A drumbeat for SEC coach of the year

News Sentinel blogger Michael Silence hears a drumbeat: Lane Kiffin for Southeastern Conference football coach of the year.

He's found the drum beaters.

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NoMoreWooAfterGoodOleRockyTop writes:

Just ask BP if CLK will get SEC COY.

VolHooch42 writes:

A win at Oxford should seal the deal and rightfully so.

GO VOLS!

rocky_topper writes:

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Bloodrunzorange writes:

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You are right there at the top Shelia!

windy writes:

in response to DaMan:

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Get a life. You certainly don't have one on this blog. Just leave in the dust of the Tennessee Vols.

VolunteerLifer writes:

in response to DaMan:

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Well, there's good news today for gator fans!!!

Navy beat Notre Dame this weekend. That increases the likelihood that urbancryer will leave at the end of this season, and finally put an end to the five year embarrasment of gators everywhere by their low class, whining, excuse making, trashy coach.

illinoisvolfan writes:

in response to DaMan:

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One reason our country has so much stupidity is because we allow people like you to have access to computers.

Cldvols1 writes:

SEC COY should go to the new "Mouth of the South", especially if the Vols win out. GBO!!!

oldvolsfan writes:

The slieveslim will not allow this to happen
his name is not saban or myere

commonsense32 writes:

in response to DaMan:

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You sir are correct in your asumptions that the VOLS will have probably 8 and maybe 9 players drafted in the next NFL draft which in itself in a major accomplishment. That being said you try with your warped logic to explain that these guys were just "that good", which if that was true then we would be sitting with a much better W/L record for 2006,2007,2008. The problem lies in the fact that these "great" players weren't coached to their abilities or potential until this year. Kiffin and company have taken great talent and turned them around and made them capable of being drafted in the NFL. I think Cheney deserves as much credit for the turn around of this offense and especially Jon Crompton as anyone. He is an offensive genious, and he along with Lane developed a system that works for the type of players we have. So before you spout off why don't you look at the whole picture. I will concur that Fulmer, and most of all the UT brand got the quality talent in, the problem was he and his staff forgot that players no matter how great have to be coached, disciplined, and managed. I will even go as far to say that in 1998 coaching had very little to do with that magical year as the immesurable heart of leaders like AL Wilson Raynoch Thompson, and Eric Westmoreland along with others were responsible for the outcome of that season. As was evidenced in 2001 when we were clearly the most talented team in the country, but no coaching and no heart lead to disaster. So saying that why don't you think before you speak?

Cldvols1 writes:

in response to DaMan:

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For you to come on this site just to try to stir some stuff up shows me that your an insecure individual who has a little bit of jealousy, envy and strife toward the direction the UT program is headed. Booyah B*tch! Go Vols!!!

Hacksaw57 writes:

Slive and the "powers to be" in the SEC will NEVER allow CLK to be the SEC Coach of the Year.
He has ruffeled too many feathers on the "old crow's" back.

WLafIndianavol writes:

in response to DaMan:

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Da(Stupid)Man,

Do you have a job?

You are a great example of the stupidity in this country!

gslaton#227127 writes:

The single greatest thing that LK has done is turning Jonathan Crompton into a big-time QB. There have been other successes with players, but none so clear as with Crompton. And, frankly, while many on this site called for Stephens to play. Crompton's turnaround has, it seems to me, singlehandedly turned this team around. When any team is successful, you never hear the sportswriters, etc. say it was because the right guard learned how to pass block! CLK deserves COY for JC alone!! Good Luck and win out Vols.

Docrok writes:

in response to DaMan:

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I forgot dude, when is the last time Fulmer beat FL or AL? Whats his record against Mark Richt, Les Miles, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, hell even Tommy Tuberville?? His best record is against Richt who he was like 3 and 5 against! Not exactly all inspiring! And again for the special ed students, this draft year just so happens to be Fulmer's players! And write it down and post in your forehead, TN will get at least 5 drafted this year to include at least one first rounder possibly two. EB and probably Dan Williams will be first rounders! Rico McCoy, Montario Hardesty, and Chris Scott will also get drafted! Additionally possibly J. McClendon could get drafted!

carlsusanellis#574472 writes:

Coach LK should be coach of the year if they win out, but if I had a farm I would bet it that the winner of Fl and AL will be the SEC coach of the year.

the_1_don#407478 writes:

in response to DaMan:

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You sir, are a moron! I don't think that you have ever said anything that was the least bit intelligent! Idiot! Go put on your Teblow panties and play inside yourself! lol

volpreacher writes:

While I would love to see CLK win coach of year and think he deserves it more than anyone, we forget that Chizek at Auburn is doing really well too. The choice should be of those two. We do know that Chizek had more to help him but either way, my vote is CLK. Go Vols, 8-4 but one at a time.

tfortennessee writes:

On another coaching note, Communist Appeal reporting Tommy West fired as tiger high coach. Hate it for a Vol. But he is probably better off.

shopsports#273141 writes:

Are you kidding? The other SEC coaches are much too jealous of the Kiffin Group to vote him COY.
Look at the contrast....It makes them all want to puke. First, 34 years old crushes their ego. Then, he gives half the 5mil that Satan and UrbanWhinner, keep for them selves, to the other coaches.....IE...defense. To top that off with the big fat cherry, he is from the pros, brings in pro coaches, and god forbid, puts TN right back on the map to beating their arses!!!!

rclarkfork#639958 writes:

in response to DaMan:

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It's amazing that one poster can continuously show how little know they know. If Tenn. wins out and gets a New Years day bowl, Kiffin should win the award hands down. Will he? Doubtful with the politics that go on in college football.

dvols writes:

uhhh no......

RockyTopRenegade writes:

West fired

AFVol423 writes:

in response to commonsense32:

You sir are correct in your asumptions that the VOLS will have probably 8 and maybe 9 players drafted in the next NFL draft which in itself in a major accomplishment. That being said you try with your warped logic to explain that these guys were just "that good", which if that was true then we would be sitting with a much better W/L record for 2006,2007,2008. The problem lies in the fact that these "great" players weren't coached to their abilities or potential until this year. Kiffin and company have taken great talent and turned them around and made them capable of being drafted in the NFL. I think Cheney deserves as much credit for the turn around of this offense and especially Jon Crompton as anyone. He is an offensive genious, and he along with Lane developed a system that works for the type of players we have. So before you spout off why don't you look at the whole picture. I will concur that Fulmer, and most of all the UT brand got the quality talent in, the problem was he and his staff forgot that players no matter how great have to be coached, disciplined, and managed. I will even go as far to say that in 1998 coaching had very little to do with that magical year as the immesurable heart of leaders like AL Wilson Raynoch Thompson, and Eric Westmoreland along with others were responsible for the outcome of that season. As was evidenced in 2001 when we were clearly the most talented team in the country, but no coaching and no heart lead to disaster. So saying that why don't you think before you speak?

Nice answer. Kudos

DC_Vol writes:

in response to commonsense32:

You sir are correct in your asumptions that the VOLS will have probably 8 and maybe 9 players drafted in the next NFL draft which in itself in a major accomplishment. That being said you try with your warped logic to explain that these guys were just "that good", which if that was true then we would be sitting with a much better W/L record for 2006,2007,2008. The problem lies in the fact that these "great" players weren't coached to their abilities or potential until this year. Kiffin and company have taken great talent and turned them around and made them capable of being drafted in the NFL. I think Cheney deserves as much credit for the turn around of this offense and especially Jon Crompton as anyone. He is an offensive genious, and he along with Lane developed a system that works for the type of players we have. So before you spout off why don't you look at the whole picture. I will concur that Fulmer, and most of all the UT brand got the quality talent in, the problem was he and his staff forgot that players no matter how great have to be coached, disciplined, and managed. I will even go as far to say that in 1998 coaching had very little to do with that magical year as the immesurable heart of leaders like AL Wilson Raynoch Thompson, and Eric Westmoreland along with others were responsible for the outcome of that season. As was evidenced in 2001 when we were clearly the most talented team in the country, but no coaching and no heart lead to disaster. So saying that why don't you think before you speak?

GReat post commonsense!

Kiffin and his assistant coaches (NFL experience) clearly have developed the very little talent left by Fulmer. Cheney and Kiffin have done an outstanding job of developing Jonathon Crompton and several first year players. Recruits will take notice of the improvement made by Jonathon Crompton this year. From four year "Dud" to first year "Stud".

I really believe we will have a top five recruiting class and maybe even number one. Kiffin has done so much more with less. Urban Meyer has done less with more. Tebow's stats are down this year especially passing statistics and TD's, if you do not include their two scrimmages to begin the season.

