The 'Dooley 13' made football history, but is not one for the playbook

Tennesse linebacker Nick Reveiz reacts after the loss to LSU at Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge, La. on Saturday, Oct. 2, 2010. UT lost the game 16-14 after a defensive penalty in the final play of the game.

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Tennesse linebacker Nick Reveiz reacts after the loss to LSU at Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge, La. on Saturday, Oct. 2, 2010. UT lost the game 16-14 after a defensive penalty in the final play of the game.

Game Recap: UT vs. LSU

— Some reaction from elsewhere to the " Dooley 13" play that made for the craziest ending to a football game so far this season.

2theadvocate.com | Time Out for Oct. 3, 2010 ? Baton Rouge, LA: Golfers call an undeserved do-over a mulligan. Maybe from now on they?ll call it a Miles. Extreme Makeover, Tiger Stadium edition.

Out of Chaos, LSU Scores Dramatic 16-14 Victory Over Tennessee -- NCAAFB FanHouse: But never in the history of Tiger Stadium has chaos reigned more sublimely than it did Saturday afternoon in the final seconds (and beyond) of LSU's improbable and impossible 16-14 victory over Tennessee, which occurred after all time and sanity had expired.

Ron Higgins: Like clockwork, coaches fall apart in last seconds ? The Commercial Appeal: Two head coaches, trying to outsmart each other with last-second substitutions, produced one of the most amazing endings in the history of storied Tiger Stadium.

Vols still mourning tough loss at LSU | Chattanooga Times Free Press: UT's problem, though, is that it failed to put the proper number of players on the field for a crucial, late-game goalline series. The Vols had just 10 men on the field three times in the previous week?s double-overtime win over UAB, and two came near the end zone near the end of the game.

Rivals.com College Football - Monday with Mike: LSU's Lucky Les: One season after a colossal case of clock mismanagement led to a loss at Ole Miss, Miles and his offensive staff actually topped themselves at home against the Vols. But an egregious error by the Vols gave LSU new life, and the Tigers were able to make it pay off. CBS broadcaster Craig Bolerjack rightly termed it "a miracle."

LSU's Les Miles has 99 lives - College Football Nation Blog - ESPN: How else do you explain one of the wildest, most dysfunctional endings youll ever see in college football?

Finding new ways to lose on a crazy college football weekend - USATODAY.com: Sympathized LSU's Kelvin Sheppard, "The feeling they have right now, I never want to feel that."

The Famous 'Dooley 13' - Blogcritics Sports: Regardless of how many coaches are involved and which players are wondering where they're supposed to be, the buck will stop on Derek Dooley's desk. The first-year coach of Tennessee will bear the responsibility and will have to make some very positive headlines to erase the memory of last night in Baton Rouge, when 13 of his players were on the field during what was supposed to be the game's final snap, and after being penalized for it, LSU went on to win the game.

2theadvocate.com | Breaking down LSU’s wild finish vs. Vols: School officials said they don’t know any other time when the Tigers won a game on an un-timed down, which happened when Stevan Ridley crashed into the end zone on a 1-yard touchdown run to vault LSU past Tennessee.

Quick reaction to Tennessee's loss to LSU | Orange Clockwork, Kingsport Times News: But I'm not sure how you can have a soul if you don't feel for the Volunteers' players after the way that 16-14 loss to LSU ended.Just an absolutely gut-churning loss. Off the top of my head, I can't think of another game that saw such a stunning reversal.

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TLepage writes:

If this had been a fulmer team, most of you would be flipping out.... But since it is a dooley team, it is the ref's fault... I've never seen a guy do so little and be so unimpressive, but still be anointed great....

YakVomit writes:

If Fulmer was the coach, we wouldn't have been in the game where the last play mattered

skm writes:

in response to TLepage:

If this had been a fulmer team, most of you would be flipping out.... But since it is a dooley team, it is the ref's fault... I've never seen a guy do so little and be so unimpressive, but still be anointed great....

what are you talking about? post fail.

