Report: Kiffin starts with two-year bowl ban, loss of more than 20 scholarships

LOS ANGELES — It won't be an easy start for new football coach Lane Kiffin.

A two-year bowl ban and a loss of more than 20 scholarships are among the sanctions that the NCAA has dealt Southern Cal, a source with knowledge of the situation said Wednesday.

The NCAA, the governing body for collegiate sports, informed USC of its decision after a four-year investigation regarding allegations centered on former football player Reggie Bush and former basketball player O.J. Mayo. The NCAA could make its decision public as early as Thursday.

USC officials would not confirm that the school had received the NCAA’s report.

Asked if USC had heard from the NCAA, Athletic Director Mike Garrett said: “We are looking at things right now. That’s about all I can say.”

USC spokesmen said the university would address the situation when the NCAA makes the report public.

Limited recruiting contacts, probation and forfeiture of victories are also among the penalties regarded as possibly in play.

USC sources, who requested anonymity because they are not authorized to speak about the situation publicly, said they were bracing for the worst. One said the school probably would probably utilize an appeal process.

Asked if the sanctions were appropriate, a source said, “It depends how you look at it. It is if you’re a UCLA fan.”

USC had been anxiously awaiting the NCAA’s ruling since a February meeting of the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions. A USC contingent that included Garrett, President Steven Sample, former football coach Pete Carroll, running backs coach Todd McNair and school attorneys and compliance officials appeared before the 10-member committee, which worked from a report prepared by NCAA investigators.

The three-day hearing was the longest such NCAA proceeding in at least a decade.

In January, USC self-sanctioned its basketball program for violations that occurred before and during Mayo’s one-season stay with the Trojans in 2007-08, when the team was coached by Tim Floyd, who also appeared at the infractions committee hearing.

Bush, now with the NFL’s New Orleans Saints, and Mayo, who plays for the NBA’s Memphis Grizzlies, have maintained that they did nothing wrong while attending USC.

Carroll left USC in January to become coach of the Seattle Seahawks. Floyd resigned from USC in June 2009, later citing a lack of support from Garrett. He worked as an assistant for the NBA’s New Orleans Hornets before Texas El Paso hired him as head coach in March.

The NCAA investigation began in March 2006, when reports surfaced that Bush’s mother, brother and stepfather had lived in a San Diego area home that was owned by a would-be marketer who planned to be part of a group that represented Bush when he turned pro.

The Mayo inquiry began in May 2008 after a former associate told ESPN that Mayo received cash and other benefits from Rodney Guillory, an event promoter who helped guide Mayo to USC.

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pbnichols writes:

WOW, wonder how much of this is acurate?

SanFranVol97 writes:

Thank you NCAA! Kiffin enjoy playing two years of practice games.

nocleats writes:

With Ks track record he will only be there fore 2 years, and feast off of Carrols recruits and program.. The damage wont show up for 3 years

Bogus writes:

Sounds good to me. Would be even better if they got a TV ban like Auburn did in the early 90's, but that'll never happen. Question is, if they're gonna lose 20 scholarships, does that take effect in next year's recruiting class, and how many years does it cover? If they're heavy on juniors and seniors, that's gonna hurt bad. Seems like they've only signed between 15-20 in each class the last couple of years. Anybody know the numbers?

volfanwestcoast writes:

Scum on scum. Absolutely love it! Enjoy the next 2 years in Loserville LaLaLand Lane!

BamaVol writes:

That's his dream job

Bogus writes:

Okay, they've got a bout 90 guys on roster right now, excluding the 20 they signed. On said roster, 52 are juniors and seniors. In 2006, they signed 26 guys. Since then, this year's 20 is the highest number they've signed. If they really do lose 20 scholarships, by year three they should have similar depth problems to ours. Now if they get a bowl ban, think about how many guys might jump ship. It's gonna get pretty entertaining out west.

oyamlauxes writes:

Bama fans know how these type of sanctions affect a program. I just hope its even worse with USC.

BigOrangeVol writes:

Dooley needs to raid USC and get Markeith Ambles, Glen Stanley, Nickell Robey, Demetrius Wright, George Uko, Kyle Prater, Robert Woods, Jesse Scroggins, Randall Telfer and Dillon Baxter!

metalhead223 writes:

bwah hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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britt writes:

Hahahahahahahahahahahhaha

Orange_Crush writes:

in response to BigOrangeVol:

Dooley needs to raid USC and get Markeith Ambles, Glen Stanley, Nickell Robey, Demetrius Wright, George Uko, Kyle Prater, Robert Woods, Jesse Scroggins, Randall Telfer and Dillon Baxter!

Because we could sign all of those guys! Oh wait...

