Vince Dooley's presence at clinic 'odd' for UT head football coach Derek Dooley

"I am always worried about him evaluating me ... like, what am I doing wrong out here? That's human nature."

Derek Dooley

UT head football coach Derek Dooley during the first day of UT spring football practice Thursday, Mar. 18, 2010 at Haslam Field on campus.

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UT head football coach Derek Dooley during the first day of UT spring football practice Thursday, Mar. 18, 2010 at Haslam Field on campus.

Vince Dooley

Vince Dooley

Derek Dooley is still getting used to the legend looking over his shoulder.

Father or not, Vince Dooley still has a distinguished air about him even after three decades have past since he won a national championship at Georgia.

"It was really weird when I had my first (head coaching) job," Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley said. "It was odd. The first time he talked to my team at Louisiana Tech, I was like 'Man, this is backwards. Something isn't right.'

"Over the course of three years, you just get settled in. That's kind of how it is now."

But it may never be completely comfortable.

"I am always worried about him evaluating me," Dooley said, perhaps joking, perhaps not. "Like, what am I doing wrong out here? That's human nature."

It was a little bit odd for onlookers as well, to see Vince Dooley walking the same turf that Gen. Robert Neyland once did.

Pictures were snapped by those attending Derek Dooley's first UT coaching clinic. Some even mustered enough courage to ask for an autograph from the elder Dooley after he addressed the Vols following Thursday's practice.

If Vince Dooley's presence was odd for his son, imagine how it was for the father, who spent 25 seasons coaching against UT at Georgia.

"It's a little strange," Vince Dooley admitted. "I'm slowly getting used to it. But on the other hand, I started in orange at Auburn. My high school was orange.

"Derek was orange in Virginia. But I hadn't been around orange in a long time. So it's a little strange, but when you talk about family, you don't see any color."

Derek Dooley said having his father at practice was awesome but joked that he wasn't too pleased with his father's choice of attire.

"I was a little disappointed he came out here in red but it was checkerboard," Derek said, referring to his father's button-up shirt.

The orange-clad Dooley said UT booster Jim Haslam bought his father a Tennessee hat, but not a UT hat. Haslam figured a red hat with the Tennessee state emblem on it would be compromise enough.

Perhaps, but the elder statesman of Georgia football wasn't wearing it on Thursday.

"I think it's a great starting point to try to lure him to our side," Derek Dooley joked.

Vince Dooley spent so long at Georgia that it's easy to forget he played and coached at Auburn. When the Bulldogs came calling, he jumped at the challenge, much like his son did when UT courted him in January.

"You never know when those opportunities come," Vince Dooley said. "That's why it's always important to be prepared. I got an opportunity at a very early age going to Georgia but that was not my plan.

"I think (Derek has) prepared himself well. He has a great appreciation for this league and a great appreciation for Tennessee."

Such appreciation will only go so far. Vince Dooley is familiar with the Vols from following the SEC. Most, including this coaching legend, isn't expecting a quick return to excellence for UT.

"He's got a tough job," Vince Dooley said. "I don't think there's any question about that. Playing in this league, I think there's been not the caliber of recruiting maybe in the last few years that there ought to be in order to play at that highest level. So he's going to have to build a program."

Vince Dooley achieved his greatest heights with Heisman Trophy winner Herschel Walker in the backfield. After watching practice on Thursday, he didn't see any of that ilk running around in orange.

"Nope," Vince Dooley said. "I haven't seen many Herschel Walkers anywhere."

Derek Dooley will rely on some of his father's teachings to rebuild UT - whether he knows it or not. Vince Dooley said there's surely been some "osmosis" to help his son create a coaching base, but with a long mentorship under Nick Saban, Derek Dooley has created his own coaching style.

The Dooleys talk as often as they can. The elder Dooley, however, understands all too well the demands on his son's time. That sentiment isn't shared by everyone in the family.

"His mother doesn't understand that he's busy," Vince Dooley joked. "She thinks when she calls he ought to be there to talk to her."

When the two Dooley men discuss the family business, it's not about scheme; it's usually about everything concerning leading a football program except for the Xs and Os.

The two likely won't need to talk fundamentals either. Both have a firm grasp on that and if there's any questions, a steadfast UT tradition is at hand: Neyland's Maxims.

"I practiced a lot of those things myself and sometimes didn't know they were his maxims but they were," Vince Dooley said. "I found out about that later."