I believe Kiffin will win coach of the year unless Saban wins. I can accept Saban winning because you can see he is improving his overall teams play unlike Meyer who just runs and develops one offensive player to win the games for him. UF's WR crew is obviously underperforming with all the talent they receive every year just by playing in Florida. Kirk Herbstreet ripped Meyer for UF's poor WR's performance on college gameday a few weeks ago.

Voluvr writes:

DL Uku committed this morning.

kman29 writes:

in response to DC_Vol:

GReat post commonsense!

Kiffin and his assistant coaches (NFL experience) clearly have developed the very little talent left by Fulmer. Cheney and Kiffin have done an outstanding job of developing Jonathon Crompton and several first year players. Recruits will take notice of the improvement made by Jonathon Crompton this year. From four year "Dud" to first year "Stud".

I really believe we will have a top five recruiting class and maybe even number one. Kiffin has done so much more with less. Urban Meyer has done less with more. Tebow's stats are down this year especially passing statistics and TD's, if you do not include their two scrimmages to begin the season.

I believe Kiffin will win coach of the year unless Saban wins. I can accept Saban winning because you can see he is improving his overall teams play unlike Meyer who just runs and develops one offensive player to win the games for him. UF's WR crew is obviously underperforming with all the talent they receive every year just by playing in Florida. Kirk Herbstreet ripped Meyer for UF's poor WR's performance on college gameday a few weeks ago.

Drama Queen,

Your hatred for Florida has you so blind that now your even trying to hype up Alabama as improving better on offense than Florida when they just went a stretch of 12 qtrs. with only 1 offensive TD. lol! I do love this perception people like you have as if the entire offense is only Tebow....amazingly not sure how these guys have the following numbers then..

Rushing:
Jeff Demps 545 rushing 6 TDs
Chris Rainey 395 rushing 3 TDs
Emmanuel Moody 327 rushing

Receiving:
Aaron Hernandez 540 receiving 2 TDs
Riley Cooper 481 receiving 5 TDs

Florida's offensive production in the past has it to the point where you think this is bad offense. 3 key running backs and 2 key receivers. Check out the info on your "ever improving" Bama offense and find better. As for WRs that Meyer has developed at Florida

Andre Caldwell (starter in Cincinnati)
Percy Harvin (starter in Minnesota)
Louis Murphy (starter in Oakland)
Dallas Baker (Backup in Pittsburgh)

Yeah I guess they are pretty ill prepared for life in the NFL playing for Meyer, especially the guy who will be the 2009 rookie of the year (Harvin). lol!

SIMSVOL writes:

DaMan clearly has personal issues.
Get a life man. Tennessee is back - live with it. And Crompton has quickly become the QB of the SEC- thanks to Kiffin and his staff. And of course Crompton's talent, which Kiffin knew was there all along.

Weatherman writes:

If we run the table, I could see him winning the SEC coach of the year...heck, vandy was a cowinner last year.

bill#1374014 writes:

in response to commonsense32:

You sir are correct in your asumptions that the VOLS will have probably 8 and maybe 9 players drafted in the next NFL draft which in itself in a major accomplishment. That being said you try with your warped logic to explain that these guys were just "that good", which if that was true then we would be sitting with a much better W/L record for 2006,2007,2008. The problem lies in the fact that these "great" players weren't coached to their abilities or potential until this year. Kiffin and company have taken great talent and turned them around and made them capable of being drafted in the NFL. I think Cheney deserves as much credit for the turn around of this offense and especially Jon Crompton as anyone. He is an offensive genious, and he along with Lane developed a system that works for the type of players we have. So before you spout off why don't you look at the whole picture. I will concur that Fulmer, and most of all the UT brand got the quality talent in, the problem was he and his staff forgot that players no matter how great have to be coached, disciplined, and managed. I will even go as far to say that in 1998 coaching had very little to do with that magical year as the immesurable heart of leaders like AL Wilson Raynoch Thompson, and Eric Westmoreland along with others were responsible for the outcome of that season. As was evidenced in 2001 when we were clearly the most talented team in the country, but no coaching and no heart lead to disaster. So saying that why don't you think before you speak?

You forgot about Miami in 2001, they were the best.

99gator writes:

i think at this point the following can be said.

1. so far, the kiffin hire has been a complete success.

the team has shown improvement throughout the year, and not just crompton. not to mention, that the level of improvement from crompton has been a minor miracle. there is an optimism and confidence about the program that was not there previously.

2. tennessee has separated itself from the other SEC East competitors.

while florida may be the current beast of the east, tennessee has made it clear that they will have to be reckoned with in the future. they have also let it be known by woodshedding georgia and south carolina. two programs that have had coaches in place long enough that they are playing with their recruits. that being said, georgia and south carolina did not belong on the same field as tennessee.

