Tennessee's rebuilding progress arrested for the moment

Kiffin on football players' arrests: To paraphrase, "No comment."

Victims of attempted armed robbery speak about the experience

Screenshot of WVLT VolunteerTV exclusive video of the arrests early Thursday morning. Three University of Tennessee football players and a woman were jailed on charges of attempted armed robbery.

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Screenshot of WVLT VolunteerTV exclusive video of the arrests early Thursday morning. Three University of Tennessee football players and a woman were jailed on charges of attempted armed robbery.

— The arrest of three Tennessee football players on attempted armed robbery charges is proving to be a test of character -- for coach Lane Kiffin, not the players.

Kiffin's actions in this incident, the first player police blotter and who knows how many controversies into his tenure as Tennessee head football coach, are being closely watched (almost gleefully in Florida).

It also comes as Tennessee's momentum had been gaining speed in the quest to climb atop the Southeastern Conference and be among the elite of the college football world with a savvy coaching staff, some back-to-back wins, tons of interest from high profile recruiting prospects and a re-energized fan base.

As one might have suspected, a few sports writers and pundits have some thoughts on this latest turn of events in the Reign of Lane.

Here's what they are saying today:

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trace5254 writes:

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VolFaninTriCities writes:

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Your comment is about the stupidest thing I have ever read (other than 3 football players robbing people with a BB gun in Blue Prius). I guess your screen name is appropriate as there is a "trace" amount of brain matter within your skull.

SmokeyHound writes:

No wonder urban wanted nukeese. my excse is that they had the flu... so lets suspend them for half a game. and then rub noses together like urban and tebow. sunds like a plan

GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rockytopron writes:

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Let the program without sin toss the first stone. That's what I thought. Walk away while you can numbnuts!

bigorangeslice writes:

Maybe Kiffin should install a team curfew like this institution:

http://www.state.tn.us/correction/ins...

OldNumber7 writes:

This doesn't affect things in the slightest. If all 3 are gone, so what? Jackson staying would be huge, but the recruiting power of this staff has been set in stone. If they have to scramble and re-align for these positions it's a guarantee it will happen in very short order. The player development at UT should be what frightens other schools the most. Take this years biggest games; proven ability to teach a thin, reduced-talent team to stare-down the best teams in the country. Look at linebacker injuries and the Jackson suspension..this team hasn't even experienced a mild setback. This is fantastic opportunity for CLK to demonstrate he is the disciplinarian of the SEC (if he takes it). The rebuilding will go on.

GreerVol22 writes:

btw, Jack Lail cuts Fulmer's grass to make ends meet...

Chomp writes:

This kind of makes pumping gas in South Carolina look like an honorable job.

The Vol nation should expect snide remarks considering all that Kiffin had to say about our coaches and programs early on. The sad thing is that most of us feel sorry for UT, but more importantly for the families of these players who have been shamed. Two days ago the family members were answering questions about these guys and their sterling program. Today the families are trying to avoid people. Players should consider the ramifications of their actions on others, but rarely do.

TommyJack writes:

Only bright spot...apparently the robbery victims are Bama grads.

afb37206 writes:

I grew up in Knoxville and am an alumnus of the University: 1.) Knoxville is a college town; always has been and always will be, 2.) young people have been coming there from all points of the compass for many, many years and from 18-24 their bodies are raging with hormones that make them do stupid, illogical acts often just for fun, 3.) things like this current incident have been happening in Knoxville for as long as I can remember (Frank Emanuel's favorite pregame activity was to go out every Friday night and look for local high school guys to beat up - we lived in fear of him), 4.) this incident (serious as it is) sounds like a harmless prank gone wrong (though I've never brandished a weapon, I myself participated in more than one incident for FUN that could have been construed as illegal, and 5.) UT and Knoxville police LOVE to misuse their authority when it comes to UT students and especially athletes - it gets their names in the paper (this too has been going on for most of my life, remember Rabbit Montgomery?), 6.) some things never change in Knoxville. Let's see, Jack Reynolds saws a car in half and gets a cute lovable nickname for it; Bernard King steals a tv and it takes almost forty years for him to get forgiven for it; Condredge Holloway regularly partied late every Friday night while starring at quarterback, but never made the papers - the list goes on and on. Ask any former UT student if they had fun while at UT and the first thing you'll get is a smile as each remembers some isolated incident for which they probably didn't get punished - there are too many of them to control! You can't have thousands of young people in one place without somthing hilarious but possibly illegal going on every day and night. Some of them get in the papers and get pushed WAY out of proportion; some of them are truly serious and punishment is given; and some simply should be laughed off. Time will tell how this incident gets classified.