TommyJack writes:

in response to TLepage:

If this had been a fulmer team, most of you would be flipping out.... But since it is a dooley team, it is the ref's fault... I've never seen a guy do so little and be so unimpressive, but still be anointed great....

Who's anNointed whom? Weak sauce, T.

WhitePineVol77 writes:

we'll whoop the dawgs and then go on to secure a bowl bid. Take it to the bank. Go VOLS and thank you for a great game this past weekend. Sorry the way it turned out, but you can work magic with these young men.

TLepage writes:

in response to NachoDaddy_76:

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how do you not see or understand that BAD coaching lost the game? a couple things... First, we should have called a run play on third and 10 in the third quarter with the ball on LSU's 20 yard... It is obvious to anyone that has seen the vols play this year that a third and long is a very low percentage play for us... Instead, we call a pass and take a sack and force our true freshman kicker to kick a 46 field goal into the wind.... The probability of simms getting sacked on a third and long is a lot higher then the probability of us converting it.... Also, the clock management and play calling on our final drive on offense was awful.... Pass on 2nd and 2 with less then 3 mins left on the opponents 30 yard line was awful... also, we failed to run down the clock before snapping the ball the entire drive.... then on 4th and 14 we drop back into a soft zone instead of trying to finish them off... and finally, 13 men on the field (incorrect # of players on the field for the 5th time in 2 games).... i really don't understand how many of you have over looked the bad coaching at the end of this game... It is almost like this coaching staff has no idea what to do in the last 5 mins of the fourth quarter in a close game.... If a fulmer team had made all of those mistakes, most of you would be flipping out... But with Dooley, you won't even admit the obvious and will say stuff like "this team played really hard and left it all on the field"...... Also, just because i actually realized that our coaching staff failed our players and fans at the end of this game does not mean i'm a troll or nor a "real fan"... I love the vols and will cheer for them every week.... But i am very concerned about how our coaches handled the end of the LSU game... They were way out of their league...

TommyJack writes:

in response to TLepage:

how do you not see or understand that BAD coaching lost the game? a couple things... First, we should have called a run play on third and 10 in the third quarter with the ball on LSU's 20 yard... It is obvious to anyone that has seen the vols play this year that a third and long is a very low percentage play for us... Instead, we call a pass and take a sack and force our true freshman kicker to kick a 46 field goal into the wind.... The probability of simms getting sacked on a third and long is a lot higher then the probability of us converting it.... Also, the clock management and play calling on our final drive on offense was awful.... Pass on 2nd and 2 with less then 3 mins left on the opponents 30 yard line was awful... also, we failed to run down the clock before snapping the ball the entire drive.... then on 4th and 14 we drop back into a soft zone instead of trying to finish them off... and finally, 13 men on the field (incorrect # of players on the field for the 5th time in 2 games).... i really don't understand how many of you have over looked the bad coaching at the end of this game... It is almost like this coaching staff has no idea what to do in the last 5 mins of the fourth quarter in a close game.... If a fulmer team had made all of those mistakes, most of you would be flipping out... But with Dooley, you won't even admit the obvious and will say stuff like "this team played really hard and left it all on the field"...... Also, just because i actually realized that our coaching staff failed our players and fans at the end of this game does not mean i'm a troll or nor a "real fan"... I love the vols and will cheer for them every week.... But i am very concerned about how our coaches handled the end of the LSU game... They were way out of their league...

Coaching mistakes made, true. But you're looking at it thru a pair of Fulmerite lenses. The Big Fritter is gone. Most are glad.

mnvol writes:

in response to TLepage:

If this had been a fulmer team, most of you would be flipping out.... But since it is a dooley team, it is the ref's fault... I've never seen a guy do so little and be so unimpressive, but still be anointed great....

TL, In my opinion, your first statement is correct, your second statement is semi-correct, but your last statement show you really haven't been paying attention.

