Adams: Vols not as offensive as at first glance

John Adams

There's startling statistical evidence that Tennessee's offense is greatly improved over last season.

I will now pause while you pick your jaw off the floor.

Don't take my word for it.

Check the NCAA statistics.

Under the category for total offense, which UT fans have become accustomed to reading from the bottom up, you will find the Vols nestled into the middle of the pack, ranking a respectably mediocre 56th.

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In offensive hotbeds like Gainesville, Fla., or Lubbock, Texas - where 500-yard games are routine - a 56th ranking would be cause for panic. Here, it qualifies as drastic improvement for a program that ranked 115th in total offense last season.

No. 56 looks even better when you scan further down the total-offense rankings.

Ole Miss is 59th. Oregon is 64th. Miami is 67th. Ohio State is 68th. Iowa is 74th. LSU is 99th.

All six are in this week's top-25 polls. Ohio State and LSU are in the top 10.

Maybe UT fans also would be encouraged to know that Georgia, Saturdays' opponent, ranks 86th in total offense.

Or maybe, they're numb to numbers after a 5-7 season in 2008 and a 2-3 start this year.

Despite the rise in ranking, I'm not hearing a lot of, "Man, I can't believe how much better our offense is than last year." Instead, my recent e-mails indicate many fans view this offense as a continuation of last year's glacier-like attack.

I empathize with your assessment.

You see passes flying hither, there and yon. You see the ball bouncing off the hands and heads of receivers.

And you begin to wonder if a UT receiver is as likely to be knocked unconscious by a forward pass as he is to embrace it in the end zone.

Even when UT's offense is succeeding, there's a sense of impending doom, much of which relates to the track record of quarterback Jonathan Crompton, who can't get through a game without a turnover.

Crompton threw with uncharacteristic accuracy in the fourth quarter of UT's 26-22 loss to Auburn on Saturday night. If you tuned in at midstream of that comeback, you might have wondered if you were watching a UT rerun from the 1990s.

Not that Saturday's finish should revive your optimism in the offense. It was preceded by too many mishaps.

And its limitations are obvious.

Crompton is a below-average SEC quarterback, and one quarter or one game won't change that. The shortcomings of UT's receivers are just as apparent.

If you want to be optimistic about UT's passing game, you can hope that freshman like Nu'Keese Richardson and Marsalis Teague will have more of an impact in the second half of the season.

You also can take heart in this staff's successful recruiting.

In the meantime, maybe you can find solace in a few more statistics.

Coach Lane Kiffin and his staff have made a commitment to improving the running game.

The improvement is apparent despite a season-ending injury to center Josh McNeil, and the loss of injured guard Vladimir Richard for the last two games.

UT ranks 35th nationally in rushing.

Senior tailback Montario Hardesty leads the SEC and ranks eighth nationally in rushing.

His 115-yard per-game average is only 7 yards fewer than what UT averaged as a team last season.

That's progress.

It's just not as noticeable as a pass bouncing off a receiver's head.

Sports editor John Adams may be reached at 865-342-6284 or adamsj@knoxnews.com.

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DownTheField writes:

ok...

warriorman86#667191 writes:

Good article. First.

98memories writes:

Get back to .500, beat the bulldogs!

Major_Magilicutty writes:

I still think the coaching has sucked the last two games.

pammyvol1000 writes:

Hmm... interesting. Now how bout some TD's??!!

soccervol writes:

Put Nuke in more!!

agohn writes:

Just remember...Coach Fulmer didn't leave us with anybody. He was already sucking it up as a recruiter. So if you true vol fans want a speedy turn around...it isn't happening. We will be 4-8, 5-7, or 6-6. We will get better, just don't go jumping off the ship or hanging yourself. Give him a couple years...Kiffin will bring us back.

CoverOrange writes:

More evidence of statistics lying.

Wonder where the offense would rank if you discounted the 4th qtr stats.

CopVolFan writes:

I think it's time to focus on the positive. Was the 4th quarter the whole game, NO. But, I think the poise JC showed in there at that time should be recognized by the fans. Keep pushing forward. GO VOLS!

reidtownriverrat writes:

I believe if NS or NL were accurate in the short to medium range passing game the offense would be ok. Kiffin has got to take the load off the defense. Auburn ripped our D time after time, mostly after they were gassed. How many teams have to waste 2 timeouts on D. That alone should show Kiffin a change has to be made. Stevens may not be any better but hes gave Crompton 5 games to improve and he hasnt. Why beat a dead horse? Just break in a new colt.

DennisVols writes:

What should we have expected this year?
Well let’s start by looking at what we had coming into this season. Two QB’s that have had a different OC every year they have been here with a different offensive scheme in each of those years. Now some will say that doesn’t make any difference but try to imagine having the same job for part of the year, with limited time to prepare (NCAA rules) and every time you come back to work you have a different boss with a different approach on how you are to perform your job. Two of those bosses (Sanders & Clawson) didn’t have a clue as how to use you to the best of your ability. Now maybe someone with a greater ability to adjust to change could be doing a better job than Crompton or Stephens but there is a lot to be said for stability when it comes to success on a football team especially at the QB position. Face it, “it is what it is” and there is no one waiting in the wings that can do a better job than what we see right now. To switch QB’s right now would be to go backward 4 weeks ago to the UCLA game all over again. The passing game is all about timing and right now our timing is off partly due to injuries that prevented Jones and Moore from getting valuable practice time during camp. We won’t discuss Warren right now, not enough space to discuss that disappointment.
There are way too many dropped passes. It is bad enough when the passes are not nearly as accurate as they should be, but there have been way too many opportunities lost from the receivers not catching the ball when they should and not running the routes the way they should. To make it worse the mistakes seem to come from the veteran receivers more so than the freshmen.
So now we have an offense that has struggled to do what is necessary to win games, but this did not just happen this year. Only 4 times has UT won 10 or more games since the ’98 NC, since the ’98 NC UT is 3-5 in bowl games, lost the SEC title game all 4 times they played in it, were 4-16 against the teams in the conference they need to beat over the last 4 years which also included 2 losing seasons. So don’t expect a miracle this year. There are too many things that have gone wrong for the past decade that any coach could erase in the first year. Many try to compare Auburn to UT and where they think we should be. Auburn did not have the decade of learning how to lose thusly did not have as far to go.
Finally stop paying attended to loppers who come here only to insight anger and try and divide the fan base. Their comments have no merit to them and are childless in their intention to draw attention to themselves.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

RoadTrip writes:

in response to CoverOrange:

More evidence of statistics lying.

Wonder where the offense would rank if you discounted the 4th qtr stats.

And the Western Ky (high school) game.

DennisVols writes:

in response to RoadTrip:

And the Western Ky (high school) game.

Well since every team mentioned in the article have played a so called W.Ky game this year you would have to discount those from their respective records and we would still be right where we are. UCLA's defense is still ranked as one of the best in the nation as is UF. How many of the teams mentioned in this article have faced 2 defenses ranked as high as the ones UT has faced? Just how good would their record be? LSU played GA one of the worst defense's ranked in the nation.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

allntl1#565211 writes:

in response to agohn:

Just remember...Coach Fulmer didn't leave us with anybody. He was already sucking it up as a recruiter. So if you true vol fans want a speedy turn around...it isn't happening. We will be 4-8, 5-7, or 6-6. We will get better, just don't go jumping off the ship or hanging yourself. Give him a couple years...Kiffin will bring us back.

Well said.
This wreck did not happen in one year but it will turn around if fans are patient.
The class next year will be great and that is what wins games, talent. We do not have enough yet but we will.

dw0731 writes:

in response to 98memories:

Get back to .500, beat the bulldogs!

The only statistic that matters is wins and losses. And we still are a bad team. I hate to say it but we could finish 4-8, making last season better than 2009. I'm still a vol fan just down like most tonight.

usnavyvol writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

I tend not to feed the trolls, because they are shall I say STUPID...I see ur name on every article on this site. I am just wondering if
1. You have no life?
2. Are a bit nervous and a bit worried that CLK and this staff when given the proper time to develop and recruit will kick ur teams butt (when u man up to give us ur team's name) Alabubba
3. ran out of the free text books provide to you?
4. Missed the charted boat trip?
Just asking...Just in case u want to know and I'm gonna tell you anyway regardless. I will bleed orange until the day I day, regardless who is our coach or our QB I will support them as they give their all for UT. GO BIG ORANGE..
Vols Class of 93'....

volsfan4ever writes:

in response to DennisVols:

What should we have expected this year?
Well let’s start by looking at what we had coming into this season. Two QB’s that have had a different OC every year they have been here with a different offensive scheme in each of those years. Now some will say that doesn’t make any difference but try to imagine having the same job for part of the year, with limited time to prepare (NCAA rules) and every time you come back to work you have a different boss with a different approach on how you are to perform your job. Two of those bosses (Sanders & Clawson) didn’t have a clue as how to use you to the best of your ability. Now maybe someone with a greater ability to adjust to change could be doing a better job than Crompton or Stephens but there is a lot to be said for stability when it comes to success on a football team especially at the QB position. Face it, “it is what it is” and there is no one waiting in the wings that can do a better job than what we see right now. To switch QB’s right now would be to go backward 4 weeks ago to the UCLA game all over again. The passing game is all about timing and right now our timing is off partly due to injuries that prevented Jones and Moore from getting valuable practice time during camp. We won’t discuss Warren right now, not enough space to discuss that disappointment.
There are way too many dropped passes. It is bad enough when the passes are not nearly as accurate as they should be, but there have been way too many opportunities lost from the receivers not catching the ball when they should and not running the routes the way they should. To make it worse the mistakes seem to come from the veteran receivers more so than the freshmen.
So now we have an offense that has struggled to do what is necessary to win games, but this did not just happen this year. Only 4 times has UT won 10 or more games since the ’98 NC, since the ’98 NC UT is 3-5 in bowl games, lost the SEC title game all 4 times they played in it, were 4-16 against the teams in the conference they need to beat over the last 4 years which also included 2 losing seasons. So don’t expect a miracle this year. There are too many things that have gone wrong for the past decade that any coach could erase in the first year. Many try to compare Auburn to UT and where they think we should be. Auburn did not have the decade of learning how to lose thusly did not have as far to go.
Finally stop paying attended to loppers who come here only to insight anger and try and divide the fan base. Their comments have no merit to them and are childless in their intention to draw attention to themselves.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

Well said!!In this day of instant gratification I guess people can't be patient.I'm as fustrated as anybody right now but what can you do?Kiffin is doing the best he can with what he's got to work with.I do wish he would give stephens a shot.But last year we were in the same situation and stephens didn't do any better.I would like to see if he has improved though.I feel for our defense,you can't stay on the field that long.If people are pissed(as I am)go talk to fulmer!He got us in this mess!Why do you think he got fired!

allntl1#565211 writes:

in response to dw0731:

The only statistic that matters is wins and losses. And we still are a bad team. I hate to say it but we could finish 4-8, making last season better than 2009. I'm still a vol fan just down like most tonight.