BuckeyeVol writes:

Richardson and Evans should be gone today! I can't help but feel in my gut that Jackson was an innocent in this whole event. Although not a choirboy, why would he do something so stupid after being disiplined last week? It just defies logic! Kiffin needs to make a strong statement or he has lost all credibility.

Slimjim_Vols writes:

According to the arrest warrants that I have read on the 3.......... Nuke and Mike were the ones who went to the car and did the deed..... afterwards Janzen walked out of the store and said we have to go......... I think it may be wrong place, wrong time for JJ.

Don't get me wrong anyone whether on the team or not should be disiplined for actions like this in society, but I believe if Janzen was simply going in the store and coming out that he should stay.

As for the other 2, I will pray for them as well as Janzen. Pray, as in asking that they better themselves in the future to succeed and have productive, fulfilling lives. All 3 of these young men are 18 and have their lives ahead of them. I do believe that Nuke and Mike should have to leave the program just by their actions, and total disrespect to the unimmaginable degree.

Altogether I think it is a shame. A shame that so much talent, and bright futures may fade away and become oblivious, when all it would have taken would have been to do the right things in life.

I live in NC and expected to get the 3rd degree from fellow employees, but to amazement, I was told that this could have happened anywhere and it should truly be a wake up call to us all. How is should also bring these young men to see how far their actions really fall.

Call me a pushover, but as I say at least 2 should be gone, I also will cheer for them....... It may not be on the field wearing our beloved Orange and White, but in life, as this is the time now that we need to let these guys know that in our hearts, we still wish and hope that they succeed in life.

BuckeyeVol writes:

in response to TommyJack:

Only bright spot...apparently the robbery victims are Bama grads.

That was my thought immediately! Wow, they weren't exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer.

TNPilgrim writes:

It's just breathtaking how stupid these football players are. Even if Jackson wasn't one of the ones approaching the car, he had to know what was about to happen and he did nothing to stop it or get away from it. Add to that the fact that he's just coming off suspension for failing a drug test and he's out cruising with some crack ho at 1:30AM in the middle of the week. Who wants to bet that all four of them were stoned on pot, further imparing their already limited judgement. If Kiffen doesn't get rid of all three of them he'll be the laughingstock of the entire country. If he gets rid of Richardson and Edwards and keeps Jackson it will be even worse, showing favoritism to his freshman all-american. In the future, maybe Lane and Coach O need to pay more attention to players' backgrounds and stay away from thugs - that's where Fulmer dropped the ball.

ctexorange writes:

What? No supensions until further notice? The discipline is just like the mouth, "all bark and no bite."

Slimjim_Vols writes:

in response to TNPilgrim:

It's just breathtaking how stupid these football players are. Even if Jackson wasn't one of the ones approaching the car, he had to know what was about to happen and he did nothing to stop it or get away from it. Add to that the fact that he's just coming off suspension for failing a drug test and he's out cruising with some crack ho at 1:30AM in the middle of the week. Who wants to bet that all four of them were stoned on pot, further imparing their already limited judgement. If Kiffen doesn't get rid of all three of them he'll be the laughingstock of the entire country. If he gets rid of Richardson and Edwards and keeps Jackson it will be even worse, showing favoritism to his freshman all-american. In the future, maybe Lane and Coach O need to pay more attention to players' backgrounds and stay away from thugs - that's where Fulmer dropped the ball.