Evidently, even legends can learn a thing or two.

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pdhuff#552644 writes:

Thanks Vince.

Some of us also think the caliber of recruiting has been suspect at times over the past few years.

Corch 'em, HCDD.

We're with you.

How many days?

punkin writes:

Momma Dooley will make ole Vince come around. He'll be wearing orange by the first game.

Georgia_Dave writes:

first. Vince xan come around as long as he is there to help DD. GBO

Georgia_Dave writes:

Well I thought I was first. You really need fast fingers to beat you guys!

GerryOP writes:

Nice article Hook, good job. Nice insight into the Dooley family. I think we got us a winner.

AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons writes:

You UGA fans will hate it when you finally see your best coach ever wearing orange. It will happen.

RoadTrip writes:

Well written, DH. Informational, fair and balanced.

brokebackvol writes:

Eh, Vince could wear Auburn colors if he wanted to be neutral about it. I want him wearing bulldog red when his son beats the bulldogs (maybe not THIS season, though.) Gonna be a tough row to hoe this first go-round, but I'm much happier not having ole whats his name flappin' his gums talkin' trash.

volthrunthru#658770 writes:

Three grammatical mistakes in one article are three too many for a professional journalist, Dave.

1. First paragraph: "have past" is incorrect; "have passed" is correct.

2. 20th paragraph: "Most, including this coaching legend, isn't expecting" is incorrect;
"are expecting" is correct.

You can find the other major one yourself.

The newspaper---and readership---deserves writers who can write English at the level good sportswriters are supposed to write.

Dave, you need to get your head straight, write the Language as if you loved and respected it, and stop the bush league slamming together of words and lines.

AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons writes:

volthrunthru#658770,
It's Friday night, maybe he is already partying too much!

AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons writes:

in response to DC_10point0:

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Yeah. You read the article. Then comment on it with others. Not just come in here to stur up stuff with rival fans...

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/...

AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons writes:

in response to FARRAGUT0406:

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And for only the 2nd or 3rd time ever....

we agree on something!

tnsportsman writes:

As bad as I hate GA, Vince Dooley is a class act! He was Auburn born and GA raised. When the AL Governor gave him a blank check to come back to Auburn he said NO. That kind of commitment is why CDD will be at UT a long time.

Ms Barbara says she is wearing THE BIG ORANGE, get use to it Vince!

GO VOLS!

AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons writes:

Yep. Barbara you use that UGA money Vince earned to buy orange merchandise and support the " T "

FWBVol writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Three grammatical mistakes in one article are three too many for a professional journalist, Dave.

1. First paragraph: "have past" is incorrect; "have passed" is correct.

2. 20th paragraph: "Most, including this coaching legend, isn't expecting" is incorrect;
"are expecting" is correct.

You can find the other major one yourself.

The newspaper---and readership---deserves writers who can write English at the level good sportswriters are supposed to write.

Dave, you need to get your head straight, write the Language as if you loved and respected it, and stop the bush league slamming together of words and lines.

If you were in, or ever had been in, the newspaper business you would understand a reporter writes and a copy editor, well, edits copy.

Yes, Dave made some mistakes that he did not catch and were not caught by those copy editors. And while those mistakes were regrettable, until you pointed them out, I would dare say most people didn't catch them or didn't care because they weren't so major as to change the factual content of the story.

Today's reporters are expected to do more than ever before as staff shrink during economic hard times and the Internet continues to grow as a venue of choice from which readers get their news.

I know of people that go over a newspaper with a fine-tooth comb looking for mistakes that they bring to the attention of others, and in turn, bring attention to themself.

Again, if you were in, or ever had been in, the industry, you would understand that.

Nobody hates making a mistake worse than the guy writing the story, and that comes from someone with approximately 3,000 by lined stories under my belt and more than three mistakes.

I don't always agree with what Dave writes, but I always appreciate his efforts on the behalf of those of us who are hungry for information about the Vols.

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Three grammatical mistakes in one article are three too many for a professional journalist, Dave.

1. First paragraph: "have past" is incorrect; "have passed" is correct.

2. 20th paragraph: "Most, including this coaching legend, isn't expecting" is incorrect;
"are expecting" is correct.

You can find the other major one yourself.

The newspaper---and readership---deserves writers who can write English at the level good sportswriters are supposed to write.

