Offensive line shuffle continues

Shaw to right guard, Schofield to start

When Tennessee and Ole Miss kick off Saturday, the Vols — barring unforeseen circumstances — will officially have half the number of wins this season as they do different starting offensive line rotations.

That’s by no means an achievement coach Derek Dooley will embrace. He’s not looking for diversity up front.

“You have to communicate up there,” Dooley said at his Monday press conference. “If all five guys aren’t working together in sync, you get disjointed. And that happens to us a lot.”

The latest change to the starting group will likely come when Jarrod Shaw, who has played the past three games at left guard, will move back to the right side to fill in for freshman Zach Fulton (ankle), who is “doubtful” for Saturday’s game (TV: WVLT, noon), Dooley said. JerQuari Schofield would then start at left guard, giving the Vols the same front five that finished Saturday’s 50-14 win at Memphis.

“It used to be ankles were day-to-day,” Dooley said. “I don’t know, we put them in big boots now and you don’t see them for a while. And it’s really hurt us up front.”

Both of Tennessee’s tackles, Dallas Thomas —who played through an ankle injury earlier in the season, albeit poorly — and Ja’Wuan James, have started all nine games at the same position this season. Shaw has been just as healthy, but has flipped and flopped between left and right guard.

Schofield entered the season as UT’s starting left guard, but missed four games after injuring his foot against Florida. He returned to action briefly against South Carolina and played nearly three full quarters against Memphis, but has had a tough time retaining knowledge because of his youth, Dooley said.

Like left guard, UT has started three different players at center. Cody Pope went down against Oregon with a stinger and could likely be done for the season. Darin Gooch, a junior-college transfer, was thrown into action and started six games, but wasn’t effective enough to retain his job.

James Stone, who started three games at left guard after Schofield’s injury, took over at center against Memphis, and that’s where he will likely finish the season.

“He’s just a good presence in the middle,” Dooley said. “He really did some things there that we hadn’t been able to do inside and it helped us.”

Stone’s new presence in the middle, combined with yet another injury, just won’t do much for the chemistry of UT’s O-line, which has been faced with new faces in new places far too often this season.

“You get used to the guy next to you, hearing his voice, what’s his call, you know what he’s going to do,” Dooley said. “It just takes time and experience. And when you get new guys in there all the time now, it’s hard, it’s difficult. Even if you have veteran guys.”

Personnel roundup: Dooley said it would be “unrealistic” to expect cornerback Naz Oliver (knee) to return Saturday for his first game of the season.

“Oliver is full-go, but he’s really not ready,” Dooley said. “Even though it looks good on paper.”

Dooley said he would find out more about cornerback Marsalis Teague (turf toe) at today’s practice.

Dooley said “there is a good chance” Daniel Lincoln, who has not played since September, will kick in practice this week.

Cornerback Art Evans, who is indefinitely suspended for a violation of team rules, is “still working on clearing up his stuff,” Dooley said.

“We anticipate him clearing up his stuff but I don’t know how long it’s going to take,” Dooley said.

Day of rest: UT’s players received an unexpected Monday off from Dooley, who said the team’s stretch of six games in six weeks requires an extra day away from the field from time to time.

UT didn’t practice on two consecutive Mondays in October heading into its mid-season bye.

“It kind of fits with what we did earlier,” Dooley said.

Who’s telling the truth?: Defensive tackle Malik Jackson was in the wrong place at the right time Saturday when he intercepted a Memphis pass and returned it 44 yards.

“I was supposed to rush over the center a little bit,” said Jackson, who instead dropped back into coverage to intercept the pass. “Misunderstanding between me and (defensive line coach Chuck Smith). I’ll fix it and hopefully get another one doing it the right way.”

That misunderstanding carried over into the Sunday film room, when Dooley said he praised defensive coordinator Justin Wilcox for the play call.

“They must have kept it a secret when we watched the film together,” Dooley said. “I said ‘This hold coverage really looks good.’ I’ll be getting with Wilcox after this one.”

Not buying it: Dooley knows Ole Miss backup quarterback Nathan Stanley fairly well, but he doesn’t expect to get to see him much Saturday.

Dooley, who tried to recruit Stanley to Louisiana Tech, said he doubts Ole Miss starter Jeremiah Masoli (concussion) will be held out of the game.