Dooley doesn't have a whole lot to work with, but in my opinion, the team is showing improvement each week. This year is going to continue to be painful, but if the fans will be patient we're going to be pretty awesome two or three years down the road.

Having said that, there have been way too many cases the last couple games of having too few or too many players on the field. Somebody on the sideline or up in the booth is not doing their job. I know the buck stops at Dooley, but he's got too many other things to worry about during the game than counting players. There are some assistant coaches and/or grad assistants that are dropping the ball.

HtownVol writes:

Like the last one says, I am not sure you can have a soul if you dont feel for the Vols players.

We lost fairly. But for better or worse every single fan of football had to talk about this game this weekend. I know that almost all of them feel bad for Vols players. Most football fans see the real Les Miles and most did not want LSU to have that prayer answered. Although LSU won, the whole country knows that our young Vols played their best, and deserved to win.

The biggest thing I am questioning is has any coach taken full and correct responsibility for allowing the 4 men on the field ( 2 off)?

I see the Vols playing every remaining game to never feel this again. And honestly every remaining game except (maybe) Bama, UT will have a very good chance of winning. The 2nd toughest team we play is USC, and it dont matter how good they think they are, UT can beat USC any day.

I really see no reason the Vols finish worse than 6-6, 7-5. And if that does happen this staff will have performed their job to the highest level.

GO VOLS

jobrando#216494 writes:

What was CDD comment about the 4 and 14 call on his TV show?

VolunteerLifer writes:

in response to TLepage:

If this had been a fulmer team, most of you would be flipping out.... But since it is a dooley team, it is the ref's fault... I've never seen a guy do so little and be so unimpressive, but still be anointed great....

If this had been a fulmer team, we would have turned the ball over numerous times, would have given up punt returns for td's would have been heavily penalized for lack of disciplined play, would have been down by 24 points in the third quarter, and would have laid down and quit in the fourth quarter.

Ironcity writes:

in response to TLepage:

If this had been a fulmer team, most of you would be flipping out.... But since it is a dooley team, it is the ref's fault... I've never seen a guy do so little and be so unimpressive, but still be anointed great....

I hate to say it but your right. I love to blame the refs as much as the next guy but this had nothing to do with the refs. I am also a little surprised at how little criticism Dooley has taken here. Some have ripped his assistants but they still want to give him the free pass. Dooley was handed a tough situation but he knew what he was getting into when he got here. I think he seems a little overwhelmed at times and that has got to change. The jury is out on Dooley and he needs to have better days then Saturday for him to convince me that he is the man to bring us back. As for the players thats as tough as it gets. I would have like to have seen Reveiz make a play on the runner he was right there but I think it would be tough to make a play after you already celebrated the victory.

hotdogvol writes:

It is pointless to be so critical of the new coaching staff. You either want them to succeed or fail. Sure I am disappointed to see the Vols lose, but we have to put this behind us and appreciate all the hard work the players and coaches are putting in for game preparation. Always a Vol, always a fan, win or lose. Either get on or get out.

TLepage writes:

in response to NachoDaddy_76:

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you are incorrect on both... also, you failed to address my comments and named called instead.... Did you watch the last 5 mins of the game?

Timed_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to TLepage:

If this had been a fulmer team, most of you would be flipping out.... But since it is a dooley team, it is the ref's fault... I've never seen a guy do so little and be so unimpressive, but still be anointed great....

Deal in facts.
=no one is blaming the refs, at least no one with credibility
=no one is anointing Dooley 'great. His butt has been well-roasted for all the calls you later point out.

You want to bring Phil up?? I really liked Phil, till he got fat, stupid, and lazy:
-let the recruiting services do his recruiting, brought in a bunch of thugs and non-achievers
-played 'not-to-lose' rather than to win; single reference: at Bama with Erik Ainge.
-awful hiring decisions: Randy Sanders (no discipline), Clawson (wrong personnel in place)
-weak disciplinarian (penalties, off-the-field issues) only solved by Cutcliffe.