3. i don't know who will end up with what players. all i know is that florida is competing more with tennessee for recruits they are after than any other school. not georgia, not florida state, not miami, but tennessee.

that is a testament for how hard they are working. one can say that tennessee has the opportunity to sell playing time that others don't. that may be true, but other schools can offer that same sales pitch and they are not having the same success as tennessee.

hats off to kiffin. it looks like florida-tennessee will be THE game in the SEC East in the future.

DC_Vol writes:

in response to kman29:

Drama Queen,

Your hatred for Florida has you so blind that now your even trying to hype up Alabama as improving better on offense than Florida when they just went a stretch of 12 qtrs. with only 1 offensive TD. lol! I do love this perception people like you have as if the entire offense is only Tebow....amazingly not sure how these guys have the following numbers then..

Rushing:
Jeff Demps 545 rushing 6 TDs
Chris Rainey 395 rushing 3 TDs
Emmanuel Moody 327 rushing

Receiving:
Aaron Hernandez 540 receiving 2 TDs
Riley Cooper 481 receiving 5 TDs

Florida's offensive production in the past has it to the point where you think this is bad offense. 3 key running backs and 2 key receivers. Check out the info on your "ever improving" Bama offense and find better. As for WRs that Meyer has developed at Florida

Andre Caldwell (starter in Cincinnati)
Percy Harvin (starter in Minnesota)
Louis Murphy (starter in Oakland)
Dallas Baker (Backup in Pittsburgh)

Yeah I guess they are pretty ill prepared for life in the NFL playing for Meyer, especially the guy who will be the 2009 rookie of the year (Harvin). lol!

KMAN,

You are always try to spin inflated stats or exagerate your statistics without telling the full story. Two reasons your statistics are false once again.

Charleston Southern

Troy

Season GP Rating Att Comp Pct Yds TD INT Att Yds TD
2006 UF 14 201.7 33 22 66.7 358 5 1 89 469 8
2007 UF 13 172.5 350 234 66.9 3286 32 6 210 895 23
2008 UF 14 172.4 298 192 64.4 2747 30 4 176 673 12
2009 UF 8 153.7 153 99 64.7 1323 10 4 139 551 8

KMAN just stop already this should shut you up once and for all. Tebow and the WR of UF despite the best recruiting classes year after year have become worse under Meyer from 2006 to present. Tebow has eleven total touchdowns after nine games. I believe more than half of that total is against Troy and Charleston Southern. Again this is not Tebow's fault, it Meyer's fault for only developing one player on offense. Every year Tebow's passing yards and Touchdowns have declined. Heck the Touchdown in the Vanderbilt game was a deflection and shouldn't even count.

TommyJack writes:

in response to 99gator:

i think at this point the following can be said.

1. so far, the kiffin hire has been a complete success.

the team has shown improvement throughout the year, and not just crompton. not to mention, that the level of improvement from crompton has been a minor miracle. there is an optimism and confidence about the program that was not there previously.

2. tennessee has separated itself from the other SEC East competitors.

while florida may be the current beast of the east, tennessee has made it clear that they will have to be reckoned with in the future. they have also let it be known by woodshedding georgia and south carolina. two programs that have had coaches in place long enough that they are playing with their recruits. that being said, georgia and south carolina did not belong on the same field as tennessee.

3. i don't know who will end up with what players. all i know is that florida is competing more with tennessee for recruits they are after than any other school. not georgia, not florida state, not miami, but tennessee.

that is a testament for how hard they are working. one can say that tennessee has the opportunity to sell playing time that others don't. that may be true, but other schools can offer that same sales pitch and they are not having the same success as tennessee.

hats off to kiffin. it looks like florida-tennessee will be THE game in the SEC East in the future.

99. The only real gator on this board.

99gator writes:

in response to TommyJack:

99. The only real gator on this board.

i'm going to be honest when i post.

i haven't said a lot of positive things about tennessee in the past, not because it was fun to bash tennessee or anything.....but, because there wasn't a lot of positive things to say about tennessee football in the recent past.

well, there are definitely some positive things to say about tennessee football in the present.

any fan, rival fan or not, that tries to deny that is fooling themselves.