Actually according to the arrest warrants Janzen was in the store and came out after the gun had done been pulled or shown

BuckeyeVol writes:

in response to TNPilgrim:

It's just breathtaking how stupid these football players are. Even if Jackson wasn't one of the ones approaching the car, he had to know what was about to happen and he did nothing to stop it or get away from it. Add to that the fact that he's just coming off suspension for failing a drug test and he's out cruising with some crack ho at 1:30AM in the middle of the week. Who wants to bet that all four of them were stoned on pot, further imparing their already limited judgement. If Kiffen doesn't get rid of all three of them he'll be the laughingstock of the entire country. If he gets rid of Richardson and Edwards and keeps Jackson it will be even worse, showing favoritism to his freshman all-american. In the future, maybe Lane and Coach O need to pay more attention to players' backgrounds and stay away from thugs - that's where Fulmer dropped the ball.

The police report suggests that Jackson my have not known what was going on initially. Let's wait for the police investigation to be completed before we throw Jackson under the bus with the other 2 morons. Ever had a midnight craving for a smokey dog??

10volunteers98 writes:

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In the first place,you`re a complete moron!In the second place,Kiffin and Orgeron scare you Bama and Gay-tor fans to death,don`t they? People like you wait for an opportunity like this to make your stupid comments about this staff because you know they are getting the Vols back to the top.They represent a threat to all you other SEC fans.This is why you would love to see them gone from UT.Other than that,you could care less.Kiffin and Orgeron didn`t tell these three idiots to pull a stunt like this.GO,VOLS!!!

nc14 writes:

in response to TommyJack:

Only bright spot...apparently the robbery victims are Bama grads.

Reflected in their post ROBBERY comments. Big fans and "that's the way it is sometimes." Excuse away TJ, you're on a roll.

nc14 writes:

in response to BuckeyeVol:

That was my thought immediately! Wow, they weren't exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer.

You did read their remarks, right? Having a thought, hey Buckeye there's a concept for you.

Khog writes:

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Trace,
Why would you make such an idiotic comment like this? Since when is Lane Kiffin or Ed Orgeron thugs? Coach Kiffin has a top notch coaching staff, and this incident will not be repeated. Coach Kiffin will not tolerate behavior like this from his players. I would guess that you must be a Bama fan, so why don't you stick to writing comments on Bama's forums if they are smart enough to have any!

WytheVol writes:

in response to VolFaninTriCities:

Your comment is about the stupidest thing I have ever read (other than 3 football players robbing people with a BB gun in Blue Prius). I guess your screen name is appropriate as there is a "trace" amount of brain matter within your skull.

"(other than 3 football players robbing people with a BB gun in Blue Prius)."

Its sad that we can find any humor in this at all. But, this should be on that TV show "Worlds Dumbest Criminals"...

Who in the hell robs someone with a bb gun and drives a prius as a gettaway car... Not to mention the individuals that they robbed. I mean no disrespect to the victims, but for cryin out loud... You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that those guys weren't the richest ppl in the area, and they certainly didn't have a cash registar. Idiots. May they all get what they get. I have no pitty for any of them.

Even if JJ wasn't involved, his guilt is at a minimum by association and stupidity.

TommyJack writes:

in response to nc14:

Reflected in their post ROBBERY comments. Big fans and "that's the way it is sometimes." Excuse away TJ, you're on a roll.

I noticed a giant Bama ring on one victim's finger as he was mining for a booger.

nc14 writes:

in response to Slimjim_Vols:

According to the arrest warrants that I have read on the 3.......... Nuke and Mike were the ones who went to the car and did the deed..... afterwards Janzen walked out of the store and said we have to go......... I think it may be wrong place, wrong time for JJ.

Don't get me wrong anyone whether on the team or not should be disiplined for actions like this in society, but I believe if Janzen was simply going in the store and coming out that he should stay.

