Kiffin's non-incident streak intercepted 5 days earlier

Freshman charged with theft, benched for Memphis game

Nyshier Oliver

Nyshier Oliver

Tennessee's non-incident streak wasn't exactly as advertised.

Tennessee freshman defensive back Nyshier Oliver broke the nearly year-long string of no public police incidents when he was charged with shoplifting just hours before the Vols played host to Memphis on Nov. 7.

Oliver wasn't allowed to dress for the Memphis game and also was punished internally, UT spokeswoman Tiffany Carpenter confirmed this morning.

It was the first known incident involving UT football players and police since Lane Kiffin was introduced as coach on Dec. 1.

When asked about the arrests of three other players in an alleged attempted armed robbery last Thursday, Kiffin said, "We made it 11 months and 11 days without any incidents."

Not quite. The official streak ended at 11 months and six days.

Oliver, 18, is the fourth player from UT's 22-member signing class for 2009 to be involved in a known incident involving police. He joins receiver Nu'Keese Richardson and defensive backs Janzen Jackson and Mike Edwards, who were arrested and charged with attempted armed robbery on Nov. 12, five days after Oliver was cited.

Oliver's citation was issued at Dillard's department store in West Town Mall at 1:45 p.m. The UT-Memphis game kicked off at 7 p.m.

He was cited to appear in court after a police officer spotted him trying to conceal a brown polo shirt worth $110 in a Dillard's bag.

Oliver, who is from Jersey City, N.J., will make a court appearance on Monday.

Oliver has played in one game this season, against Alabama on Oct. 24.

Kiffin declined to talk to the media after practice Tuesday. Kiffin wasn't asked about Oliver's citation during his weekly press conference early Tuesday afternoon since news broke of the incident later in the day. Kiffin does not typically meet with the media after practice on Tuesday.

Defensive end Chris Walker said he and some other UT players, including safety Eric Berry and defensive tackle Dan Williams, are trying to take a more active role in guiding UT's freshmen in light of their recent struggles.

"They need guys, like some of the upperclassmen, just to mentor some of them," Walker said. "I think that's what we're doing. There are a couple of guys that I've kind of taken hold to as freshman.

"That's one of my jobs, is to be a leader, just take those guys under my wing so when I get out of here they'll be able to be leaders for this team."

Walker seemed unsure why UT has had a recent rash of problems after going 11 months under Kiffin without any public incidents involving the police.

"I don't know; I guess it's just the season is really long," Walker said. "Lack of focus can come in and things can get very routine for you . . . and people can get bored with some stuff. That's when all the trouble gets in."

Oliver had an eventful recruitment before eventually signing with the Vols. He originally committed to UT in June under former coach Phillip Fulmer. He then changed his mind and committed to Notre Dame in October after Fulmer was fired. Then, he committed to UT again just days before National Signing Day on Feb. 4.

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Major_Magilicutty writes:

Article is inaccurate I think. We do need to clarify if Kiffin said arrests or incidents, because this was no arrest. All the same, still sucks to have this going on.

Major_Magilicutty writes:

Also...as some others have pointed out...it's quite possible Oliver kept this to himself seeing as no arrest was made. It would be similar to hiding a traffic ticket.

AceVentura writes:

Another arrest should have happened about 15 minutes ago. What the basketball team just did to UNC-Ashville should be a crime and punishable by law. That was murder.

Major_Magilicutty writes:

I love it, Ace!

ncvol17 writes:

the 2 kids in the pellet robbery will probably have some jail time. The shop lifter will get some community service...those who say these kids are poor...aren't Pell grants still available?

volswithclass writes:

Actually Demetrice Morley was arrested after Lane Kiffin was hired in December. Brent Vinson was also present in an off campus murder.

FWBVol writes:

The thing that bothers me is this is a little more than five hours from the start of the game. What happened to the team going to a local motel the Friday before the game and having a similar routine to the one they have with road games?

Even with a 7 p.m. kickoff, traffic starts getting a little heavy by mid-afternoon on game day.

volswithclass writes:

UT Safety Demetrice Morley Arrested
Posted: Dec 04, 2008 4:53 PM CST
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Tennessee safety Demetrice Morley was arrested Thursday morning on an outstanding warrant for a robbery charge from 2007.

The warrant was issued in Miami after Morley, a 21-year-old redshirt junior, failed to appear in court Sept. 4 for a hearing stemming from the strong-armed robbery incident on April 24, 2007.