Why do you insist on dragging Fulmer through the frigging mud?? The man got complacent; the fans warned him. You know the fans, right?? the people who ULTIMATELY pay his salary??

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to TLepage:

If this had been a fulmer team, most of you would be flipping out.... But since it is a dooley team, it is the ref's fault... I've never seen a guy do so little and be so unimpressive, but still be anointed great....

Maybe your a new fan but Dooley inherited a team that had mass defections from Fulmer and Kiffin leaving. He has had very little to work with. He has been given a golden opportunity for an unknown coach and is right with my expectations. These are young coaches and youth will prevail. Mistakes have been corrected week after week. I feel we will see that in the Georgia game. Matt Simm's has grown beyond what I expected. He an some other receivers got to work out the chemistry. That pass to Hunter is what needs to start happening.

SavTnVol writes:

Good grief folks, get over it and lets move on...UT got beat, end of point. Stop trying to lay blame and lets move on. Tennessee has got a great guy for HC so lets see what he can do after recruiting and coaching.If he makes it, then so many will eat crow, if he doesn't, then so many will eat crow too...lets get the players first and then go from there. i don't know what the problem is with the defense. maybe coaching and players combined. Doesn't seem that Wilcox is much different than Chief on 3rd or 4th and long, but it also doesn't seem that the DB's can cover either. Maybe Teague needs to return to offense. I saw in this game and in the UAB game that they were getting beat on pass routes all day. Thank goodness Lsu nor UAB had a very good passing QB!..Anyway, lets get behind this team and be real FANS..Not fair weather fans..If for nothing else, keep positive for players like Nick, Tauren, and Michael and the other ones that have given their all for Tennessee...

TommyJack writes:

in response to NachoDaddy_76:

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He has a job. KNS.

orangecountyvols writes:

TLepage,

When will you and NOT-A-Vol, hamiltonguy ever get it through your heads that Fulmer is gone?????

You keep living in the past and bringing it up daily.
It's fairly simple. He is not here. I liked Fulmer when he and staff were coaching and recruiting to their potential. But that was in the past.

A lot of fans cannot see the present situation for what it is. Many just plain don't like someone. Once Dooley was hired, immediately the Fulmer clan
went off the deep end. They immediately blamed Derek for the lack of talent and depth we now have. That's pretty amateur thinking.

During the game, mistakes are going to be made, even for the coaches and officials. But, that's part of the game unfortunately. It's so easy to hindsight from the living room, especially for so many who never blocked or tackled anyone in their entire life.

Finally, there are those sporting user names with Vols in them who are as far from being Tennessee fans as they come. Many are bandwagon residents who will turn their affections toward who is ranked at the time.

The rest of the Vol fans who stick with them don't like losing anymore than anyone else. Still, they see what we have to work with at present and know it will get better. To complain about the 3 losses to top 10 teams loaded with talent knowing how we have done so with what we have...........that's pretty amateur as I said.

randyinga writes:

New to this board and I am a Florida Gator fan. What prompted me to log in is the negative comments about your new coach and the circumstances on the last play of the game against LSU. While Dooley is the head coach you guys have got to give this man a break, it's his first years SEC football, a new staff, all new players to him and some of you want to trounce him already? You have been hanging in games lately which shows improvement overall. You can't expect the man to win every game his first year. Want an example of exasperation? Try understanding why Florida's offensive coordinator is trying to run a spread style system with a pro style quarterback. That will get your panties in a wad! Give your coach some time to right a ship your athletic director almost sunk and if you want to question anything question why is he still employed at the University of Tennessee. GO SEC (Except Ga Bulldogs)

SpiralBound writes:

in response to VandyGrad:

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Funny you should mention kiffen's record. Not funny how the comparison truly is. See, Kiffin left here with what record? Wait, what was Pete Caroll's record last year? What was Jim Mora's record last year?