Come on man, you can not expect this to turn around in one year. This is not the ACC or The Big East. This is the SEC and weakness at any one spot will be magnified every game. The Vols are better we just need to improve the talent at QB and O-Line. Look at the class Kiffen brought in and next years class. Patience he is doing it the right way.

Greer_Vol_22 writes:

Tell me again why we hired an offensive coordinator? I know Kiffin is calling plays and made no bones about that, but what does he do? It sure doesn't involve developing QBs...

volsfan4ever writes:

in response to usnavyvol:

I tend not to feed the trolls, because they are shall I say STUPID...I see ur name on every article on this site. I am just wondering if
1. You have no life?
2. Are a bit nervous and a bit worried that CLK and this staff when given the proper time to develop and recruit will kick ur teams butt (when u man up to give us ur team's name) Alabubba
3. ran out of the free text books provide to you?
4. Missed the charted boat trip?
Just asking...Just in case u want to know and I'm gonna tell you anyway regardless. I will bleed orange until the day I day, regardless who is our coach or our QB I will support them as they give their all for UT. GO BIG ORANGE..
Vols Class of 93'....

Amen brother!!I guess florida doesn't have internet or something.I don't ever go to other team's web sites.You know why?I don't give a f**ck what they think!!!!Oh yea,the wildcat isn't a form of the spread,it's a form of the option,deltacharlie!!!

99gator writes:

in response to DennisVols:

What should we have expected this year?
Well let’s start by looking at what we had coming into this season. Two QB’s that have had a different OC every year they have been here with a different offensive scheme in each of those years. Now some will say that doesn’t make any difference but try to imagine having the same job for part of the year, with limited time to prepare (NCAA rules) and every time you come back to work you have a different boss with a different approach on how you are to perform your job. Two of those bosses (Sanders & Clawson) didn’t have a clue as how to use you to the best of your ability. Now maybe someone with a greater ability to adjust to change could be doing a better job than Crompton or Stephens but there is a lot to be said for stability when it comes to success on a football team especially at the QB position. Face it, “it is what it is” and there is no one waiting in the wings that can do a better job than what we see right now. To switch QB’s right now would be to go backward 4 weeks ago to the UCLA game all over again. The passing game is all about timing and right now our timing is off partly due to injuries that prevented Jones and Moore from getting valuable practice time during camp. We won’t discuss Warren right now, not enough space to discuss that disappointment.
There are way too many dropped passes. It is bad enough when the passes are not nearly as accurate as they should be, but there have been way too many opportunities lost from the receivers not catching the ball when they should and not running the routes the way they should. To make it worse the mistakes seem to come from the veteran receivers more so than the freshmen.
So now we have an offense that has struggled to do what is necessary to win games, but this did not just happen this year. Only 4 times has UT won 10 or more games since the ’98 NC, since the ’98 NC UT is 3-5 in bowl games, lost the SEC title game all 4 times they played in it, were 4-16 against the teams in the conference they need to beat over the last 4 years which also included 2 losing seasons. So don’t expect a miracle this year. There are too many things that have gone wrong for the past decade that any coach could erase in the first year. Many try to compare Auburn to UT and where they think we should be. Auburn did not have the decade of learning how to lose thusly did not have as far to go.
Finally stop paying attended to loppers who come here only to insight anger and try and divide the fan base. Their comments have no merit to them and are childless in their intention to draw attention to themselves.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

keep in mind, that even though i am about to write what i am, i would not judge lane kiffin or his staff by this season.

but, the question was what should you have expected?

the answer i think most people would give is.....to be better.

bottom line, tennessee isn't any better.

the defense is still very good. the offense still is terrible.

and as the season looks as if it's headed to 6-6 territory.....most thought the schedule before the season was favorable to tennessee as opposed to last season.

all the games tennessee supposedly had no chance in no matter what.....florida, alabama, and mississippi were all on the road.

all the games that were toss ups that tennessee could win were at home.....UCLA, auburn, sc and some would include georgia.

yet, so far, they have lost the first two home toss up games.

i think people expected crompton to do what ainge did in 2006 (now that he had a real coach instead of clawson). ainge bad under sanders, good under cutcliffe. crompton bad with clawson, good with kiffin.

ain't happening.

i honestly did not expect the offense to be as pitiful. statistically, it isn't. but, we all know the truth. crompton falls down after taking the snap from center for crying out loud.

sirshanksalot writes:

Even Bobby Cox walked to the mound on occasions when Maddox "just didn't have his good stuff" and went to the bullpen. Coach Kiffin, Maddox is a Hall of Famer, understood when it's time to sit and was GROWN UP enough to take it. You have a 5TH YEAR SENIOR that will understand and if he can't then he will get over it.....GO TO THE MOUND AND TAKE THE BALL AWAY FROM HIM.

volcycle writes:

in response to DennisVols:

What should we have expected this year?
Well let’s start by looking at what we had coming into this season. Two QB’s that have had a different OC every year they have been here with a different offensive scheme in each of those years. Now some will say that doesn’t make any difference but try to imagine having the same job for part of the year, with limited time to prepare (NCAA rules) and every time you come back to work you have a different boss with a different approach on how you are to perform your job. Two of those bosses (Sanders & Clawson) didn’t have a clue as how to use you to the best of your ability. Now maybe someone with a greater ability to adjust to change could be doing a better job than Crompton or Stephens but there is a lot to be said for stability when it comes to success on a football team especially at the QB position. Face it, “it is what it is” and there is no one waiting in the wings that can do a better job than what we see right now. To switch QB’s right now would be to go backward 4 weeks ago to the UCLA game all over again. The passing game is all about timing and right now our timing is off partly due to injuries that prevented Jones and Moore from getting valuable practice time during camp. We won’t discuss Warren right now, not enough space to discuss that disappointment.
There are way too many dropped passes. It is bad enough when the passes are not nearly as accurate as they should be, but there have been way too many opportunities lost from the receivers not catching the ball when they should and not running the routes the way they should. To make it worse the mistakes seem to come from the veteran receivers more so than the freshmen.
So now we have an offense that has struggled to do what is necessary to win games, but this did not just happen this year. Only 4 times has UT won 10 or more games since the ’98 NC, since the ’98 NC UT is 3-5 in bowl games, lost the SEC title game all 4 times they played in it, were 4-16 against the teams in the conference they need to beat over the last 4 years which also included 2 losing seasons. So don’t expect a miracle this year. There are too many things that have gone wrong for the past decade that any coach could erase in the first year. Many try to compare Auburn to UT and where they think we should be. Auburn did not have the decade of learning how to lose thusly did not have as far to go.
Finally stop paying attended to loppers who come here only to insight anger and try and divide the fan base. Their comments have no merit to them and are childless in their intention to draw attention to themselves.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

Well stated. I couldn't agree more. My optimistic side keeps hanging on to the weekly improvement and I keep hoping they will straighten out the passing game by seasons end. I give kudos to Kiffen for not abandoning the pass, but rather keep on pushing for improvement. When it works, we are unstoppable. One good quarter doesn't mean it is fixed, but it is a step in the right direction.

Go Vols!!

licknpromise777#651578 writes:

The lack of timing between crompton and the receivers is puzzling.These are the same people he threw to last year and I guarantee they worked together on their own during the summer; which is common at all big schools..His lack of accuracy is one thing but his lack of touch on the ball and throwing 10 yard slants 90 mph is just BAD coaching

VolinCalif writes:

in response to CoverOrange:

More evidence of statistics lying.

Wonder where the offense would rank if you discounted the 4th qtr stats.

I'll just bet all team stats include the 4th Qt.

VolinCalif writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Stick it!

whatcanbrowndoforyou writes:

Well looking ahead Tennessee seems to match up with it's next couple of opponents scheme wise better than our last three. Auburn, Ohio, and Florida's offense's are very complex are hard to handle. Yes a good team should be able to adjust and keep those O's out of the end zone but considering the time our D is on the field I would say were doing pretty good.

VolinCalif writes:

in response to DennisVols:

What should we have expected this year?
Well let’s start by looking at what we had coming into this season. Two QB’s that have had a different OC every year they have been here with a different offensive scheme in each of those years. Now some will say that doesn’t make any difference but try to imagine having the same job for part of the year, with limited time to prepare (NCAA rules) and every time you come back to work you have a different boss with a different approach on how you are to perform your job. Two of those bosses (Sanders & Clawson) didn’t have a clue as how to use you to the best of your ability. Now maybe someone with a greater ability to adjust to change could be doing a better job than Crompton or Stephens but there is a lot to be said for stability when it comes to success on a football team especially at the QB position. Face it, “it is what it is” and there is no one waiting in the wings that can do a better job than what we see right now. To switch QB’s right now would be to go backward 4 weeks ago to the UCLA game all over again. The passing game is all about timing and right now our timing is off partly due to injuries that prevented Jones and Moore from getting valuable practice time during camp. We won’t discuss Warren right now, not enough space to discuss that disappointment.
There are way too many dropped passes. It is bad enough when the passes are not nearly as accurate as they should be, but there have been way too many opportunities lost from the receivers not catching the ball when they should and not running the routes the way they should. To make it worse the mistakes seem to come from the veteran receivers more so than the freshmen.
So now we have an offense that has struggled to do what is necessary to win games, but this did not just happen this year. Only 4 times has UT won 10 or more games since the ’98 NC, since the ’98 NC UT is 3-5 in bowl games, lost the SEC title game all 4 times they played in it, were 4-16 against the teams in the conference they need to beat over the last 4 years which also included 2 losing seasons. So don’t expect a miracle this year. There are too many things that have gone wrong for the past decade that any coach could erase in the first year. Many try to compare Auburn to UT and where they think we should be. Auburn did not have the decade of learning how to lose thusly did not have as far to go.
Finally stop paying attended to loppers who come here only to insight anger and try and divide the fan base. Their comments have no merit to them and are childless in their intention to draw attention to themselves.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

Good post DV

tonyvick#213307 writes:

All the teams with worse stats than we have will beat us if we play Crompton. No matter the stats Crompton is the reason we lose. The receivers don't have confidence he can get the ball to them, the defense has no confidence he can give them a break when needed. With more losing it's going to be tough for CLK to keep this team together and the common denominator for the negativity is Crompton.

memphis_vol_fan writes:

in response to whatcanbrowndoforyou:

Well looking ahead Tennessee seems to match up with it's next couple of opponents scheme wise better than our last three. Auburn, Ohio, and Florida's offense's are very complex are hard to handle. Yes a good team should be able to adjust and keep those O's out of the end zone but considering the time our D is on the field I would say were doing pretty good.