NobodyCares (Inactive) writes:

in response to kman29:

Drama Queen,

Your hatred for Florida has you so blind that now your even trying to hype up Alabama as improving better on offense than Florida when they just went a stretch of 12 qtrs. with only 1 offensive TD. lol! I do love this perception people like you have as if the entire offense is only Tebow....amazingly not sure how these guys have the following numbers then..

Rushing:
Jeff Demps 545 rushing 6 TDs
Chris Rainey 395 rushing 3 TDs
Emmanuel Moody 327 rushing

Receiving:
Aaron Hernandez 540 receiving 2 TDs
Riley Cooper 481 receiving 5 TDs

Florida's offensive production in the past has it to the point where you think this is bad offense. 3 key running backs and 2 key receivers. Check out the info on your "ever improving" Bama offense and find better. As for WRs that Meyer has developed at Florida

Andre Caldwell (starter in Cincinnati)
Percy Harvin (starter in Minnesota)
Louis Murphy (starter in Oakland)
Dallas Baker (Backup in Pittsburgh)

Yeah I guess they are pretty ill prepared for life in the NFL playing for Meyer, especially the guy who will be the 2009 rookie of the year (Harvin). lol!

LOL! C'mon lil' kboy, why do you continually distort your statistics? At least be honest. How can you talk about UF rushing stats without flashing your one-trick-pony Timbow and without listing number of carries?

Florida Rushing:
Tim Tebow 155 Carries 578 Yards 9 TDs
Jeff Demps 70 Carries 545 Yards 6 TDs
Chris Rainey 61 Carries 392 Yards 3 TDs
Emmanuel Moody 47 Carries 327 Yards 0 TDs

(Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teams/s...

@ 2:32 PM on 11/9/09)

When your QB has more carries than the total of the next two RBs, it shows lack of confidence in the UF ground game. If those other 10 guys on your offense were really doing their jobs your QB would not have to carry the ball so often.

Yah, the UF offense is a real juggernaut that strikes fear in the soul of mortal men ... as long as you have Timbow! LOL!

VolunteerLifer writes:

in response to 99gator:

i'm going to be honest when i post.

i haven't said a lot of positive things about tennessee in the past, not because it was fun to bash tennessee or anything.....but, because there wasn't a lot of positive things to say about tennessee football in the recent past.

well, there are definitely some positive things to say about tennessee football in the present.

any fan, rival fan or not, that tries to deny that is fooling themselves.

"Any fan, rival fan or not, that tries to deny that is fooling themselves."

99 gator, please allow me to introduce kman, dcten..., DeltaCharlie, etc. to you. Please let them know that. They seem unaware of the obvious.

CrankE writes:

Just win, baby.

(Or if you're a Gatroll that's, "Just baby whine.")

DC_Vol writes:

in response to NobodyCares:

LOL! C'mon lil' kboy, why do you continually distort your statistics? At least be honest. How can you talk about UF rushing stats without flashing your one-trick-pony Timbow and without listing number of carries?

Florida Rushing:
Tim Tebow 155 Carries 578 Yards 9 TDs
Jeff Demps 70 Carries 545 Yards 6 TDs
Chris Rainey 61 Carries 392 Yards 3 TDs
Emmanuel Moody 47 Carries 327 Yards 0 TDs

(Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teams/s...

@ 2:32 PM on 11/9/09)

When your QB has more carries than the total of the next two RBs, it shows lack of confidence in the UF ground game. If those other 10 guys on your offense were really doing their jobs your QB would not have to carry the ball so often.

Yah, the UF offense is a real juggernaut that strikes fear in the soul of mortal men ... as long as you have Timbow! LOL!

Great post Nobody Cares,

Thanks I just showed the reduction in the passing game from 2006 through 2009. Thanks for providing the rushing side. I just want to put this to rest once and for all. Tebow one of the greatest college players of all time has seen his passing stats deteriorate each year under Meyer. The average passing stats per game is
2007 253 yards per game 32 touchdowns for the season
2008 196 yards per game 30 touchdowns for the season
2009 153 yards per game 11 touchdowns for the season after nine games. Half the these passing touchdowns are against Charles Southern and Troy. If you take out the passing yards against these two, the yards per game go down to about 125 to 130 per game.

All I am saying is don't blame Tebow. There is something wrong with the developement of talent by Meyer at the WR position. KMAN came on here at the beginnning of the year and basically said they were all five star WR recruits. Well they haven't performed like three star recruits. Meyer is the common denominator is ultimately responsible for the poor Florida WR play this year. Period! How come Kirk Hirbstreet is the only one talking about the decline in the Florida passing attack!!!

kman29 writes:

in response to DC_Vol:

KMAN,

You are always try to spin inflated stats or exagerate your statistics without telling the full story. Two reasons your statistics are false once again.