The answer to each of those questions is - NOBODY CARES!

See, VandyBad, that was last year, a year before Kiffin left us short on players, short on wins, and short on hope. Don't act like Kiffin has been winning with a team he assembled. Just like Dooley isn't losing with kids he chose.

Oh yeah, one more thing, you're an idiot.

thevoice writes:

in response to TLepage:

If this had been a fulmer team, most of you would be flipping out.... But since it is a dooley team, it is the ref's fault... I've never seen a guy do so little and be so unimpressive, but still be anointed great....

Guess I'll be the first to admit that I'm all Vol, but have been disappointed with our coaching the last few games. The play calling has been a little suspect and game management has been lacking. I remember when Hammy hired Dooley he mentioned how Dooley stresses organization. I'm ready to see that spill over into Saturdays. This game was not the refs fault. Our coaching staff has been coaching for years now. I would have anticipated that there wouldn't be as much on-the-job training with our coaches as there is with the players. But it seems like that is indeed the case. I do, however, believe these coaches are getting as much as possible from these young players. And for that, things look encouraging.

Neyland writes:

Yesterday I made a comment on another article blaming the refs. After getting a chance to review and listen to the "so called experts" I see that I was wrong. The blame goes strictly on the Head Coach. First of all the only person who should have control of substitutions is the coodinator, not the line coach and linebacker coach and the secondary coach all at once. There are too many hands in the pot. Coach Dooley needs to get this fixed. Coach Wilcox needs to figure how to dial up some blitzs and get pressure on the qb. This 3rd and wilcox wont cut it. Georgia is down and we need to take advantage and get our first conference win on saturday. The coaching staff needs to get their heads out of their butts and lets get some wins. GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!

TLepage writes:

in response to NachoDaddy_76:

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Actually, I went To Washington and Lee University... I'm not sure why where I went to school has anything to do with what we are arguing about... Please let me know when you would like to have an adult conversation about the LSU game.... I have stated my opinions and you have carried on like a child...

Vol86 writes:

IMO the game was stolen from us. LSU remains with out a lose.
1). only one penalty for whole game and 3 on last drive?
2). Check illegal sub rules.
3). Lsu player throws helmet while ball still roling on ground.
4) screw everyone.

leprechaun writes:

We are in huge trouble in Vol Nation.

I never thought that there would be another coach in college football that could "outgoof" Les Miles, but Derek Dooley has managed to do this.

Two weeks ago, we got away with having 10 men on the field, then this past Saturday we got caught with 13. Both of these instances highlight the ineptness of game-management on Dooley's part.

Then to top it off, after Dooley gives the team character lectures after the Oregon drubbing, he goes ahead and throws his headset equipment like a 2-year old after the LSU loss, I realize that our coach has no clue in what he is doing.

THANK YOU, Mike Hamilton, for totally destroying the Tennessee football program!!!!

Timed_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to VolnotHAMILTONfan:

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Why did Phil get fired?

Timed_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to Dead_Head_Vol:

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Who the hell are you to tell people they are 'fools' and to move on???

Let people enjoy their banter and their Monday QB and coaching. How is that skin off your back??

Don't like it, don't read it. Simple.

Gyno_American writes:

The Vols are improving. They aren't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but they are getting there. We should be proud of the way they played. I know the clock management is an issue with some, but I'll counter that clock games don't always work in your favor. Ask ol Phil about 60 second LSU drives. Speaking of the Great Pumpkin, why so much chatter about him STILL? He's LONG gone people. He's not coming back. Change is GOOD.

