WR Hunter held out for NCAA Clearinghouse

Tennessee is awaiting a thumbs-up from the NCAA Clearinghouse before reinstating freshman receiver Justin Hunter to practice.

Hunter, one of the top-rated signees in UT’s freshman class, was absent for a second day of practice Friday.

A thumbs-down is considered extremely unlikely, but until the Vols get a verdict, the talented freshman will be on the shelf.

At issue is an online class Hunter took during the summer of 2009, coach Derek Dooley said.

The 6-foot-4 Hunter, from Virginia Beach, Va., has been impressive since joining the squad for fall camp.

He spent much of his summer competing in track and field, finishing sixth in the long jump at the world junior championships.

UT has turned all of its paperwork over to the Clearinghouse, thus the case is now out of Tennessee’s hands.

Earlier this week Alabama lost freshman linebacker Alfy Hill due to a Clearinghouse issue over two online classes he took at his North Carolina high school. It is not clear to what extent Hunter’s case parallels Hill’s.

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mdvol writes:

I'm sure they will clear Hunter.....it'll just take a month.

lomas98 writes:

in response to mdvol:

I'm sure they will clear Hunter.....it'll just take a month.

This process can take a while. The longer this takes the worse it will end up. I don't understand all of the clearinghouse issues not only at UT but at other schools. Wouldn't you think they should know about these before being accepted into a university.

ProwlinAndGrowlinSmokeyDog writes:

He will get cleared..I am not even worried about it.

CHITOWNVOL writes:

am i so removed from today's world that I am surprised high school kids are even taking online courses? are these college courses? high school courses? how would one graduate and not be accepted to UT with classes remaining? what gives?

JohnnyU writes:

It should be called the NCAA Obstructionhouse.

Whiskey_Wizard writes:

This kid is a stud. Will probably be better than Rogers. GO VOLS!

always_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to lomas98:

This process can take a while. The longer this takes the worse it will end up. I don't understand all of the clearinghouse issues not only at UT but at other schools. Wouldn't you think they should know about these before being accepted into a university.

It's because the NCAA continues to masquerade as 'for the student athlete'. Total bull.

There are two types of athletes:
those who want sports AND and education, and those who just want to focus on sports.

IMHO, schools should accommodate both. Let the kids who want to use the free ride to get a meaningful degree go for it. For the others, make them take classes in areas that can help them out in life (ak-47 maintenance, drive-by tactics, build-a-bong, tattoo-tricks). Seriously, offer an 'education core' curriculum for athletes or ANY student who wants to learn career skills in combination with life skills: basic finances, how to work as a contractor, legal system basics, business basics.

Hunter may well be a regular kid who wants a degreee, and maybe struggles some in school. Same thing for the bama kid. They should be in school, should be on the field.

oskie_score writes:

And the hits just keep comin'...

TommyJack writes:

Someone needs to clear the Clearinghouse. Got to be a better system.

RandRams writes:

Darn that NCAA Clearinghouse...they just lurk in the shadows. Never know when they might jump out.

Well, could be worse---like a season ending injury.

whistlinwingman writes:

The Clearinghouse should have this stuff cleared up before the kids even put on the pads. Deciding to clear it up two weeks before the first game is plum ridiculous.

tnsportsman writes:

When will college sports, their donors, alum and fans wise up and DUMP the NCAA? The NCAA is out of date in 2010 for college sports. They sit in Indy with their 1 billion in reserve wanting athletes and universities to commit a violation!

It's time the Big Business of College Sports says Bye to the NCAA! University Presidents and ADs you better listen and hear your support money, enough is enough! The NCAA could care less about fans, donors and alum, WE ARE YOUR CASH COW Universities!

GO VOLS, WE ARE UT!

apisonvolfan writes:

It's like we're f****** cursed

springtx_vol writes:

in response to tnsportsman:

When will college sports, their donors, alum and fans wise up and DUMP the NCAA? The NCAA is out of date in 2010 for college sports. They sit in Indy with their 1 billion in reserve wanting athletes and universities to commit a violation!

It's time the Big Business of College Sports says Bye to the NCAA! University Presidents and ADs you better listen and hear your support money, enough is enough! The NCAA could care less about fans, donors and alum, WE ARE YOUR CASH COW Universities!

GO VOLS, WE ARE UT!

When are all of the folks who post comments like this finally understand that the NCAA is the universities? This is not a government beauracracy that randomly makes rules. The NCAA is the university presidents that have the final say on everything, including the lack of a playoff system.

The schools are getting exactly what the university presidents want. No more, no less. We just have to learn to deal with it.

The SEC could withdraw from the NCAA anytime it wanted to. If all of the Div 1 football schools wanted to withdraw from the NCAA and start their own organization, no one could stop them. I had hope several years ago that the old CFA would do just that. So much for dreams.

alwaysVol writes:

wish the season would start already

CoverOrange writes:

Friend of a friend told me the story of his daughter that had a scholarship to play volleyball. A month before she was supposed to start school they get notice from the Clearinghouse that they need info on a class she took in 10th grade. A month notice on a class taken two years prior. She ended up going to a smaller school with no scholarship. Gee pay your way, no problem, free ride, oh no, no admittance.