Charleston Southern

Troy

Season GP Rating Att Comp Pct Yds TD INT Att Yds TD
2006 UF 14 201.7 33 22 66.7 358 5 1 89 469 8
2007 UF 13 172.5 350 234 66.9 3286 32 6 210 895 23
2008 UF 14 172.4 298 192 64.4 2747 30 4 176 673 12
2009 UF 8 153.7 153 99 64.7 1323 10 4 139 551 8

KMAN just stop already this should shut you up once and for all. Tebow and the WR of UF despite the best recruiting classes year after year have become worse under Meyer from 2006 to present. Tebow has eleven total touchdowns after nine games. I believe more than half of that total is against Troy and Charleston Southern. Again this is not Tebow's fault, it Meyer's fault for only developing one player on offense. Every year Tebow's passing yards and Touchdowns have declined. Heck the Touchdown in the Vanderbilt game was a deflection and shouldn't even count.

Are you really that dense? Yes Tebow's numbers were less in 2008 than in 2007. You know why? Its called in 2008 UF found legit RBs in Demps and Rainey. 2009 numbers are less than 2008 because its a fact that they lost 2 WRs who are starting in the NFL right now (But Meyer can't develop them). Add into the fact that 2 other WRs that UF thought would be contributors as starters (Carl Moore, Andre Debose) have not played a down and are redshirting because of injuries. Now your left with one proven productive WR (Cooper) and a proven future 1st round pick TE (Hernandez). Behind them, unproven sophmore (Thompson) and redshirt freshman (Hines, Hammond, Lawerance). And right now, I don't think Meyer is going to put unproven freshman in position to make a critical error on a team who is #1 and undefeated. So this years team is a dominant running team, with defense and can pass when they need to. Yet in your eyes an Alabama team who has a far better WR than anyone on the UF roster (Julio Jones) and has barely been used, is far more rounded and developing. lol!

But even with all that, you still can't dispute the fact that 3 WRs are starting in the NFL that played for Meyer over the last 3-4 seasons. And while this year has been down in terms of WR production compared to others, next year and on as those freshman and sophmores develope there will be a new crop of WRs going to the NFL.

kman29 writes:

in response to NobodyCares:

LOL! C'mon lil' kboy, why do you continually distort your statistics? At least be honest. How can you talk about UF rushing stats without flashing your one-trick-pony Timbow and without listing number of carries?

Florida Rushing:
Tim Tebow 155 Carries 578 Yards 9 TDs
Jeff Demps 70 Carries 545 Yards 6 TDs
Chris Rainey 61 Carries 392 Yards 3 TDs
Emmanuel Moody 47 Carries 327 Yards 0 TDs

(Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teams/s...

@ 2:32 PM on 11/9/09)

When your QB has more carries than the total of the next two RBs, it shows lack of confidence in the UF ground game. If those other 10 guys on your offense were really doing their jobs your QB would not have to carry the ball so often.

Yah, the UF offense is a real juggernaut that strikes fear in the soul of mortal men ... as long as you have Timbow! LOL!

I was responding to a post that said the Florida offense is one player. I didn't feel the need to bring up that one player in referencing the fact that UF has more than one player, but since you did.

Yes, Tebow has rushed for 578 yards. That one player has 32 more rushing yards than the 2nd leading rusher. Those 32 yards make him the only player? Or do we just simply ignore the other 1264 rushing yards combined by those 3 running backs?

As for the QB having more carries. Ok, I understand this is hard to realize, but UF runs a Spread OPTION! The QB is a consistant part of the option game, no different than Georgia Tech with their triple option (still find it amusing there is no call for why GTs QB runs so much) add in the fact that UF plays 3 RBs in rotation, its not all that ridiculous that the one player who touches the ball on every play, has more rushing attempts than 3 other RBs who split time with each other throughout the game.

By the way, the "lack of confidence" in the UF ground game has UF as the SEC's #1 rushing team along with one of the top rushing teams in the country (they were #1 for a while).

Nobody ever said this year's offense is a juggernaut. It is what it is. When they need a drive to score, they can do it. Other wise, they manage the game, limit errors and utilize special teams and one of the best defenses in the country to win games. Fans like yourself just can't accept that because its Florida and they are supposed to throw it around all over the field.