TLepage writes:

in response to Gyno_American:

The Vols are improving. They aren't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but they are getting there. We should be proud of the way they played. I know the clock management is an issue with some, but I'll counter that clock games don't always work in your favor. Ask ol Phil about 60 second LSU drives. Speaking of the Great Pumpkin, why so much chatter about him STILL? He's LONG gone people. He's not coming back. Change is GOOD.

too bad the coaching staff isn't improving.... maybe they will figure out how to get the correct number of players on the field this week against georgia....

bfowler1161#262198 writes:

in response to TLepage:

If this had been a fulmer team, most of you would be flipping out.... But since it is a dooley team, it is the ref's fault... I've never seen a guy do so little and be so unimpressive, but still be anointed great....

You are referring to yourself?

OldNumber7 writes:

in response to leprechaun:

We are in huge trouble in Vol Nation.

I never thought that there would be another coach in college football that could "outgoof" Les Miles, but Derek Dooley has managed to do this.

Two weeks ago, we got away with having 10 men on the field, then this past Saturday we got caught with 13. Both of these instances highlight the ineptness of game-management on Dooley's part.

Then to top it off, after Dooley gives the team character lectures after the Oregon drubbing, he goes ahead and throws his headset equipment like a 2-year old after the LSU loss, I realize that our coach has no clue in what he is doing.

THANK YOU, Mike Hamilton, for totally destroying the Tennessee football program!!!!

Actually, we are not in huge trouble. We are exactly where everyone predicted we would be...except now Coach Dooley has one heck of sales pitch to Louisiana high school players to come to UT. Win or lose...we won Saturday.

I must admit, I have a character issue too. I threw my UT hat across the frichen room after that loss. Sorry, I'm giving Dooley a pass. I'm glad our coach has some darned emotion unlike the previous bunch of couch potatoes. clap clap clap.

In all your criticisms (which are accurate), did you bother to notice that this staff pulled off what wasn't supposed to happen? Special teams was insane. Defense adequate. We didn't turn the ball over....and with a bunch of freshmen....sorry, I'm over the "L".

Bellem13 writes:

Got to admit that the last two games ended in MUCH excitement!

MY UT VOLS - MY UNIVERSITY, LOVE'EM BOTH GBO.

It's GREAT to be a TN VOL

sampears writes:

in response to TLepage:

If this had been a fulmer team, most of you would be flipping out.... But since it is a dooley team, it is the ref's fault... I've never seen a guy do so little and be so unimpressive, but still be anointed great....

Thanks Vicky...

TLepage writes:

in response to steviejanowski:

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no one has wished for dooley or UT to fail.... people are just angry with all of the coaching mistakes.... When did being content with bad coaching become criteria for being a Tennessee fan???? sad....

Vol86 writes:

I am starting to get pissed. Three people have already saiid to me today that our coaches staff is not good. wtf game did they watch. If your not on board with the program than just go.....

tnbigg writes:

My, my my. Such a cerebral lack brilliance. Guess what...for the dazed and confused among us who blame the coaching...I am just wondering. Who do you give the credit to for being in position to beat the # 10 team in the country at final tick of the game clock? Also, the scene was just a wee bit confusing out there after an inspired and draining performance by the very team most of you claimed would be buried by LSU. Much ineptitude in your imagined cerebral truth. Posters posting taunting gibberish about a team that has more heart than any UT team in recent memory. UT coaches creating more out of less than any coach in recent memory. And a local "sports news reporter" (by title only - inept and inaccurate) proclaiming as recently as last week that this was "possibly the worst team in Tennessee football history". Up until the final ticks of the game clock how many penalty yards did we have? Did they have? Oh right...so few penalties in that type of a game is obviously not "coaching" right geniuses? Onward and upward Vols! The dawgs are waiting and so are we. Put this behind you and show dem dawgs what Tennessee football is all about! Keep building this young inexperienced team coaches! GO VOLS

AllforTenn writes:

in response to TLepage:

you are incorrect on both... also, you failed to address my comments and named called instead.... Did you watch the last 5 mins of the game?