“I’d be shocked,” Dooley said. “They’ll say ‘Is he playing?’ and it will be day to day, but he’s fine.”

Andrew Gribble covers Tennessee football and recruiting. He may be reached at 865-342-6327. Follow him at http://twitter.com/Andrew_Gribble and http://blogs.knoxnews.com/gribble/

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civilianvol_formerly_marinevol writes:

Fill the Vandy stadium with orange. Plenty of good seats available.

https://oss.ticketmaster.com/html/pac...

volstokke writes:

in response to naffy:

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Naffy you need to get a life. All the time you are on here acting like a complete idiot. It is so clear that you know nothing about football. The only thing you know is poping off @ the mouth. You do not understand traditions or what football really is. Get a life.

USNVOL writes:

in response to naffy:

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Hey naffy duck why don't you go take a flying ....!
Go away little person.......Troll.

tennezz writes:

in response to volstokke:

Naffy you need to get a life. All the time you are on here acting like a complete idiot. It is so clear that you know nothing about football. The only thing you know is poping off @ the mouth. You do not understand traditions or what football really is. Get a life.

If old Naffy`s mouth ever gets stopped up he will blow out the seat of his pants!

psychovol2 writes:

When this line matures and gels and it's going to be great. Think what Bray, Poole and the receiving corp can do with a mature O-line. They might even keep the D off the field long enough for Wilcox to field a team.

CoverOrange writes:

in response to naffy:

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Herrera let more through to Clausen's blindside which is how Casey got hurt that one year.

VolsDoc81TX writes:

naffy, missed you at the game Saturday...was gonna buy you a beer. Sorry.

Really, really enjoyed getting to go to a Vols game. Want to thank my hometown for providing such a fun opponent for Tennessee to play.

orangecountyvols writes:

Daffy duck,

When are you going to grow up? Do that, no matter how long it takes, then come back and show some smarts if possible.

We do have our share of trolls here unfortunately, but this kid is the way she is knowing it's her only way of getting some attention.

Can you imagine what sort of life these trolls have away from their mom's keyboards? Pretty sorry IMO.

huntined#565710 writes:

I think we have more out hurt this year then we did last year and we were WALKING WOUNDED all year..

Hounddog writes:

What exactly is a naffy? Let's have a contest and come up with a grand prize for the winner. My guess it will be The Witdh Doctor. I need time to think about it

So Vol fans and friends here we go: WHAT IS A naffy?

Hounddog

TommyJack writes:

in response to Hounddog:

What exactly is a naffy? Let's have a contest and come up with a grand prize for the winner. My guess it will be The Witdh Doctor. I need time to think about it

So Vol fans and friends here we go: WHAT IS A naffy?

Hounddog

The name Naffy sort of evolved from his first screen-name, Nafslov. (that was several handles ago)

coach799 writes:

A naffy is the string on a tampon in Portugese.

GO VOLS!!

rootin4volz writes:

"Naffy" is synonymous with "dingleberry" isn't it?

BigOrangeinCharge writes:

in response to psychovol2:

When this line matures and gels and it's going to be great. Think what Bray, Poole and the receiving corp can do with a mature O-line. They might even keep the D off the field long enough for Wilcox to field a team.

I hope so, but honestly I don't see it. We're really young out there, but of the guys we've got, the only ones who've shown me anything are James (who looks like he has NFL potential), Stone, and Fulton. We've got a bunch of other guys rotating in and getting experience, but I have my doubts they will finish their careers as starters once we get some more good recruits in. Still, having 3/5 of your OL set up for the next 3-4 years is not a bad thing.

gnm53108 writes:

in response to BigOrangeinCharge:

I hope so, but honestly I don't see it. We're really young out there, but of the guys we've got, the only ones who've shown me anything are James (who looks like he has NFL potential), Stone, and Fulton. We've got a bunch of other guys rotating in and getting experience, but I have my doubts they will finish their careers as starters once we get some more good recruits in. Still, having 3/5 of your OL set up for the next 3-4 years is not a bad thing.

We have some of the peices in place for a great ol,but you're right....We need another good haul in this years recruiting class.

nocleats writes:

in response to Volnupstate:

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The next time you will officially here Popes name will be the Ky game when he comes through the T as a Sr. My guess is he will have on his jersey and a pair of jeans. Toughness can not be taught, you either have it or you dont.

pdhuff#552644 writes:

And on we go to face the Rebel PC Black Bears.