"As soon as the Miami paperwork is complete he will be released from jail, which we hope will be (Thursday night)," University of Tennessee athletic department spokeswoman Tiffany Carpenter said.

Morley, who started 10 games in 2006, was not a part of the Volunteers squad at the time of the initial arrest after being dismissed by then-coach Phillip Fulmer for academic problems.

He was reinstated to the team this season after improving his academic standing and started 10 games. He was tied for eighth on the team with 42 tackles and had two interceptions.

The initial incident took place on the campus of Florida International University in Miami. According to the incident report, Morley and an FIU student robbed another student of $35, which they used to purchase food and gas.

Morley performed 75 hours of community service. The new follow-up hearing is rescheduled for Dec. 23. The Vols had a rash of discipline problems during the last offseason. Eight players were arrested or disciplined for breaking team rules.

Carpenter said new coach Lane Kiffin, who was on a recruiting trip Thursday, has been told of Morley's arrest and wants to meet with him.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

tngivem6 writes:

This class of recruits isn't looking to good now.
Good to see some of the team leaders stepping up and being the leaders this team needs.
Defensive end Chris Walker said he and some other UT players, including safety Eric Berry and defensive tackle Dan Williams.
Coaches can't baby sit these kids 24/7.

CoverOrange writes:

That was a false arrest. Doesn't count. Thanks for playing. Here's the home version.

Expat_Orange writes:

in response to Major_Magilicutty:

Also...as some others have pointed out...it's quite possible Oliver kept this to himself seeing as no arrest was made. It would be similar to hiding a traffic ticket.

I hope you're right. I'm thinking CLK didn't know. Otherwise, this could get ugly. Wish he'd come out and clear the air.

Just don't think CLK is involved in a "cover-up". If anything, he's a no holds barred straight shooter.

CoverOrange writes:

That was regarding Demetrice Morley.

DownTheField writes:

Hooker stole this insight from reading the comments in the other thread. Will KNS suspend him?

Expat_Orange writes:

in response to FreeTDTN:

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During. Simultaneous events. Strange. Full moon?

Greer_Vol_22 writes:

I keep waiting on the KNS article that asks "How did Kiffin fail these kids?" Let it go...everyone...let it go. Focus or lose again...

bobbytodd writes:

in response to volswithclass:

UT Safety Demetrice Morley Arrested
Posted: Dec 04, 2008 4:53 PM CST
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Tennessee safety Demetrice Morley was arrested Thursday morning on an outstanding warrant for a robbery charge from 2007.

The warrant was issued in Miami after Morley, a 21-year-old redshirt junior, failed to appear in court Sept. 4 for a hearing stemming from the strong-armed robbery incident on April 24, 2007.

"As soon as the Miami paperwork is complete he will be released from jail, which we hope will be (Thursday night)," University of Tennessee athletic department spokeswoman Tiffany Carpenter said.

Morley, who started 10 games in 2006, was not a part of the Volunteers squad at the time of the initial arrest after being dismissed by then-coach Phillip Fulmer for academic problems.

He was reinstated to the team this season after improving his academic standing and started 10 games. He was tied for eighth on the team with 42 tackles and had two interceptions.

The initial incident took place on the campus of Florida International University in Miami. According to the incident report, Morley and an FIU student robbed another student of $35, which they used to purchase food and gas.

Morley performed 75 hours of community service. The new follow-up hearing is rescheduled for Dec. 23. The Vols had a rash of discipline problems during the last offseason. Eight players were arrested or disciplined for breaking team rules.

Carpenter said new coach Lane Kiffin, who was on a recruiting trip Thursday, has been told of Morley's arrest and wants to meet with him.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Wow. Something from April 2007. I guess you remember that because its the last time you had sex. That was about 18 months before Kif was hired so the only thing that points out is that you are a moron.

JohnnyU writes:

FWBVol, that's a good question. I always thought that the players were pretty much sequestered from Friday evening until after the game. Really strange. I think this may be a critical time for Lane Kiffin. He needs to put the hammer down, and realize he can't always "have their back".

rusty_shackleford writes:

"...UT has had a recent rash of problems..." Rash of problems? Really? I count two: 1) Oliver and 2) the "Stickup Artists." I don't know how many a "rash" is, but I seem to get one every time I pick up the paper.

Expat_Orange writes:

in response to rusty_shackleford:

"...UT has had a recent rash of problems..." Rash of problems? Really? I count two: 1) Oliver and 2) the "Stickup Artists." I don't know how many a "rash" is, but I seem to get one every time I pick up the paper.