You, a self anointed expert, should stop demonstrating your nescience. Apparently you think highly of your coaching skills. Duh! Not impressive.

guitarwoodrat writes:

in response to TLepage:

how do you not see or understand that BAD coaching lost the game? a couple things... First, we should have called a run play on third and 10 in the third quarter with the ball on LSU's 20 yard... It is obvious to anyone that has seen the vols play this year that a third and long is a very low percentage play for us... Instead, we call a pass and take a sack and force our true freshman kicker to kick a 46 field goal into the wind.... The probability of simms getting sacked on a third and long is a lot higher then the probability of us converting it.... Also, the clock management and play calling on our final drive on offense was awful.... Pass on 2nd and 2 with less then 3 mins left on the opponents 30 yard line was awful... also, we failed to run down the clock before snapping the ball the entire drive.... then on 4th and 14 we drop back into a soft zone instead of trying to finish them off... and finally, 13 men on the field (incorrect # of players on the field for the 5th time in 2 games).... i really don't understand how many of you have over looked the bad coaching at the end of this game... It is almost like this coaching staff has no idea what to do in the last 5 mins of the fourth quarter in a close game.... If a fulmer team had made all of those mistakes, most of you would be flipping out... But with Dooley, you won't even admit the obvious and will say stuff like "this team played really hard and left it all on the field"...... Also, just because i actually realized that our coaching staff failed our players and fans at the end of this game does not mean i'm a troll or nor a "real fan"... I love the vols and will cheer for them every week.... But i am very concerned about how our coaches handled the end of the LSU game... They were way out of their league...

You know so much and are so smart, why are you not coaching? 1st year coaching and a team that basically hasn't ever played football, what do you expect? Fulmer took over an experienced team, made some good calls and a winning team was the result.In 3 years Dooley will have a winning team if everybody will let him alone.

skyhawk836 writes:

in response to TLepage:

how do you not see or understand that BAD coaching lost the game? a couple things... First, we should have called a run play on third and 10 in the third quarter with the ball on LSU's 20 yard... It is obvious to anyone that has seen the vols play this year that a third and long is a very low percentage play for us... Instead, we call a pass and take a sack and force our true freshman kicker to kick a 46 field goal into the wind.... The probability of simms getting sacked on a third and long is a lot higher then the probability of us converting it.... Also, the clock management and play calling on our final drive on offense was awful.... Pass on 2nd and 2 with less then 3 mins left on the opponents 30 yard line was awful... also, we failed to run down the clock before snapping the ball the entire drive.... then on 4th and 14 we drop back into a soft zone instead of trying to finish them off... and finally, 13 men on the field (incorrect # of players on the field for the 5th time in 2 games).... i really don't understand how many of you have over looked the bad coaching at the end of this game... It is almost like this coaching staff has no idea what to do in the last 5 mins of the fourth quarter in a close game.... If a fulmer team had made all of those mistakes, most of you would be flipping out... But with Dooley, you won't even admit the obvious and will say stuff like "this team played really hard and left it all on the field"...... Also, just because i actually realized that our coaching staff failed our players and fans at the end of this game does not mean i'm a troll or nor a "real fan"... I love the vols and will cheer for them every week.... But i am very concerned about how our coaches handled the end of the LSU game... They were way out of their league...

This team is playing with a purpose and unbelievably hard. I was a supporter of Coach Fulmer's but that wasn't the case in his last days as head coach.

GeneralNeylandsReturn writes:

in response to YakVomit:

If Fulmer was the coach, we wouldn't have been in the game where the last play mattered

I seem to remember Fulmer taking his team in and winning in overtime just a few years ago...get a life

Chartervol writes:

in response to fasteddy41:

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Exactly. Had the officials managed things correctly, UT's defense would have had enough time to get organized and run two off. As it was, LSU was allowed to rush things up and we have what happened.