Hope we have enuf bailing wire, starter fluid and duct tape to get this thing going vs the Black Bears.

Man you gotta love being PC.

gnm53108 writes:

in response to pdhuff#552644:

And on we go to face the Rebel PC Black Bears.

Hope we have enuf bailing wire, starter fluid and duct tape to get this thing going vs the Black Bears.

Man you gotta love being PC.

It's the world we live in pd...Funny how they are the "black" bears and thats pc.

TDTennesseeisfree writes:

Munoz was a wimp and quit on the team just like Pope is doing. Can't take the heat..

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to Hounddog:

What exactly is a naffy? Let's have a contest and come up with a grand prize for the winner. My guess it will be The Witdh Doctor. I need time to think about it

So Vol fans and friends here we go: WHAT IS A naffy?

Hounddog

Daffy duck's bitzh

volaholic45 writes:

Heard a countrified caller on one of the local sports radio shows (after the SC game) say, "Until and unless we can teach our quarterback to throw from a supine position . . ."

That and the equally ineffective DL is pretty much the story of this year. Combination of coaching/growing them up and getting some better ones is the only way back.

Tnstar writes:

I think we can beat Ole Miss but I am sure like Vandy and UK it is one of their biggest games of the year. Those that UT has historically beaten want to beat us while we are down. As always I encourage folks to go vote for Smokey for Mascot of the year. He is on a three game losing streak and is likely to miss the finals without a win this week. Vote for Smokey now at http://www.capitalonebowl.com/vote/main

Oenoboy writes:

in response to CantStandSaban:

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Easy there CSS, let a fan be a fan without becoming a target of your frustration. What kind of stats do you need to point out the well known fact that experience breeds better players? Also, there is no such thing as proof when speculating the future.

Go to http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-foot... and see for yourself there are more freshmen O-linemen on the roster than all other classes combined. This freshmen class getting an unprecedented amount of playing time at UT will lay a strong foundation for potential greatness in the future.

mtowntim writes:

in response to Hounddog:

What exactly is a naffy? Let's have a contest and come up with a grand prize for the winner. My guess it will be The Witdh Doctor. I need time to think about it

So Vol fans and friends here we go: WHAT IS A naffy?

Hounddog

It’s those sub-par specimens that usually get wiped off on the sheets.

Occasionally, some of the little buggers make it through.

Oenoboy writes:

Naffy - one who farts in the bathtub and turns around to bite the bubble.

asleep#212036 writes:

in response to steviejanowski:

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And therein lies the problem that got Majors and Fulmer replaced. How many years did UT fill up the draft day board with kids that appeared to be underachievers while wearing the orange and white? Far too many. Although both men were capable head coaches they let politics, friendships, and ego get in the way of firing marginal assistant coaches, the guys that actually mold promising high school kids into SEC studs. When their players left UT, they were still 60% potential and 40% performance, thus the draft day success in spite of mediocre performance in college. Kiffin was doing better, Dooley we don't yet know. But this we do know: recruiting isn't nearly as important as what you do with those hotshots once you get them on campus. So far, Dooley's assistants seem to be bringing them along but only time will tell. Go Vols!!!

asleep#212036 writes:

in response to volaholic45:

Heard a countrified caller on one of the local sports radio shows (after the SC game) say, "Until and unless we can teach our quarterback to throw from a supine position . . ."

That and the equally ineffective DL is pretty much the story of this year. Combination of coaching/growing them up and getting some better ones is the only way back.

Agree completely. We have huge experience issues on the O-line and talent issues on the D-line. Bad news in the SEC. Until those things are fixed we can never be competitive with any team in our conference or against the top teams from other conferences. It is what it is. Go Vols!!!

jcherrie#219531 (Inactive) writes:

in response to USNVOL:

Hey naffy duck why don't you go take a flying ....!
Go away little person.......Troll.

Hey USNVOL, please don't insult to Daffy Duck!

CoverOrange writes:

in response to steviejanowski:

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I know. Herrera admitted that he hated Fulmer by the time he left Tennessee for some unexplained transgressions. Watching back then I believe his disdain showed on the field many times. That all went away when he got to the Vikings and his talent has since shown through.

illinoisvolfan writes:

in response to VolsDoc81TX:

naffy, missed you at the game Saturday...was gonna buy you a beer. Sorry.