I noticed that too. The only team left on the schedule that primarily runs a spread offense is Memphis.

RockinTop writes:

in response to DennisVols:

What should we have expected this year?
Well let’s start by looking at what we had coming into this season. Two QB’s that have had a different OC every year they have been here with a different offensive scheme in each of those years. Now some will say that doesn’t make any difference but try to imagine having the same job for part of the year, with limited time to prepare (NCAA rules) and every time you come back to work you have a different boss with a different approach on how you are to perform your job. Two of those bosses (Sanders & Clawson) didn’t have a clue as how to use you to the best of your ability. Now maybe someone with a greater ability to adjust to change could be doing a better job than Crompton or Stephens but there is a lot to be said for stability when it comes to success on a football team especially at the QB position. Face it, “it is what it is” and there is no one waiting in the wings that can do a better job than what we see right now. To switch QB’s right now would be to go backward 4 weeks ago to the UCLA game all over again. The passing game is all about timing and right now our timing is off partly due to injuries that prevented Jones and Moore from getting valuable practice time during camp. We won’t discuss Warren right now, not enough space to discuss that disappointment.
There are way too many dropped passes. It is bad enough when the passes are not nearly as accurate as they should be, but there have been way too many opportunities lost from the receivers not catching the ball when they should and not running the routes the way they should. To make it worse the mistakes seem to come from the veteran receivers more so than the freshmen.
So now we have an offense that has struggled to do what is necessary to win games, but this did not just happen this year. Only 4 times has UT won 10 or more games since the ’98 NC, since the ’98 NC UT is 3-5 in bowl games, lost the SEC title game all 4 times they played in it, were 4-16 against the teams in the conference they need to beat over the last 4 years which also included 2 losing seasons. So don’t expect a miracle this year. There are too many things that have gone wrong for the past decade that any coach could erase in the first year. Many try to compare Auburn to UT and where they think we should be. Auburn did not have the decade of learning how to lose thusly did not have as far to go.
Finally stop paying attended to loppers who come here only to insight anger and try and divide the fan base. Their comments have no merit to them and are childless in their intention to draw attention to themselves.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

I am so sick of hearing the excuses about having different OC's that I think I will vomit.

The bottom line is, like it or not, Crompton does not possess the ability to lead when the pressure is on. The only reason he did well towards the end is because it no longer mattered and it was like he was back in practice again. We were beat, pressure was off....and Auburn may have exhibited a little it dont matter themselves that gave him those inflated numbers.

Do everyone a favor and face reality. The reality is we are 8-9 months & 5 games into Crompton learning this system. Reality is we heard all this BS about them working out in the summer on the offense, learning and studying blah blah blah. That's all BS and the hard reality is Crompton will always be what he's always been: terrible.

So the reality of that is that it is stupid, yes, stupid to continue with him. Every week Kiffin attempts to push the blame elsewhere. Just once I want him to say our QB just didnt play well. TELL THE TRUTH! He does it about the other players...so why not Crompton?

I dont expect perfection or a miracle. What I expect is to play a QB that gives us the best chance to win. Crompton has proven he does not possess this ability. So it MUST be someone else's turn.

It was amazing watching Crompton's body language on the sidelines after miserable play (games we lost). As I was thinking his body language says it all.....the ESPN announcer said "I dont like his body language right now".....and you know what? He was right. You could tell he could care less that he just messed up again. It was obvious.

So spew your fluff and make excuses about the number of OC's he's had. Who cares just put in the JUCO Lamaison even if he doesnt know all the plays or Stephens even though he doesnt practice as well as Crompton.

Crompton's play bother's me....but it's his attitude on the sidelines that I despise....it's not one of a leader which is why he stinks it up on the field week after week.

There is optimism and there is self deception. The latter is the scariest and where folks are that keep making excuses for Crompton.

DennisVols writes:

in response to 99gator:

keep in mind, that even though i am about to write what i am, i would not judge lane kiffin or his staff by this season.

but, the question was what should you have expected?

the answer i think most people would give is.....to be better.

bottom line, tennessee isn't any better.

the defense is still very good. the offense still is terrible.

and as the season looks as if it's headed to 6-6 territory.....most thought the schedule before the season was favorable to tennessee as opposed to last season.

all the games tennessee supposedly had no chance in no matter what.....florida, alabama, and mississippi were all on the road.

all the games that were toss ups that tennessee could win were at home.....UCLA, auburn, sc and some would include georgia.

yet, so far, they have lost the first two home toss up games.

i think people expected crompton to do what ainge did in 2006 (now that he had a real coach instead of clawson). ainge bad under sanders, good under cutcliffe. crompton bad with clawson, good with kiffin.

ain't happening.

i honestly did not expect the offense to be as pitiful. statistically, it isn't. but, we all know the truth. crompton falls down after taking the snap from center for crying out loud.