Dooley is saying the right things in public. He knows even if the SEC admits it was a screwup, the best he could get would be a formal apology. I'd bet the farm he's ripping the SEC a new one behind the scenes. This approach will reap more rewards long-term. Nothing to be gained by roasting the conference office in public. Remember last year?

skyhawk836 writes:

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Exactly. A case could be made that we were victims of LSU's total lack of organization.
We had to try to get nickel personnel back in when they ran their receivers back in.
It just happened.
No timeouts, no one can hear in that environment, etc. It was a tough spot.
Some folks just need someone to blame.

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I wouldn't disagree with you, but would add that the coaching staff needs to grow, just as the players themselves do. I think Dooley may eventually be a great coach, but for now, great coaches don't botch up player personnel like he has done in the last few games. If someone says it's the player's fault, then find me a coach who can make sure the players know what to do. Even so, I'm willing to give Dooley a break because of the personnel lack, new systems, depth issues, etc. I'm still happy, but Dooley needs to own up to his mistakes at the end of the game.

VOLliven2it writes:

Well, well, well; it is good to see passion among the Volfaithful even though some of it is over the edge. I wanted a win Sat. and it was tough seeing the "count" prove LSU getting another chance. It was a lapse in coaching at a chaotic time of the game which cost dearly. But I also saw this team reach to another level on the road even in defeat. The offense, minimal penalties, no turnovers. SPECIAL teams were special on Sat. I had not seen that in awhile. So the loss is beyond tough to grapple with. On the other hand, I have to commend a team which was not given more than a two touchdown chance of winning against a ranked(not top IMO)opponent and taking them to within a tackle outside the endzone of winning. I'm taking the half-full glass on this one. Our coaches will not let us down again this way but if they do, the true fanhood of Volnation will still support them unless we are perfect and could go do better.
I just hope the team will not see the garbage here and on other sites and be disparaged. I hope they go to Athens and show what they are made of. Living in N GA I need a win Sat. The Dogs will be ready, so GO BIG ORANGE! This one is behind us. Get ready to go on the road again and play big.

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Navalorange,

Thanks for a very insightful post. Don't argue with the W & L General. They know law but not football.
We'll play LSU, Bama, Florida, etc and the General can deal with VMI or UVA at Wise.

Based on the competition we've played, with who we have in uniform, I'd say the Vols are improving every week. Looking ahead, after a couple of years with the upgrade in recruiting, the trolls are going to struggle with things to whine about with the Vols.

crapshooter writes:

The players had nothing to do with this loss. The Coaches have to take the fall. They alwasy preach play for 60 minutes, well in this case the players did that but the coaches forgot.

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I remember the first few Johnny Majors years. They were pretty ugly, even through a teenager's eyes. The 0-6 beginning to the 1988 season was brutal. Fulmer's last four seasons (well, two of them anyway) were tough because of the high expectations that comes with being Tennessee.

I mention all that because the Vols have recovered from rough times before and they will again. And the true Vol fans will just laugh at all the Monday morning quarterbacks out there because we'll know who supported the team through everything and who didn't. GBO!!

Volnbeerfan writes:

Going into this game as a 14 point underdog, did anyone really expect the Vols to win? The fact is that they competed very well against another highly ranked team (LSU/Florida), and played a great half against most probably the PAC 10 champion and BCS challenger Oregon. The team has improved each week, The QB play has improved dramatically, the team has shown heart, grit, and the ability to deal with adversity. Yes, this was a heartbreaker, but let's build on the positive. The fans need to rally behind these boys and help take it down to Athens, where we will turn the page on Georgia with a hard fought victory! Maybe I'm too optimistic, but if the Vols learn anything this week it is that it's not over till it's over! "Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?" (Animal House) - NO! I see the VOLS at 7-5, possibly 8-4 going to a bowl game - who's with me? Go Vols!!

P.S. Fire Dean Wormer (Mike Hamilton), by the way is Pearl on double secret probation?

utvolnatl writes:

Did anyone mention that we dressed 66 players and 33 were freshman! C'mon guys, regardless of the outcome on Saturday, take some comfort in the fact that this team gets better every week.

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