Really, really enjoyed getting to go to a Vols game. Want to thank my hometown for providing such a fun opponent for Tennessee to play.

VolsDoc, you should be fortunate that Naffy didn't show. That would have been a waste of a perfectly good beer and with our economic situation, we simply cannot afford to be wasteful.

Mule_Days_King writes:

Off topic but my Columbia Lions play host to Knox Catholic on Friday night in the playoffs. How good is KC?

VolsDoc81TX writes:

in response to illinoisvolfan:

VolsDoc, you should be fortunate that Naffy didn't show. That would have been a waste of a perfectly good beer and with our economic situation, we simply cannot afford to be wasteful.

illinoisvolfan,

In reality, I wanted to get naffy a beer so that I could take a picture of him...would help with the definition. A picture > 1,000 words, etc.

naffy may actually be a Vol that has lived in Memphis for too long and developed the Memphis half-arse or not at all approach to things (for example the lack of tiger high fans at a home game). I think that naffy may be salvaged...I know, I am an unreal optimist...but that is the definition of a true fan.

Now compared to shen24, vandygrad, etc. they are trolls with no future nor have I any reason to rehab them...wasted protoplasm!

Go Vols! Help naffy become a good Vol fan, nothing is impossible for the Volunteers!

orangeman1 writes:

in response to asleep#212036:

And therein lies the problem that got Majors and Fulmer replaced. How many years did UT fill up the draft day board with kids that appeared to be underachievers while wearing the orange and white? Far too many. Although both men were capable head coaches they let politics, friendships, and ego get in the way of firing marginal assistant coaches, the guys that actually mold promising high school kids into SEC studs. When their players left UT, they were still 60% potential and 40% performance, thus the draft day success in spite of mediocre performance in college. Kiffin was doing better, Dooley we don't yet know. But this we do know: recruiting isn't nearly as important as what you do with those hotshots once you get them on campus. So far, Dooley's assistants seem to be bringing them along but only time will tell. Go Vols!!!

Please get over your hatred of Fulmer. He is not the coach, hasnt been for 2 years. Anyone that honestly believes what you wrote wasnt paying attention during Fulmer's career. UT had many many players that performed good in college and went on to the NFL. And you are wrong about recruiting not being nearly as important as developing players. A players has to have the skills in order to be developed. They also have to have the desire to learn and many other traits that recruting services dont put a rating on. I'm sure given a choice any coach would take highly skilled players to coach up over less skilled players to coach up. UT didnt win as many games as they did under Fulmer without them being coached up and developed so try slinging that bull somewhere else. Or you could give me about 10 specifice examples of players that underachieved while wearing orange but filled up the draft day boards. Surely you can come up with 10 examples since there were "far too many" as you put it that underachieved.

mytrifecta writes:

What happend to Candy Pope? Is his Chi still not centered?

asleep#212036 writes:

in response to orangeman1:

Please get over your hatred of Fulmer. He is not the coach, hasnt been for 2 years. Anyone that honestly believes what you wrote wasnt paying attention during Fulmer's career. UT had many many players that performed good in college and went on to the NFL. And you are wrong about recruiting not being nearly as important as developing players. A players has to have the skills in order to be developed. They also have to have the desire to learn and many other traits that recruting services dont put a rating on. I'm sure given a choice any coach would take highly skilled players to coach up over less skilled players to coach up. UT didnt win as many games as they did under Fulmer without them being coached up and developed so try slinging that bull somewhere else. Or you could give me about 10 specifice examples of players that underachieved while wearing orange but filled up the draft day boards. Surely you can come up with 10 examples since there were "far too many" as you put it that underachieved.