As for the other 2, I will pray for them as well as Janzen. Pray, as in asking that they better themselves in the future to succeed and have productive, fulfilling lives. All 3 of these young men are 18 and have their lives ahead of them. I do believe that Nuke and Mike should have to leave the program just by their actions, and total disrespect to the unimmaginable degree.

Altogether I think it is a shame. A shame that so much talent, and bright futures may fade away and become oblivious, when all it would have taken would have been to do the right things in life.

I live in NC and expected to get the 3rd degree from fellow employees, but to amazement, I was told that this could have happened anywhere and it should truly be a wake up call to us all. How is should also bring these young men to see how far their actions really fall.

Call me a pushover, but as I say at least 2 should be gone, I also will cheer for them....... It may not be on the field wearing our beloved Orange and White, but in life, as this is the time now that we need to let these guys know that in our hearts, we still wish and hope that they succeed in life.

Well said Slim. For some sad reason, some of your own have chosen the low road in this. As a Bama fan I was sickened by the news and feel for these kids (18yr olds), their families, this young head coach and your proud institution. I fail to see the humor in it at all.

mciahf#240671 writes:

Maybe it's time for a 'tea party' outside Kiffin's office. These guys need to be off the team;All of them, RIGHT now. If they need more time to sort this out, at least wait til after the season is over.

crimsonviper writes:

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Agree Big UT will survive this.
Beat OM and then stay the course.
Travel safe and have a big time in Oxford..GBO!

gslaton#227127 writes:

Fortunately, only the media and some bloggers get to convict without trial. I salute CLK for taking his time to gather all of the facts before making a decision. There are young men's futures at stake here. While they should be held accountable for their mistakes, let's wait until the facts and CLK's decision before flipping out!

FEARinSEC writes:

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Damm, dthenc, I'm getting ready for bed and here you are! I get out of bed, here you are! WTF??? Are you a little OCD???

lomas98 writes:

If Jackson is only guilty of being out late and not involved in the robbery, you can't kick him off the team. If a family Kiffin is recruiting asks him about that situation, he could say the kids that were proven guilty were dealt with. I say a suspension for the season for Jackson just because he put himself in the situation after already being in trouble. The argument I have heard about what were they doing out that late is stupid. Ever been in college?? I graduated in 97 and partied with several prominent members of the football team who were drinking underage at a bar on the strip. Peyton Manning was even present certain Wednesday dollar nights. And yes, it was during football season at 1:00 in the morning. If Jackson is proven to be guilty of the robbery, he must go. No favoritism being shown if he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Nukeese and Edwards need to go. The reason this is so magnified is Kiffin saying how much discipline they have in the program and taking shots at other coaches for the way they discipline players. By the way, there is an important football game for this team on Saturday. Hopefully the leader of this team in Berry and Hardesty can rally the troops and get an important win.

licknpromise777#651578 writes:

in response to BuckeyeVol:

Richardson and Evans should be gone today! I can't help but feel in my gut that Jackson was an innocent in this whole event. Although not a choirboy, why would he do something so stupid after being disiplined last week? It just defies logic! Kiffin needs to make a strong statement or he has lost all credibility.

It appears jackson was mildly involved..He will proably get probation and community service..Send him home to his dad and reinstate him for the summer semester..Anybody deserves a chance to turn their life and make atonement for their mistakes; being a football player or just a joe blow; they should be treated the same

thaclaw writes:

THIS IS AN AWESOME READ, ALL THE WAY TO THE END...VERY INSIGHTFUL!!!!!

PART 1!!

The Recruiting Fix: Surprises in Store
by Sabanocchio on November 13, 2009

It seems that every time we do this we have more good news to talk about. Today is certainly no exception, though this entry will be shorter than previous ones because of much happening due to the road game.

The future anchor of the Tennessee offensive line, JaWuan James, announced his intentions to become a UT Vol just last evening. In a class that was already highly ranked, adding offensive linemen was said to be the most important step to taking it from “good” to “great.”