Dave, you need to get your head straight, write the Language as if you loved and respected it, and stop the bush league slamming together of words and lines.

At least Dave didn't lead in with Derek Dooley he is still getting used to the legend looking over his shoulder.

windy writes:

first page on Yahoo, Federal Aviation Association released the names of private planes that had their flight paths blocked, by some technical jumbo, so no one would know where they were flying. Guess who was first on list, Yep good old Ala. and Miss. Could there be another investigation on the way. Ala is still trying to hide everything.

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons:

Yeah. You read the article. Then comment on it with others. Not just come in here to stur up stuff with rival fans...

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/...

When did that start?
WHY WASN'T I TOLD?

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to Navalorange:

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Naval, If that was the biggest mistake you made all day, you had a much better Saturday than I did.

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to FARRAGUT0406:

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Auburn has indeed been on probation on more occasions that any other SEC school. But at least they manage to get off probation once in a while.

NoSirRee writes:

in response to DC_10point0:

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Haha yeah good point I stopped reading most of them awhile ago. This is slightly off topic, but has anyone ever watched the "spots animal" with Adams and that other guy? I was bored waiting to stream the Masters and watched 10 minutes. That was the most awkward piece of radio I've ever seen/heard. It was so bad it made me feel uncomfortable and apparently they don't screen the calls AT ALL. This one "enlightened" fan called and didn't even know any of the player's names he mentioned, haha. Anyway, just got a kick out of it.

ncvol17 writes:

If Archie wore UT Orange for 4 years, anyone can - even Vince. I want a Rooster sandwich - where oh where is Smokey Mtn market?

windy writes:

in response to FARRAGUT0406:

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You know, you are right. They don't need any UT fans commenting on them, they do enough damage to them selves. My bad.

V_O_L_S_GO_VOLS_GO writes:

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Yep, that's true, they have been on probation more than the whole Bammer team has teeth, collectively.

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to Navalorange:

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Congratulations Uncle Navy!
Glad it's healthy and wish'em both well for me.
Hope to see you and a few more of my closest friends next Saturday.

Gator_Hater (Inactive) writes:

in response to windy:

first page on Yahoo, Federal Aviation Association released the names of private planes that had their flight paths blocked, by some technical jumbo, so no one would know where they were flying. Guess who was first on list, Yep good old Ala. and Miss. Could there be another investigation on the way. Ala is still trying to hide everything.

Not a big deal, the planes are probably owned by the universities and funded by the athletic department or owned by boosters. Isn't the plane we use Haslam's? If it isn't taxpayer funded and they wanted to keep it private, they didn't break any rules. The lawsuit was between the company and the FAA. The issue is with planes paid for by taxpayers, like the ones used by senators. If a senator used a plane funded by taxpayers to fly to Fiji for vacation and kept it secret through this company, then heck yeah there's a problem. Privately owned planes? Then who cares?

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

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And Bama buys one every few years.

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to Navalorange:

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I can hardly wait.
And if you happen to spot a short, fat, bearded old red-neck leaning on a cane and having the time of his life just to be there, give me a holler!

AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons writes:

Speaking of programs navalorange, I wonder if the Lindys, Athlons, Steele's and such will have time to update the rosters/writeups without Brown, Douglas and Nick S???

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

Thanks man. Hilarious. A bunch I hadn't heard.
Still ROLLING over that earlier link w/Meyer feeding the T. CLASSIC!

AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons writes:

Last year we sat in the south end zone under the Jumbo about 30 rows up rfom the field. right behind coach O commanding some drills.

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

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The only thing? The only thing?
In my opinion, wathching the game, what I saw then and what I have believed ever since, Colt Mccoy was about as injured as John Wayne was killed on Mt. Serabachi

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to FARRAGUT0406:

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Look at the play.
Mccoy was barely touched.

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to FARRAGUT0406:

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Where does young Mr. Mccoy stand in the draft status?

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

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Young Mr. Bradford from O.U. is projected #1 Q.B.
Hardly played his senior year.
Colt Mccoy sets all these records. High winning percentage, high passing percentage, hardly mentioned in the draft.
Do not pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.

rootin4volz writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Three grammatical mistakes in one article are three too many for a professional journalist, Dave.

1. First paragraph: "have past" is incorrect; "have passed" is correct.

2. 20th paragraph: "Most, including this coaching legend, isn't expecting" is incorrect;
"are expecting" is correct.