Always good to keep a tube of multi-purpose "Gold Bond" within arm's reach.

easleychuck writes:

in response to MVuniv:

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You are a real man referring to Coach Kiffin as "lil". From what I have seen this season, he towers over the majority of the coaches in the SEC. He looked to be about a foot taller than Saban.

You do not have the guts to spew your trash and negativity to a man's face. You hide behind your keyboard.

Some day when you GROW up you will, hopefully, begin to understand the deficiencies that you constantly reveal about yourself on this board. From being forced to step through your posts, "frustrated" appears to be your middle name.

Have a Big Orange Day !

Go Vols !

Fossilfiction writes:

in response to volswithclass:

UT Safety Demetrice Morley Arrested
Posted: Dec 04, 2008 4:53 PM CST
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Tennessee safety Demetrice Morley was arrested Thursday morning on an outstanding warrant for a robbery charge from 2007.

The warrant was issued in Miami after Morley, a 21-year-old redshirt junior, failed to appear in court Sept. 4 for a hearing stemming from the strong-armed robbery incident on April 24, 2007.

"As soon as the Miami paperwork is complete he will be released from jail, which we hope will be (Thursday night)," University of Tennessee athletic department spokeswoman Tiffany Carpenter said.

Morley, who started 10 games in 2006, was not a part of the Volunteers squad at the time of the initial arrest after being dismissed by then-coach Phillip Fulmer for academic problems.

He was reinstated to the team this season after improving his academic standing and started 10 games. He was tied for eighth on the team with 42 tackles and had two interceptions.

The initial incident took place on the campus of Florida International University in Miami. According to the incident report, Morley and an FIU student robbed another student of $35, which they used to purchase food and gas.

Morley performed 75 hours of community service. The new follow-up hearing is rescheduled for Dec. 23. The Vols had a rash of discipline problems during the last offseason. Eight players were arrested or disciplined for breaking team rules.

Carpenter said new coach Lane Kiffin, who was on a recruiting trip Thursday, has been told of Morley's arrest and wants to meet with him.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

1. Morely was not part of the team when the initial arrest was made.
2. Morely ended up being thrown off the team.

Where are you going with this? The incident that lead to his arrest was prior to Kiffin's hiring. Should he claim that? When they say 11 months since the last arrest or incident that implies for a new charge. Maybe they should be a little more clear on what they saying. Some cannot read between the lines.
What would you like CLK to do about the incidents that he hasn't already done?!

vut56#231073 writes:

This particular report is about as stupid, non-informative and gotcha journalism as it comes; other posts have come close.

We will know what happened when the facts are fully known; the KNS has not contributed much in that light. We will know what actions are taken by UT and the UTAD when they are taken and not before full investigation and consultation with all parties concerned. That, obviously, does not include any consultation with the KNS.

These are cases of sad, stupid behavior by kids who have it all in front of them and choose to throw it all away. Guess what: polititions, ministers, business leaders and, yes, mothers and fathers do the same. Who is to blame? Kiffin?

Get real; he will be judged, in time, by his sucess in winning, graduating students and the public behavior of his staff and his team. He gets my A for effort thus far, but that does not mean he cannot miss a question here or there. Anyone who would imply several score scholarship athletes (not just football)can be leg tethered and hall monitored are just smoking rope. Feel sadness for the thoughtless perps, not pile on in glee at Hookers nit-picking.

navarrebeachvol writes:

in response to MVuniv:

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wow, you are such a loser. I get on here on occasion as a fan and alumni of UT. you are here every fricking time. do you have friends? do you have family? do you have a job? anything? maybe watch TV? something other than obsessing over the Vols? wow. sad. only thing I can think of is you are some 12 year old Gator fan whose parents are not very active on monitoring their child's use/abuse of the internet.

flashbone21 writes:

in response to MVuniv:

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your secret is out mv. we all know your really urban myers mother. its ok. we know u love your son but geeeesh.

navarrebeachvol writes:

in response to MVuniv:

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suuuuure big guy, we all know you would. wet yourself that is. Al Davis. you're kidding, right? go to bed lil 12 year old, I'll take care of your gator moma tonight....scaley thing that she is...yikes!

dbc5361 writes:

in response to Expat_Orange:

I hope you're right. I'm thinking CLK didn't know. Otherwise, this could get ugly. Wish he'd come out and clear the air.