Actually this team is better and not just the so called stats the Adams tries to point out as better. This team went into Gainesville and fought hard for 60 mins, not just 1 qtr or 1 half as I have seen the last several years. If wins and losses are all you are going to look at for a team that was desperately in need of a change and a rebuilding that was long over due then no you don't see much of a change.
Last years Vols would have lost the UF game by the 4 TD's predicted this year without Fulmer getting under Meyer's skin, they would have lost yesterday's Aurburn game by at least 21 points all because under Fulmer they gave up. Don't tell me you can't see that difference in this team and the one put on the field for the past decade.
This team has not developed the continuity necessary yet to overcome the mistakes or even prevent them that have cost them at least 2 of the 3 losses. I don’t wear Orange colored glasses or even drink the so called kool-ade being pushed by some but at the same time I don’t give in to the theory that wins and losses are the only thing that counts when you are rebuilding a team that has spent most of the last decade learning how to lose rather than win.
UT does not have all the necessary pieces to win the games we want them to right now. Maybe it is Fulmer’s fault the cupboard is thin, maybe some highly rated talent just didn’t pan put. That is history and it cannot be changed. Like kicking a dead dog, it just ain’t getting up to hunt.
There are obvious improvements on this team/ Competitiveness, Energy, Drive, Discipline are just some of the things that are night & day from the last several years. Now it my not make a big difference in the win/loss column this year but it will in the years ahead as the talent level gets rebuilt at UT, and it is getting rebuilt. The win/loss column is not going to affect recruiting in a negative way this year as some of the loppers suggest. The recruits coming in have seen the improvements I have just stated and they see the outstanding coaching staff assembled. Rebuilding is going to happen one step at a time. No magic wand to be waved, it will take a couple of years to be complete, but there are obvious improvements already made on this team that anyone with knowledge of football can surely see.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

usnavyvol writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie:

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Yet again here u are speaking your garbage..
Let's see who's ur team today? Which ever one
is winning at the time. Go play in traffic idiot.
I will be on you like stink on?? every post I got ur sorry crack head covered. TROLL....TOOL
Class of 93'....Game on slapnutz......!!!
GO VOLS............

99gator writes:

in response to DennisVols:

Actually this team is better and not just the so called stats the Adams tries to point out as better. This team went into Gainesville and fought hard for 60 mins, not just 1 qtr or 1 half as I have seen the last several years. If wins and losses are all you are going to look at for a team that was desperately in need of a change and a rebuilding that was long over due then no you don't see much of a change.
Last years Vols would have lost the UF game by the 4 TD's predicted this year without Fulmer getting under Meyer's skin, they would have lost yesterday's Aurburn game by at least 21 points all because under Fulmer they gave up. Don't tell me you can't see that difference in this team and the one put on the field for the past decade.
This team has not developed the continuity necessary yet to overcome the mistakes or even prevent them that have cost them at least 2 of the 3 losses. I don’t wear Orange colored glasses or even drink the so called kool-ade being pushed by some but at the same time I don’t give in to the theory that wins and losses are the only thing that counts when you are rebuilding a team that has spent most of the last decade learning how to lose rather than win.
UT does not have all the necessary pieces to win the games we want them to right now. Maybe it is Fulmer’s fault the cupboard is thin, maybe some highly rated talent just didn’t pan put. That is history and it cannot be changed. Like kicking a dead dog, it just ain’t getting up to hunt.
There are obvious improvements on this team/ Competitiveness, Energy, Drive, Discipline are just some of the things that are night & day from the last several years. Now it my not make a big difference in the win/loss column this year but it will in the years ahead as the talent level gets rebuilt at UT, and it is getting rebuilt. The win/loss column is not going to affect recruiting in a negative way this year as some of the loppers suggest. The recruits coming in have seen the improvements I have just stated and they see the outstanding coaching staff assembled. Rebuilding is going to happen one step at a time. No magic wand to be waved, it will take a couple of years to be complete, but there are obvious improvements already made on this team that anyone with knowledge of football can surely see.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

you point to the future as you should. that's the most important thing here. for the most part, not many in tennessee's present are going to be around to help in the future.

however, again, the present is not better than last season's past.

bad offense. bad special teams. very good defense.

they have not shown the ability to make what they inherited better. they have made what they inherited play hard and that is to be commended.

now, that doesn't matter, because as you said it's the future that's important.

but, if you are going to ask seriously......is tennessee improved as a team......the answer is not noticeably.

whereas, at washington and auburn (to name a couple), they are clearly better football teams, despite what was inherited, than they were last year.

now, tennessee's future may be better than either of those two or anyone else. who knows?

but, you have to remember what everyone thought before the year and not have revisionist history.

most thought that you should have beaten wyoming, auburn, and ucla in 2008, if only the offense wasn't so pitiful. that alone would make tennessee improve to a 8-4 type of team. that was the general consensus of most. maybe that was unreasonable.

well, in 2009, tennessee still lost to ucla and auburn, this time at home.

usnavyvol writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie:

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Here u are gain DC running ur gums..Let's see who's ur favorite team today? The one winning.
Your comments are baseless and have no merit..Sh*T son I've forgotten more about UT football than you will ever know..Go play in traffic...Every post I will be on ur crack head a@$ everytime....GAME ON SLAPNUTZ......GO VOLS.
Class of 93.....

usnavyvol writes:

in response to g8rgal:

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Why the he!! are u still tolling a UT site. Go play in traffic with DC. Together you both might have 1 idea...Na who am I kidding. You can't teach stupid.
VOLS Class of 93'

usnavyvol writes:

in response to DennisVols:

Actually this team is better and not just the so called stats the Adams tries to point out as better. This team went into Gainesville and fought hard for 60 mins, not just 1 qtr or 1 half as I have seen the last several years. If wins and losses are all you are going to look at for a team that was desperately in need of a change and a rebuilding that was long over due then no you don't see much of a change.
Last years Vols would have lost the UF game by the 4 TD's predicted this year without Fulmer getting under Meyer's skin, they would have lost yesterday's Aurburn game by at least 21 points all because under Fulmer they gave up. Don't tell me you can't see that difference in this team and the one put on the field for the past decade.
This team has not developed the continuity necessary yet to overcome the mistakes or even prevent them that have cost them at least 2 of the 3 losses. I don’t wear Orange colored glasses or even drink the so called kool-ade being pushed by some but at the same time I don’t give in to the theory that wins and losses are the only thing that counts when you are rebuilding a team that has spent most of the last decade learning how to lose rather than win.
UT does not have all the necessary pieces to win the games we want them to right now. Maybe it is Fulmer’s fault the cupboard is thin, maybe some highly rated talent just didn’t pan put. That is history and it cannot be changed. Like kicking a dead dog, it just ain’t getting up to hunt.
There are obvious improvements on this team/ Competitiveness, Energy, Drive, Discipline are just some of the things that are night & day from the last several years. Now it my not make a big difference in the win/loss column this year but it will in the years ahead as the talent level gets rebuilt at UT, and it is getting rebuilt. The win/loss column is not going to affect recruiting in a negative way this year as some of the loppers suggest. The recruits coming in have seen the improvements I have just stated and they see the outstanding coaching staff assembled. Rebuilding is going to happen one step at a time. No magic wand to be waved, it will take a couple of years to be complete, but there are obvious improvements already made on this team that anyone with knowledge of football can surely see.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

Good post Dennis..and for crying out 99gaturd when ur done kissing Urbans a** don't forget to lick clean Timmy's jock strap....TROLL..
VOLS Class of 93.

dma38256#264746 writes:

in response to volsfan4ever:

Well said!!In this day of instant gratification I guess people can't be patient.I'm as fustrated as anybody right now but what can you do?Kiffin is doing the best he can with what he's got to work with.I do wish he would give stephens a shot.But last year we were in the same situation and stephens didn't do any better.I would like to see if he has improved though.I feel for our defense,you can't stay on the field that long.If people are pissed(as I am)go talk to fulmer!He got us in this mess!Why do you think he got fired!

Well said 4ever...I've been an Orangeblooded VOL fan since about 1948 and, while I hate to see the shape we're in, we are improving every game, and that even goes for Crompton. Glad to see you mention the fact that "instant gratification" seems to be the word of the day for many of the posters here, many of which probably never played a down in their lives, and most of which are trolls anyway...we need to look at the season as a whole and not just each game in this rebuilding season. I think the staff is doing all they can with what they were given to work with. It seems that Stephens and Crompton were about equally as inept last year (and I was one who preferred to see Stephens start this year).

Grantham_Vol writes:

in response to DennisVols:

What should we have expected this year?
Well let’s start by looking at what we had coming into this season. Two QB’s that have had a different OC every year they have been here with a different offensive scheme in each of those years. Now some will say that doesn’t make any difference but try to imagine having the same job for part of the year, with limited time to prepare (NCAA rules) and every time you come back to work you have a different boss with a different approach on how you are to perform your job. Two of those bosses (Sanders & Clawson) didn’t have a clue as how to use you to the best of your ability. Now maybe someone with a greater ability to adjust to change could be doing a better job than Crompton or Stephens but there is a lot to be said for stability when it comes to success on a football team especially at the QB position. Face it, “it is what it is” and there is no one waiting in the wings that can do a better job than what we see right now. To switch QB’s right now would be to go backward 4 weeks ago to the UCLA game all over again. The passing game is all about timing and right now our timing is off partly due to injuries that prevented Jones and Moore from getting valuable practice time during camp. We won’t discuss Warren right now, not enough space to discuss that disappointment.
There are way too many dropped passes. It is bad enough when the passes are not nearly as accurate as they should be, but there have been way too many opportunities lost from the receivers not catching the ball when they should and not running the routes the way they should. To make it worse the mistakes seem to come from the veteran receivers more so than the freshmen.
So now we have an offense that has struggled to do what is necessary to win games, but this did not just happen this year. Only 4 times has UT won 10 or more games since the ’98 NC, since the ’98 NC UT is 3-5 in bowl games, lost the SEC title game all 4 times they played in it, were 4-16 against the teams in the conference they need to beat over the last 4 years which also included 2 losing seasons. So don’t expect a miracle this year. There are too many things that have gone wrong for the past decade that any coach could erase in the first year. Many try to compare Auburn to UT and where they think we should be. Auburn did not have the decade of learning how to lose thusly did not have as far to go.
Finally stop paying attended to loppers who come here only to insight anger and try and divide the fan base. Their comments have no merit to them and are childless in their intention to draw attention to themselves.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

Probably the best comment i've read on here so far. We dont have enough talent yet. Depth is an issue on both the o and d-lines. As far as Crompton... I feel sorry for the kid. I'm tired of reading about him on here. The guy is not a great quarterback but he's playing smarter. He's made audibles at the line and got us some decent yardage. He's got a freakin cannon for an arm. When he's confident he can make any throw on the field. When kiffin put the game on him in the fourth quarter he shined. Confidence issuse have plagued the kid and i'm sure reading negative comment after comment hasn't helped at all. I'm still optomistic that this team will improve. As far as wins and losses... 6-6, 7-5 and a bowl game would be big and and quite frankly more than should be expected. I say stick with the running game and let Cromton finish the season. If any thing it will give Stephens a full year in this system before the next spring and fall camps. With Bray coming in and hopefully one more QB there will be plenty of competition. Also think of the receivers coming in next year. Lets take it one season at a time folks. If fulmer were coaching the game we'd have lost by 23. Rebuilding takes time and patients is not exactly something Vol fans have a lot of. With the recruiting these coaches are doing this team will get better. I wouldn't be suprised if we see a big improvement next season.