10volunteers98 writes:

Finally,some news about Kiffin I can enjoy reading!He`s gonna have to really scramble to earn those millions,now.Way to go,Ambles and any other young man who was gullible enough to follow Kiffin to USC!Too bad Jesse Scroggins.You would have had it better at UT.Looks like what goes around comes around.Huh,Kiff? Man,this is just TOO funny!! GO,VOLS!!!I guess this means Bryce Brown won`t be going West,for sure.

10volunteers98 writes:

Don`t think we need any more receivers,or QB.But,if we could take them from Kiffin,yeah!

UTbassdrummer writes:

in response to BamaVol:

That's his dream job

Best reply ever.

ellerbee123 writes:

And, USC says, "Welcome Home Kiffin". Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! So, you USC football recruits enjoy "practicing".

CroKev writes:

Does anyone know whether a 2010 recruit can de-commit after the school they signed on with gets hit with sanctions like this? I remember OL Seantrel Henderson was waiting until after signing day to commit to USC to find out what the NCAA was going to do. Of course, the NCAA dragged their feet (I'm glad they did in this case based on the results!) and Henderson went ahead and signed. It's just a shame that these kids get penalized and guys like Carroll and Bush make bazillions elsewhere. I also heard USC has to give up it's 2004 championship and what does that mean for Bush's Heisman?

daniellovesutfootball writes:

All I gotta say to this is HAAA flippin HAAAA!!!!!! Serves the little, probably get censored for this, pierce right!!!

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chaos001 writes:

dreams do come true...

...and prayers are answered!!!

LongWayfromHome writes:

"When you wish upon a star
Makes no difference who you are
Anything your heart desires
Will come to you..."

BigOrangeinCharge writes:

I was hoping for something tougher. This is just a slap on the wrist in light of USC getting busted using 3rd parties as proxies to BUY PLAYERS!

All this does is give <name redacted> 2 years of easy excuses.

No bowls the next 2 seasons? Oh well... nothing he could have done to prevent that.

20 scholarships sounds like a lot more of a loss than it really is. All <name redacted> has to do is screw over a few walk ons who'd earned a scholarship, then push a few malcontents and scrubs out the door and it's taken care of. Maybe find "creative" ways of keeping a few players here and there in the program that doesn't invovle athletic dept. scholarships (easily doable at USC).

Can anyone remember the last time a 20 scholarship penalty actually hurt any team, especially an elite one like USC? Didn't Alabama just come off a 20 scholarship reduction like a year ago?

BigOrangeinCharge writes:

This isn't even going to impact recruiting THAT much for USC. Next year's recruiting class will only be looking at a one year postseason ban and, as I said above, <name redacted> will probably take care of the reduction in scholarships by pulling the rug out from under marginal players. It's not like he's ever been known as a man of his word, or been shy about throwing guys out of the program he doesn't feel will contribute.

The real thing that might affect <name redacted>'s success at USC is the expansion of the PAC-10. If Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma St. and Oklahoma all move in to that conference, USC will suddenly find itself facing a lot more competition.

BigOrangeinCharge writes:

And rest assured, if USC makes it back to a bowl in Year 3 and <name redacted> hasn't abandoned them for some pro job, he will take credit and be hyped to the heavens as a brilliant mastermind who saved the program and a model for other coaches to follow.

The postseason ban will hurt USC. But it won't hurt <name redacted>. The scholarship loss will hurt some hard working, blue collar players on USC's roster, but it won't hurt <name redacted>. Quit fooling yourself into thinking this will ruin his career, because unfortunately it won't.

Fulton_Vol writes:

I can't understand why this has taken 4 years to resolve this. ESPN ran a story on the Heisman Trust's possible reaction last week: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/st...

tsaecesnitsebhtruof writes:

in response to BigOrangeVol:

Dooley needs to raid USC and get Markeith Ambles, Glen Stanley, Nickell Robey, Demetrius Wright, George Uko, Kyle Prater, Robert Woods, Jesse Scroggins, Randall Telfer and Dillon Baxter!

Yeah, that's exactly what Dooley needs to do. Stay classy UT fans.

volzcrushm writes:

LOVE IT!!!!!!! AND NOW THE 'DREAM JOB' HAS A FEW QUIRKS IN IT. USC WILL PROBABLY DO FINE W/O A BOWL GAME THE NEXT TWO YEARS.... BUT THE ATTRITION OR LACK OF QUALITY RECRUITS WILL SHOW ON THE THIRD YEAR. SO....LAME(AND OGRE-RON) WILL PROBABLY FIND A NEW 'DREAM JOB' IN TWO YEARS WOULD BE MY GUESS.

volzcrushm writes:

....THUS, ANOTHER PROGRAM TO BE LEFT IN SHAMBLES BY THE KIFF & CO.

Ringside writes:

Still not severe enough. Hopefully Lame and USC both rot in hell. I hope all of his worshipers in Yuma get this article.

wags32 writes:

SWEET JUSTICE!!! LANE, MONTY, ED,JAMES,
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA JERKS........

coalvol writes:

Karma's a bi*ch ain't ain't it Kiffin??