Problems are the wide variety of standards (or lack thereof) that school systems have for certain classes, indifference of teachers and/or counselors to advise students appropriately, inability of the NCAA to communicate what classes meet its requirements.

It is BS that players can't even practice waiting on the Clearinghouse. The least they should do is declare red (or grey) shirt status and sign up for remedial classes as appropriate.

VolGrad writes:

I became aware of HS kids taking online classes this past summer as I was tutoring. In one case, a girl had failed a particular Algebra class and had to retake it online. However, I don't know much more beyond that about it.

SeanJean writes:

Fark the NCAA. Such horsesh*t.

tdvol1989 writes:

in response to whistlinwingman:

The Clearinghouse should have this stuff cleared up before the kids even put on the pads. Deciding to clear it up two weeks before the first game is plum ridiculous.

You got that right. This is from 2009. This should have come up before he ever enrolled at UT. This is unfair to the University and the Student Athlete (the politically correct term). Wouldn't it be sad if it is determined that Hunter is ineligible because credit for the class will not be granted at this point in time? I am sure he could have done something during the summer to take care of it. Now, what can he do?

"I have to tell you Granny, this blows"
Texas Ranger (Talladega Nights)

Huttdawg100 writes:

"All I'm trying to do is not get yelled at"- Justin Hunter.

Hillbilly_Orange writes:

Is this the clearinghouse that Ed McMahon was with?

OwensboroVol writes:

Why is it that this kids (from all schools)do not know yet if they can play? Either the NCAA or the schools are dropping the ball. I assume it is the NCAA because it wouldn't be happening at every school if it were the schools fault. As long as the recruiting system has been going on it would seem the NCAA could get its work done before Fall Camp begins. This is just another example of the NCAA not being a professional organization.

DannyVol writes:

Every stinking year right before the season begins these NCAA clowns pull this mess with one of our impact freshmen. You would think that by the time camp starts the process would be complete.

CroKev writes:

Whereas I agree that the NCAA is top heavy and takes way too long to get back to their member institutions with answers, I must admit that they went up a few notches in my mind after the USC ruling...

nola_vol writes:

in response to CHITOWNVOL:

am i so removed from today's world that I am surprised high school kids are even taking online courses? are these college courses? high school courses? how would one graduate and not be accepted to UT with classes remaining? what gives?

I recently talked to a guy whose daughter is currently, because of the on-line courses she has taken, attained the status of a college JUNIOR... even as she now begins her senior year of HIGH SCHOOL!

Colleges that have just accepted her application are simultaneously pressuring her to declare a major... strange new world.

AncientVol writes:

This article is very poorly written. It does not explain why some online course was a potential problem with NCAA clearinghouse. Online course taken when and why? What's wrong with such a course? What NCAA rule would have been violated? Lousy journalism, explains nothing.

CoverOrange writes:

in response to AncientVol:

This article is very poorly written. It does not explain why some online course was a potential problem with NCAA clearinghouse. Online course taken when and why? What's wrong with such a course? What NCAA rule would have been violated? Lousy journalism, explains nothing.

Mike is in a strange position (pun intended). Freshman are off limits so he can't ask Justin directly. Academic records are private so he can't review those. The NCAA doesn't publish their requirements or standards so he can't peruse those to figure out which rule applied. All he has to go on is what the UTAD mouth said.

volman79 writes:

in response to slaw_way:

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That's funny!

Razor784 writes:

in response to slaw_way:

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UNC needed us way more than we needed them, the ACC is the minor leagues compared to the SEC

TommyJack writes:

in response to CoverOrange:

Mike is in a strange position (pun intended). Freshman are off limits so he can't ask Justin directly. Academic records are private so he can't review those. The NCAA doesn't publish their requirements or standards so he can't peruse those to figure out which rule applied. All he has to go on is what the UTAD mouth said.

Thanks, Mike.

volfan2002 writes:

Not really clear why it takes the clearinghouse so long to clear anybody. If ever anything needs to be fixed it is the clearinghouse. It would certainly help college football to clear up things like this quickly.

Mule_Days_King writes:

in response to slaw_way:

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Sorry. Can't hear you. Your perennial football irrelevance is deafening.

Psychovol writes:

in response to CroKev:

Whereas I agree that the NCAA is top heavy and takes way too long to get back to their member institutions with answers, I must admit that they went up a few notches in my mind after the USC ruling...

Yet it took them way too long. What if it hadn't taken them so long? The college landscape might be completely different. Why does it take them so long to complete investigations of impropriety and clear classes for incoming freshmen? It's not like they haven't known about both for a long time.

Psychovol writes:

in response to Razor784:

UNC needed us way more than we needed them, the ACC is the minor leagues compared to the SEC

Yet the mighty Vols ran scared.

tnsportsman writes:

in response to springtx_vol:

When are all of the folks who post comments like this finally understand that the NCAA is the universities? This is not a government beauracracy that randomly makes rules. The NCAA is the university presidents that have the final say on everything, including the lack of a playoff system.