You can find the other major one yourself.

The newspaper---and readership---deserves writers who can write English at the level good sportswriters are supposed to write.

Dave, you need to get your head straight, write the Language as if you loved and respected it, and stop the bush league slamming together of words and lines.

Amen, brother...Amen. Although I'm sure Hooker could give a rat's azz. If you listen to him on the radio at all, you kind of wonder how his ego fits into the broadcast booth with him...he pretty much feels like he can do or say (or perhaps even write) no wrong.

cloudodust writes:

in response to AtLeastMyTeamHasPerfectSeasons:

You UGA fans will hate it when you finally see your best coach ever wearing orange. It will happen.

Maybe on game days with one exception in October but it'll be hard to sway CVD to dress appropriately (in Tennessee Orange) everyday. He still lives in Athens, you know...

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to FARRAGUT0406:

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At last we agree. I too believe it was WHERE he was hit.
The hip pocket is a VERY tender location.

always_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to FARRAGUT0406:

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You know, though, watching Texas Tech under Leach was TREMENDOUS fun.

In its day, watching Bama, Okie, and Nebraska run the triple-option was fun, too (and Texas, too, right??)

Still, I know what you mean.

Great post.

always_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to Lostvolinhighweeds:

Where does young Mr. Mccoy stand in the draft status?

I can't picture the dude being all that succesufl, but you never know. Drew Brees surprised me, too.

Then, you look at Cutler, Can't miss who has struggled like crazy.

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to always_vol:

You know, though, watching Texas Tech under Leach was TREMENDOUS fun.

In its day, watching Bama, Okie, and Nebraska run the triple-option was fun, too (and Texas, too, right??)

Still, I know what you mean.

Great post.

In its' day, the only thing more fun (and frustrating) than watching those teams run the wish-bone was watching everybody else try to stop it.

always_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to Lostvolinhighweeds:

In its' day, the only thing more fun (and frustrating) than watching those teams run the wish-bone was watching everybody else try to stop it.

I loved playing against the wishbone. Why?? Well, I played defensive tackle, so basically every play I got to hit somebody~!!!

I hated playing the shotgun teams...here is the whole game:

pop, pop, chop; the O-lineman pops you twice with his hands, then goes for your legs to keep your from jumping up

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to always_vol:

I can't picture the dude being all that succesufl, but you never know. Drew Brees surprised me, too.

Then, you look at Cutler, Can't miss who has struggled like crazy.

I cannot picture him as making it either.
But the question was not rhetorical.
Where does Colt Mccoy stand compared to other quarterbacks in this draft?
I cannot remember him even being MENTIONED.
PLESAE, feel free to correct me if I am as WRONG now as I so often am.

always_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to FARRAGUT0406:

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Bryant had something like 7 offensive teams one year, I think.

Back then you could have, what, 120 on the roster, or more??

Bear used to sign guys just to keep them from going to another SEC school.

He almost got Fulmer, who was a stud offensive tackle. He did get Robert Fraley, a QB from the same school.

Tennessee was fun in those days, too: Frank Howell, Joe Graham, James Woody...

always_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to FARRAGUT0406:

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Probably the most memorable to me was the one Tony Robinson engineered. The man was a great QB.

I remember sometime back then UT was getting on an even keel with Bama...towards the end, Bama was at times squeaking out wins.

always_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to Lostvolinhighweeds:

I cannot picture him as making it either.
But the question was not rhetorical.
Where does Colt Mccoy stand compared to other quarterbacks in this draft?
I cannot remember him even being MENTIONED.
PLESAE, feel free to correct me if I am as WRONG now as I so often am.

I just don't know. I don't pay a lot of attention to the draft.

UT used to have a lot of guys drafted. Then, as the program slipped, the guys dropped down to free agents.

You wonder how that impacted them financially. WE still put a lot of guys on pro teams.

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to always_vol:

I loved playing against the wishbone. Why?? Well, I played defensive tackle, so basically every play I got to hit somebody~!!!

I hated playing the shotgun teams...here is the whole game:

pop, pop, chop; the O-lineman pops you twice with his hands, then goes for your legs to keep your from jumping up

I played center for awhile.
Have we met?

always_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to FARRAGUT0406:

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Listened to the game on the radio.

always_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to Lostvolinhighweeds:

I played center for awhile.
Have we met?

what HS, what year??

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