Just don't think CLK is involved in a "cover-up". If anything, he's a no holds barred straight shooter.

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dbc5361 writes:

Also, can you really trust a coach that wears a pregame coaching outfit and then runs in before the game and changes to another color? Or changes at halftime. Or wears a different media outlet logo hat in every press conference. Or wants to go for 2, down 4 with NO TIME left on the clock?

DrJCrown_theMagicMan writes:

Just got thru reading some of the other posts today on here I missed.I think players need some help they work harder then other students I wonder if its possible to set up a fund to donate to them.They need help like all these other funds that are set up to help people.The old NCAA policy for not allowing players to be paid is broke.Its easy for me to see why they are always getting in trouble I just been back from Knoville for 5 years...

BillsBrother writes:

in response to dbc5361:

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momma has a saying about a pot and a kettle that seems to apply here....

bigorange61 writes:

in response to GOTGO:

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Lashing out because your kitties got beat tonight?

newtonrail writes:

in response to FWBVol:

The thing that bothers me is this is a little more than five hours from the start of the game. What happened to the team going to a local motel the Friday before the game and having a similar routine to the one they have with road games?

Even with a 7 p.m. kickoff, traffic starts getting a little heavy by mid-afternoon on game day.

Oliver is red shirting, and would not stay in motel with team. I am getting a little tired of KNS and other media counting these incidents, whether on Fulmer's watch, at Florida, Kiffin's, Alabama, or whoever. Gotcha journalism. How well would all there private life stand the scrutiny. We know part of Adam's and Hooker's.

tennezz writes:

in response to dbc5361:

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Thanks for confirming your stupidity!

tennezz writes:

Remember it only takes 5 people hitting {SUGGEST REMOVAL} and {YES} to get rid of these stupid idiots!

UT4ever writes:

Lame article from the Hook-meister.......figures, since Adam's edited it.....now that Foolmer's gone, let's just take pot-shots at the Kiffinator, since the KNS has nothing better to do!! Get a life, you paper-Nazi's!!!! HOHHOHOHHO!!!!

bigorange61 writes:

Lane was using the word "arrests" in earlier interviews talking about higher GPA, no arrests, etc. This was before all hell broke loose.

However, in the interview regarding the arrests of Richardson, Edwards, and Jackson, he used the word "incidents".

That was probably an unfortunate choice of words. Stories are out, quoting a University source, that the University was aware of Oliver's citation, and had handled it internally.

However, in the context the statement was made, Lane was talking about the arrests, but indeed said "incident".

Poor choice of words or taken out of context, there is blood in the water and the sharks are coming.

huntined#565710 writes:

Coach needs to learn from GA coach,,SEE NOTHING,,SAY NOTHING DO NOTHING and it all goes away...

utvol2485 writes:

in response to dbc5361:

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You are so insightful. Where would we be without your incessant rambling about things that are either months old or in the process of being resolved at the moment?

abnerPeabody writes:

in response to DaMan:

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Seems you will be out of kneeland for a long time.

armyvol22 writes:

("I don't know; I guess it's just the season is really long," Walker said. "Lack of focus can come in and things can get very routine for you . . . and people can get bored with some stuff. That's when all the trouble gets in.")
Now I have been bored out of my mind when I was in the military, but I never lifed anything or held up anyone. Stupid is as stupid does, and you can't fix stupid.

Bearwuzacheater writes:

in response to DaMan:

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How bout you just promise to NEVER step foot in NEYLAND Stadium TROLL!

bluetickhoundguy writes:

in response to DaMan:

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You won't be missed little kitty...

BERRY_4_HEISMAN writes:

in response to DaMan:

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Like we care if you never come to our stadium or ever post here again! How much time do you spend on here compared to the Gator sites? I think you are a little envious of our team and coach. Admit it, you are a closet Vol fan. You are such an idiot!

JenB (Inactive) writes:

in response to volswithclass:

UT Safety Demetrice Morley Arrested
Posted: Dec 04, 2008 4:53 PM CST
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Tennessee safety Demetrice Morley was arrested Thursday morning on an outstanding warrant for a robbery charge from 2007.

The warrant was issued in Miami after Morley, a 21-year-old redshirt junior, failed to appear in court Sept. 4 for a hearing stemming from the strong-armed robbery incident on April 24, 2007.

"As soon as the Miami paperwork is complete he will be released from jail, which we hope will be (Thursday night)," University of Tennessee athletic department spokeswoman Tiffany Carpenter said.