CRFVols writes:

Ok.....well the season isn't over yet....and we can thank Montario Hardesty for that ranking. Just think, if we had a quarterback....we could be much higher.

Still...the fact is we can't win games against decent opponents. Our only goal that could possibly left this season is to not have a worse record than last season.

I'll predict 5-7 again, finishing up with wins against Memphis, Vandy, and KY. But even those aren't a given. Could be 4-8.

CRFVols writes:

Anyone else having trouble posting comments?

Why are we going away from what works? The Nu-gun....our tight ends...I don't understand it. Kiffin doesn't seem to go back to something if it works.

oldvol48 writes:

in response to volsfan4ever:

Well said!!In this day of instant gratification I guess people can't be patient.I'm as fustrated as anybody right now but what can you do?Kiffin is doing the best he can with what he's got to work with.I do wish he would give stephens a shot.But last year we were in the same situation and stephens didn't do any better.I would like to see if he has improved though.I feel for our defense,you can't stay on the field that long.If people are pissed(as I am)go talk to fulmer!He got us in this mess!Why do you think he got fired!

Wow, you guys must have been at a different game. I wasn't sitting in the cheap seats and it was not good what I was hearing. Vol nation has been split before but I'm not sure we don't have a real problem. I didn't see much coaching from the head man on the sidelines, just the assistants and I know a few other coaches in the SEC that would have been in a lot of folks faces during that game. Reality is often difficult to accept....Do we have a Pete Carroll who can recruite the best but seems to always underachieve based on his talent pool?

jst4tdyvols writes:

if we can not through the ball i wish we would line up in the wish bone and run every play. GO VOLS

Cldvols1 writes:

I'll keep this short and sweet. Just win one more game than last year and muster a .500 record. We'll go to a bowl game, definitely not one we want, but atleast a December matchup. There, improvement over last year. Go Vols!

PharmDVol writes:

Sure, we're "Statistically improved" on offense this year and at the middle of the pack statistically in the NCAA; However, if we hadn't played a high school team the first game and racked up 600+ yards of total offense and 63 points, where would be statistically? The last 3 games have been close and with a good quarterback, heck, even with a subpar quarterback we would be 3-2 if not 4-1. A good qb and we may have sung Rocky Top all night long in Gainesville. My issue is obviously with the qb. Sure the guy loves TN football and no doubt gives 120% to being a Vol and I respect that. I have no doubts that in the spring workouts and throughout fall camp he was more impressive than Stephens. Even during practice now, he may be more accurate and make better decisions. However, I can't help but think of a term my dad used to use with some of his high school players - "professional practicer". He'd always say that some kids play lights out in practice but when faced with gametime nerves and adversity, they panic and lose all composure. I believe that to be the case with JC. Did he win the job in fall camp? Yes. Is he better in practice every week? Sure, I'll give him that. Should he still be the starting qb at the University of TN after his performances on saturdays? Heck no! It's Time... time for a change at QB

CRFVols writes:

Just listened to JC's post game comments.......worthless.

VOLKING writes:

in response to DennisVols:

Well since every team mentioned in the article have played a so called W.Ky game this year you would have to discount those from their respective records and we would still be right where we are. UCLA's defense is still ranked as one of the best in the nation as is UF. How many of the teams mentioned in this article have faced 2 defenses ranked as high as the ones UT has faced? Just how good would their record be? LSU played GA one of the worst defense's ranked in the nation.
Keeping it Real
Go Vols!!!

You, sir, may be the most grounded and intelligent Vol fan on here. Everyone wants results now. Ain't gonna happen with what he had to work with. Trolls posing as Vol fans are here just to stir the ire of idiot-Vol fans. It seems to be working. Those of us who have played before know all too well that it will take time and recruiting...plus patience from the fan base. From now on, DennisVols' posts will be one of the few I still read and expect thoughtful, mature and educated insight.

bippy58 writes:

john ward said it best "its time". i think its time for john adams to go. in the time that football has started he has mentioned last years 5-7 mark at least 3 times per week and sometimes more. this to go along with his borish writing makes me think its time for him to go. we as readers don't need the obvious stated we need something interesting to read. it is time for the NS to find another sports editor that can give us something new to grasp not the obvious.

kb7398#233189 writes:

Last year's team could've scored 60 and had 600 yards against WKU...stats can be manipulated. This team is still not winning 6 games and they might not even win 5.

BRING BACK A UT MAN AS HEAD COACH

Razzle writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie:

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Great points huh? "On any given Saturday any SEC team can beat any other SEC team. That said, I have to think that you're in trouble with just about any of the SEC teams left on your schedule." Isn't Florida an SEC team? You guys get more Gaytarded every week.

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