I don't hate Fulmer at all. I think he was a wonderful face for UT and personally credit him with bringing our program to national prominence. I also said he was a "capable" head coach and I meant it. Where you got that I was bashing Fulmer, I don't know. And for the record, not only was I paying attention, I was at most of the games during Fulmer's career, home and away. My point was that many of our teams under both Fulmer and Majors performed at a level worse than their recruitment expectations and draft day signings would have predicted. And if you had really read my post you would have surmised that my point wasn't about Phil's abilities in his HC duties - it was about his reluctance to fire assistants who weren't getting it done. In other words, he's too good a guy. Further, a 5-star HS athlete won't be worth all five of those stars without good college coaching and a 3-star or less (think Clay Matthews, walk-on at USC to the Packers) can really make a difference with the right coaches. Would I rather have 5-stars? Of course but those stars represent potential only and you need coaches to make that happen. Question: how many Fulmer assistants are successful HC's right now? How many were ever even offered decent jobs? You won't have to think long about that one, it's a real short list. Slinging bull? Hardly. I'm as big a UT fan as there is. If in your mind I overstated the problem, so be it. I don't have the time or desire to pull specific examples but nobody but you has disagreed with me yet. My intended point was that we have plenty of potential on this team and only the right coaches will be able to get them to their peak performance. I don't think either Fulmer's or Major's assistants could have gotten it done. I think Kiffin's could have and the jury is still out on Dooley. That's it. If that offends you, sorry - I try never to upset a fellow Vols maniac. Go Vols!!!

orangeman1 writes:

in response to TennVolAlum:

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Foster? Is he still #2 back in UT history-hardly underachieved.
Manning? Seriously underachiever at UT-lol
Mayo,Lewis, Witten, Haynsworth. Meachem. Your serious about them underachieving at UT? I'm pretty sure you listed some All /American/SEC players and these guys were great for UT. Maybe I dont know what you guys mean by underachieved. If you mean underachieved as a team then maybe I can agree with that some years, but the other poster was making it out like they werent great college players and went on to have great NFL careers which isnt true. All they players you listed were great players for UT.

orangeman1 writes:

in response to asleep#212036:

I don't hate Fulmer at all. I think he was a wonderful face for UT and personally credit him with bringing our program to national prominence. I also said he was a "capable" head coach and I meant it. Where you got that I was bashing Fulmer, I don't know. And for the record, not only was I paying attention, I was at most of the games during Fulmer's career, home and away. My point was that many of our teams under both Fulmer and Majors performed at a level worse than their recruitment expectations and draft day signings would have predicted. And if you had really read my post you would have surmised that my point wasn't about Phil's abilities in his HC duties - it was about his reluctance to fire assistants who weren't getting it done. In other words, he's too good a guy. Further, a 5-star HS athlete won't be worth all five of those stars without good college coaching and a 3-star or less (think Clay Matthews, walk-on at USC to the Packers) can really make a difference with the right coaches. Would I rather have 5-stars? Of course but those stars represent potential only and you need coaches to make that happen. Question: how many Fulmer assistants are successful HC's right now? How many were ever even offered decent jobs? You won't have to think long about that one, it's a real short list. Slinging bull? Hardly. I'm as big a UT fan as there is. If in your mind I overstated the problem, so be it. I don't have the time or desire to pull specific examples but nobody but you has disagreed with me yet. My intended point was that we have plenty of potential on this team and only the right coaches will be able to get them to their peak performance. I don't think either Fulmer's or Major's assistants could have gotten it done. I think Kiffin's could have and the jury is still out on Dooley. That's it. If that offends you, sorry - I try never to upset a fellow Vols maniac. Go Vols!!!

Like I said in my other response, I just get tired of people criticizing Fulmer. I've heard comments that he couldnt develop talent before. I reference the # of players he sent to the NFL. Then theres the comment from you that even though he sent players to the NFL they werent developed by Fulmer, That they werent that great while wearing Orange, but once in the NFL they were great. I dont agree. Maybe what you meant was that the teams underachieved, but thats not what you said at first. You were talking about individual players and I dont think there are many at all that didnt have a great career at UT and went on to have a great NFL career in spite of not being develped by Fulmer. Thats the way what you said came across, and I would like to know some examples of the "many" players thats happended too because I think you are trying to take away credit from Fulmer when it isnt deserved.

orangeman1 writes:

in response to TennVolAlum:

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Like I said, I agree there were teams that underachieved, but the original post was about individuals. I understand why you feel that way about Peyton chokin, but you've got to understand that just because he didnt win a National championship for UT doesnt mean he wasnt great at UT and underachieved individually. Only one team wins a NT every year and it was a long time before 98 that UT won another one. There are many great players on underachieving teams at UT and other schools all aroung the country. Also , Florida was the only school that had UT's # during those years and they were one of the best in the country too so its not like just because Peyton couldnt beat Florida or win a NT during the Nebraska/Florida glory days means he was an underachiever to me.