On the cuff, James may not seem to have much star power at the position, especially when you compare him to the stud left tackles we’ve had in this league in recent years who became immediate contributors, (Andre Smith, Michael Oher) but what he does have is tons and tons of potential. James is 6-foot-6, 300 lbs, and guess what? He can get bigger. He carries his weight so well that he looks more like a defensive tackle than a lineman. The payoff at offensive tackle is that he can put on at least 30 more pounds of good weight.

The biggest thing that stands out about James is his athleticism for his size. His 40 speed isn’t going to blow you away (5.34 sec) — it’s his initial burst and acceleration that makes him such a special prospect from an athletic standpoint. He has the athleticism to deal with even the most ferocious blind side pass-rushers in the SEC. He has excellent feet, long arms and huge hands — prototypical of an NFL left tackle He has been timed at 4.94 in the shuttle. That’s incredible for a guy his size.

What JaWuan James lacks in the immediate “wow” factor category, he more than makes up in potential. He is a future star on the Tennessee offensive line and has a future playing on Sundays if he lives up to potential.

nc14 writes:

in response to TommyJack:

I noticed a giant Bama ring on one victim's finger as he was mining for a booger.

The thoughts that enter your mind speak volumes of your character. As I said, you're on a roll, make 'em proud.

thaclaw writes:

PART 2
The visitor list for the Memphis game shrank from promising to satisfactory as several expected visitors failed to make it into town for one reason or another.

Kelcy Quarles, surprised many, including the coaching staff by announcing his intentions to trip to Knoxville for an unofficial visit for the game. For some reason or another he ended up at Clemson, a school that is a real long shot to ever get his signature, for a visit along with 2011 Vol linebacker commit, AJ Johnson. At this point though, I’d say anyone but South Carolina is a long shot to get his signature. This is the third time he has announced that he is coming to Knoxville and he hasn’t made it in yet. That, coupled with the coaches surprise at even hearing he was planning a visit, leads me to believe he is not a very good possibility to end up here. It has been said that he is planning on a belayed visit, but I will believe that when he shows up. He’ll be in Columbia for the Florida game this weekend.

Another guy who was supposed to be here but didn’t make it is linebacker prospect Corey Nelson. Nelson was due to be in town on an official visit but could not get everything arranged in time. The news isn’t all bad, however, as Corey has rescheduled for the Vanderbilt game.

Now onto who actually made it into Knoxville. Safety prospect Ahmad Dixon seemed to come almost out of nowhere with his seemingly legitimate interest in the Vols. The rumors about him de-committing from Baylor have been flying around since he first committed there. Recently they got much stronger to the point where it was suggested that he was almost certain to end up somewhere else, most likely in the SEC.

Dixon took a visit to Auburn with friends, Lache Seastrunk and Trovon Reed and they were rumored to be leading prior to his visit to Knoxville, but Tennessee made quite an impression on Reed.

“It went good. I got to meet both coach Kiffins (head coach Lane, defensive coordinator Monte), and I got to see the campus. It was an amazing visit. It was great. I mean, I really can’t explain how good it was.” Dixon told Rivals.

Now Dixon claims that he has opened his recruiting up and the Vols are at the top of his list. Whether or not that means he is no longer committed to Baylor isn’t completely clear, but what is clear is that the Vols are the school with the best chance to land his signature on Signing Day currently.

Dixon says that he and his parents are driving back up to Knoxville to visit Tennessee again for the Vanderbilt game. If they make that trip, it would be hard to deny that the Vols have the best chance at the talented safety.

Dixon has claimed in the past that his final decision will come down to Signing Day.

BallBreaker writes:

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I'll agree 100% WD. This decision that Coach has to make will determine these guys lives forever. Lane knows he has to make the right one. Rushing judgement before all of the facts come out would be detrimental to all concerned. We will survive!

echols12#363833 writes:

since when does one adult control the actions of another adult..... lane kiffin should be judged on how he response to this crisis...self righteous people always want to rush to judgement before getting all the facts....

thaclaw writes:

PART 3

As badly as we need help immediately on our offensive line, the coaches are still looking towards the future with prospects such as Marquis Pair.

