states.

Officers found a loaded 12-gauge shotgun with one spent shell and one live shell in the passenger seat of Tuckwiller's truck and instructed him to return to his apartment.

When officers arrived at Tuckwiller's apartment, they smelled "a strong smell of fresh cut marijuana," records state.

According to the report, neighbors told officers they saw two males fleeing the apartment with a backpack and large duffle bag.

They also said they saw Tuckwiller run out of the apartment and place a small object in a nearby storm drain.

Crime lab officers recovered a blue pill bottle containing four pills believed to be oxycontin, the report states.

The Tuesday night shooting occurred at Woodlands Townhouses of Knoxville, 3700 Spruce Ridge Way, about 11:41 p.m., according to police.

They found Charles Corn, age unavailable, suffering from multiple gunshot wounds in the living room of his apartment, according to DeBusk.

"There were several other individuals in the apartment at the time" of the shooting, he said.

Witnesses told police that two men were seen leaving the area after the shooting.

DeBusk declined to say what type of firearm was used or where on his body Corn was shot. Corn was taken to the University of Tennessee Medical Center where he was listed in critical condition.

Among the witnesses in the apartment was 22-year-old Brent Vinson, a defensive back with the UT football team.

Vinson gave a statement to police but is not considered a suspect, said KPD Investigator A.J. Loeffler.

"He's just a witness," Loeffler said.

Smith is from Mount Clemens, Mich., and was dismissed last year from the team by UT coach Bruce Pearl. Sources at that time told the News Sentinel that the dismissal resulted from Smith's violation of UT's substance abuse policy and academic shortcomings.

Prior to his dismissal, Smith had been an All-SEC freshman selection. After his departure, Smith had been playing basketball in Europe.

More details as they develop online and in Friday's News Sentinel.

Staff writer J.J. Stambaugh contributed to this story.

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ETNTigerFan writes:

what's wrong with these people. come on man, you have a gift in basketball but you want to do this stupid stuff. I don't care what color jersey you have on, orange or blue, I hate these stories.

mdvol writes:

Let's see......Brent Vinson is friends with Duke Crews. Duke Crews and Ramar Smith were kicked off the basketball team for "violations" of team policy. Brent is hanging out with Ramar. A + B = C.

golfballs03 writes:

racism

johnlg00 writes:

in response to mdvol:

Let's see......Brent Vinson is friends with Duke Crews. Duke Crews and Ramar Smith were kicked off the basketball team for "violations" of team policy. Brent is hanging out with Ramar. A + B = C.

Yeah, bad situation. Without prejudging Vinson, it would seem he needs to try to cultivate a different circle of friends. It would seem to be too late for Ramar. I would hate to see Vinson's name come up in a similar type of story, for his own sake more than for our sakes as Vol fans.

mlynn1 writes:

in response to mdvol:

Let's see......Brent Vinson is friends with Duke Crews. Duke Crews and Ramar Smith were kicked off the basketball team for "violations" of team policy. Brent is hanging out with Ramar. A + B = C.

I failed to read in the article that Bret was hanging out with Ramar. The way I read it, it only states that Bret was a witness and not a suspect. You just can't make sh-- up dummy.

chad_t31 writes:

in response to ETNTigerFan:

what's wrong with these people. come on man, you have a gift in basketball but you want to do this stupid stuff. I don't care what color jersey you have on, orange or blue, I hate these stories.

What gift would that be?? Not that good of a player. Actually surprised the police didn't nab him before he committed the crime...he's THAT slow. In all seriousness, what a lousy decision that was made on his part.

Vol_atile writes:

Brent Vinson, you are so close yet so far. Your whole life starts now. Whatever you do from this point on will matter. If you have to miss out on some "fun", then so be it. In five years the "fun" will only be a memory. You have too much to lose. You've got to ask yourself, do I want to end up having a successful career, be it in the NFL or whatever, or do I want to be like Ramar Smith. The choice is your's.

ETNTigerFan writes:

in response to chad_t31:

What gift would that be?? Not that good of a player. Actually surprised the police didn't nab him before he committed the crime...he's THAT slow. In all seriousness, what a lousy decision that was made on his part.

He's good enough to play in Europe, Freshman All-SEC, and I'll bet he's a heck of a lot better than me! HA!

kevin151 writes:

There's a reason he went to Hargrave.....

utallvol writes:

in response to mlynn1:

I failed to read in the article that Bret was hanging out with Ramar. The way I read it, it only states that Bret was a witness and not a suspect. You just can't make sh-- up dummy.

Yea, K-Town's such a small place everybody knows everybody right. It's just common sense dummy.