87UTVOL writes:

What I'd like to know is what lies K and O told recruits last year...such as 'that NCAA ain't no big deal, no real punishment, come on and sign with us'. I read some comments from players who signed with the Trojans that K said essentially 'it wasn't nuthin'. Now that the (unofficial) results and punishment have been released, how many feel lied to? Other schools need to let recruits know...THESE GUYS LIE.

heyitsme writes:

I hope USC can somehow file civil action against the former coaches. It is the only way to deter possible future violators...

volsfannsc writes:

I just hope that the NCAA keeps a watchful eye of their recruiting while on probation. Knowing Kiff's & Ogre's MO, I see them pushing the envelope or violating the terms handed down to them. I would love to see them get busted while being busted. Redirecting UT recruits while moving to USC was just down-right underhanded. They pushed the envelope on that one and I see them continuing their slight of hand tactics. I hope UCLA pounces while they can.

tnbigg writes:

A dog always returns to his vomit. Kiffin was a part of the reason for the investigation and as fate would have it he gets to pay the price for what his lack of ethics and morals produced at USC. Question: If Saint Patrick could drive all the snakes out of Ireland...is there someone who can drive all snakes out of USC too? --> http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/dr...

johnnyt39 writes:

This at first seemed to me like, GREAT. THE COACH AND TEAM DESERVE IT! Then after a morning cup of coffee, reality set in: SO WHAT? Does this mean a long term downturn in USC football along with Kiffin, and something good for UT? No way, in either case. Kiffin still is an icon in CA, which means recruiting will be great. For me, a Vol grad and football fan of 50 years, I suspect that coach may again pull some Vol prospects in his direction. In a word that I may use, BLAH! OR So what?

rich182x writes:

Oh bittersweet victory.. This is the first time I am happy after how Kiffin left us. SOO GOOD.

Mr_Bandman writes:

in response to metalhead223:

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Brilliantly stated...but let's go all caps:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pickinhick writes:

Ok, not sure what to wish for here. Should he (you know who) win all his games this year and not be able to play in the BCS? Or, lose enough that it would kill what little chance he has of recruiting? Something about winning the PAC 10 and ruining the entire conference is very attractive.

Mr_Bandman writes:

That little weasel was instrumental in all of the violations at USC. Pete Carroll may not ever suffer for any of this, but CLK is reaping what he sowed. AND---VOL Fans---make no mistake----we are very lucky he left---all the secondary violations, mouthing off in the press, even his bad ending with Al Davis---they were all symptomatic of his brazen disregard for anyone trying to tell him what to do---THIS WOULD HAVE EVENTUALLY HAPPENED TO US!

GreerVol22 writes:

Monte must be so proud....

KiowaVol writes:

Why do bad things happen to good people?

Why? Why??!??!??

Bogus writes:

in response to AthensHomerDawg:

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Wow dude, don't you know Mustain is a redshirt senior?

cloudodust writes:

The NCAA would be wise to open a new field office in between Lane Kiffin's office and Ed Orgeron's broom closet. Wire taps and constant surveillance on USC West could expedite the next round of sactions due in 2015...

cloudodust writes:

in response to listentothemusic:

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It says a whole lot more about Lane Kiffin.

golfballs03 writes:

Good riddance!!

gnm53108 writes:

It's Time.

SavTnVol writes:

in response to CroKev:

Does anyone know whether a 2010 recruit can de-commit after the school they signed on with gets hit with sanctions like this? I remember OL Seantrel Henderson was waiting until after signing day to commit to USC to find out what the NCAA was going to do. Of course, the NCAA dragged their feet (I'm glad they did in this case based on the results!) and Henderson went ahead and signed. It's just a shame that these kids get penalized and guys like Carroll and Bush make bazillions elsewhere. I also heard USC has to give up it's 2004 championship and what does that mean for Bush's Heisman?

What has the NCAA got to do with $C's 2004 championship? They didn't award it to them, so how can they take it away?? It doesn't mean squat about what this ruling means to Bush's Heisman unless the Downtown Athletic Losers want to take it away...After the Manning fiasco, who cares about that POS trophy anyway....GBO....Go Coach DD

Bogus writes:

in response to AthensHomerDawg:

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Pretty sure transfer rules still apply bro. Wouldn't mind some of their talented freshmen or redshirt freshmen, but juniors and seniors? As for Simms, he has more D1 experience than Aaron Murray. Don't know what you're trying to get at there. He's actually thrown a pass in a D1 game.

mlpmal writes:

Wonder how Kiffin's dream job is going for him now? He should have known with Carroll jumping ship that something was coming down. Too bad he led some of our recruits down the drink with him! This might be their first lesson in how the system works and that no one is looking out for them so they had better look out for themselves.

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