9-0! #1 in every poll! Only stat that matters

Southland writes:

nah dont agree with it To many bad coaching decisions at the first of the season SEE THE UCLA game. But he is doing a great job now. Now, Coach Cutcliffe should get the ACC coach of the year hands down if he can sneak out one more win which isnt likely

bigorange61 writes:

in response to kman29:

I was responding to a post that said the Florida offense is one player. I didn't feel the need to bring up that one player in referencing the fact that UF has more than one player, but since you did.

Yes, Tebow has rushed for 578 yards. That one player has 32 more rushing yards than the 2nd leading rusher. Those 32 yards make him the only player? Or do we just simply ignore the other 1264 rushing yards combined by those 3 running backs?

As for the QB having more carries. Ok, I understand this is hard to realize, but UF runs a Spread OPTION! The QB is a consistant part of the option game, no different than Georgia Tech with their triple option (still find it amusing there is no call for why GTs QB runs so much) add in the fact that UF plays 3 RBs in rotation, its not all that ridiculous that the one player who touches the ball on every play, has more rushing attempts than 3 other RBs who split time with each other throughout the game.

By the way, the "lack of confidence" in the UF ground game has UF as the SEC's #1 rushing team along with one of the top rushing teams in the country (they were #1 for a while).

Nobody ever said this year's offense is a juggernaut. It is what it is. When they need a drive to score, they can do it. Other wise, they manage the game, limit errors and utilize special teams and one of the best defenses in the country to win games. Fans like yourself just can't accept that because its Florida and they are supposed to throw it around all over the field.

9-0! #1 in every poll! Only stat that matters

Kman, when you use facts, and drop the condescending tone, you make a good case. Well done.

kman29 writes:

in response to DC_Vol:

Great post Nobody Cares,

Thanks I just showed the reduction in the passing game from 2006 through 2009. Thanks for providing the rushing side. I just want to put this to rest once and for all. Tebow one of the greatest college players of all time has seen his passing stats deteriorate each year under Meyer. The average passing stats per game is
2007 253 yards per game 32 touchdowns for the season
2008 196 yards per game 30 touchdowns for the season
2009 153 yards per game 11 touchdowns for the season after nine games. Half the these passing touchdowns are against Charles Southern and Troy. If you take out the passing yards against these two, the yards per game go down to about 125 to 130 per game.

All I am saying is don't blame Tebow. There is something wrong with the developement of talent by Meyer at the WR position. KMAN came on here at the beginnning of the year and basically said they were all five star WR recruits. Well they haven't performed like three star recruits. Meyer is the common denominator is ultimately responsible for the poor Florida WR play this year. Period! How come Kirk Hirbstreet is the only one talking about the decline in the Florida passing attack!!!

Once again...

WRs Developed by Meyer:

Percy Harvin
Louis Murphy
Andre Caldwell

Tell those NFL teams starting them they aren't developed. lol!

Love how much negativity fans like yourself try to find with Florida. UF being 9-0 and having won 19 in a row just flat out hurts you I guess, especially when fans like yourself predicted UF would already have 2 losses at this point because they couldn't handle the pressure of being #1.

November 9th, still #1, while your hoping for coach of the year awards for being 5-4.

volboy81 writes:

in response to oldvolsfan:

The slieveslim will not allow this to happen
his name is not saban or myere

youre not kidding! Sliveslim needs to be kicked out along with all the SEC refs! Did you hear Rogers Redding, head SEC official, said the SEC has "Had a good year." If this is his good, Id hate to see his bad!

kman29 writes:

in response to bigorange61:

Kman, when you use facts, and drop the condescending tone, you make a good case. Well done.

Obviously I know somethings I type are annoying for others to read and sound condescending. Do I do it on purpose? Sometimes...other times I just have differing opinions that obviously are more slanted toward my bias of Florida which a Vol fan wont accept, the same that Vol fans will give their biased opinion that I wont accept. Its what makes rivalries fun. And as I've repeatedly said in here, I certainly hope that nobody takes anything said from anybody on here to heart. Its a bunch of trash talking from people that do not impact anything that happens on saturday. And a game!

the10sevol writes:

happy anniversary, gators!

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/2...

30 years ago...seems like yesterday. love the comments by scott brantley, the gators went winless "on purpose"?!?!?

GBO

DC_Vol writes:

in response to kman29:

I was responding to a post that said the Florida offense is one player. I didn't feel the need to bring up that one player in referencing the fact that UF has more than one player, but since you did.