Orange4life writes:

in response to mdvol:

Let's see......Brent Vinson is friends with Duke Crews. Duke Crews and Ramar Smith were kicked off the basketball team for "violations" of team policy. Brent is hanging out with Ramar. A + B = C.

let's not point fingers, I does not say they where hanging out, just said witness. Might he live around there, hmmmm

Looks like Ramar's decision making off the court are as bad as the one's on

Good Luck Ramar

asleep#212036 writes:

Apparently BP made the right call last year though questioned at the time by many on this site. Further, my read of the article was the Brett Vinson was a witness only, almost implying he was in the apartment that was being robbed. Still, I agree that he needs to get in a new circle of friends or he too, in the new Kiffin age, will find himself out of a scholarship. Go Vols!!!

pdhuff#552644 writes:

No winners here.

JCforUTVols writes:

in response to golfballs03:

racism

racism?????

nicksjuzunk#646117 writes:

in response to supersmo18:

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In all fairness, the pic is an official one of some sort. He didn't get caught off guard. That styleage was 100% intentional... much like these fine gentlemen.

http://forums.palmettofootballtalk.co...

givehim6 writes:

Hay, I have an idea, I challenge KNS to find stories of former UT athletics that have done positive things with there lives instead of the usual former UT player was arrested,or was sent to prison.

nicksjuzunk#646117 writes:

in response to givehim6:

Hay, I have an idea, I challenge KNS to find stories of former UT athletics that have done positive things with there lives instead of the usual former UT player was arrested,or was sent to prison.

yep. I will not withdraw my plead for some Chuck Webb info until I am fulfilled!!!! I know a bit, but I want some professional journalism dad-blast-it!

TrouserCough writes:

in response to golfballs03:

racism

Funny

back2backchamps writes:

If newspapers quit printing stories about stupid and criminal things that college athletes (or former athletes) do at ALL universties, what would half the posters on here have to comment on? It's either bash the opposing schools or defend "our" coaches great integrity. The buck should stop with the idiot kids that commit the crime, IMO.

DisorientedVol writes:

He should have been arrested for the hair. Go Vols!
Any news on Marve - this article does not deserve too many comments.

DillonJayVols5 writes:

man keep your head up ramar,,,

Vol_Jokes writes:

Just more Vol thugery. More stories over here about vol crimes than about wins. Has to be one of the worst places in the country as far as criminal athletes.
It's a good thing though. Tiger players are made to look like church boys compared to what goes on at UT.

auttat writes:

in response to Vol_Jokes:

Just more Vol thugery. More stories over here about vol crimes than about wins. Has to be one of the worst places in the country as far as criminal athletes.
It's a good thing though. Tiger players are made to look like church boys compared to what goes on at UT.

Good to see Calipari was able to bring in an amazing class. I bet you are stoked

shoalcreekvol writes:

in response to golfballs03:

racism

stupidism

shoalcreekvol writes:

in response to DillonJayVols5:

man keep your head up ramar,,,

,,,cause the cops are coming!

shoalcreekvol writes:

in response to auttat:

Good to see Calipari was able to bring in an amazing class. I bet you are stoked

OOOOOOOOOOUUUUUCCCCCCHHHHHH

That burned

hotrodvol writes:

in response to DisorientedVol:

He should have been arrested for the hair. Go Vols!
Any news on Marve - this article does not deserve too many comments.

Here is a little recruiting info.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/...

bobbarbilly writes:

in response to givehim6:

Hay, I have an idea, I challenge KNS to find stories of former UT athletics that have done positive things with there lives instead of the usual former UT player was arrested,or was sent to prison.

Now that's a good thought right there, that is. Only problem is that negative sells. It would be good however,to mix some positive in with the negative now and then.

crappieking writes:

in response to auttat:

Good to see Calipari was able to bring in an amazing class. I bet you are stoked

VolJokes is a joke. Tigers finish 3rd at best in SuckUSA. UT whips coach pimple face in Memphis, then beats down KY twice. Pearl owns Cal.

vols_sec_1 writes:

in response to DillonJayVols5:

man keep your head up ramar,,,

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mlynn1 writes:

in response to utallvol:

Yea, K-Town's such a small place everybody knows everybody right. It's just common sense dummy.

Common sense to who? I guess you have a sixth sense or something. Maybe you should get a job with CSI!!

Irwin_Linker writes:

in response to Vol_Jokes:

Just more Vol thugery. More stories over here about vol crimes than about wins. Has to be one of the worst places in the country as far as criminal athletes.
It's a good thing though. Tiger players are made to look like church boys compared to what goes on at UT.

Come on man, LSU has some pretty thuggish players.

shoalcreekvol writes:

in response to Witch_Doctor:

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Bones never lie, but like a Tiger at the free throw line they can be guilty of choking...

utallvol writes:

in response to mlynn1:

Common sense to who? I guess you have a sixth sense or something. Maybe you should get a job with CSI!!