orangeman1 writes:

in response to TennVolAlum:

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Agree. Cutcliff was a great Co. , but Fulmer did have success without him. 2001 is the prime example. UT had the best record in the SEC that year and just because they didnt win the SEC title game doesnt lessen that achievment. Without Cut for 8 years, Fulmer still got UT ranked top 25 five of them and top 10 twice so he did enjoy success, but not to the level he had when Cutcliff was there. The SEC also stronger since Cut left. Check the records of LSU,Auburn,and Georgia before 2000 and after. They greatly improved which made it harder for UT to compete after Cut too. I wish Fulmer wouldve stuck with a more conventional hire instead of Clawson though and he might still be coaching, but he didnt and he did take the blame by losing his job. I think one more year wouldve been fair after losing Cut again to the man that accomplished so much and was UT through and through, but whats done is done. I do like Dooley and hope he can meet fan expectations of winning the SEC on a regular basis, but it still gets to me when people start making negative comments about him that I dont think are warranted.

Vol86 writes:

in response to TennVolAlum:

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lets be real, not every great player wins the NC.
Only one nc crown given per year.

asleep#212036 writes:

in response to orangeman1:

Foster? Is he still #2 back in UT history-hardly underachieved.
Manning? Seriously underachiever at UT-lol
Mayo,Lewis, Witten, Haynsworth. Meachem. Your serious about them underachieving at UT? I'm pretty sure you listed some All /American/SEC players and these guys were great for UT. Maybe I dont know what you guys mean by underachieved. If you mean underachieved as a team then maybe I can agree with that some years, but the other poster was making it out like they werent great college players and went on to have great NFL careers which isnt true. All they players you listed were great players for UT.

I get what you're saying, I do. To wit: Foster is #2 on UT rushing list but seeing what he's doing in the NFL, why isn't he number one? Does that make sense? I simply believe that many of the players on that list were good college players and great pros. And surely some of those first and second round draft choices would have been All-Americans but very few were. Again, I am NOT saying they didn't have productive careers at UT. What I am saying is that for many of them, their draft status was high considering their college careers. That's my definition of "underachieved". Maybe I should have been clearer. And I still say if Fulmer had been willing to fire some of his marginal assistants, he might still be the HC and the disappointing years since 2006 might never have happened. But as long as we both love UT, we can respectfully disagree, right? Go Vols!!!

MemphoVol writes:

in response to TommyJack:

The name Naffy sort of evolved from his first screen-name, Nafslov. (that was several handles ago)

A naffy is an internet knat. Buzzes around without direction or purpose. Very annoying when it gets close to your ear. And as much as you try, you can't kill it.

MemphoVol writes:

in response to MemphoVol:

A naffy is an internet knat. Buzzes around without direction or purpose. Very annoying when it gets close to your ear. And as much as you try, you can't kill it.

Meant 'gnat', not 'knat'.

orangeman1 writes:

in response to asleep#212036:

I get what you're saying, I do. To wit: Foster is #2 on UT rushing list but seeing what he's doing in the NFL, why isn't he number one? Does that make sense? I simply believe that many of the players on that list were good college players and great pros. And surely some of those first and second round draft choices would have been All-Americans but very few were. Again, I am NOT saying they didn't have productive careers at UT. What I am saying is that for many of them, their draft status was high considering their college careers. That's my definition of "underachieved". Maybe I should have been clearer. And I still say if Fulmer had been willing to fire some of his marginal assistants, he might still be the HC and the disappointing years since 2006 might never have happened. But as long as we both love UT, we can respectfully disagree, right? Go Vols!!!

We sure can. You and VolAlum have both been respectful and thats refreshing on this message board. I see more where you are coming from now, and agree that there will always be some that underachieve due to the system they are in or coaches leaving, etc. There were alot more good asst coaches that Fulmer lost besides Cut. too. I just dont think that because a player isnt AA that means they underachieved necessarily. I would say the reason Foster was only #2 for UT is because of the bad offense in 08 that couldnt learn the new system and execute it. Also he dealt with injury some. I just dont think there were as many players to underachieve at UT considering their draft status or NFL career as you do. It just came across as you saying Fulmer wsant good at developing players, and I think he was. On the flip side think of all the All SEC players that UT had that didnt do squat in the pros or even get drafted. But as you say Go Vols. We are all in this together.

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