The coaches have made no secret their love for him as a prospect and their desire to keep him as a member of this recruiting class. An official visit to Knoxville appears to have sealed the deal.

“I was real impressed by the atmosphere,” Pair said to Rivals. “It was amazing. The way the fans treated the players was just off the wall. Man, it was just a great visit overall.”

Pair will need a year in the strength and conditioning program before he will be in a position to help out on the line. Expect him to redshirt.

Let’s talk quarterbacks.

Many expected us to offer a junior college prospect by this time, yet nothing has materialized in the form of an offer.

The coaches are still looking at Matt Simms. The fact that they have taken this long to look at him should tell you a lot about his prospects of ever playing at a high level here. He’s the best chance of bringing in a QB that can compete with Stephens and if they do not offer him, it is because they think Stephens is clearly better.

They are still talking to some four year guys and trying to get someone to visit. Jesse Scroggins and Barry Brunetti appear to be completely solid in their commitments to other schools. The coaches have basically given up trying to get Scroggins to visit Knoxville. For better or worse, it appears he will stick with USC.

On Brunetti, I’m hearing that the coaches gave a “last ditch” effort to get him up here on a visit and when he didn’t bite, they moved on. Barry is still hearing from Dan Mullen though which is odd considering the rumors of Cameron Newton to MSU. Is it possible that UT is continuing to evaluate Cam as well?

Tommy Rees and Chase Rettig would be the most likely to visit though there is no indication of any interest on the part of the prospects in doing so.

At this point, I think the most likely scenario is that they stick with Bray and look to land two quarterbacks next year. Nothing would really surprise me, but I think all of the highly-regarded non-quarterback prospects that are looking real hard at Tennessee are making it more difficult for the coaches to spend a scholarship on Simms. Watching him on film, it was difficult for me to see why they would be interested in him to begin with other than the name. His arm is average, he doesn’t show good awareness in the pocket, and his delivery is suspect at times.

After losing last week to the former school of current UT QB Nick Lamaison, Mount San Antonio, Simms was pulled with 5 minutes remaining in the first half of this week’s game vs. Citrus in favor of the backup. He never made it back in.

FEARinSEC writes:

dthenc, Don't you think you are being a little premature about Kiffin's decision on Jackson? Nothing has even been released yet about punishment and already you are mouthing off about something that hasn't even happened yet?? Why??? You really don't make any sense!!!

TennesseeJed writes:

I hope these three realize the mess they have created and the distraction for fans, the team and the coach. CLK has had the team's back since he set foot in Knoxville - sadly, it looks like a handful didn't have his back.

People are going to say what they want, and all the UT Haters are screaming from their soapboxes, but I commend Kiffin for refusing to respond until he knows the facts. He could have easily turned his back and handed these kids over to the angry mob but that isn't who he is and that isn't how he operates.

Doing the right this isn't always easy, and thanks to the careless actions of a few, Kiffin will have a chance to prove this once again. I have full confidence in this coach staff and know they will handle this appropriately, once all the facts come to light.

thaclaw writes:

PART 4

You are beginning to see some of the prospects already committed to UT look around. Don’t be alarmed. This may not be true in every case, but in most cases these are guys that are either taking up a spot that is keeping a more talented prospect from committing, or are not likely to make the grades required for admission. This is the time when it the picture begins to get clearer in regards to who will graduate in December from JuCo or will not, and who is going to make the grades to qualify.

I’ll throw around a couple of names of guys that may fit in one or more of these categories but this list is by no means definitive. Pat Harris, John Brown, Jose Jose, Ralph Williams, Risean Broussard. Delvin Jones appears to be looking as well although I think he is a guy the coaches clearly want.

Notice that this list is defensive tackle-heavy. Thus why it is so important to go hard after guys such as Calvin Smith, Kelcy Quarles and even Mike Thornton.