No sixth sense just plain old common sense,If you hang out with the wrong crowd something goes down even if you are not involved you could still get in trouble depending on the situation P.S. ask Micheal Vick aka the money man.Just the way things work out here in the real world.Bottom line don't put youself in bad situations.

golfballs03 writes:

in response to shoalcreekvol:

stupidism

sarcasm

abnerPeabody writes:

in response to givehim6:

Hay, I have an idea, I challenge KNS to find stories of former UT athletics that have done positive things with there lives instead of the usual former UT player was arrested,or was sent to prison.

The kns reports news about any sport athelete,be he-she current or past.That is their job.Like it or not.For your information,this story ,almost word for word was on ESPN and my local news stations and newspaper.Everyone is reporting this.Not just the KNS.You do your job and stop worrying about others doing theirs.

Vol_Jokes writes:

Not sure why Vol fans are happy that Cal has recruited well at Kentucky. The joke is on you as much as it is Memphis. The Vols days of playing in a watered down SEC are over. Guess it was fun while it lasted huh? Still, nothing to show for it ..but.. we're talking about the Vol program. Overpayed Pearl will now be exposed and within two years of humiliation Vol fans will love him about as much as they did Fulmer last season. Pearl came along at the right time. The SEC was down and Brucie was made to look good. The fun is over. Kentucky will own the Vols from now on. They'll dominate the SEC.
As far as Memphis, someone said Cal seemed to be recruiting better now that he is at Kentucky? Now that's a strange statement. Memphis had the all time best recruiting class coming in next season. Kentucky just has what Memphis would have had minus Xavier Henry who was coming to Memphis but did not go to Kentucky. Will be interesting to see how the team that Kentucky purchased from Memphis will do next season.
Still, Memphis is a basketball town. We've got a new/young coach who will have to prove himself in order to start winning over some recruits but of course even in their worst years they'll still be better than........I don't even have to say it.

Are you guys taking up some bail money for Ramar? Save some for the football players.

shoalcreekvol writes:

in response to golfballs03:

sarcasm

emoticon

ULTIMATEVOLUNTEER writes:

Fulmer's fault

VolFanNC writes:

Somehow ESPN will spin this as Kiffin's fault....

rockytopatl writes:

in response to supersmo18:

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Say what? They need to find a better picture of him with better hair? This ain't no fashion shot! It's not their job to make hom look pretty! It's a newspaper!

BigOrangeVol writes:

Buckwheat!!!
That little rascal broke into someone's apartment?
When he turned himself in to the KDP did he say, "Oh-tay, here I is"?

You were one of the Top 12 Shooting Guards in the country coming out of MLK high school in Detroit. What happened to Oklahoma City University, TSU and MTSU? Only played three games for ZS Koszalin in Poland? What about the two games with the teckpro Braves in Germany; that didn't work out either? Maybe the Brushy Mountain State Cons have a spot open on their roster!

Now you're looking at no probation and 3-15 years in prison. Geez Louise Ramar you're 22 years old, get a haircut and grow up! This type of activity is beyond stupid.

rocky_topper writes:

Better keep your house locked-up tight tonight if he's out!

Mr_Brownstone writes:

run forrest run - uh hum run ramar run!!!

Mr_Brownstone writes:

kid -n- play lives on.

sigmundoooz#264365 writes:

Surveillance camera from the scene.

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/84...

gatorzwearstebowpanties writes:

in response to Vol_Jokes:

Not sure why Vol fans are happy that Cal has recruited well at Kentucky. The joke is on you as much as it is Memphis. The Vols days of playing in a watered down SEC are over. Guess it was fun while it lasted huh? Still, nothing to show for it ..but.. we're talking about the Vol program. Overpayed Pearl will now be exposed and within two years of humiliation Vol fans will love him about as much as they did Fulmer last season. Pearl came along at the right time. The SEC was down and Brucie was made to look good. The fun is over. Kentucky will own the Vols from now on. They'll dominate the SEC.
As far as Memphis, someone said Cal seemed to be recruiting better now that he is at Kentucky? Now that's a strange statement. Memphis had the all time best recruiting class coming in next season. Kentucky just has what Memphis would have had minus Xavier Henry who was coming to Memphis but did not go to Kentucky. Will be interesting to see how the team that Kentucky purchased from Memphis will do next season.
Still, Memphis is a basketball town. We've got a new/young coach who will have to prove himself in order to start winning over some recruits but of course even in their worst years they'll still be better than........I don't even have to say it.

Are you guys taking up some bail money for Ramar? Save some for the football players.

You are the joke. Also an idiot. You say the SEC was down when Pearl came along. The Gators won the National Championship after Pearl came along you idiot

101st_AIRBORNE_VOL (Inactive) writes:

in response to sigmundoooz#264365:

Surveillance camera from the scene.

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/84...

Oh lord I almost shart myself!

VolGraduate writes:

in response to BolivarBob:

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I agree. That is the most likely scenario...LOL

TommyJack writes:

Key phrase: EX-Vol.

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