Yes, Tebow has rushed for 578 yards. That one player has 32 more rushing yards than the 2nd leading rusher. Those 32 yards make him the only player? Or do we just simply ignore the other 1264 rushing yards combined by those 3 running backs?

As for the QB having more carries. Ok, I understand this is hard to realize, but UF runs a Spread OPTION! The QB is a consistant part of the option game, no different than Georgia Tech with their triple option (still find it amusing there is no call for why GTs QB runs so much) add in the fact that UF plays 3 RBs in rotation, its not all that ridiculous that the one player who touches the ball on every play, has more rushing attempts than 3 other RBs who split time with each other throughout the game.

By the way, the "lack of confidence" in the UF ground game has UF as the SEC's #1 rushing team along with one of the top rushing teams in the country (they were #1 for a while).

Nobody ever said this year's offense is a juggernaut. It is what it is. When they need a drive to score, they can do it. Other wise, they manage the game, limit errors and utilize special teams and one of the best defenses in the country to win games. Fans like yourself just can't accept that because its Florida and they are supposed to throw it around all over the field.

9-0! #1 in every poll! Only stat that matters

Isn't that the same spread offense you claimed New Engalnd's Tom Brady was running???? Wow, I guess Tim Tebow is a better QB because he has more rushing yards than Tom Brady running the same spread offense in New England.

Bellicheck thought he was running a pro set with a RB and TE and sometimes two TE's. Occasionally he might throw in a WR set, but the majority of the time he ran an NFL style offense. Hey Kman, Bellicheck is wondering if you can call him and explain to him how his offense works. He realizes you know way more about football than he does.

kman29 writes:

in response to DC_Vol:

Isn't that the same spread offense you claimed New Engalnd's Tom Brady was running???? Wow, I guess Tim Tebow is a better QB because he has more rushing yards than Tom Brady running the same spread offense in New England.

Bellicheck thought he was running a pro set with a RB and TE and sometimes two TE's. Occasionally he might throw in a WR set, but the majority of the time he ran an NFL style offense. Hey Kman, Bellicheck is wondering if you can call him and explain to him how his offense works. He realizes you know way more about football than he does.

Even your fellow Vol fans just read that and cringed at the thought that one of their own just typed that.

I will make this simple for you. Not sure exactly where you're trying to go with this and the crazy tangent you just went on, but do this. Google, spread offense, and Google Spread Option offense. While New England, along with other NFL teams like New Orleans run versions of a spread offense (an offense that utilizes 4 to 5 WR sets in the shotgun, doesn't mean they run option) they do not, or have I ever said they run the Spread Option offense (UFs offense) (unless they run that stupid wildcat play).

Secondly, if you can't or do not know how to spell a coaches name correctly, don't reference him. It's Belichick.

SmokeyHound writes:

yes!!! im all for it!!!

DC_Vol writes:

in response to kman29:

Even your fellow Vol fans just read that and cringed at the thought that one of their own just typed that.

I will make this simple for you. Not sure exactly where you're trying to go with this and the crazy tangent you just went on, but do this. Google, spread offense, and Google Spread Option offense. While New England, along with other NFL teams like New Orleans run versions of a spread offense (an offense that utilizes 4 to 5 WR sets in the shotgun, doesn't mean they run option) they do not, or have I ever said they run the Spread Option offense (UFs offense) (unless they run that stupid wildcat play).

Secondly, if you can't or do not know how to spell a coaches name correctly, don't reference him. It's Belichick.

Kman,

You did claim Belichick ran the spread. Don't make me pull up your silly response from weeks ago.

You still have never addressed the reduction in Tebow's performance both passing and running. In all your posts you act like there is no reduction in passing stats or touchdowns. I have posted several times and you never respond you just dodge the truth and bring up something else.

I am tired because I site statistics and you never respond to the actual statistics which clearly slow a decline in Tebows performance the last two years. KMAN you would never acknowledged the statistics because you would have to admit a decline in Florida's offense and coaching.

I think Tebow is one of the greatest players in NCAA a football, but something has caused the decline in the UF offense. I have posted that I think WR play and coaching are responsible, but you never answer the question of why Tebow's passing touchdowns are down 50% and his passing statistics are significantly down. You act like nothing has changed and the UF offense is still as potent. It really isn't!!! How do you address the fact, that Kirk Hirbstreet ripped on UF's poor wide receiver play. Articles are written by the media discussing how this offense has declined from 2007 and 2008. I just want you for once to admit the UF decline.

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