In regards to prospects in Junior College graduating, it is important to note that John Cullen and Dequan Menzie will not be among them. Neither will John Brown by all indications. They each will require more classes in order to graduate which is a requirement in order to transfer to a four year institution.

All of these guys are still just possibilities for UT at this point as they remain uncommitted, but this could be viewed as a negative aspect that may cause the coaches to favor other prospects that would be here in December or have full eligibility upon arriving. I don’t know that this is the case, I am simply presenting it as a possibility.

A tentative list of who is currently on track to enroll early is:

QB Tyler Bray, WR Ted Meline, WR Kembrell Thompkins, WR Matt Milton, FB/H-back Channing Fugate, OG/C Jose Jose,OT JuWuan James, TE Ken Adams, DE Corey Miller, DE Brandon Willis and DE Jacques Smith.

You are also going to see some guys that are considered firm UT commitments take some visits soon for a couple of reasons, 1. to recruit other prospects and 2. just to enjoy the process. Look for Corey Miller and Brandon Willis to be employed in the first respect. Since the season is over for some prospects they now find themselves with time to devote to taking visits.

BuckeyeVol writes:

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As previously stated, I suggested to wait until the police investigation was completed before you throw Jackson under the bus with the other 2 morons. If Jackson is guilty of armed robbery and was involved he should go, regardless of his ability or standing with the team. There is a reason that he was released without bail, evidence must be sketchy at best or his story pans out. Wait for the facts.

thaclaw writes:

PART 5

Let’s talk a little about Jeff Luc. He seems to be the prospect everyone wants to know about. He is also one of the most secretive, in terms of what exactly he is thinking.. He talks very little to the press and when he does, he doesn’t say much.

Luc was in Gainesville this past week to watch the Gators play Vandy. Humorously when asked what stood out to Jeff about the visit, his brother said that it was that he “stayed overnight which helped him absorb everything he witnessed during the weekend.” Good job making an impression, Florida. To be fair though, Luc has been to Florida so many times that he knows what it’s about. That is one reason I would not get too concerned over the fact that Luc is taking visits there. He’s not going to learn anything new and if UT is already ahead, then chances are they stay there. He is just trying to be sure of his decision.

Jeff will be in Athens this weekend officially to take in the Auburn-Georgia affair. Georgia isn’t thought to be a strong player for his services which leads one to believe Luc is now taking visits just to use up his allotted officials.

I continue to hear that Luc to Tennessee is more of a probability than a possibility and that the Vols have nothing to worry about.

A couple of random thoughts and ruminations:

Watch who Memphis hires to replace ousted head coach Tommy West. I doubt they get any of the big names that are being tossed around, it’s most likely going to be a young up-and-coming assistant from somewhere, and likely someone who can relate to recruits much better than West could.

Our coaches have made no secret of their desire to pilfer top talent from Memphis in the future and a guy like that will make it more difficult to do so. He may be able to convince a big prospect or two to stay close to home every once in awhile.

thaclaw writes:

PART 6 AND THE END:

This game against Ole Miss is huge for recruiting. Ole Miss has a pipeline right into the heart of Memphis and has been able to snag Middle Tennessee prospects from time to time as well. Also we would love to do some more damage down in Mississippi and we have the man to get it done from the standpoint of having inroads to the schools in Frank Wilson. Orgeron obviously has some connections in the Mississippi area as well.

Watch Ole Miss’ defensive line closely for a preview of what the Vols’ line is going to look like in a couple of years. There are a lot of NFL players on that d-line and they have very little drop-off when the starters are spelled.

Also it has been requested that I mention something in my blog to the effect of “We’ve got a coach now! Wooooo!” and “Take that fat Phil!” Just trying to satisfy my audience here.

Briefly on Calvin Smith and Corey Lemonier, they are all but destined to wind up at the same school and that will either be Tennessee or Illinois. They will visit next week for the Vandy game and we will discuss them more in depth then but sources continue to say look for the Vols to land both as long as their visit goes well. Illinois appears to have little chance. It’s hard to imagine a visit not going well with this staff as host.