The schools are getting exactly what the university presidents want. No more, no less. We just have to learn to deal with it.

The SEC could withdraw from the NCAA anytime it wanted to. If all of the Div 1 football schools wanted to withdraw from the NCAA and start their own organization, no one could stop them. I had hope several years ago that the old CFA would do just that. So much for dreams.

I agree with you a 100%! I have preached the old CFA for years, just like Bryant, Dye, Dooley, Majors and all the old famous coaches. They saw what was coming years ago, just couldn't get the TV contract to go along.

I know the Presidents control the NCAA. They all need to understand Fans, Donors and Ticket Holders are fed up and want the change! We can make them see the light with NO BUCKS!

GO VOLS, WE ARE UT!

tnsportsman writes:

in response to aviator1:

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AMEN Aviator!

The NCAA and College Presidents don't care one bit about Fans, Donors and Ticket Holders! The NCAA has 1 billion dollars, besides TV where did they get the rest if that money? LOL, I guess!

GO VOLS, WE ARE UT!

sambad writes:

It is easy to despise the NCAA but then you have those moments of appreciation. USC comes to mind. How else could we have enjoyed Laney Boy getting his baby fingers slapped?

Who needs North Carolina? They are afraid to schedule us in B-Ball.

tonyvick#213307 writes:

dam...dam...dam

PumpUptheVOLume writes:

Brian Randolph, Kell safety (committed to Tennessee): He’s the only member of the AJC Super 11 playing in the Classic. Randolph rarely comes off the field, starting at both safety and tailback, along with playing all special teams. Last year as a junior, Randolph rushed for 1,303 yards with 10 touchdowns and registered 137 tackles with three interceptions — despite playing severe shoulder injury. Said Kell coach Derek Cook, “He proved to me over and over as a sophomore he was special. [Against Lassiter in 2008] he had a monster hit on the running back … it was the hardest hit I have ever seen in person. That kids earpads went flying out of his helmet and he was trying to pick his eyeballs up out of the grass with his fingers.” Randolph committed to Tennessee over Georgia Tech, Florida and Stanford.

Jediphysics writes:

No worries folks! I used to teach online HS courses in North Carolina. Even if he cheated on the coursework (difficult to prove), he still had to pass an exam, in person with photo ID, in order to receive credit. At least that's the way we used to do it. If you fail the in-person exam, you fail the course. More info at http://www.ncvps.org/

Colliervol writes:

in response to lomas98:

This process can take a while. The longer this takes the worse it will end up. I don't understand all of the clearinghouse issues not only at UT but at other schools. Wouldn't you think they should know about these before being accepted into a university.

The NCAA is now starting to really crack down on these on-line courses and diploma mill "prep" schools. It might actually force some of these kids to study and pass some courses before they get to their senior year. And it's not just UT. There are numerous other schools and kids in the same boat.

ProwlinAndGrowlinSmokeyDog writes:

in response to Psychovol:

Yet the mighty Vols ran scared.

And what's the UNC basketball Tarheels excuse for running scared from UT..Why wouldn't they schedule us in bball? Please explain.

Pompey writes:

in response to apisonvolfan:

It's like we're f****** cursed

...one sometimes wonders if UT football did'nt have bad luck they would have no luck at all...

licknpromise777#651578 writes:

in response to Pablopeepants:

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my son wasn't going to have enough core credits to graduate;so he took online english courses before his senior year..All were accredited and created by the county and state..It seems to me if the school board accepts the credits and you graduate; Where is the problem???

CoverOrange writes:

in response to TommyJack:

Thanks, Mike.

Anytime, Dave.

CoverOrange writes:

in response to Jediphysics:

No worries folks! I used to teach online HS courses in North Carolina. Even if he cheated on the coursework (difficult to prove), he still had to pass an exam, in person with photo ID, in order to receive credit. At least that's the way we used to do it. If you fail the in-person exam, you fail the course. More info at http://www.ncvps.org/

It may not be about whether he passed the course or not, it may be about whether the class covered the right material to count.

jesusvol4 writes:

Last year it was Bryce Brown the clearinghouse made us wait on. Now, they are slowing down the progress of Justin Hunter. I don't really trust these people. It is not fair to Justin, and not fair to the team. I believe Justin has the potential to make a difference in the chemistry of this offense. I think he will make everyone better. Sometimes you have players like that, that just seem to have a special nature and athleticism about them that makes others around them step up. Clear him already! Go Vols!

Down_The_Field writes:

in response to slaw_way:

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you are so brave to call all of us cowards in this forum.

i have an idea, "brave one."

put a baby blue UNC shirt on; paint your message on a sign; and, show up to the UT-Buffalo game in section O. i'll be glad to buy your ticket tough guy.

back to the subject. this guy's the real deal and i hope to see him play this season.

maddawg writes:

in response to Pompey:

...one sometimes wonders if UT football did'nt have bad luck they would have no luck at all...

Cursed and bad luck aside, if TN wouldn't hire stupid coaches and recruit dumb dumb thugs they would return to their glory days. Unfortunately for Vol fans the program has sunk to a new low.

maddawg writes:

And Kiffin was who I was speaking of, not Dooley.

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