Morley, who started 10 games in 2006, was not a part of the Volunteers squad at the time of the initial arrest after being dismissed by then-coach Phillip Fulmer for academic problems.

He was reinstated to the team this season after improving his academic standing and started 10 games. He was tied for eighth on the team with 42 tackles and had two interceptions.

The initial incident took place on the campus of Florida International University in Miami. According to the incident report, Morley and an FIU student robbed another student of $35, which they used to purchase food and gas.

Morley performed 75 hours of community service. The new follow-up hearing is rescheduled for Dec. 23. The Vols had a rash of discipline problems during the last offseason. Eight players were arrested or disciplined for breaking team rules.

Carpenter said new coach Lane Kiffin, who was on a recruiting trip Thursday, has been told of Morley's arrest and wants to meet with him.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

I am not sure what you are trying to prove here. He was not arrested because of something he did since Kiffin took over. He was arrested over something from 2007! More than a year before Kiffin came on board.

You really need to change your handle on here, cause with almost every post I have read from you, you are showing you def dont have class...
It is funny though how other college fans will come on here and pretend to be a VOL fan when they are truely NOT!

DC_Vol writes:

in response to Fossilfiction:

1. Morely was not part of the team when the initial arrest was made.
2. Morely ended up being thrown off the team.

Where are you going with this? The incident that lead to his arrest was prior to Kiffin's hiring. Should he claim that? When they say 11 months since the last arrest or incident that implies for a new charge. Maybe they should be a little more clear on what they saying. Some cannot read between the lines.
What would you like CLK to do about the incidents that he hasn't already done?!

Fossification,

This is so typical with these Florida fans, they always bring up half the story or leave out an important part of the story or the minimize their own players involvement in an arrest. KMAN DTOC and MV are the worst. The funny part is they are destroying their memories of a possible perfect season with all this negativity they create.

One of the greatest times of my life was 1998 University of Tennessee perfect 13-0 season. I have nothing but positive memories of that time. All they will have for their memories is anger, bitterness and resentment. That is why the biggest joke of all is on them. LOL

I am constantly having to correct their posts. Thanks for correcting this post. Thanks from a Big Orange Fan!!!

huntined#565710 writes:

in response to dbc5361:

Also, can you really trust a coach that wears a pregame coaching outfit and then runs in before the game and changes to another color? Or changes at halftime. Or wears a different media outlet logo hat in every press conference. Or wants to go for 2, down 4 with NO TIME left on the clock?

dbc looks like your hero is AL DAVIS now there is a real winner...he has worn the same clothes and glasses for the last 30 years so at least COACH knows to change his clothes and show he at least has more then ONE SET..

Ayres_Hall writes:

I'm shocked that some of you are surprised that Lane Kiffin has spoken out of line. Where have you been the past 11 months?

So now he's guilty of more gibber gabber but the facts are he is moving the program, as a whole, in a much better direction that the past guy was taking it. GPA improved, class addendance improved, arrest/incidents down, and it appears the team is improved. Glass half full? Yep. Sure beats living in a negative world.

JenB (Inactive) writes:

in response to dbc5361:

Also, can you really trust a coach that wears a pregame coaching outfit and then runs in before the game and changes to another color? Or changes at halftime. Or wears a different media outlet logo hat in every press conference. Or wants to go for 2, down 4 with NO TIME left on the clock?

Yeah, I agree... Someone that changes clothes often and that tries to close the gap on the scoreboard is def someone who ya cant trust...
What a moronic post...

DC_Vol writes:

in response to JenB:

I am not sure what you are trying to prove here. He was not arrested because of something he did since Kiffin took over. He was arrested over something from 2007! More than a year before Kiffin came on board.

You really need to change your handle on here, cause with almost every post I have read from you, you are showing you def dont have class...
It is funny though how other college fans will come on here and pretend to be a VOL fan when they are truely NOT!

JenB,

This is just another Florida Fan. It is probably DtoC or MV with an additional screen name. Florida fans are the worst. They have no respect for our board and constantly improperly post stories that are not relevant, but implying they are. You are correct this story has nothing to do with the Lane Kiffin era. Watch out for KMAN he loves to twist the facts as well.

steamboatticket#484773 writes:

Punished internally? Oh boy. that sound like he take a bad beating. Lawd, maybe he take more than a beating!

Mr_Brownstone writes:

just give a harsher penalty than "little softie" a.k.a. oscar meyer.

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