Don’t be surprised to see JuCo DT David Mahoney reenter the picture at some point.

Watch for Chris Dunkley to possibly make a return visit with his parents. I doubt it happens, but it has been mentioned that he is trying to arrange it.

I know it’s early to talk about 2012 prospects, but this one warrants a mention. There is a sophomore offensive lineman at MUS in Memphis that is already drawing quite a bit of interest. His name is Ben Still and his dad is a former Vol All-American and NFL player. He already checks in at 6′4″, 285lbs and is still growing. Better yet, this kid is a freak athlete. Not just a big body, but a big athletic body which is exactly what this staff loves to see in a lineman.

He should be one of the more coveted OL in the southeast and most likely the country over the next couple of years. This kid naturally does things that some linemen don’t get down until late in their college careers.

There are going to be many surprises over the next several months so get ready for a roller coaster ride. Before you even ask what those surprises may be, I feel compelled define the word surprise for you.
sur·prise n. Something, such as an unexpected encounter, event, or gift

There is no box under the tree to shake. We can guess, but we will likely be wrong. Who reading this thought that Janzen Jackson was going to be a Vol up until Signing Day when rumors started to swirl?

The surprises may not be all good, but it will be “all good” in the end.

It will be fun too. I promise you that.

KENVOL writes:

I'm sorry but all three of these young men should be GONE!!! I don't care if Jackson was in on the crime or not he was already in trouble and then did this. He needs to go. If not then Kiffin needs to go. Stand for something or fall for anything.

SoFlaStephen writes:

I know Coach Streed Cred prefers Lil Wayne, but how about some Willie Nelson:

There's just a little fashioned karma coming down
Just a little old fashioned justice going round
A little bit of sowing and a little bit of reaping
A little bit of laughing and a little bit of weeping
Just a little old fashioned karma coming down
Coming down coming down just a little old fashioned karma coming down
It really ain't hard to understand
If you're gonna dance you gotta pay the band
It's just a little old fashioned karma coming down

TennesseeJed writes:

in response to dthenc:

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Can we at least get a concession from you that UF is nowhere near as talented this year as last? That the talk of a blow out was ridiculous? Without Tebow, UF has little to no offense? And lastly, that it is somewhat pathetic to post on a VOLS site a 'I told you so' to one fan?

don4654 writes:

in response to BuckeyeVol:

That was my thought immediately! Wow, they weren't exactly the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Apparently they were smarter than the Vols players.

GainesvilleVol1 writes:

Time to shift gears toward game day! I don't know if the team will be distracted, or pissed off by all the SH$t that has happened, but I'm thinking the latter. UT 35 Ole Miss 17. One touchdown by EB on an interception return.

GO VOLS!!! BEAT THE REBELS!!!!!

volinlouisiana writes:

It seems so many are ready to find Jackson guilty without all the facts. From the account I've read and listened to, the guys that were robbed said the whole thing only took about 20 seconds or so. If Jackson were inside the mini mart it is certainly plausible that he didn't know they were going to do this. He may be guilty but we don't need to make such statements that he should definitely be off the team until we know. If it were your kid, is that how you would want it handled? "Guilty! No need for investigation."

I acknowledge his suspension from just last week and that he should receive a suspension, possibly for the rest of the year just for hanging out with these goons so soon after a discipline problem, but kicking someone off the team and effectively ending a lucrative career without all the facts is irresponsible and should be considered more carefully than many of you seem willing to do.

BuckeyeVol writes:

in response to don4654:

Apparently they were smarter than the Vols players.

That goes without saying for 2 of the 3.

volinlouisiana writes:

in response to MVuniv:

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Just so you know, those stats are a little misleading. You have amassed alot of totals because you have played more SEC games than anyone else in the conference except South Carolina. Two more SEC games than TN and several other teams.

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